ANC rejects DA violence claims

2012-08-06 10:33

Cape Town - The pinning of service delivery violence on the ANC and its youth league in the Western Cape is a publicity stunt, the party said on Monday.

"It is typical of the Democratic Alliance to shift the focus away from the real issues at the root of growing dissatisfaction with inferior service delivery in poor areas," said African National Congress Western Cape secretary Songezo Mjongile.

"The ANC condemns all violence and damage to public and private property, as it has done repeatedly. The ANC stands for democratic means to raise issues and protest concerns."

Service delivery protests

Mjongile said issues would be resolved only when the DA and Cape Town mayor Patricia de Lille met with residents.

Service delivery protests rocked the Cape Peninsula last week.

A bus was torched in Phillipi by protesting residents last Monday.

In the latest incident, a Golden Arrow bus was stoned in Khayelitsha on Friday.

The driver lost control of the bus during the attack, and it crashed through a road barrier and ploughed into shacks, killing the driver Sandile Hoko.

Five people, including a child, were injured.

Threats to make Western Cape 'ungovernable'

On Sunday, Western Cape Premier Helen Zille and De Lille said the attack followed threats by the ANCYL to make Cape Town "ungovernable" and to "bring Cape Town to its knees".

The ANCYL had threatened to prevent "any and all Golden Arrow buses and taxis from operating".

They said the ANCYL should be held accountable for this sequence of events.

A R50 000 reward was offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible.

Criminal charges of intimidation were laid against the ANCYL by the city and province on Wednesday.

"We await the outcome of the investigation of the criminal charges we have laid against the ANCYL and will closely monitor any other action that follows from this investigation," they said.

  • blignault.michaele - 2012-08-06 10:37

    This is typical of the ANCYL to stir. Take them down DA!!

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-06 10:39

      With the elections coming soon, they will try anything to stay in power. I am afraid that by 2014, their luck will be out! I just wish that the black majority's eyes will open up and vote for the DA in the next elections. The ANC is really only in it for themselves... They couldn't care less about the citizens.

      boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-06 10:51

      " The pinning of service delivery violence on the ANC and its youth league in the Western Cape is a publicity stunt, the party said on Monday. Really....Well the ANC & its supporters do have a well documented history of this type of behaviour. Like spoilt children when things are not going there way. Which....By the looks of things is almost every day !

      deabreu - 2012-08-06 10:52

      I don't understand why the ANC are defending their out of control ANCYL. I believe that the ANCYL had a direct part in the violence. Educated people are starting to see the ANC politicans for what they really are. The constitution may defend the rights of all. The ANC polcies may pretend to defend everyone and treat everyone as equals. It is only the uneducated and the racists that are blinded, which is a shame because the DA don't enrich themselves on lies, racism and deception.

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-08-06 11:14

      @Poloyatonki and @Peter, you also fall into the stupid area!!! Take a look at every other province in the country that is controlled by the ANC and you will note that conditions for everyone are far worse then the Cape. I am not saying that what has happened there is right but the DA has not tried to dodge the situation they are saying that the ANCYL and the ANC are making it harder for them to deal with the issue!! AS they have also made it impossible for people to enjoy the basic living neccessities in this country because they are corrupt and money hungry. THe ANC is a joke and all they are doing is raping South Africa of everything that they can!

      oom.koos.7 - 2012-08-06 11:20

      It is absolutely clear that the ANC has a devious plan to win the WCape. It cannot win it fair and square, but as we all know, It is a militant, revolutionary party, with roots and experience in underhanded dirty tricks and terrorist tactics. They probably are disrupting the peace and harmony of the WC, just to win. It's ridiculously stupid to put so many people’s lives on the line, just to win, but hey, that’s how they roll....!!

      Stormkaap - 2012-08-06 11:29

      Just a question Poly, will the ANC be assisting the family of the deceased, since it was their protest that led to his death

      farmfreund - 2012-08-06 11:36

      Typicle African , Who me no no never not me you are a racist to think that i will do somthing like this no no not me never i tell the truth, sorry sorry man never not me

      Tony - 2012-08-06 11:41

      @Poloyatonki, Paul the Alien might have been left out by NASA but evolution did leave you behind, thus the reason you still a donkie.

      Willie - 2012-08-06 11:46

      Nail them, why do they want to make WC ungovernable. The motherbody should come clear and explain to the whole country whether they agree with the ANCYL in WC.

      doug.evans.56863 - 2012-08-06 11:56

      @peter.ndamase - Have you been to Diepsloot lately ? Failure to deliver is not a single party problem in this country . ALL of our politicians are useless. A proactive business leader needs to take over in order to run the country like a functioning business and not a private piggy bank. Corruption , empty promises, weak leadership ... it all needs to be fixed. All politicians do is talk and look out for their own agenda's. One of my favorite quotes @ politicians in general "Your position exists to provide your people with freedom. Your people do not exist to provide you with power..."

      farmfreund - 2012-08-06 12:02

      self destuction program

      thandiwe.ngema.71 - 2012-08-06 13:41

      These ANC thugs are ridiculous.. Don't play with our tourism jewel or unemployment, tax revenues etc will be affected!

  • henri.lombard - 2012-08-06 10:38

    same old same old answer, no backbone and stand up for what your doing CancER

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-06 10:40

    So the ANCYL has now murderd a Golden Arrow bus driver & injuring 5 people, well done you bunch of thugs, we demand that the ANC takes responsibility for this as the ANCYL has threatened violence in writing, time to take responsibility for your ill disciplined youth that you have created.

  • sean.efstratiou - 2012-08-06 10:42

    "The ANC condemns all violence and damage to public and private property, as it has done repeatedly. The ANC stands for democratic means to raise issues and protest concerns." yet every time there is a protest rally you somehow destroy everything in your path, loot shops, throw rocks at cars ... Practice what your preached b!tches

      theo.joubert.37 - 2012-08-07 07:54

      They failed once again! They forgot to inform their supporters not to be violence when protesting.

  • bernpm - 2012-08-06 10:43

    The opposition fights the battle on the streets with destruction, the DA, as the ruling government in the Cape, fights the same battle in court by legal means. It could be more productive -and less costly- if both would meet in one room and discuss a joined way forward.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-08-06 10:50

      bernpm, in an ideal world of course you are correct, there is no honest negotiating with this thieving ANC non governing government.

      boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-06 10:54

      Remember...The ANC still sees itself as a " Liberation " movement and not as a normal government. Changing it's mindset & that of many of it's ill disciplined supporters is no easy task.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-08-06 11:19

      The ANC is only interested in one thing : To take over control of the WC so that their plunder can continue. Arrogance, Nepotism and Corrumption knows no reason. No compassion. No sacrifice. No ethics. It only knows greed.

  • tebo.go.5 - 2012-08-06 10:47

    This war between the ANC and DA is a big circus, cracks me up all the time

      gaby.hide.3 - 2012-08-06 11:48

      I don't believe murder is funny, never mind the five people in the shack that got flattened.

      CORNHOLIO - 2012-08-06 14:04

      guys dead so funny eh tebogo?

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-06 10:54

    Dont know how they can deny it when the ANCYL spokesperson clearly said on tv they would make the western cape ungovernable. This is just typical of the ANC and the ANCYL to try gain control. We dont want the ANC in the western cape. The DA is doing a awesome job and we are the only province that is running properly. Out of all the parties in South Africa the ANC is the only party wanting to keep SA divided. The ANC and all there alliances are the only ppl that keep bringing up apartheid. Get over it ANC, you may have brainwashed all your comrads but the rest of South Africa wants to move on and build a better SA. You the ANC will always live in the past and never move on. Even the rest of the world is getting sick and tired of hearing about the struggle. Get over it now and move on. To all the other small parties and the DA, its time you all gathered and formed one big party. Put all your differences aside and lets make a new party with a new name the represents SA and lets vote this corrupt ANC government out.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-08-06 11:31

      "The DA is doing a awesome job" clearly you have never been to townships around WC...

      gary.dalton.75286 - 2012-08-06 12:05

      @ Poloyatonki Lerao .....You don't even live in South Africa...go back to Nigeria or Zim...let the South Africans deal with their own issues....

      ange.kritzinger - 2012-08-06 12:41

      Poloy, I've been to townships in the Western Cape, Eastern Cape, Gauteng, North West, and to rural areas in Natal. Of all of these, the Western Cape townships are better off. There are unfortunately limits to what the DA can achieve if they are not the ruling party. I really want to see this country move forward - the ANC proved that they don't know how to do that. There are some brilliant people in the ANC, but what can they do against the majority who are not?

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-06 14:13

      @poloyatonki. Yes they are doing a awesome job. They have built far more RDP houses here than all 8 ANC run provinces put together. I'm guessing your just one of the lazy ones that just want, want, want and are to lazy to work for it. The reason why the townships look the way they are is because ppl are to lazy to clean up after themselves. When things are built for you with weeks it gets destroyed during a protest march. They take no pride with anything that is given to them. Its just a case of we got it given to us and there is no pride in looking after what you have.

  • Hermann - 2012-08-06 10:58

    The ANC's impossible dream "The ANC condemns all violence and damage to public and private property, as it has done repeatedly. The ANC stands for democratic means to raise issues and protest concerns." The DA made a great error, because unlike the ANC the DA did not blame apartheid but place the blame where it belongs.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-08-06 11:28

      Please guys dont wake Hermann up.

      gngaleka - 2012-08-06 12:05

      For the DA to blame apartheid they would be blaming themselves. Politicians are all the same hence you won' t hear the ANC blaming the last 20 years. Why would someone with a right mind think a DA politician is better than a ANC politician?

      peter.jeffrey.581 - 2012-08-06 13:19

      @gngaleka - "Politicians are all the same hence you won' t hear the ANC blaming the last 20 years" yea because they are too busy blaming the government pre 20 years ago, ANC only sees race and will only ever blame apartheid they will never admit to a wrong doing even after all the billions they've lost in tax and corruption

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-06 14:21

      @gngaleka! seriously you and poloyatonki are both idiots. The DA doesnt need to blame apartheid because that is all in the past and they are looking to a brighter future. The only reason why the ANC always blames apartheid is because its there only scape goat when they f@!k up. They can never admit its there fault for the education stuff up and other stuff ups they make. There easy way out is "Eish this is apartheids fault comrads." Waste billions on arms deal, "Eish apartheid"

      nicolaas.baker - 2012-08-07 00:48

      @Poliodonkey, please die a stupid death! You not even worthy of the name donkey! Shame on you for bringing such a disgrace on a sacred animal!

  • Barefoot - 2012-08-06 10:58

    K given they might have been incited to protest - but would the people been fooled if the actual services were there, provide for your residents and they won't protest plain and simple

      geraldsebanda - 2012-08-06 11:06

      Violent protest is a national pasttime, often the protesters dont even know why, only that there is promise of free booze

      mveleli.mbombo - 2012-08-06 13:12

      nobody can say that any better barefoot

      nicolaas.baker - 2012-08-07 00:51

      2Barefoot, provide your residents? These are all bussed in refugees from the non working ALL NATIONAL CORRUPT PARTY provinces. It is not just a matter of provide, are they prepared to pay for the service provided?

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-08-06 11:04

    I'm sorry, did they say the DA shifts the blame and focus on issues? Yeah, like they have done so with the textbook scandal, building of Zumaville, buying new planes etc... What a bunch of lame ass cowards.

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-08-06 11:10

    "It is typical of the Democratic Alliance to shift the focus away from the real issues at the root of growing dissatisfaction with inferior service delivery in poor areas," as said by Songezo Mjongile. It just really boggles my mind!!!! Are leaders in the ANC born stupid or do you become stupid when you take up ranks in the party???? The ANC are the kings of diverting attention from things, lets take the Spear for example, the only reason this ever got to where it did was so that the ANC could take the attention off how useless they are and try and rally the people behind them! This is just one of a 1000 kinds of diversion tactics the ANC has used over the past 20 years! The DA is not trying to hide the issue otherwise they would not mention the issue to the public and they would not admit to there being a problem like they have done so. When on earth will the rest of the country realise that the ANC is sadly now poisoned by money hungry stupid fool who probably aren't even qualified to take an order in a restaurant let alone run the country!!!!!!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-06 11:40

      Peterjeff, it is so typicla of the ANC and the ANCYL to destroy property of others when they haven't got a leg to stand on. Look why isn't your ANCYL out there, helping the aged, organizing after school activities for the children, cleaning up their neighborhoods?. Creating a liveable place for everyone?. No they don't lift a finger and just like the rest sit and bloody moan and wait for hand outs. Service delivery, to whom, those that aren't even prepared to remove their own rubbish?. Get a life.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-08-06 11:12

    So predictable! The WC rejects the ANC.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-08-06 11:12

    How do you deny something that was witnessed by thousands and broadcast on every news channel around the world? Just trying to figure that one out? ANC = African National Corruption

  • amatodzi - 2012-08-06 11:19

    The sooner our poor ppl realises that some in the ANC, particularly in de ANCYL r plyin with their mind to gain cheap popularity the better. . . . Am gettin sick of dis money driven nd power monger who continuosly act as if their r represnting the masses of our ppl, while in actual facts they r pursuing their personal agenda

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-06 11:42

      Thank you Amatodzi, I still believe that sooner or later the people will see these louts for what they are.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-08-06 11:48

      Exactly, race isn't the issue, the issue is certain people doing whatever they can to get as much money as they can.

  • zikhona3 - 2012-08-06 11:22

    Like any other service delivery in SA,the western cape is not immune. People must understand that poor people are the one protesting for service delivery not the rich (settlers). DA must deliver service not shifting the focus to the violence, it is the language understood by politician. African(refugees) keep on protesting till service delivered.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-06 11:46

      Zikhona, I have to laugh how you have put settlers in brackets. You know we have more black rich people here than whites?.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-08-06 11:52

      The Xhosa, Zulu and many other tribes are also settlers. Or do you not know history? Khoi-San are the only true inhabitants. SA was never yours to begin with.

      nicolaas.baker - 2012-08-07 00:55

      @DOMKHONA, and you will stay stupid, ignorant and hunger until you die!

      nicolaas.baker - 2012-08-07 00:56

      @DOMKHONA, and you will stay stupid, ignorant and hunger until you die!

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-06 11:23

    If they can't have their way, they opt for public violence. This is unacceptable in a democracy. So let the ANCYL hooligans prove their innocence in Court

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-06 11:47

      Themba, thank you.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-06 11:28

    The DA doesn't need cheap publicity stunts like the ANC and there Grabouw school protest. I hope they lock up these hoodlums who belong to the ANCYL and destroy property where ever they feel like it. Instead of calling the DA names the ANC shoud keep it's youth in check. Too much to ask from a lot of has beens.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-08-06 11:40

    Probably the work of 5th columnists again, or Apartheid activists, possibly even aliens or ancestors. ANC supporters - those dedicated upholders of free speech, like their masters - wouldn't disrupt meetings, or engage in violence. I call on the press to stop printing stories which put the ANC, their creche or the SACP in a bad light. It's just not cricket.

  • Erna - 2012-08-06 11:41

    We all know what the anc motto is - deny, deny, deny - then lie - if that does'nt work, blame someone else, i.e. apartheid, third force, the DA - take your pick.

  • david.reddy.18 - 2012-08-06 11:44

    To put things into perspective, watch this:

  • zikhona3 - 2012-08-06 11:57

    DA need to render service to the poor people of Cape town,if DA run Cape Town so good why poor majority protesting. This not about ANC or ANCY but about government who is run to protect the rich people's interests.

      devon.meredith.31 - 2012-08-06 12:14

      The poor majority aren't protesting. If the majority were protesting the city wouldn't function. Do you live in Cape Town? I moved from Cape Town to Joburg for work and from what I have seen of all the provinces run by the ANC it would only take a visit to Cape Town to cure a person from voting for the cANCer. To see the difference between a government that is working for the people and one that doesn't give a damn about them. Cape Town isn't perfect but atleast it is moving in the right direction. Everything up north just seems to be disintegrating.

      zikhona3 - 2012-08-06 12:51

      Denvon the protesting people are from Townships,did you live in township? No. I am refugee to the western cape I live in cape town township, will not deny ANC failed us in western cape and DA busy failing the masses of capetown townships.

      devon.meredith.31 - 2012-08-06 13:11

      No but I have spent enough time in the local township - Musipumalele and know enough friends who live in that township to have an idea of some of the struggles they face. Where are you from if you are a refugee? If you aren't a South African why Cape Town as apposed to another province? If Cape Town is terrible then why are people migrating there from all over South Africa? The townships continue to swell and conditions get worse as there is limited space yet people continue to come because the services that they do receive are better then those elsewhere. The local government can't make more space appear and they receive limited funds from national government.

      zikhona3 - 2012-08-06 18:42

      Devon spending time in location

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-08-06 12:05

    Amongst all the politics, I wonder if anyone realises, or better still, if anyone has explained to the 'poor', that every country in the world has poor, middle class and the stinking rich. Has anyone explained that no matter who is in power, we will still have poor, middle class and stinking rich. Most countries in the world did not suffer from Apartheid, and yet they have always had, and always will have, ....... yes that's right, poor, middle class and stinking rich. This is not a colonial / White / Apartheid / ANC / DA phenomenon. Live with it, it will always be there.

      abner.malema - 2012-08-06 12:27

      stinging rich should be white, poor should be blacks.

  • Brad - 2012-08-06 12:20

    When has ANY protest (which is generally done by the masses, who vote anc) been peacefull. EVERY protest ends with damage to property. People that live in poverty only know one way to get their message across and that is to destroy what little they have. If education is a problem, f%#k it... lets burn down the remaining schools. When trains are not on time, f#$k it.. burn the trains. UNEDUCATED,SELFISH and DESTRUCTIVE, recipe for desaster. much like the anc.

  • abner.malema - 2012-08-06 12:20

    Protest are all over the country, i thought Western Cape's well run province will not have protest. it shows what the DA is all about, preserve the urban area and neglect the townships where a lot people are blacks. I wonder what will happen if the whole SA is governed by DA

      Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-06 12:52

      much like the ANC preserving their own interest?

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-06 13:27

      Can you explain to me how when there is a fixed budget but an ever increasing population in the townships through births and migration how the WC is supposed to suddenly provide services for these extra people? Secondly I'm not sure why you think it is acceptable to turn up with no money or skills or a job and then expect everything to be paid for?

      nicolaas.baker - 2012-08-07 01:01

      @DOMAKNEE, We will rid the country of rubbish like you. Oxygen is too valuable to let a excuse of a human being like you breath it. Now go and play in your favorite place, the sewerage plant from where you crawl out!

  • abner.malema - 2012-08-06 12:25

    From the comments which appear daily it shows that if we want real economic freedom we must continue to vote for a party that has the majority of the country at heart. Not to preserve what happened during the past 300 yrs

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-06 13:30

      Economic freedom does not exist, we are all slaves to money and the economy in some form or other. The only freedom you should be asking for is freedom to participate in the economy, and the ONLY way to do that is with an education, not some lies that the fat cats at the top tell you.

      CORNHOLIO - 2012-08-06 14:16

      el torro do you realize you are wasting your time arguing with one of polys avatars?

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-08-06 16:04

      Thats right Abner vote DA!

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-06 12:49

    From the comments I am reading from the DA haters that all the provinces governed by the ANC are doing great, with no poor people living in shacks without basic services etc etc etc etc!!!! yeah right, I thought not!!!

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-06 12:51

    And by the way the DA is doing a great job in the Western Cape considering the hurdles they have to face !

      thando.ramncwana - 2012-08-06 14:48

      Western Cape did not inherit any homelands......

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-08-06 13:05

    It is quite strange that these protests became more frequent after it became apparent that the Western Cape was the best run province.

  • willem.dehaan.94 - 2012-08-06 16:18

    The policeman in the picture is not showing much interest in the complaint being lodged. The rubbing of the nose also indicates that it is problem he would like to see go away. Must be difficult for him, after all, if he does investigate the matter he might have to act against some people who have protection and next thing he knows he is without a job, A tough one for him.

  • - 2012-08-06 16:32

    Lol jah neh, people are battling it out on news 24, the truth is there r strikes everywher, not only in Cape town lyk sum of u seems to think that it is bcos it is run by DA, NO everywher , now get over it

  • indianajohn - 2012-08-06 16:49

    "It is typical of the Democratic Alliance to shift the focus away from the real issues at the root of growing dissatisfaction with inferior service delivery in poor areas," HAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA!!!!

  • BulletProof. - 2012-08-06 17:04

    The votes told already that the ANC doesn't have place in Cape Town.Period.

  • tankandamo - 2012-08-07 00:17

    The DA Can't manage one provine imagine what will happen if they win the elections.

  • gonani.sikelo - 2012-08-07 07:55

    They think Malema way is the right way. Idiots!

  • jeanot.beetge - 2012-08-07 08:24

    soooo... what people are saying if we feel that we do not have good distribution of services we must make it ungovernable?? if we all did that it would stop the whole country because i can assure you there are problems with service delivery all over this country. This is just an excuse for the youth league to slander the DA its pathetic!!!

  • mart.botha - 2012-08-07 11:49

    The protesters must be warned and cautioned today that should life or property be threatened by their proposed actions tomorrow, Wednesday, that the security forces, who will be armed with live rounds, have martial law type powers to use this against them.

  • JournoSergio - 2012-08-07 11:53

    Inciting violence across a province is tantamount to encouraging a state of warfare which in effect would "bring Cape Town to it's knees". Exactly how does the ANC deny their involvement when their influence on the ANCYL is clear as day? Of all the wrongs that occur, the worst is the lack of accountability. Where is the justice?

  • RudeBong - 2012-08-09 14:33

    " @ thando.ramncwana:Western Cape did not inherit any homelands...... " Yes agreed, but that is not the point, we have a new government system and no more apartheid, so why the heck don't they plow money into the Eastern Cape and make that Province economically viable? Look at the coast line - A brilliant opportunity to develop and create tourism on a Grand Scale, and provide Jobs for the poor people there. Sorry but the ANC and all other parties and politicians are just a bunch of fakes and just protect the rich. They could have done much better up to now.

  • byron.jay.37 - 2012-08-10 09:34

    Its not about who is doing what, its about what we collectively are not doing for our people. "A good leader takes a little more than his share of the blame, a little less than his share of the credit."

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