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ANC says Zuma finances 'private'

2012-12-07 19:12

Johannesburg - The ANC declined to comment on a Mail & Guardian report on Friday claiming President Jacob Zuma had more benefactors than previously thought to cover his debts and expenses.

"We can't comment on a private matter as an organisation. It has nothing to do with anybody," spokesperson Keith Khoza said.

The African National Congress would not discuss the report with Zuma either, on the grounds that his finances were private.

"We cannot dignify irresponsible reporting by the Mail & Guardian; this has got nothing to do with the public office and the office of the president."

The Young Communist League of SA (YCLSA) said the story was "repackaged" gossip, using old tricks intended to discredit Zuma ahead of the party's 53rd national conference in Mangaung, where the party's top leadership will be elected.

Mangaung written all over it

"The story has nothing [but] Mangaung written all over it, and takes us back five years ago where the media was used to try and dissuade delegates from pushing ahead with the election of the President Jacob Zuma," said Mawethu Rune, YCLSA deputy national chair.

The information in the report was not tested either, denying Zuma the right to reply, it said.

The YCLSA believed that "the more the slander targeted at victimising President Zuma, the better he stands to be re-elected".

According to the 500-page KPMG report, a 2006 forensic probe into Zuma's finances revealed that former president Nelson Mandela gave him R1m to help settle his debts.

According to the report, Mandela came to Zuma's rescue in June 2005, a few days after he was fired as deputy president and after the National Prosecuting Authority announced it would charge Zuma with corruption relating to alleged bribes from French arms company Thales.

A total of 783 payments were made to Zuma by his corruption-convicted, former financial adviser Schabir Shaik, amounting to more than R4m.

Benefited

Zuma benefited from several businessmen, including his nephew Khulubuse Zuma, and Durban businessman Vivian Reddy.

According to the report large commercial banks "bent over backwards" to accommodate Zuma because of his political position, writing off his bad debts.

Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory spokesperson Sello Hatang said he was not in a position to comment on Friday as he did not have the information contained in the KPMG report.

Comment from presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj could not immediately be obtained as he was out of the country with Zuma, who was on a working visit to Tanzania. An official in the presidency said only Maharaj could comment.

Mail & Guardian editor Nic Dawes said the paper ran the story without seeking comment first from Zuma or others named in it, contrary to their right of reply practice. This was because the risk of being prevented from publishing it "was real".

Full story?

The Democratic Alliance said Zuma had to take a leave of absence until his name had been cleared.

"The full story will come out eventually, but until then President Zuma must take a leave of absence from his office until these allegations have been proved or discounted," said Democratic Alliance MP James Selfe, who is also chairman of the DA federal executive.

The KPMG report was prepared ahead of Zuma's high court appearance on corruption charges in 2006. It was however not used once the charges were dropped, after the NPA said it had found evidence of interference in the investigation.

The DA was trying through the courts to get the tapes which formed the basis for the decision to have the corruption charges dropped, and the record of the decision.

The Christian Democratic Party's Reverend Theunis Botha said Zuma could no longer be considered a suitable candidate for president, called for him to step down, and for a caretaker president to be appointed until the controversy around the funding of his home in Nkandla was resolved.

Comments
  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-12-07 19:21

    Il bet they are!!!!!!!!!Very well hidden too!!

  • andrew.pottow - 2012-12-07 19:24

    Finances cease to become a private matter as soon as you enter a position of public service, not least being an elected president.

  • Strikeback - 2012-12-07 19:28

    What about other criminals. Are their finances also "private". Nice try though! www.strikeback.co.za

  • Erna - 2012-12-07 19:33

    There are politicians in the world who have resigned for a whole lot less, like having an affair. If only our politicians had values and accountability?

      yar.wellnofine - 2012-12-07 19:41

      But then Mangaung would be empty!

  • joe.irwin.50 - 2012-12-07 19:39

    Absolute bull. Everyone with a brain knows how corrupt he is and therefore he has lost any rights to privacy. The ANC as an organisation are condoning the actions of this man and are obviously as corrupt as he is.

  • warren.carne.9 - 2012-12-07 19:39

    So the ANC can't comment,what a joke,the head of their organisation is a proven crook and they got nothing to say,I don't think people realise just how bad the ANC are for this country,I don't care what colour the president is or what party they come from,just do a f-ing proper job.

  • luzukotosh - 2012-12-07 19:40

    Of coz

  • sam.samuelson.399 - 2012-12-07 19:43

    "We can't comment on a private matter as an organisation." Yeah, sure they would tell the same if there was such a report about Zille or Terror ;)

  • jannie.kotze.7 - 2012-12-07 19:48

    "We cannot dignify irresponsible reporting by the Mail & Guardian; this has got nothing to do with the public office and the office of the president." It has everything to do with us the taxpayer, who's money zoompie misappropriated! Your slime smooth talking does not impress us at all!

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-12-07 19:50

    Nothin will happen to Zummie he'll properly give himself a presidential pardon.ANC as usual full of excuses

  • tobydt - 2012-12-07 19:50

    Our president is a worthless piece of $h17.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-12-09 23:20

      AGREED! AGREED! AGREED AND AGREED, although even my doggie's turd has some use unlike the "president"of the anc and all its nitwits!

  • Julia Griffiths - 2012-12-07 19:54

    His finances my be private, however, he is a public figure and has used i assume state resources ti finance his lifestyle. Under the circumstances his finances are therefore not private. It needs a forensic audit

  • ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2012-12-07 19:57

    It should rather read: ANC says Zuma corruption 'private'

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-12-07 19:58

    Shielding the most scandalous president south africa has ever had,its so sad indeed anc is goin down fast just as Zimbabwe has ruined Rhodesia.

      muke.matshaba - 2012-12-07 20:25

      Anthony why did u run away from zim then n whats ur currency?stop hiding behind ur finger this freedom fighters r destroying everything n at the end of the day the country is left wth nothing but poverty n joblessnes,most of them die still in office.

      rontheogre - 2012-12-08 11:49

      Anthony, wake up. It has been common knowledge that Zim has vast amounts of good quality diamonds since way before the Smith government was toppled. If you are Zimbabwean you are putting their education level to shame. Ask any Zimbabwean whose strings are not being pulled by Bob and Zanu and you will hear that the Zim government is to blame. The last election results proved that to such an extent that Mugabe had to refuse to relinquish power. Forgot that bit, didn't you?

  • ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2012-12-07 20:05

    17 february 2012: Zuma states that South africa won't tolerate corruption! Ya... Sure !

  • trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-12-07 20:06

    PRIVATE???? HE got F!@#$-..ALL...it's all STOLEN TAX PAYERS MONEY...VIVA...VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN..you FOOLS

  • amanda.matthews.14811 - 2012-12-07 20:07

    You all totally miss the point. Zuma is guilty of misappropriation of funds via the Armscor deal. Finis en klaar. Let all the Opposition Parties hammer away until we have a Court hearing. Keep on hammering away. On and on and on and on.

      dave.elmore.5 - 2012-12-07 20:29

      And on again....great comment and kudo to the Mail and Guardian today for posting what they did, took guts and shows that a free press is vital to this country

  • Zahir - 2012-12-07 20:07

    Anc stategy lie and deny the truth about zoomer and corruption is already out there

  • michael.kleber.376 - 2012-12-07 20:08

    Jacob would never dream of doing such things helping a benefactor get a tender , never . he is too honest (says he sarcastically)

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-07 20:09

    President JZ's financial issues r private....as much as Helen Zille finances nd the rest of SA citizens....the ppl leaking out such information should be dealt with....

      aspruyt - 2012-12-07 20:13

      You got a finger in the pie or just disadvantaged in the logic department?

      stewart.laidlaw.5 - 2012-12-07 20:14

      Go and get knotted. Moron

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2012-12-07 20:20

      Ever heard of the term public figure? Only fools follow blindly!

      Antipoaching - 2012-12-07 20:21

      Zilles finances are not private, she has to declare her 'interests' to WC Legislature... Which Zuma has 'forgotten' to do for the last 4 or so years The only difference between Zuma and Zille is that she is an honest person

      trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-12-07 20:28

      does the ZOOM zuum ...pay TAX?

      tobydt - 2012-12-07 20:32

      If you are in PUBLIC office, then your life is no longer private. If jacob doesnt like it, he must resign.

      Adeeb Saban - 2012-12-07 20:38

      Retarded, product of Eastern Cape education system

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-12-07 21:01

      Musa is not an EC Edu product. He is 4rm KZN, he passed STD2 in Nkandla JSS. A real A-hole

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-08 10:15

      Not the only difference, Antipoaching. She has a firm understanding of democracy, ethics and the constitution and upholds and defends all three.

      rontheogre - 2012-12-08 12:02

      You clearly do not understand what the definition and subsequent obligations of the words "public servant" entails. When accepting the job as a public servant and being paid with public funds you immediately lose the privacy protection related to your finances, be it the post of president or policeman. It is one of the measures to protect against public servant corruption, but in this case you seem to condone it. Must be your guilty conscience speaking.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-12-09 23:24

      not private when you are stealing tax money. You a result of OBE? No independent thinking in this comment!!

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-12-07 20:10

    More and more excuses as usual.The People's money must be accounted for as it is not private money.

  • Antipoaching - 2012-12-07 20:14

    no they are not Private! A public figure who holds the highest political office in SA does not have 'private' finances, he is accountable to the citizens for his financial status, income sources etc... Anything else would allow him to be corrupt and wield his influence to benefit his cronies... Oh wait, thats what Jacob Zuma does! Most unethical, corrupt, crooked President prize goes to......

  • sandile.ndlovu.9843 - 2012-12-07 20:22

    Please Mr President just do us all Anc members the right thing step aside and clear ur name and let the Deputy president continue ur duties while ur charges of corruption are proven not guilty at a court of law as a Anc comrade I beg u to step aside and prove that ur are not guilty of all these alleged corruption charges to save Anc,our democracy and for the republic as a whole

      tobydt - 2012-12-07 20:33

      Jacob wount step down, as he is not innocent.

      ernest.letsoalo - 2012-12-07 20:56

      A true comrade should do exactly that,step aside and clear your name 1st cos alrwady,he has put a bad image on ANC in general and that's not good

      Erna - 2012-12-07 20:57

      He can't prove that he is not guilty. The writing is on the wall.

  • tjak.annersom - 2012-12-07 20:49

    Private???? Even if it is fraud???

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-07 20:50

    As a public figure, his financial conduct should be beyond reproach, holding the highest public office in the land comes with responsibility to the people. Good joke!!!

  • sabelo.mcondobi.7 - 2012-12-07 20:53

    True...Zumas financial affairs are a private matter everyone struggles in life. The paper Mail and Gurdian will never succeed in its attept to discredit our President...Zuma. You can go on make the ANC and ZUMA a laughing stock ekupheleni kosuku umenzi wobubi nosomayelenqe akasoze aphumelele. Its explicit now that Mail and Guardian is working with counter revolutionary forces. All those efforts to discredit Zuma prior to Mangaung to make him lose the ANC Presidency won't see the light of day. The public including ANC foes must be informed that we already placed Zuma in ANC Presidency for the next 5 (five) years to lead us as President. Mangaung is just a formality,

      tobydt - 2012-12-07 21:07

      Why do you defend this dude? What do you have to gain from it?

      michael.kleber.376 - 2012-12-07 21:25

      you poor lost soul you too believe macs lies

  • alananthonygreen - 2012-12-07 21:05

    Hope your bloodline stops with you sabelo. How can you not see that the sa citizens are paying to sustain these King wannabees including you, you moron.

  • dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-12-07 21:07

    Awesome!Great to hear. So this means I can also become corrupt as hell and not go to jail because my financial matters are private? BS my business gets audited because that is law. And if my financial statements doesn't reflect correctly at the end of the year I get charged with corruption and get my ass shoved in jail!

  • Emanuel Ratshimume - 2012-12-07 21:07

    Vivian,shaik,kalakabushe,support Zuma becouse he make them rich but only Shaik arested for corruption, RAMAPHOSA MUST BE AWARE ZUMA want to put Him close to cover His corruption cases. If Ramaphosa can alow to be used by Zuma, He'll lose his wolthy by paying Zuma's leagal represantatives. Zuma want Ramaphosa becouse Ramaphosa is too rich if Motsipe was involved in the politic he'll invite him in dupity president. He give Khosa's child a child in order to get financial support from Khosa becouse he(KHOSA) is also rich.

      msizi.luthuli.14 - 2012-12-08 13:34

      Emmanuel carry on assiciating youself with the poor

  • sandy.sutherland.58 - 2012-12-07 21:20

    So Keith Khoza you idiot - you think that stealing tax money and fraudulant activities is private, I guess that is why you traitorous retards want the info protection racket - so you can steal south africa blind even more! Well EFF YOU A$^WIPE!

  • mzwakhes - 2012-12-07 21:40

    Zuma and Malema story of personal enrichment are the same, they both used political influence to get tenders for their friends, So that they can benefit but Malema is the only one that is investigated and charged, when questions are raised about Zuma, ANC says that Zuma finances are private where is the truth here? When is ANC politician are going to realise that they are digging a hole for SA finances with all this frauds?

  • allan.rosenberg.752 - 2012-12-07 21:56

    This puts a whole new spin on money laundering. When SARS quaries any unusual large aquasition of an individual. It is obviously one's democratic right to refrain from divulging any information on the grounds of income being a private matter.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-12-07 21:57

    Not if you hold a public office. A president must lead an unquestionable and a life free of corruption.

  • bee.mthethwa - 2012-12-07 22:01

    Zuma is our president leave him the f#ck alone; lol

      sandy.sutherland.58 - 2012-12-07 22:07

      so Bhekanani you are also involved in corruption? Why else would you protect this POS - you are a traitor!

      tobydt - 2012-12-07 22:33

      F*** no, if JZ wants to be left alone, he must resign and face his corruption charges.

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-12-08 06:16

      He may be your president as you morons voted him in. Unfortunately you are to proud to admit you made a mistake and will repeat the same stupid action to remain part of the gang that supports him. I pray for you to be granted to wisdom to start thinking and acting for yourself and not be just another sheep in the flock who will follow the leader over the cliff to sure death.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-12-07 22:01

    The ANC says Zuma's finances are private. I disagree, he is the countries president and the people have a right to know how he affords the lifestyle he does.

  • baartman - 2012-12-07 22:25

    I'm no zuma fan, but I find it strange that these documents or findings makes its way to a newspaper few days before mangaung! I mean the audit was done in 2006 why only now are all revealed? I smell a rat. And besides I stand under correction but its unconstitutional to audit someone without them knowing! I mean banking details are talked about! A court should order this or what?

      tobydt - 2012-12-07 22:35

      A court did order this. These were the documents that the NPA was going to use as evidence in the JZ trail. Unfortunately the case got dropped (political solution) before the the report was presented.

      tobydt - 2012-12-07 22:39

      As for the timing, like M&G said, they hope that the information will be used by the mangaung mob to make the right decision. Unfortunately, cant count on that. The mangaung mafia will be a bunch of braindead zombies.

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-12-07 22:27

    South Africa got 19 million from the UK to improve our HIV program, Zuma uses 17 million on his own home.... South Africans.. you better start making plans to take this guy out, as he will make you BURN

  • lungelo.nsibande.7 - 2012-12-07 22:37

    Apartheid form of reporting! In the 1960 To 1991 The world was told everything was great in SA by the same owners and apartheid funders who are running the media even to this date. Their purpose is to disrupt delegates whom had mandates from their branches. It shows that they do not understand the operations of the ANC even today. We know them they are puppet used by DA and others!white morons. Most of them benefited from apartheid government and are living in Europe, controlling our minerals by satellite. They will never succeed. Now they are recruiting future leaders in Universities, they will also not succeed (linden Mazer).The truth shall prevail, even their children will know the truth and disown thIs killers, Oppressors,etc. Live Zuma alone he is our choice leader! We fought for this Democracy! Majority rule.

      alican.francem - 2012-12-07 22:55

      Freedom of corruption. Thanx

      LoplopBirdSuperior - 2012-12-08 09:41

      "...controlling our minerals by satellite". That made me laugh, well done. And recruiting future leaders from Universities? Where would you rather they recruit them from? Standard 3?

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-08 10:21

      Controlling our minerals by satelite? Have you stopped taking your meds again?

      sean.sylvester.9 - 2012-12-08 11:33

      lungelo.nsibande.7 you stupid idiot hw can say that the thing is in this county its hard for people to get a job with a high qualification that's way we as engineers leave this country, the government especially the ruling party is running this country into the ground with Zuma as its shower taking, machine gun shooting, double headed president!

      rontheogre - 2012-12-08 12:15

      Lungelo, once again, these media groups are mostly majority black owned and report the same facts that the ANC indoctrinated SABC reports. The HSBRC report was commissioned by the NPA, the case was investigated by the SAPD, both institutions managed and run by the ANC. Do you suggest that the ANC is so weak minded that they could be controlled by the DA without knowing it? That makes you and other ANC the MORONS doesn't it. There is no replacement for proper education!

  • shaun.miekle - 2012-12-07 22:38

    Time to feed Zuma a lead pill

  • bokbal.bliksem - 2012-12-07 22:53

    As the president of a country, he should be the most transparent of all. In a democratic society, the people should have the say as to what happens with their money, and lets face it, it is the taxpayers money. Just goes to show the nonsense this government is up to, when trying to hide what goes on. How do the clowns that vote these idiots in not see this? I know most are uneducated, but come on, lack of education doesnt mean lack of brain. Common sense, perhaps, but after 18 years of this government, and things have simply gone downhill, how can even the people not see they are full of crap??

  • oliphant.mzolisi - 2012-12-07 22:58

    We all agree that his finances is private but when it comes to the tax payers money its no longer private and when it comes to the degrading of our country its no longer private,when it comes to the head of state being implicated in corruption its no longer private,when it comes to the leader of the political organisation like ANC which is respected and trusted by the mojority of our people and the world as a oldest liberation movement its no longer private.

  • thabo.shaku - 2012-12-07 23:40

    Absolutely nothing private about our tax money!!

  • raulcharliebravo - 2012-12-08 00:34

    Take leave until his name is cleared? Than he need to take leave forever as his name will never be cleared until the day he is in court. How many charges? 400 or 500? I lost the count!

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-12-08 04:04

    Showerhead / Peckerspear is a lecherous and thoroughly corrupt lying thieving prick who belongs in goal !!

  • sonti.rapatsa.5 - 2012-12-08 05:39

    Malema' finances were exposed any1 to see. Why Zooma getting special treat?

  • sonti.rapatsa.5 - 2012-12-08 05:39

    Malema' finances were exposed any1 to see. Why Zooma getting special treat?

  • Strikeback - 2012-12-08 07:04

    Politics is like organised crime, only more arrogant. Here people openly state that "so called democratic rules" will be abused in three month's time to reach a political objective. If I had any respect whatsoever for any politician, I would have lost it now. www.strikeback.co.za

  • firmsly.kabelo - 2012-12-08 07:12

    Keith Khoza has Jackson Mthembu poured you that cheap whisky! Corruption cannot be personal matter,especially if the person alleged being a sitting President of a country.

  • lance.elliott.3914 - 2012-12-08 09:02

    Zuma finances 'private' ??? I will definitely take the presidents lead if SARS knocks on my door again...I'll say.. "sorry I cant help you, my financial matters are 'very private',please seek dontations for the presidents hime elsewhere"

  • hendrik.breed - 2012-12-08 09:10

    According to the report it wasn't tax money, but other benefactors, corrupt businessmen like Schabir Shaik. That puts him in their pockets. Very disturbing. Imagine Obama linked to a Colombian drug lord. But of course, this is Africa..