ANC risks losing favour - Vavi

2012-07-13 14:44

Kwadlangweza - The African National Congress risks losing working class support unless it tackles poverty, Congress of SA Trade Unions general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Friday.

"The liberation movement has the risk of falling out of favour with the working class," he told the 13th national congress of the SA Communist Party, held near Empangeni in KwaZulu-Natal.

In his address to the almost 2 000 delegates, Vavi said the members of the tripartite alliance agreed on what needed to be done, but lacked political will, "which leaves much to be desired".

He said on average the position of black South Africans had deteriorated since the advent of democracy in 1994.

"We have not benefited for the past 18 years. There is no debate [on this fact]. In economic terms it is capital that has ripped the fruit of our hard-earned freedom."
He said that for economic transformation there needed to be unity in the tripartite alliance.

"No economic transformation can be led by a divided factionalised organisation."

Vavi said that the working class was angry and frustrated because the "apartheid fault lines remained, in economic terms".
"There has been a reverse redistribution from the poor to the rich."

He said blacks on average tended to earn eight times less than whites - the same income inequality that existed in 1962 at the height of apartheid.

President Jacob Zuma was due to address the congress later in the day.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-13 14:56

    What u mean 'risks losing'? They lost my vote years ago!! Useless idiots!

      Poloyatonki - 2012-07-13 15:05

      Keep your useless vote, we will vote ANC till jesus comes and goes 100 times.

      ingwani.sithole - 2012-07-13 15:08


      ron.wale.3 - 2012-07-13 16:35

      JZ for President! Anything to kill off the ANC...

      claudia.meads - 2012-07-13 18:13

      "...We have not benefited for the past 18 years..." Who are "WE" - he is another largely uneducated economic parasite that has become massively wealthy since 1994. In fact, if it was not for Apartheid (ie if Vavi lived in any other country but SA) - he would have had little more than a clerical position. "...blacks on average tended to earn eight times less than whites..." Another pathological lie: a recent study showed blacks earn on average 23% more than whites with the same qualifications (while whites marginally earn more than Coloureds and Indians).

      chris.summers.3954 - 2012-07-14 02:43

      The implication of course is that you did indeed vote for the ANC at some point Vivian. I am sorry that you didn't manage to summon up the intelligence to foresee the path leading up to the current situation. Especially in light of the numerous countries in Africa which went through the same process, all of which essentially ended up as failures. How does it feel to have been part of this change, to have put your vote in for the ANC and thereby actively supporting this process?

      chris.summers.3954 - 2012-07-14 03:06

      @Craig. Please elaborate on how white worker are "massively overpaid", at all levels. Are we talking public sector or private sector, was it judged by senority of the position, did workplace experience, formal education, or even value added by individuals to the respective companies enter the equation?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-14 13:22

      SiyandaWalterMda. But who else will they vote for at Mangaung?. I don't see any candidates, do you?.

  • danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-13 14:57

    "He said on average the position of black South Africans had deteriorated since the advent of democracy in 1994." And the beauty of it, is that it's all their own fault. :)

      Jack - 2012-07-14 09:20

      blacks are poor because of apartheid faulkt lines. so it's apartheids fault the anc is loosing favour? wow desparate times call for desparate measures

  • jaba.kov - 2012-07-13 15:00

    how can government work against poverty when you (the unions) don’t want to compromise about any issue including minimum wages - you only demand all the time! Demand demand demand. Well... Cosatu, and all the other trade organisations are the ONLY reason why I, as an employer of 74 individuals, outright REFUSE to hire anymore people! Instead of making my life trouble-free - you have made my life a living hell. If you ask any of my workers they will tell you they love me – but the Union is just outright criminal – always looking at how they can cause trouble for ‘management’ so that they can ‘show’ the workers they are not (just) stealing their money. Im rich – very rich, one day when the union pushes me to the wall, I will throw in the towel and 74 more South African will be unemployed in Jozi while I go live in the Cape. THE UNIONS ARE THE SINGLE MOST DISASTROUS FACTOR THAT STANDS BEHIND OUR APPAULING UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.

      edwin.dinake.1 - 2012-07-13 15:50

      U might be rich but your head is poor, i mean is empty. The unions are only reminding you that you were not born holdind money in your hands since u seem to forget that. Your wish is to have people to work for you without paying them, to use people as slaves. If employers were willing to improve their employees life then the wouldn't have been unions in this country.

      jaba.kov - 2012-07-13 15:54

      With all due respect Siyanda (and there is respect) I think you should tell the nonsense you wrote above to the ten million fellow South African who are going to sleep hungry every night. Fact is, a slice of bread and a cup of milk is more important than the luxuries of life. Life is indeed unfair - but the Unions and people like you are only harming the most vulnerable of South Africans. Saddest of all is that our own Government is turning a blind eye to their own electorate. Government should fight corruption, fight the unions, subsidise Petrol, Bread and milk. Make sure Eskom doesn’t over charge, create jobs by making foreign investors feel safe here… you know… the usual stuff that a government should do. Problem remains that this is not a true democracy – for that, we need a strong opposition. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, thus most South Africans will continue to suffer if they continue to vote for (agree with) the current state of affairs. One more thing… it’s not by chance that our government has invested so little in education… think about it Siyanda, it’s not racial - but it is on black & white.

      jaba.kov - 2012-07-13 16:15

      Edwin – you don’t know me, so don’t jump to sad assumptions. I’m a VERY proud South African. I own a successful factory in the Metal industry. I face stiff competition from the ANC’s best friend China yet I have managed to steer my company to profits through successful new markets in South America & Asia. My parents only had two children because they were persistent on education. I have four children because I could afford to give them the best education; sadly they have decided to leave our shores due to a violent incident (crime) our family experienced. I’m a good person, I give a lot to charities that aim in improving the lives of our poor (plz Google: Tikkun South Africa) and I am not looking for “slaves”. I’m looking for the best ways to fight unemployment – when there is no unemployed we can focus on increasing wages… its called baby steps. If China can create one Million jobs a year – there is no reason why South Africa can not do the same especially knowing full well the capabilities with our natural resources – It all has to do with management skills – and our management team (government) seem to lack these skills as they focus on parties and luxurious aeroplanes. We need to create Jobs and invest all we have in education to fight unemployment so that crime disappears and we can all live a better life. As long as South Africans continue to vote, talk and act in racial tendencies we (rich & poor) as a country will continue to suffer.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-13 18:24

      @jaba.kov - why use local workers when there's an abundance of migrant workers or refugees (from the DRC for example), chances are you won't have to deal with COSATU - most do not have legal status or documentation and will accept almost any job opportunity and are satisfied with lower wages and without formal employment contracts.

      jack.bleck - 2012-07-13 19:19

      The only way SA will come right is when it all goes balls-to-the-wall, there's an out and out proper revolution complete with the rich losing everything, government leaders being beheaded and blood flowing in the streets. Let all the anger out, burn everything to the ground - then rebuild it from the ashes with people who have known nothing but suffering their entire lives...worked for the French...

  • Allan - 2012-07-13 15:01

    Sorry Mr Vavi you and the leaders of the ANC and Cosatu have all become multi - millionaires and the poor people you claim to support have paid for it. The last 18 years have been fantastic to you and your corrupt cadre.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-07-13 15:10

      Even the last 300 years of apartheid was fantastic for you..

      Allan - 2012-07-13 15:22

      Poly Apartheid was policy of the National Party from 1948 till 1994 hardly 300 years. You too still benefit from what was created during this period!

      felix.feline.3 - 2012-07-13 15:26

      Don't waste your time on this troll Allen.

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-07-13 16:27

      Yeah, Poly seems to be one of those ignorant ones that thinks the rest of Africa looks like South Africa... Highways, Dams, Private Hospitals, Shopping Malls, Cinemas, BMWs, Mercs... You name it. Hellooooo???? In fact, we're BECOMING like the rest of Africa... Overgrown sidewalks... Corruption... Rubbish everywhere... Potholes... Robots and streetsigns full of posters... (for toordokter ramaja nogal). Street lights not working... People walking across roads everywhere they want... People pissing right next to streets... And yet, they tell us by pointing such out offends their 'right to dignity'. Etc. Etc. Etc.

  • thebe.tau - 2012-07-13 15:06

    \ANC risks losing favour\ actually not mr Vavi, political favours,tenders and kick backs will always be around, don't panic.

  • ingwani.sithole - 2012-07-13 15:08

    Kung fu kid,I'm the kung fu kid

  • - 2012-07-13 15:09

    ANC risks losing 'flavour' too. Like a chewing gum.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-07-13 15:14

    The only thing that the cANCer are risking is that they may be dragged away from their feeding troughs by the mobs. Sooner rather than later, I would hope.

  • adriaan.pieterse - 2012-07-13 15:23

    An analysis‚ based on a limited number of candidates‚ of the wage premium of affirmative action candidates by Adcorp revealed that the premium for blacks is 23.1% and for black females is 36.4% compared with their white counterparts. From article: Stop pulling info out of thin air to support your false claims Vavi. Why don't you for once come up with a SOLUTION instead of playing blame games you birk.

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-07-13 15:24

    Its SACP-ANC not origional ANC!

  • mashilo.thulare.1 - 2012-07-13 15:32

    yes just how long will they get away with false preaching of better life for long will they live with empty promises,it is time we say no to this hipocreits,maybe to them Jesus is coming back in 2014 lets wait and see. All communists ni SA are products of capitalismso how will they fight thiere creation?

  • Beverley Ainsworth - 2012-07-13 15:40

    blacks are the majority and whites the minority in south africa. all my black friends are earning 2x more than me and my educated white friends even less than the domestic worker of my mixed race family friend! i'm only saying what i know from the people around me so it is hard for me to believe that all whites earn more than blacks since 1994. only educated and qualified people can do a job well and earn what they worth. i sometimes wonder how so many blacks came to have highly paid positions at work so quickly after apartheid was demolished if they were deprived of education during apartheid era... where did they get educated and get experience from to apply for highly paid jobs so soon after apartheid??

  • keith.ngobeni - 2012-07-13 15:42

    Too late for that Mr vavi because I and my family would never put a cross on the ballot for the ANC again, were are going to vote for the DA come rain or thunder, 18yrs of empty promises that's enough to see the big incompetence that is running through the ANC government.

      danny.archer.589 - 2012-07-13 15:47

      I salute you, sir! Better late than never.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-07-13 15:45

    Clear undertone again that the whites are to blame. Whites earn to much they say. Please ANC start taking some responsibility. It was not lack of redistribution via BEE and AA but the fact that the money never went where it was supposed to go and education is in shambles with textbooks being thrown away as opposed to being delivered. SO what now ANC. DO we make the poor folk more promises that you will not keep. The whole country is poorer since 1994 except for those fat cats in Government.

  • Andre Du Preez - 2012-07-13 15:50

    Vavi YOU are a lying dumb twit

  • pmalungana - 2012-07-13 15:53

    Is time to stop singing and start swinging. The speeches that are made every day in public cannot put food on the table until one has the bolls to implement the content thereof.We have been listening too much to the politicians articulating wonderful policies but nothing on the ground is hapenning. These speeches have almost become stale that people will begin to wonder whether they should take you seriously, that is what will make the ANC loose flavour

      Titi - 2012-07-13 17:14

      Spot on

  • michael.m.rauch - 2012-07-13 16:00

    how is replacing white people with black people going to help anyone? award free education to previously disadvantaged to level the playing field. I'm sure the "8 times more" is taking into consideration that a vast majority are living off the R1100 odd a month social grant, so 8x more than that is around 9k a month which isn't exactly a millionaire. stop filling the masses with false ideas of every white person being rich.

  • ron.wale.3 - 2012-07-13 16:33

    ANC risks losing favour? I don't see a problem with this! How is this newsworthy?

  • casskot - 2012-07-13 16:49

    Dear Mr Vavi, I would like you to please inform us of the amount of salary you received pre 1996 and compare it to how much you being paid today.Unions like you have played the biggest role on creating this huge void between rich n poor to serve your own interests as a union and to grow your memebership. The huge salary being paid to public servants etc is your doing. Instead the salary rates have been so accelerated that the poor became left out make that lost out. Now u want to plead their case. This makes you responsible for creating that kind of inequality in the first place.

  • bulelwa.poni.9 - 2012-07-13 17:14

    the 'blacks' [and everybody else] will remain impoverished, not by political oppression/exploitation, but until they begin to "WORK" ... taking responsibility for themselves, individually, not expecting handouts from others! MONEY DOES NOT GROW ON TREES, NEITHER IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S POCKETS!

  • davy.botha - 2012-07-13 18:08

    Carry on ANC, COSATU and SACP see how the people are suffering and blame those who are not in power, say that you will not give in while +/-25% people are unemployed and you are doing nothing to help accept criticise. I just feel sorry for those who do not judge on performance but supports on sentiment!

      tobydt - 2012-07-13 18:18

      Eh, I dont feel sorry for them. I dont feel sorry for the kids not receiving textbooks, not receiving healthcare. They voted ANC, not me.

  • Vince.York - 2012-07-13 18:42

    BEE Black Market Deals have killed SA, and the 'tripe parties' snuffed anything else out.

  • richard.pritz - 2012-07-14 05:56

    Its the anti free market policies that the ANC and Cosatu espouses that has resulted in the working class becoming poorer.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-14 13:20

    Same old story, same parrot.

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