ANC taking action against 'independents'

2011-06-29 14:37

Durban - The ANC in KwaZulu-Natal will soon institute disciplinary action against members who stood as independent candidates during the May 18 local government elections, it said on Wednesday.

"We [are] doing this... because these people [independent candidates] have declared [themselves] as the opponents of the ANC," African National Congress provincial secretary Sihle Zikalala told the reporters on Wednesday.

During the elections, 38 ANC members stood as independent candidates.

Many of them were not satisfied with the ANC's process of nominating elections candidates.

Only two of them won, in Richmond and Durban, said Zikalala.

He said the disciplinary actions were important because most of the people who had stood as independent candidates still regarded themselves as ANC members.

ANC spokesperson Dr Makhosi Khoza said what they had done had a direct bearing on the ANC.

"They robbed the ANC of votes as they were competing with us," she said.

  • cocopops - 2011-06-29 14:45

    "They robbed the ANC of votes as they were competing with us," Well, the irony in this is that the ANC taught them how to rob others,corruption is so rife within the ruling party, now they want to discipline them for doing just that. I say start at the top, from Zuma all the way down.

      OZNOB - 2011-06-29 15:55

      STOP THEFT - THE GOVERNMENT HATES COMPETITION.The anc is the only party where a criminal record is a prerequisite for holding a position of authority

      Uthando - 2011-06-29 15:57

      They discipline members who are convicted of a crime & they discipline members if they dont go along with corruption. The ONLY troll who never gets the discipline is Juli-ass...strange, strange indeed...

  • MandlaSithole - 2011-06-29 14:53

    How brilliant is this? Even ANC memebers are no longer happy with the gravy train.!/

      Mnumzane - 2011-06-29 15:07

      Is this gravvy train u r refering to with the ANC only???????

      Cire - 2011-06-29 15:13

      @Mnumzane: Is there any other gravy train?

      McDaNife - 2011-06-29 16:00

      There could be a whole lot of other ANC members not happy with the ANC policies and that s the reason they are jumping of the gravy train

      Mnumzane - 2011-06-29 16:02

      @ Cire, I have a problem with ppple nly seeing gravvy train in the ANC. Gravvy train is happening everywhere. Farmers are enjoying it. In private sector there are enjoying it even in Western CApe Govt there are enjoying it. I hope now u understand my point.

      Alqualonde - 2011-06-29 16:12

      @ Cire. Seems you have forgotten the old Nats gravy train - only it was a crime to tell anyone about it.

      patrice - 2011-06-29 16:18

      Numzane - learn the difference - it is not a gravy train when you buy the gravy with your own hard earned cash - it is a gravy train when you use tax payers money to pig out.

  • jannie - 2011-06-29 14:53

    "..because these people [independent candidates] have declared [themselves] as the opponents of the ANC.." Hello?? That is called democracy. Directly from the FREEDOM CHARTER: "Every man and woman shall have the right to vote for and to stand as a candidate for all bodies which make laws; All people shall be entitled to take part in the administration of the country; The rights of the people shall be the same, regardless of race, colour or sex; All bodies of minority rule, advisory boards, councils and authorities, shall be replaced by democratic organs of self-government."

      Mnumzane - 2011-06-29 15:06

      Yes it is called Democracy also what the ANC is doing. It within its constitution that is democratic to discipline its memmbers not non members like yourself.

      LJ Graey - 2011-06-29 15:46

      Mnumzane, did it ever occur to you that it is unconstitutional for any organisation, even the ANC, to limit the rights of its members? Therefore laying any kind of charge against them for simply exercising their democratic right would be equally unconstitutional. On the other hand I do think the IEC should charge them with election fraud because they posed as independent candidates while in reality representing the ANC. If any votes were indeed "stolen" it would have been from people who in fact did not want to vote for the ANC but unknowingly did so by voting for these so called "independents".

      Mnumzane - 2011-06-29 16:06

      @ Ratexx (kudla kwamagundane)I have a problem with someone who doesnot know me calling me stupid. It was going to be better if u just differed with me in ur argument other than playing the man. I might be stupid but so far have not displayed it better than you. @ LJ Graey, it is common that indepenedents candidates must be pple who are indepenedent or else you need to resign immediately to your party before you stand as an independent. That is common sense except if you look at it with your university degree.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-30 15:56

      Mnumzane the anc's version of democracy and the rest of the civilised world's version of democracy are 2 different things altogether.

  • sheep - 2011-06-29 15:14

    we are asking for maximum sentence for this ill-discipline lunatics.

      Deeteem - 2011-06-29 15:29

      And what would that be ? A better paid job !!

      ratex - 2011-06-29 15:30

      baaahha baaaahaa net soos a dom skaap. We want a mximum sentence for your cabinet of criminals. So while you are at it send the other 353 convicted cANCer ministers and their cadres to jail at the same time. Yes twit some of your beloved govt employees are all convicted criminals with criminal records.

      Ogre - 2011-06-29 16:00

      Once again the stipulations in the constitution do not apply to the ANC and the loyal followers. As I said before, they keep on changing the rules as the goals pile up against them.

  • Mad man - 2011-06-29 15:20

    Taurusaurus@ Boy, give yourself time to be able to analyse politics - don`t behave like a religious bigot. It looks apartheid has damaged your brain cells as a beneficiary

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-06-29 15:27

    Its an internal matter

      Ogre - 2011-06-29 16:02

      So what!!! It is still strictly against the stipulations of the constitution. How easily it is forgotten when it does not suit you.

      thinker - 2011-06-30 00:06

      Then deal with it, without press statements!!!

  • Stanley Black - 2011-06-29 15:29

    As a South African this is an issue that I feel is not given the attention it should. It need everyday South Africans to formulate opinions on it and for those opinions to be debated and commented on as a society. is somewhere you can do all that, go check it our submitting and commenting is easy and requires no registration.

  • biskit - 2011-06-29 15:29

    disciplinary action for saying i dont agree with corruption

  • Ann - 2011-06-29 15:32

    I thought SA is supposed to be a democracy. Clearly the "independents" no longer believed in what was being shoved down their throats. The ANC motto sounds more like the model T Ford - "you can have any colour you want, so long as it's black!" Do not question, or think for yourself - we are quite capable of telling you how, when, where, what and why AND you will like it!

      Alqualonde - 2011-06-29 16:15

      Being a member of a party and standing against them is pretty abusive of democracy. I am on the side of the independents but they should nail their colours to the mast properly and resign from an organisation they are now opposing.

  • SenseSeeker - 2011-06-29 15:33

    The Bloody Agents....

  • SenseSeeker - 2011-06-29 15:34

    M@lema will surely take their land for this......

  • G-spotWizard - 2011-06-29 15:44

    Yes, punish them severely and the books and kitchen sink to them. They are bloody agents who seek to create division in the Ranks of the ANC and stop to ANC from ruling until the good Lord comes back.

  • pigdawg - 2011-06-29 15:47

    The ANC are starting to sound very Zanu PF to me...

      Felix - 2011-06-29 15:56

      Who do you think is sponsoring our belothed, fat, juju? 10 cows from Zim and the zimbos can't even get a loaf of bread from their leaders...

  • Sarcastic - 2011-06-29 16:12

    I thought it was the right of the electorate to make their own decisions, especially when one has been disillusioned. Most would call that Democracy.

  • ditshegoseraga - 2011-06-29 16:17

    Jos. Nononooo!! comrades, before we point a finger at other comrades lets make sure that our house is in order less we will be bitterly exposed. JZ himself indicated that the ANC acknowledges that there were some unhappiness with the process and names.

      Uthando - 2011-06-29 16:53

      "less we will be bitterly exposed"... Hello??! Earth to ditshegoseraga!! ANC has looooong been exposed.

  • Naartjie - 2011-06-29 18:51

    Me thinks this is a case of, "If you are not with us then you must be agaist us". Mr Sihle Zikalala why aren't you looking at why "these people have declared [themselves] as the opponents of the ANC". It could just be that the ANC is the problem.

  • ockert.kruger - 2011-06-29 19:11

    Fact is that you can not be part of an organisation and oppose it as an independant at the same time. Quit the organisation and then oppose it. Any organisation will dissipline (and dismiss) a member working against it in this way.

  • StBad - 2011-06-30 15:15

    Isn't this something that Mugabe would do? Bring candidates to bear from taking votes away- democracy???????

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