Malema targeted as ANC Top-6 tackles dissenters

2012-04-03 22:42

Johannesburg - ANC leaders on Tuesday condemned the "shockingly crude, disrespectful and un-ANC" remarks recently made by some within the party.

"The brazen and often rude and crude rhetoric to detract from real issues facing our youth does nothing to add value to the integrity of the ANC and its leagues," secretary general Gwede Mantashe told reporters in Johannesburg.

"As national officials of the ANC, we believe the time has come to put an end to the blustering and often incomprehensible remarks that are made by various leaders and members of the ANC."

Mantashe was joined by President Jacob Zuma, his deputy Kgalema Motlanthe, treasurer Mathews Phosa, national chairperson Baleka Mbete and deputy secretary general Thandi Modise.

This followed ANCYL leader Julius Malema's remarks at a centenary lecture at Wits University on Friday, that Zuma was a dictator and suppressing the league.

Mantashe said the attack on Zuma was an attack on the African National Congress.

"It makes it sound like we can't think for ourselves. It is not a leadership of dwarfs around a dictator. This is an insult to many of us."

Mantashe said Malema's claim that new ideas were suppressed and that the ANC's current leaders were dictators was a "deliberate falsehood".

It was unfortunate that the league had chosen the ANC's centenary year to call the party undemocratic and to try sow division within the organisation. Mantashe said these statements would be investigated.

Party leaders also bemoaned the Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans Association's call, made at another press briefing earlier in the day, for Malema to be summarily expelled from the party.

The ANC Youth League called its own media briefing at Luthuli House after the veterans had held theirs, and accused them of looking for attention and trying to impress their girlfriends.

Mantashe said the ANC's top officials were united on discipline within the organisation. The leaders were also not fighting for positions ahead of the party's elective conference in Bloemfontein in December.

"We remain loyal to all decisions taken. National officials are not at odds with each other."

Mantashe said the ANC had not yet met with the league, as it was being cautious. The ANC did not want to cause confusion while disciplinary processes were ongoing, he said.

Malema is still awaiting the result of his appeal against his expulsion from the party by its national disciplinary committee.

Thandi Modise likened the ANCYL to a teenager and said tensions between it and the ANC were a given. She cautioned against a situation where antagonism replaced militancy. She also cautioned against the "bastardising" of internal ANC processes.

Asked why he did not reprimand Malema when he verbally attacked Zuma and his leadership on Friday, Phosa said he did not have the urge to immediately respond, but did so late in his speech.

"I said in response... The masses of our country do not appreciate it when leaders engage in public spats."

He was invited to the event as a replacement for Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula, a former ANCYL leader and reportedly a Malema supporter. Speculation was also rife that Phosa and Motlanthe were staunch Malema allies.

However, Motlanthe warned against those who used the ANC leaders' names to divide the organisation, saying they would not be successful. Last month, he reprimanded ANCYL members in Limpopo who wore T-shirts bearing his face.

  • Michel - 2012-04-03 23:03

    Interesting point of view on Affirmative Action in South Africa: " South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others." Finally, a word recently coined to describe South Africa's current political situation- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.”

      Patrick - 2012-04-03 23:34

      You copied and pasted this.Creativity?

      Wesley - 2012-04-04 05:28

      "Un ANC behavior", all of this is the only way I know the ANC and they will never change.

      Max - 2012-04-04 06:33

      Kolobe, you are the best example of an ineptocrat if there ever was one.

      Jack - 2012-04-04 06:38

      Not so - Malaysia has AA in place against its ethnic Chinese minority AND it's much worse than in SA. Ethnic Chinese in Malaysia are denied home loans, jobs, and choices of study! What's even worse, is that they were never advantaged (they've simply worked harder) and were even disadvantaged under the former British rule. Despite this, Malaysia remains an economic powerhouse in Asia...

      Blip - 2012-04-04 06:49 exposed this myth 4 years ago. One: there is no "London Times", claimed as its source, except for a one-man far-right blog from Australia. Two: SA is not the only nation where AA benefits the majority. It is also done in Malaysia and Fiji. Don't be so gullible!

      Eduard - 2012-04-04 07:07

      Malema start your own party!!!!! We support you...wink wink

      Marina - 2012-04-04 07:12

      @Patrick Nowhere did symi59 claim that comment as his own.

      Eduard - 2012-04-04 07:12

      @ Jackblack You are talk horse. AA does not work in a democracy. Malaysia is also a pot of trouble boiling. What goes around, comes around, the wheel turns, remember these words. All this in fighting in SA is just dragging SA future to a stop. SA(all colours and cultures SA can offer) needs to expand into Africa ASAP.

      Mitch - 2012-04-04 07:22

      @ Jackblack. Suggest you check your facts about the Chinese in Malaysia. Malaysia is a "powerhouse in asia' as a resuly of Government support of business (foreign and local)and more specifically SME's - unlike in SA. Malaysia is also Investor friendly - unlike in SA. If you are wanting to compare - rather compare SA with Zimbabwe.

      NrGx - 2012-04-04 07:45

      While the taxes are ever rising, infrastructure diminishing, hospitals in disrepair, provinces going bankrupt, crime on the rise, judicial services on the low and a hell of a lot more (the list goes on and on and one), THIS is what their primary focus is???? This just goes to show they do not care one bit for the country, but only for their ego and pockets!

      freedom.mooketsi - 2012-04-04 09:56

      @Symi59 when the majority took political power, they neglected to take everything from the 9% minority, things like land acquired by forced removals and busineses. So you must thank your lucky stars that they are actually begging this minority to give back. If you ask me, the should go MUGABE on all this minority group and repossess not only political power but also financial power.

      Omrisho - 2012-04-04 10:15

      agg please freedom, and mugabe and zim are a shining beacon of hope and prosperity in the african wilderness, what a freaking joke bro, pull the other one

      Brett - 2012-04-04 10:15

      @freedom.mooketsi you brainwashed fool. How can you "repossess" that which was never yours? Please buy or steal a dictionary and learn the meaning of the word "repossess". Why do you think that,because you are black, you have the right to take any "financial power" from those who created and earned it?

      ditantane.kganakga - 2012-04-04 10:38

      your either ignorent, stupid or know nothing about South African politics and history.

      Nathi - 2012-04-04 10:39

      @ SYMI59 have you forgotten the 400 odd years of oppression that black people went through? If you have let me be more recent. You can start by asking your parents and grandparents why they went out of their way to decimate and destroy this beautiful country of ours, by making it a country for the minorities, through Apartheid. Before you get on a high horse and start throwing up some unnecessary banter, please think about my statement. Yes we all want a country that is equall and has no prejudice, but the inequalities of the last 400yrs can't be erased in 17yrs (Look at how well that is going in Zim with 30yrs experience). And no, I'm not blaming you for the situation. Just step outside of your prejudiced box for a second and think like the intelligent human being I would assume you to be.

      Brett - 2012-04-04 10:48

      @Nathi yes the previous government decimated the country by building a first world infrastructure. And they oppressed blacks by building tousands of schools, no less than ten universities, four major hospitals and hundreds of clinics for them. How many universites and hospitals have the ANC provided in the last two decades?

      Bonham - 2012-04-04 11:19

      Check the chip on Freedooms shoulder. Grief.

      Edward - 2012-04-04 13:39

      We in the west were duped we thought that SA was really going to be a democracy. Yes everyone knew that there would be one dominant party, ANC but we didn't think that they wouldn't allow political debate within the party. How truly sad! Not for the west in supporting Mandela and the ANC with it's sanctions against that NP but for SA. If history is an indicator of the future (and it's the only reliable one that I know of) just look to the rest of the world in general and the rest of Africa in specific. There is a very clear path that SA is now on if political debate and freedom continue to be restricted and it is inevitable it's dictatorship or repressive central governments (North Korea, Zim, China). Why would any sane individual or nation want that when they still have the political power to prevent it? Julius' ideas were stupid but in a democracy he still has the right to state them. It's a sad to watch what is happening to SA. The more the ANC tries to repress free speech the faster the transition and the more force will be needed to enforce it's repression.

      bophela1 - 2012-04-04 14:21

      Affirmative action seeks to address 'economic' discrepancies not political power...the 9% has all the economic power hence the need for affirmative action. Careful of what you cut and paste!

  • Brent - 2012-04-03 23:09

    Pity the ANC can't stand this united against some of the other pressing issues this country is going through.

      Christelle - 2012-04-04 03:49

      While Rome is burning, the leaders are fighting amongst themselves!!! Our government and their Youth League is an embarrassment to our country and what their predecessors have fought for. How in the world would we get investors whilst this is going on - our own circus, all the clowns, and a serious power struggle as whom is going to be ringmaster - Zuma or Malema.

      John - 2012-04-04 09:13

      Agree namad but a least malema's goose is cooked.

  • Colin - 2012-04-03 23:38

    Where have all the young men gone? Long time passing Where have all the young men gone? Long time ago Where have all the young men gone? When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? All I feel is my heartbeat, Beating like a drum, Beating with confusion. All I hear are the voices, Telling me to go, But I could never run. I listen for your heartbeat. Although my dream is just a dream, another false illusion, A shadow in the night. Lost chances, lost opportunity, a lost generation. South Africa is a land ripe with opportunities, but it takes vision and diligence to turn these into reality. What’s missing is sound and thorough planning and management, conscientious use of resources, and for the government to act in the best interests of the country rather than serving its own selfish ambitions. In 1994, at the dawn of democracy in South Africa, residents of informal settlements were elated at the news that they would be provided with houses. Yet even now, they are still waiting for their homes to materialise, and the number of shack settlements continues to grow. Moreover, partially built and tumbledown houses litter the landscape in most RDP settlements.

  • Fred - 2012-04-03 23:51

    You've left this part of the party unattended for too long. Get it in line now. Stick to the non-racist humanitarian principles in the Freedom Charter. You've deviated from these too far as well.

      E=MC2 - 2012-04-04 08:24

      its all fine when Malema voices his opinions about everything else, but now all of a sudden he turns on the ANC & it becomes a problem. I hope Malema causes such crap in the ANC ranks that it throws the whole party into disarray... VIVA DA!

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2012-04-04 00:02

    Oh one of my friends wrote this article niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-04-04 06:37

      You confuse me. Is the writer a friend of yours, which means you agree with the friend? Did you mean 'one of my has-been friends"? Or are you bragging you know the writer?

      khanyib1 - 2012-04-04 13:52

      jannie, so what if he is?

  • Andy - 2012-04-04 00:09

    Why was Malema not reprimanded when he called Zille a white bitch,or Mazibuko a tea girl. What a bunch of hypocrites. Malema will at least get rid of Zuma and his cadre gang. Now is the time for all educated voters to demand an educated leader.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-04-04 00:54

      David? Could you be more to your point.. We know it seems like a "stuck record" but embellish more on what your trying to say? Or am I just dumb here?

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-04-04 06:43

      @Neto.Maape. This spelling of your name is incorrect and a better spelling would be 'Net-'n mal-apie'.

      khwezi.ndawonde - 2012-04-04 09:07

      Andy you can be educated but if you are a fool you are a fool, we have politician in Africa with more than three degrees but they are just educated fools, Malema is just arrogant, disrespectful, attention seeker, what has he done for the youth except to make noise for sweet nothing and enriching himself, every person who can read, write no need for interpreter is educated and JZ is not running this country alone he has a team, leadership is difficult to deal with people who knows everything, we can blame his administration, and the next president it will be the same.

  • Lennon Chenga - 2012-04-04 00:39

    I'm just commenting as an outsider having studied in SA DBN during the transition into the Rainbow Nation. I saw a lot of violence between the IFP and ANC during this time (which in my opinion wld be natural when there's a change in governance) it makes me laugh and feel sad when I see the amount of hatred and misguided statements that are made on this platform. I'm born and bred Zim and the one thing I love about SA is the passion that u guys have. I believe that Zulu, Xhosa, Suthu, Afrikaner, Venda etc people of SA have passion for their land, it's unfortunate when u guys racialise (if the word exists, but the deeds do) or tribalise (again as above) issues tht as an outsider I look at as incidences! I believe that if u support yr leaders, good or bad u will reach yr goals and unite the way Madiba and yr other leaders would have wanted! Malema is an explosive character but I believe he does have good intentions that may not be expressed in an appreciated view (and I may be wrong) but having listened to our leaders Pres Mugabe included, we may not agree with the way they may handle certain issues but I believe they have the good intentions and points and we are all entitled to our own opinions. Let's express those opinions without personally attacking the next person but jus posting our own opinions. (truth is we would never listen to the words of a poor leader, as rich as Africa is, 1 person can only steal so much, we need to direct our recources towards the benefit of the masses) They are jus opinions because there's no outright right or wrong! Africa WILL be the next powerhouse as long as we respect each other irregardless of tribe skin colour etc. I do apologise if I have over stepped my boundaries!

      Roland - 2012-04-04 01:07

      Thank you Lennon for your contribution, and your appreciation for the fact that all South Africans, of all races are passionate about their country - it's good for someone from 'outside' to notice and appreciate this immutable fact. Trust in leadership, is where I have to disagree with you. You used Mugabe as an example of someone who "[you] believe have good intentions", along with others. Granted Malema might say some (very few) things that make sense - such as the unavoidable problem of gross inequality in our country, it still detracts from the problem we have here in Africa, from the Cape to the Mediterranean. People who do not care for the people who elect them. People who use THE ELECTIONS as a rise to POWER (which includes economic and social privelage) at the cost of the people they are supposed to represent and aid. Africa will not be the next powerhouse, they missed that opportunity, and let the Far-East Asians take that gap. Those people did it via stability, education and capitalism (and the secret ingredient) without blaming colonialism (and they were colonised). As the saying goes, they just "got up, dusted themselves off" and took the initiative... SO now Africa will have to wait another 100 years, and be neo-colonised by the asians (Chinese) while they continue to blame the Europeans for...for...whatever...

      Dee - 2012-04-04 02:09

      Mugabe has good intentions? Go tell that to the nearly genocided (if the word exists but the deed did) Matabele.

      Grant Howard - 2012-04-04 05:07

      You had me Lennon until you said that Mugabe has good intentions, when you said that people want to follow a rich man, and worst of all, when you suggested that leaders have opinions and can lead according to those opinions and that there is no right or wrong. My friend, governance should be by the book. There is no opinion when it comes to the law. There is a right and wrong when it comes to human rights, and Mugabe being one of the richest men in the world while his people starve is proof enough that his intentions are selfish and sick. Yet Malema supports this Capitalist pig. Lennon, you sound like a ZANU PF supporter, hmmmmm?

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-04-04 00:48

    When does all this mayhem and madness stop? There real life threatening issue at stake in our country and all this distraction is side lining or (blinding) more pressing issues! Its feels like everything has been dumped in a contaminated cess pool and nothing constructively is being done to have a sense of harmony and security for us hard working, tax paying, salt of the earth people regardless of colour and creed.. My heart bleeds for the soul of my country!

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-04-04 06:09

      Thumbs Down Why??? I have always maintained that News 24 should have a minimum IQ level for comments Thus avoiding trolls and other blatantly stupid comments,

  • Bluemast - 2012-04-04 00:49

    Gees ANC, get your act together and fire this idiot now, for pete's sake! We are tired of all of this just as you are, only difference is you are doing nothing more than just sweet talk at the moment, haven't you run out of patience yet. Let's get this over and done with now, this d...k head has caused enough disrepute not only for the ANC, but for the whole countrie's reputation as it is already! Don't you realise that he is using you as well as the media as a pawn right now to get precisely what he wants!? First crockodile tears then back to the true colours when nobody took notice of his tears!? He is playing chess with the ANC and you don't even know where you are on the board right now or even what move to make next, is there an agenda that the public is not aware of? Right now he is king of the castle, try en-passant to get an over-hand and check-mate! :-)

      Msika - 2012-04-04 08:11

      Hey seanpresherhughes_1, Zuma is playing black pieces trying to defend Malema's advanced white piecies. Problem is he (Zuma) played the weakest "Marshal Defence" against Malema's Queen's Gambit opening. Also, judging by the way he (Zuma) played against Kasparov at the union buildings the other day, I dnt see him winning this one. Also one (if not morethan one at dis stage) of his Grand masters (Kgalema Motlanthe) is secretely playing for the Malema team. Malema's "shockingly crude, disrepectful and un-ANC" remarks were purely made to disregard Zuma prior to Mangaung. I see a checkmate in 3, with Zuma loosing ofcorse.

  • Ramohapelwa - 2012-04-04 00:49

    TM & JZ made a joint statement on unity, and asked for our support. Some of us obliged and respected that. Only if we can see for a start, a joint ANC, Women's and Youth League statement, would I see it not as a smokescreen but progress. ANC SG reported he met with ANC YL SG. Are ANC and ANC YL presidents too busy and miss each other? They work for one ANC from one building. Internal this and that. All leaders should put power, selfness, own territories and emotions aside and stop blaming media.

      seanpresherhughes_1 - 2012-04-04 00:58

      It is malema himself who is currently using the media to his " advantage" so blame him! The media reports what they see and hear for themselves - reality in other words.

  • Ramohapelwa - 2012-04-04 00:49

    TM & JZ made a joint statement on unity, and asked for our support. Some of us obliged and respected that. Only if we can see for a start, a joint ANC, Women's and Youth League statement, would I see it not as a smokescreen but progress. ANC SG reported he met with ANC YL SG. Are ANC and ANC YL presidents too busy and miss each other? They work for one ANC from one building. Internal this and that. All leaders should put power, selfness, own territories and emotions aside and stop blaming media.

      Ben - 2012-04-04 06:07

      The fact is that these people used their party to get into a position where they are able to enrich themselves. Think for yourself what they feel for the A.N.C. and the people.

      Ramohapelwa - 2012-04-04 06:53

      Ben, I agree there's looting and enrichment. But leaders are elected, not as Zuma, Motlanthe, Malema and Magaqa, etc. They must be accountable-as President, DP, SG, DSG, TG, Chairperson. Same as President of the Republic, Ministers, MP's, DG's, etc in government.

      Ramohapelwa - 2012-04-04 06:54

      Ben, I agree there's looting and enrichment. But leaders are elected, not as Zuma, Motlanthe, Malema and Magaqa, etc. They must be accountable-as President, DP, SG, DSG, TG, Chairperson. Same as President of the Republic, Ministers, MP's, DG's, etc in government.

  • Smell - 2012-04-04 01:03

    I am relieved that the older guard in ANC is finally waking up to restore respectability to the level of discourse in the ANC. This is long overdue and should have happened long ago when Ms. Zille was described in shockingly rude terms by Mr. Malema. In fact Mr. Malema was much more rude to Ms. Zille than Mr Zuma. No person holding office, Black or White, should be allowed to use language like that in South Africa, where bridge building is desperately needed in the post Apartheid era.

  • Lennon Chenga - 2012-04-04 01:55

    @Bonzi I understand your frustrations! And u are probably right. I would like to direct u to a country like China where they took drastic measures like dictating how many children u could have, and food for work programs. It's never easy, and I'm sure there were a lot of citizens amongst the masses at the time tht did not agree with what was taking place but they've archieved it! I believe we under estimate ourselves. Henry Ford said Whether u think u can, or u think u can't! U are right! The elected leaders are there! Someone elected them! We have the most untapped resources in the world and I believe, we can! But only as a unified forced

  • Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2012-04-04 01:59

    Malema has caused our organisation great deal he was de one who crated cope i wonder which party is he causing to develop now also wonder will dat party going to have older people?

      Themba - 2012-04-04 10:08

      As long as he can destroy this corrupt ANC, who cares which party he forms

  • johan.peters3 - 2012-04-04 02:57

    symi59, i enjoyed your remarks but also share them, can someone please tell the leaders of the day to broadcast an attitude of work ethic, and to enjoy the fruit of your work today,tomorrow and forever

  • Robin - 2012-04-04 04:00

    Leave Julius, let him destroy the ANC. Maybe then people will start thinking about who they should vote for next election!

  • Ben - 2012-04-04 06:00

    No he should not make un-A.N.C. remarks. If he makes remarks which are not un-A.N.C. there would be the Newspapers, Courts and Public Protector to worry about. Let him rather not speak about the real character of this organisation.

  • Jo - 2012-04-04 06:06

    The ANC is all gas and no cooldrink.

      Mavhuthu - 2012-04-04 09:25

      How can south africa being frastared by someone who do not have repect. Leave malema feel the tune of anc, and let him dance alone. When they fire mbeki he was happy. Dance alone stupit boy.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-04 06:30

    You can't build a nation on division. You can't develop a cohesive society by exclusion. You cannot inspire by theft. You can't gain respect by placing yourself above others. You can't engender trust by keeping secrets. The worms of decadence are deep within the ANC, and the rot shows not only on the face of the organisation, but sadly also on the face of the nation. The sooner we get rid of the disease infected political party system, the sooner the healing can begin, and the nation can start growing.

  • Scouter - 2012-04-04 07:21

    "It makes it sound like we can't think for ourselves. It is not a leadership of dwarfs around a dictator. This is an insult to many of us." This whole farce is an insult - The truth is that your regime IS corrupt, it IS incompetent and ..... it IS dangerously close to becoming a dictatorship in order to cover up the first two failings.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-04-04 07:24

    a show of yeah right and the cameleon Mathew Phosa jumps from the one idiot to the next, i was so hoping to hear that Mal lem ma has been cut of for good, but alas no joy there a waist of reporters and public"s time and resources please next time call a news conferance when you have something usefull to say.

  • kamal.naran - 2012-04-04 07:27

    the top six finally talk to the public and this is what its all about!! how about addressing the deteriorating state of our nation! what a waste of time!

      Irene - 2012-04-04 11:17

      When you look at those 'top six' one can only feel so ashamed that they are the main manne of SA. Enough to make a grown man weep.

  • Marc - 2012-04-04 07:32

    "The integrity of the ANC and it's leagues" really? that ship has sailed Mantashe.

      Scouter - 2012-04-04 07:40

      20,000 leagues under the sea, in fact.

  • bluzulu - 2012-04-04 07:39

    Nice one, Get rid of the agitators,

      Themba - 2012-04-04 10:09

      All those who are within the ANC are agitators agitating for SA to become another failed African state. Yes, get rid of the agitators - the ANC

  • skootzie - 2012-04-04 07:42

    Lots of "condemnation" and "anger" and "disapproval" and caterwauling; yet I don't see them actually DOING anything about it. The ANC is like a weak mother, quietly asking her petulant, aggressive and spoilt child to behave while the child itself is running around the room screaming and wailing and calling his mother very offensive names.

  • billidp - 2012-04-04 07:51

    The ANC is nothing but a bag of hot air and the ANCYL is a teenage delinquent offspring of theirs that they do not seem to be able to discipline or teach manners or respect to!

  • Ocean-Maosh - 2012-04-04 08:00

    ANC is losing my vote,but wil never vote for DA never ever vote for such maybe PAC can do better

      Nigel - 2012-04-04 08:18

      this is a start Ocean, don't you wonder though, were is the black led opposition, there is none & this is a big problem which has been allowed to develop by complacent voters loyal to the struggle (ing) party that has failed to make the transition from liberators to governors & are now just thieving failures.

      Thandekile Pokolo - 2012-04-04 08:34

      anc is making a mistake somewhere but i ii never vote for DA

      Melania - 2012-04-04 10:08

      There's a lot of good parties to switch to. Just do some research and we all can start living the future we wanted all along. We have to take care of our country and each other.

      Irene - 2012-04-04 10:47

      Thandekile ~ Ever heard the expression of cutting off your own nose to spite your face?

      Derek - 2012-04-04 10:59

      Have you guys who will never vote for the DA ever studied their manifesto, looked at their achievements in the WCape( notwithstanding ANC efforts to derail them), ever engaged some of the bright young 'black" south Africans in their leadership structures who are passionate about having the best for our country. Don't listen to ANC propoganda and find out for yourselves. Viva DA!

      kamal.naran - 2012-04-04 17:20

      why wont you vote DA? please dont say \its cause they a white party\. that would be very short sighted and sad..

  • Andiswa - 2012-04-04 08:01

    What a disappointment...i thought yesterday was the time we can get rid of Malema (who is has divided our country and seems hell bent to take us back to the past)...i look forward to the day when he is removed from public platforms so that he can never again make statements that are really dangerous and which our country dont need...Africa has a bad reputation when it comes to governace and if he is given any chance we are going to go back to an anarchy state..why are there no leaders within the ANC who can see that the route that they are taking is counter productive..i promise you 50 years from now they will still blame white people for failure to deliver services to the people instead of looking at themselves..its time that all South Africans (specially my black brothers and sisters) to see the real truth..

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  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-04-04 08:07

    sjoe the ancyl sure is pathetic.

  • therainmanlives - 2012-04-04 08:30

    My greatest failure in life is I have not listened as much as I have talked. That being said I feel the need to talk now. First and foremost white South Africa has to wake up. Malema is a sign of the times. His a reflection of an underlying virus of discontentment. The resources still remain in the hands of a few. Just going to Sandton alone reflects this. The ANC can ignore Mr Malema and call him all the names they want but this is the ides of March. An African Spring Revolution is coming and it will not be pretty. Now we can sit and discuss the merits of Malema and his lack thereof or we can pause and look at the horizon and we can see the dust rising or better yet look at the people in the taxis as you go home . There is frustration there and white South Africa and ANC better be ready to deal with the carnage that's coming. Economic reforms need to be put in place or else.

      Jenny - 2012-04-04 16:50

      White South Africans are in the same boat as you therainmalives. They have no political power so can do nothing about the present government. They also consist of less than 4% of the population - and shrinking as they rapidly depart to less hostile countries. Your loss, but you're too blinkered to see, aren't you? Much easier to threaten them. The carnage will you and your ilk dying of starvation once you've successfully driven all the hardworking educated citizens away, including black South Africans who want nothing to do with your savage bloodthirsty thinking.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-06 14:05

      therainmalives.... you might be right about an African Spring Revolution...but why direct it at the white generation that are not the ones responsible for what happened in the past...surely , the main cause of the black folks discontent is due to their government that has not produced the promises and let them down so very badly...are the government not the individuals that the masses should pour out their rage on. Why would the less than 4% of this nation change anything? You must realize it is all important to rid our country of the non performing ANC government....and it makes sense to vote for a party that has proved it's self.In the future I see the DA becoming a black peoples party, with a mix of the few minorities left in this country.

  • Rob - 2012-04-04 08:30

    I don't know wheher to laugh or cry, or just fly! Malema is bad news from all sorts of perspectives, Idi Amin, Mugabe etc in the same vien. On the other hand his behaviours may well reduce anc support, maybe leaving a gap for the DA to become more influential. But then again, it all looks too destructive to be good for the country and people.

  • Ryan - 2012-04-04 09:00

    The African National Cancer is a joke and unfit to govern. Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA Vote DA

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-04 09:07

      You mean sow davision in the country?

      Thandekile Pokolo - 2012-04-04 14:28

      i will never vote for DA i know where i come from and i know where i m going . DA is a wess racist party for a special in the WC yha i m leaving in wc but i learned so many things even from the premier of the wc

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-04 17:37

      Thandekile Phokolo : Please tell us more? (Say top 10)

  • Jacques - 2012-04-04 09:08

    This jungle gym ain't big enough for the both of us...

  • Bokang - 2012-04-04 09:55

    this was just another manifesto.

  • Themba - 2012-04-04 10:06

    Juju-boy must be left alone to do singlehandedly what all the opposition parties in Parliament and outside have failed to do: destroy the ANC! You go Juju!

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-04 10:16

    "It makes it sound as if we can't think for ourselves" Manthase said. Man forget the word 'can't', Ofcourse you can't because if you can, you would all take a hike.

  • - 2012-04-04 10:23

    The rats have turned on each other :)

  • Thando - 2012-04-04 10:49

    Way 2 go ANC top 6, my faith in th organisation has been restored. As for Juju, th internal processes r still continuing.........

      Irene - 2012-04-04 10:50

      Thando ~ It doesn't take much.

  • pmalungana - 2012-04-04 11:05

    This is ignorance, as people know very well how you attained your wealth, through exploitation, slavery and segregation perpertuated by the then political leadership. Opportunities were created through a sytem whic was evil in nature for you to get to where you are. Affirmative action does not exploit you guys as the money keeps coming back to due to the political settlement reached at Codesa. Willing buyer willing seller favours you as well, the list is exhaustive. All the blacks need is a fair share of your ill gotten gains. The media still represent your interests by portraying black leaders as the corrupt whilst ignoring how you got to where you today. Directly or indirectly you still enjoy the benefits of apartheid.

      Thando - 2012-04-04 11:29

      I agree 100% chief, but tht gives us an insight into why th white minority is developed more thn th blck majority........but this doesnt tell us y in our blck municipalities there is gross lack of service delivery due 2 corruption, human resource, political instability etc. In my rural town its 100% ANC led but th AG Reports disclaimers annually, NO white man 2 blame thr tho. Let us not b complacent chief nd live in th past, but rather use th past as benchmark for th developmnt of our communities.

      Derek - 2012-04-04 12:31

      If every economically active 'white' South African left and was replaced by a 'black' South African there would still be over 10million unemployed, squatter camps everywhere and lack of service delivery. Taxes collected in the last 20 years could have made a huge difference for all but incompetent cadre deployment, uncontrolled immigration (over 5mill?0 corruption and theft, flawedforeign policy and lack of leadership have stifled growth and development. Stop blaming the few whites left who work hard, support countless charities and ngo's and generally make a positive difference to the lives of so many.

  • Ishmael - 2012-04-04 11:20

    African National Comedy was playing Live on SABC tv yesterday afternoon. SA citizens, grab ur popcorn basket..more episode are still to play..

  • Catherine - 2012-04-04 11:51

    I wish they would get it right Julius is and adult of 30 and acts like a teenager

  • mdy.chauke - 2012-04-04 12:42

    The masses will judge the current leadership of the ANC on out-comes; JOBS: they have failed the youth of South Africa many are unemployed Education: Many young people &parents has to endure so much pain just to enrol their children on South African universities after 18 years in democracy. Corruption: it is evident that the country's president is leading us astray with his appointment of friend e.g Bheki Cele,Willem Heath,Menzi Simelane& Judge Ngcobo,the awarding of many tenders to the family members of the president,lack of service delivery&collapsing health system anyone can smell something is not right&can't be right by sweet talking the ANC leadership like they are doin something for the masses while the only thing they care about is tenders,lobbying for position, themselves they have done that in Polokwane. Latsly it is up to the people of South Africa to stand up&say enough is enough you're ANC is not bigger than the people of South Africa,our tax money mustn't be the solely motivator for all those public spates within the ANC & if there are individuals seeking careers not with our hard earned money.

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  • Freeman - 2012-04-05 08:41

    The majority need AA in their favour baccause they suffered 300 years of dispossession and repression by the minorities. See this page after another 300 years and we can review the situation. Phee

  • Kennedy - 2012-04-24 09:19


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