ANC slams British for Marikana crisis

2012-09-16 19:00

Johannesburg - ANC leaders have blamed British media, “populism and mavericks” – such as expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema – for the ongoing violence in Marikana and surrounding mines.

But members of the party’s national executive committee (NEC), the party’s highest decision-making body between conferences, at its meeting in Pretoria this weekend differed over whether party infighting was also partly to blame.

The ANC’s national working committee (NWC) warned in a report tabled at the meeting by party secretary general Gwede Mantashe that "Marikana" has become interchangeable with the governing party’s leadership battles ahead of its elective conference in Mangaung.

The report said Marikana is held up as evidence of why the party should replace its leaders.

A source who attended the meeting and who wants to see Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe replace President Jacob Zuma, said former defence minister Siphiwe Nyanda and Western Cape secretary Songezo Mjongile questioned how Mantashe “could equate everything that happened with Mangaung”.

They argued the ongoing violence at Marikana, where police shot dead 34 protesters after 10 people were murdered in the days before “confirmed there is a vacuum of leadership”.

Charging Malema

They also criticised the indirect call to charge Malema for encouraging workers from other mines to strike.

“If the police go and arrest Julius Malema for illegal gatherings, that instruction would have come from Luthuli House [the ANC’s headquarters] and that is a problem because the police must decide on the basis of facts,” the source said.

He also said Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, who last week slammed Malema as a counter-revolutionary for meeting with soldiers, “broke ranks” by saying the ANC and government should apologise for the deaths at Marikana.

Mapisa-Nqakula, who is seen to be a Zuma supporter, said “you can’t kill so many people and think it is normal. We ourselves were shocked".

In the report the ANC complained the party and state institutions, were “deliberately being delegitimised”.

To repair the likely damage to a relationship between the ANC and mine workers, the party proposed “more political work” be done in mining communities.

In the report, the NWC had the following to say about the individuals and organisations it believes are behind the crisis at Marikana:

Lonmin and British media

"The emphasis on Lonmin being a British mining company derives from the British media’s offensive on the South African government without even mentioning the role of, or [role] supposed to be played by, the employer.

"This narrow approach has created space for resentment against black South Africans, wherein minority shareholders who happen to be black get blamed as having the sole responsibility in the company."

Renamo-type movements

"The prominence of the destructive role played by populism and mavericks points to the possibility of the creation of liberated zones for counter-revolution and connection of the zone into a Renamo-type movement."

Renamo, the Mozambican National Resistance, is a political party in Mozambique that started as a rebel movement fighting Robert Mugabe’s Zanu-PF and Frelimo (the Liberation Front of Mozambique) during the Mozambican civil war.

Expelled ANCYL leader

"The Marikana tragedy has been exploited by many forces, among them Malema and the Friends of the Youth League, opposition parties, a section of the clergy and some within structures of the ANC."

Leadership battles

"The name of Marikana is being used interchangeably with that of Mangaung.

"It is now being explained as evidence of a weak leadership that must be changed in Mangaung. The problem is not lobbying for preferred candidates in the 53rd national conference, but the readiness with which we are prepared to bleed the ANC to death for narrow, short-term interests.”

Internal opportunists

"Those opposed to the ANC will stop at nothing to destroy it.

“It is, however, more dangerous when the factions in our movement would also stop at nothing to destroy the ANC if in the short term 'our faction' wins.

“There is also another aspect that we need to be attentive to – that of likening South Africa with apartheid.

“This goes a long way to suggest that our leadership, both as a democratic government and as a liberation movement, is questionable.”

Mineworkers’ union Amcu

"All these violent strikes were organised by a union called Amcu, a rival union to the [National Union of Mineworkers].

“It is also interesting to make an observation that in all these instances [previous strikes], employers pretend not to be involved, creating an impression that this is a fight among unions.

“The union that succeeds in coercing workers receives a short cut to recognition if that would save further corrosion of profits.”

  • shaheen.moolla - 2012-09-16 10:01

    My Goodness! The ANC has displayed with this absolute garbage just how devoid it is of the intellectual and moral depth to deal with this crisis. It now harks back to literally the previous century conjuring up RENAMO! WTF? The ANC knows only corruption and crime these days I am afraid.

      kim.buren - 2012-09-16 19:13

      ANC just passing the buck once again. SIGH !!

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-16 19:20

      It's the ANC Red Herrings at work again. They love shifting the spotlight elsewhere to deflect attention away from their own derelict incompetence, ineptitude and corrupt dispostition. The ANC is a failure so they have to play the blame game.

      msendi - 2012-09-16 19:24

      This is the time where ANC need be strong and stop trying to please every Tom, Dick, and Harry with an intention of winning votes and pleasing the world. This is the last phase of revolution and we, as South Africans need to handle it with care. We can say whatever we like in this forum, but we cannot stop the winds of change… Unnecessary hatred will do a lot of damage than good…

      ianon.ym - 2012-09-16 19:26

      Great - can't blame apartheid on this - so now the ANC starts talking like northern BOB - blame it on the British - Oh ANC you are such a F§$%&d-up organisation!

      alf.pop - 2012-09-16 19:38

      British Media, populism and mavericks!? - My foot! What about the greedy and corrupt ANC Cadres in the mining industry? Why would a man like Ramaphosa fork out millions for the funerals of those killed - defi9nitely not out of the goodness of his heart! Stop dancing around the truth and come out with it!

      yung.shlong - 2012-09-16 19:43

      This government accept Chinese nationals as BEE so no problem. We also blame the west powers for their involvement in mining disasters. Together we can do more. Blame UK and US and look East for friendship.

      claudevn - 2012-09-16 19:49

      @Leanoardb1 Very true, would make one wonder how "objective" news24 is indeeeeedio... baring that in mind, this comment probably wont last long... just wanted to reiterate your observation... sharp eye my brother! most would have missed that =D

      max.reynecke - 2012-09-16 19:54

      I think we must stop bashing the ANC, in my culture we are taught to have empathy with intellectually retarded persons. So from now on please just smile when they make a statement and think about what your respective cultures taught you about challenged people.

      abdullah.abdullah.31105 - 2012-09-16 20:04

      "Why, why, why the hand of Britain?" as Robert Mugabe said. Africa's perennial bogeyman is always on the horizon....

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-09-16 20:36

      viva another Robert Mugabe blame the British, these clowns cant take responsibility for anything.........

      nicholas.graan - 2012-09-16 21:03

      Shades of ZanuPF coming through ...blame everyone else except ourselves and prepare to fight the invisible enemy ..Amandla!!!

      ISO - 2012-09-16 21:14

      @YUNG, South Africa is not a communist country like the Chinese and other eastern countries.I suggest you head back from the hole you crawled out. SA is a democratic country now and thats how we as South Africans preffer it!

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-16 21:59

      If I have to choose between the two devils I will choose our GOVERNMENT.

      Jellyarse - 2012-09-16 22:47

      Also Yung - your FB page lists your likes as Chinese Communist Party - You obviously haven't learned yet that communism is dead! Tw@!

      doug.norris.581 - 2012-09-17 00:27

      YungLong I think that the irony of your post is lost on most.

      Vince.York - 2012-09-17 01:27

      One wonders whether any of these characters actually 'prise wider' that gap between the eyebrows and the hairline with a car jack, before they utter such trash!

      Mark - 2012-09-17 02:04

      It was Tony B.liar and George W. Bush. Dey wantta to stil our election end to to to undamyne ou-ah soberentee. Dey also a wantta yus deh ehjents of eempahrialeesm take-a our meenaruls. I saw this before in the Ruins of Rhodesia, a 2002 movie starring a shaved ape as a tinpot dictator. Funny stuff. So successful they released a new movie every year for the last decade. Catch the latests installment coming soon. Oh wait.. I forgot to take my meds again.

      tw2066 - 2012-09-17 05:38

      Yung SHLong .... isnt that inappropriate?? As for the ANC blame game, hey I am just happy us white ous are off the hook for a bit, We usually get blamed for everything.

      george.outremer - 2012-09-17 08:41

      There is a crisis in the ANC 'Kraal': The court jester has turned into a fox; the chickens have scattered in all directions, and are blaming the world for this unfortunate state of affairs Puk, puk, puk, we need a rooster(sic).

      peterdonb - 2012-09-17 08:47

      It is interesting to see how the ANC reports to their highest decision making body (NEC) between Congress. We haven't seen the whole report, so it may be that the details left out in this article proofs me wrong. I would have thought that they would use structured crisis reporting methods like SWOT (strenghts, weaknessess, opportunities and threaths) to enable their NEC to make informed decisions or any one of the other derivatives used in power politics? Every crisis offers its own opportunities and that is what political strategists should concentrate on. In this article it seems that they only concentrate on allocating blame and looking for excuses. If this is the extend of their reporting - and I don't say it is - then it is no wonder that they miss all the opportunities handed to them by Malema and the FYL.

      deabreu - 2012-09-17 08:49

      The ANC is starting to sound like Mugabe, it is always the British, the Americans, the Whites and the Martians, but NEVER the corrupt, incompetent government - or the illegal strikers in this case!

      arthur.hugh - 2012-09-17 10:52

      Gotto love how it's EVERYBODY'S fault EXCEPT the ANC's.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-17 11:03

      Yung S.H. Long. You mean look East to those that slaughter our Rhinos, Elephants and Lions?. No thank you. The moment China can't profit from what ever they are gone. Why would we want to be friends with people who think Rhino horn, the same substance as your toenails, are beneficial to their health?. We are trying to lift this country out of the dark ages, not bury it there.

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-09-17 12:25

      “This goes a long way to suggest that our leadership, both as a democratic government and as a liberation movement, is questionable.” Yes it is questionable because you are neither a democracy nor a liberation movement. The liberation of South Africa ended in 1994, now it is time to govern and governing a nation can be very difficult. Now is the time for making tough choices. If you continue to think of yourselves as a struggle or liberation movement then you must identify an enemy. Who is it? After you identify an enemy you must put forth maximum effort to defeat that enemy. Again who is this enemy that you are "struggling" against and against whom you are striving to be "liberated." If you are struggling to be liberated then it is logical to assume that you are willing to hurt this enemy. If so please come clean before the world and tell all those who supported you in your struggle against apartheid who is you enemy that you are willing to hurt in order to win your struggle. Democracy; not really. You are a "paper" democracy. You have one party that meets at it's NEC meetings where they determine a slate of people who will be on the ballot and then those people are elected. Outside of the Western Cape the ANC is the only viable party. It may come as a shock, but if you look at history, all over the world, single party governments are over thrown. The greatest friend to the long term survival of the ANC is a STRONG DA.

      long.tom.509 - 2012-09-17 13:19

      just for the Chinese man downstairs,if SA looks east for friendship the locust will come here and devour the lot

      darryl.maze.3 - 2012-09-17 14:28

      They just love blaming everyone else for the stuff ups except themselves. Never once has the ANC admitted doing wrong

      mzondistanley - 2012-09-17 16:07

      News paper Stories do not trust everything they write, they are in the Business of selling Newspapers foirst and formost!! They can lie and still earn their salaries!!

  • demi.davidson.18 - 2012-09-16 10:06

    Well the anc regime is sure as hell not going to take responsibility for its own f*%k up. And of course the British are always a good scape goat for any government/individual who is unable to govern and just plain plank-thick/stupid. Hope the British government take note of these rantings and do what they've done to mugabe: ban these hyprocrites and their hangers-on from their country - permanently. The British don't need zuma or the likes of him. Oh, and the anc forgets "they" moulded/created malema but now the monster has turned on its masters!

      peter.huxham.9 - 2012-09-16 19:59

      Demi not sure the British governement was blamed, it seems they only put blame on the black partners of Lonmin and failed to mention the possible blame of the rest of the partnership.

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-09-17 00:29

      RUBBER BULLET CASING??!! Yeah right, my name is Zuma by the way. you can see the frikkin steel pellets in the damn thing. Get the correct pictures

  • mathivha.obert - 2012-09-16 10:25

    It has became so fashionable to blame all what is happening in our country to Malema because leaders have been caught off-guard - they never knew how to explain all these violent protest culture that predates Marikana tragedy by years. The most easiest way out for idiots like Zuma would have been apartheid caused all these, but now Malema has become a new scapegoat. Never Surrender, Never Retreat - continue exposing and irritating them like that chicken licken TV advert until they comply & stop selling out. ANC politicians must stop thinking running a country is like running some MK Guerrillas somewhere in the bushes of foreign land with illogical conspiracy theories being the order of the day. Zuma must go!

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-09-16 22:15

      The national working committee of the ANC (NWC) must quickly retract/apologies for their statement about the British media to be blamed for Marikana cause the Brit media will put all their resources together and expose you guys as greedy , corrupt liars and sale out that you are. They will do this year after year, until this government, ANC and S.A as a country the whole world will start looking at us like the scum of the earth . You know what they did to the Boers and Mugabe and his country. Even though Mugabe got his people their Land back, You guys are just felling your pockets and blinging for the very same people that your meant to represent. At the moment the Brit media is standing with the our miners and our own organisation is not, they decided to stand with mining companies. The NWC should also apologies to the miners for not siding with them, cause when voting time come we are going to need them. Lastly apologies maybe to Juju cause Juju went to Marikana after the shooting not before. Yes He stole the limelight for everyone. But its not to late to make the change and start supporting our people, slave salaries time is over.

  • sandradic - 2012-09-16 10:47

    This article further highlights the downward spiral the ANC is experiencing under it current structure and leadership. The structures of the ANC worked prior to 1994, but is dismally failing them now. The ANC needs reform.

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-09-16 10:58

    hehehehe so now it's "the British" that are to blame. Well, we've finally reached the tipping point. Just like mad Bob next door, the ANC are now blaming the British for our woes. Welcome to La La land people. Jacob Zuma, wanker-in-chief, in the cockpit ...

      jimi.vanderwesthuizen - 2012-09-16 19:45

      He no wanker... too many friends with daughters.

  • keith.recore - 2012-09-16 11:00

    perhaps a mirror when ANC leaders meet should be placed in front of them and maybe in this way they can see some of who had a hand in this crisis as well as several other never ending crisis???

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-17 11:09

      Keith.recore. They can't see themselves in the mirror. They are all afraid it is the devil. Blame Livingstone for that. He dished out mirrors and beads, and you know what happened then.

  • ivan.moor.9 - 2012-09-16 11:24

    Thank heavens the ANC had nothing to do with, or apologise for, events at Marikana. For a while I was worried. Thankfully it is the Brit newspapers which are at fault. All serene then, nothing to be done on our side and it is back to business as before. Maybe a day of mourning for the dead rabbit?

      brendaanne.anderson - 2012-09-16 19:58

      Ivan - you are very funny !!

  • martin.ledger.5 - 2012-09-16 11:30

    The ANC wil never admit to their own failings, and always blame others.

  • jack.mabrigado - 2012-09-16 11:51

    The british can discredit us black south africans, but they cannot improve our living conditions. If we don't change our living conditions then we will suffer forever. The ANC must note how two faced the propanganda driven british media is.

      rink.hals.1 - 2012-09-16 19:34

      Sorry to disappoint you but this little incident has barely even featured in the 'British propaganda media'. They don't actually care. Stop living in a self imposed, self important bubble, and check your facts before spouting rubbish that you've been told.

      Billy - 2012-09-16 19:44

      you have your things a bit messed up there. its your own ANC that is discrediting you. YOU as a person must note how two faced the propanganda driven ANC is. im not saying this to make you angry.

      dehlia.fredericks - 2012-09-16 23:16

      jy haal hom daar yt di bos.....jy gee hom alles, maa dai bos, hy bly daa!

      anakin.skyvader.9 - 2012-09-17 09:51

      I can't seem to follow your 'logic': The british actually don't give a damn, they are too busy with an actual war in Afghanistan and elsewhere. I would be more concerned with Malema uttering non-sensical garbage on CNN. 1. "The british can discredit us black south africans"? What's in it for them? Why? 2. "ANC leaders have blamed British media..." ie it's actually the other way around ie ANC trying to create a scapegoat out of the british media, to deflect attention away from themselves. In short the british media didn't start the strikes did they now? Reporting on events unfolding can't be turned into a "shoot the messenger" scenario. Try to look past the smoke and mirrors.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-17 11:12

      Jack.mabrigado. The British, media or otherwise don't owe you a thing. Your living conditions are what they are because at the end of the day they are your responsibility.

  • nsilongo - 2012-09-16 12:23

    Such Garbage from the ANC, it says nothing on the role of NUM in mine unrest because NUM is supporting Zuma and he also shows loyalty by saying majority unions rule, and they try to protect Ramaphosa by saying he has small shares in the company, yet we know its because he is also in the zuma camp, and everything is blamed on amcu and malema. Is them blaming the british not scaring investments away if they can accuse malema of doing the same when he speaks to the workers. The emporer is really naked and no one is telling him the truth, same as blatter he will be confessing in years to come that everybody was lying to him.

  • nsilongo - 2012-09-16 12:24

    Gwede Mantashe is the most nonsensical secretary general ever, he will stuff up even a mere stokfel grouping.

      mlungisi.magada - 2012-09-16 19:58

      Well said nsilongo. It worries me when I hear some talking about retaining this palooka as SG at Mangaung.Makahambe lo xam.

      Xavier7034 - 2012-09-16 21:11

      Add Mac Maharaj to that...and what do you have? - A circus!

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-16 21:18

      Xavier, Maharaj is also a bribe taking criminal, some circus.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-16 22:03

      He cant be worse than Mabulala, Julius,s friend.

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-09-16 12:30

    100% behind Nqakula the ANC and the Government must apologise and then after Zuma, Mthethwa, Phiyega and Shabangu must resign

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-09-17 14:27

      Don't forget dear Angie Motshekga. This is great for her as it has taken all the spotlight off what has happened with schoolbooks and such in Limpopo and Eastern Cape where she is blaming the teachers and expecting them to work extra overtime because of her mess ups and Zuma hasn't said a word.

  • evans.s.mazi - 2012-09-16 12:39

    Well, at least they are fooling themselves.We are not at all fooled. Unless of course they are trying to act like Mugabe who accuses the British for his failures. ANC, come down from your leafy suburbs and face reality. You have failed this country for 18 years without any help from the British.Admit mistakes and take responsibility.The whole world reported on Marikana.FYI, when reporting on a story, background information is needed.Malema is your own creation, not the British.Not long ago you venerated Malema, forgotten that already.Please respect our intelligence.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-16 21:23

      The difference between Mugabe and the ANC NEC is that settlers who were largely of South African origin achieved self government in Zimbabwe in 1923. In South Africa the settlers who for the most part were born here and had been here for years achieved self government in 1910. Perhaps they should all blame Adam and Eve.

  • evans.s.mazi - 2012-09-16 12:47

    Talk about clutching at straws.First time to hear of one country blaming another for it's lack of governance.You can also trust the ANC to come out with such nonsense.I suppose its rank supporters will believe this and this will also make a good distraction from the really issues.

  • dick.etheridge - 2012-09-16 13:10

    Yes, and the dog ate my homework!

  • dmsdave - 2012-09-16 13:25

    The desperation and sycophancy surrounding mangaung is enormous. I do not subscribe to playing to the gallery in a matter of this nature where humans are being massacred.Rather, than addressing the issue some people in the leadership have seen it as a circumstantial exploitation. If that is true it further reveals failure of the current leadership of the ANC and its loyal cabinent members who have failed to rise up to the ocassion of truth. Lonmin massacre is still a nightmare to me which the govt is not addressing adequately.Apartheid in a new South Africa

  • makenawn - 2012-09-16 13:51

    This crop of leaders must go,frankly speaking they talk gabbage of first degree

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-16 19:56

      If all voters had a inch of a human brain cell in their heads, something we all know they don't have. They only vote on emotions and along racial lines no logic whatsoever.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-16 19:58

      If all voters had a inch of a human brain cell in their heads, something we all know they don't have. They only vote on emotions and along racial lines no logic whatsoever.

  • makenawn - 2012-09-16 14:04

    CUM LAUDE to ANC from University of Robert Mugabe

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-16 19:49

      @makenawn, SUMA CUM LAUDE to ANC from the delusional University of Mad Robert Mugabe should do!

  • mzuvukile.maswana - 2012-09-16 14:20

    How interesting! Blaming everyone except urselves. No ruling government leader wanted to take an initiative and stand infront of these aggrieved workers, no ANC leader with the community leader also wanted to lead as well yet this the party championing the cries of the poor.

      Erna - 2012-09-16 19:59

      By their own admittance they were too scared! Scared of their own people nogal!

      mzuvukile.maswana - 2012-09-16 22:42

      @Erna scared of the people who voted you into power? That is a first. Since all this chaos started I haven't seen a mayor,councillor, NUM leadership any ANC leader taking an initiative on the situation. Our politics stink! Even from day one they should have acted as only now after all that has happened do they acknowledge that it is an illegal strike. How appropiate!

      joubert.joep - 2012-09-17 04:45

      Our problem is politics - leadership is not the issue because there is none.

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-09-17 14:42

      Shouldn't we say "supposedly championing the poor". Of course Malema also pitched after the tragedy which he has been indirectly inciting for ages, which is why he got such a rapturous welcome as in typical Malema fashion he continued to spur them on to further violence and starvation. I'd have been impressed if I didn't know that 1; he had just returned from Olympic London where he had assured potential investors that he was not in favour of nationalising the mines (the thought has crossed my mind that he actually arrived too early to take part in the paralympics by running the opposite way in an event); 2. He had the remotest idea that mining requires investment in order to run it and 3 that he was offering to run at the forefront of the next wave of miners who risked and were prepared to pay with their lives because of his misleading rhetoric. Truly, in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king of bling.

  • louise.cook.127 - 2012-09-16 15:25

    Why all the fuss about the LONMIN employer? They obviously learnt well from the AURORA employer! But Lonmin still couldn't beat Aurora's performance when it comes to worker neglect and exploitation, no matter how hard it tried!

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-09-17 14:44

      How absolutely true!

  • dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-09-16 15:37

    This drivel has echoes of Mugabe - as soon as people start seeing the absolute failure of the ANC in providing proper government, point them to some bogeyman: the "Colonialist British" (can't you just hear Mad Bob?) are always a handy target: There is no media "offensive" in UK or Europe - simply reporting the truth on dead miners lying in the dust while you all scrabble for someone other than yourselves to blame. Otherwise the ANC is hardly a blip on the worldwide news radar. Sorry ANC - post-Madiba you have been in steady moral decline and are fast approaching implosion driven by individual greed and corruption. Evidence of this is that you don't even have the high ground against someone as transparently opportunist as Malema. The tragedy is that your failure to uplift and educate our own people has made them vulnerable cannon fodder unable to distinguish who is telling the greater lies.

      arnold.dumas.54 - 2012-09-16 22:04

      Just as the 1976 school children was made cannon fodder by the ANC while they were hiding in luxury and filling their own pockets.

  • louise.cook.127 - 2012-09-16 15:47

    You got to be DESPERATE like Mugabe to start blaming the BRITISH press - I mean, usually it's just the press getting blamed, but this time, it's the BRITISH press! I read some quite interesting stuff on Marikana in South American and Los Angelise papers - wonder if Mantashe ever saw that?

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-16 21:24

      A drowning man will clutch at any straw.

      william.nigh.5 - 2012-09-17 10:29

      Don't worry, when Malema is president he will close the British press down, right after he's done with Twitter and the internet and just before he sends our first exploratory mission to the sun, at night of course. Then he's going to break some bread and fishes to feed the masses and give everyone in the country a mansion and a Land Rover (it's OK, that company is no longer British-owned) and free farms and education and holidays to Mauritius for everyone!!!!

  • siyanda.yeni.5 - 2012-09-16 19:22

    The ANC must blame itself for Marikana,not the British! What have they done as the government besides sending police there,inducing more violence!!!

      mzuvukile.maswana - 2012-09-16 19:27

      Seemingly the very same ANC take things for granted. They have been mum about the AURORA issue since day one as they are seen rolling with Khulubuse on some events. Who is fooling who?

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-16 22:06

      For entertaining Malema

      tgif.wtfaw - 2012-09-17 09:11

      Rolling with Khulubuse ? excuse the Pun !

      william.nigh.5 - 2012-09-17 10:30

      Aurora? What is this Aurora? Never heard of it. Don't come with these tendencies!!! (ANC Official)

      angela.michaels.73 - 2012-09-17 19:05

      FFS they are not blaming the British, they are complaining that the British MEDIA blame the SA government without looking at the role the management of Lonmin played in this. Don't you read past the very emotive, patently incorrect headline?

  • Erna - 2012-09-16 19:23

    Oh come on - blaming everyone but their own lack of leadership!

  • Ditantane - 2012-09-16 19:24

    oh while your at it, blame Al Qaida too and don't forget the heavy rain.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-16 21:24

      Also Father Xmas, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny.

  • pierre.walt - 2012-09-16 19:28

    Blame everyone but yourself after 18 years?? F44ck off.

  • PointBlank - 2012-09-16 19:29

    There is no point changing leadership, we must chnge the government.

      adam.gardener.12 - 2012-09-16 19:40

      100% PointBlank, the anc put their BEST man in as president, and this shows they dont have what it takes to govern this country. Viva Da, Viva.

      Erna - 2012-09-16 19:54

      Agree totally. There is no-one in the anc capable of leadership. They are so busy fighting amongst themselves all the time that they forget about running the country!

  • casskot - 2012-09-16 19:31

    I cannot believe that this factions within the ANC has taken precident over showing proper Leadership with Marikana situation. It is now quite clear that they will pursue individual interest before and even at the parties expense !!!

  • bbooyse - 2012-09-16 19:32

    Are the ANC sure? It's not perhaps Apartheid again?

  • B.b. - 2012-09-16 19:33

    Let me home the mine has been nationalised, but if it's still being run by capitalists, then I don't see any reason for the government to be blame. At the end of the day, the govrnment is not going to determine the remunerations for the workers. The workers must start afresh to lobby in a legal manner so that they won't find themselved being with the police, employers as well as power hungry political opportunists. I end here

      ben.spreeth - 2012-09-16 19:49

      Read...... Marikana-truth dot com.

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-09-16 19:33

    Stop the blaming - Find a solution!

      arnold.dumas.54 - 2012-09-16 22:12

      What do you suggest? Easy to advise others to find a solution, lets start with you renier!!!!!!

      renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-09-18 19:17

      @arnold: The point I made was that the government is always very quick to blame others and very slow to accept responsibility and to rectify the problem. I do not claim to be the government - they must do their work - not the citizenry! You are suggesting I (others) must find solutions, why don't you start finding solutions rather than suggesting others to find the solutions

  • craig.hopkins.376 - 2012-09-16 19:35

    Seeing that apartheid is being overused, it's the next best thing. Soon they will be blaming it on the boer war or Jan Van Riebeeks attitude when he landed on South African shores

      mphozana.manfred - 2012-09-16 19:48

      It did cross my mind, why not blame the colonialist vele, if it was not for him, south africa would never have turned out to be this hell hole, he deserve to be blamed.

      william.nigh.5 - 2012-09-17 10:34

      @Mpho: You are right. Having a monarch who slaughters your entire village, enslaves or impales the survivors on a whim was just so much better! Aaah, such simple times

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-09-17 14:56

      Every single person in South Africa is descended from colonialist stock. This has been scientifically proven. Those who never left never advanced while those who were prepared to look for greener pastures acquired skills we still have too few of among the descendents of those who stayed and did not reap the benefit of broadening their skills base. If you keep on doing what you've always done you will end up with the same results every time. See Africa as a continent in general.Or to put it another way - no pain - no gain.

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-09-16 19:37

    Masters of the blame game.

  • mullervince - 2012-09-16 19:39

    What a load of hogwash. Why don't the ANC look into facts like the dramatically high increases since 1994 for petrol, food, electricity, water, etc and then poor service delivery (poor hospitals conditions, police services, traffic enforcement, public transport) and then bad road conditions due to high volume of trucks on our roads (no more proper railway systems), etc, etc. And the tax payers money being misused and stolen by the very ruling government, their workers and alliances. Bloody idiots

  • njdejager - 2012-09-16 19:42

    Our leaders are a disgrace to this country. Without the British companies the striking workers will not have a job WTF? They should close the damn mine and then see where they will go to strike.

  • lvhukeya1 - 2012-09-16 19:43

    vote ZUMA out 'period.

      whites.mustunite - 2012-09-16 20:08

      Vote ANC out.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-16 22:08

      Who says so Julius. Zuma will definitely win a second term while Julius will be languishing in Jail.

  • hunadimofele - 2012-09-16 19:47

    British media has got nothing to do with Marikana saga...if ANC want some1 to blame they should blame their own leadership, not Malema or any other person and the way they handling things looks like they want the rewind of the apartheid...Zuma must step down

      william.nigh.5 - 2012-09-17 10:41

      ANC must step down!

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-09-16 19:55

    Typical anc style, always someone or something else's fault, never accepting the responsibility for their inability to run the country.. But they are slowly digging their own grave ;)

  • Watkykj - 2012-09-16 19:56

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! The ANC are the definition of stupid!!

  • tom.theunissen.12 - 2012-09-16 20:00

    Blame the British??????? Can these people really take no responsibility for their own shortcommings?????? I thought the Amoebe was the only single cell organism, but clearly these anc dimwits have single cell brains.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-16 21:49

      Nope they appear to share a brain cell.

  • whites.mustunite - 2012-09-16 20:04

    Is anybody ever going to be charged for the brutal murder of the 2 policeman and the 2 security gaurds?

  • raymon.mcnelly - 2012-09-16 20:06

    Yep, it's the Brits fault... I think the ANC got hold of old BoB's playbook..... Hehehe

  • Ventilane - 2012-09-16 20:09

    Ah there's an elephant elephant standing in the room \r\nDo you wanna talk about it? wanna talk about?

  • PeteWalshZAR - 2012-09-16 20:13

    it is everybody else. Just not us or the government.

  • rink.hals.1 - 2012-09-16 20:13

    ANC meeting notes: "Let's just sit back and let it play out, we'll just blame it on the British again." "Golf this Friday? You have to show me that third house of yours by the way, oh and bring your new BMW, I'm thinking on getting another one too this year" Trust me, if the South African media where half as able as the British media is for exposing corruption, NONE of you politicians would have a job.

  • elgh.elgh - 2012-09-16 20:15

    The anc have overstayed their welcome. It is time for them to move on (To another planet). We are sick and tired of their corruption, stealing our tax money and so forth. They have no regard for anyone besides themself.

      darren.raath.5 - 2012-09-17 14:15

      yeah! i agree!! we need a new government to do that!!!

  • thulani.ndlovu.3572 - 2012-09-16 20:16

    Eishh, Cry thy beloved country...

  • malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-09-16 20:16

    It's always someone else, always.. Can't they just once accept responsibility for something?

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-09-16 20:19

    I see a lot of people saying yeah the British after all they colonized south africa . What one country in Africa has never been colonized ? Ethiopia . Look how well they did. Almost zero infrastructure ,can barely feed their own country. Yep colonization sure was bad. Would really like to be sitting in that he'll hole right now.

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-09-16 20:26

    like a stuck record is the anc. Its verwoerd's fault, its the white's fault, its the fault of the british. Face it. The anc can do nothing right or honestly. Its time to consign the party and its parasitic hangers on to the ash heap of history where they belong, right beside verwoerd.