ANC woos white Afrikaans speakers

2012-05-06 16:15

Johannesburg - The ANC has summoned a group of opinion formers to brainstorm ways to woo white Afrikaans speakers.

A team of high-ranking leaders from the party is scheduled to meet the group of about 70 white and coloured Afrikaans speaking academics, church leaders and representatives from cultural organisations in a closed meeting on Tuesday, May 8.

The meeting will be the start of a process to find out why white Afrikaans speakers feel alienated from government processes and the ruling party.

Although the ANC isn’t selling its Afrikaans Dialogue Summit as a vote-buying exercise, there has been concern about the party bleeding support in minority areas.

Some party bosses have blamed this on former ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema’s rhetoric, which was sometimes viewed as bordering on racial discrimination.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe, treasurer general Mathews Phosa, spokesperson Jackson Mthembu, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa and Agriculture Minister Tina Joemat-Pettersson are among the leaders expected to meet the group.

Plans for the summit were mooted after the ANC’s special projects co-ordinators in Mantashe’s office, Daryl Swanepoel and Renier Schoeman, met with three academics in Luthuli House in January as part of the party’s outreach initiative.

The academics were University of Johannesburg politics lecturers Piet Croucamp and Albert Venter, and University of Stellenbosch politics lecturer Willie Breytenbach.

Harsh criticism

The ANC presented the details of this meeting at its national executive committee (NEC) meeting in March and submitted a report in which the academics said there was a willingness among Afrikaans speakers to co-operate with the ruling party.

But they also had harsh criticism, saying:

» There’s a perception that the ANC is “directionless in leadership and a party of contending factions”;

» The party is no longer “the well-disciplined party of the struggle” and many of its public representatives prioritised their careers and business interests ahead of the people;

» Pronouncements by “youthful hotheads” in the ANC could reflect sentiments that may become policy if another faction took control of the party;

» Careless and populist rhetoric by senior ANC or government leaders against the courts, the Public Protector and the Constitution are evidence that the ANC is “fickle regarding these institutions”;

» The ANC makes good policies but is unable to implement them because of disagreements within the alliance; and

» There is “a general alienation in the white Afrikaans community” from the ANC.

They suggested the ANC convince the state to expand “its welfare network as well as affirmative action on a class basis [rather than race]” to help lure “lower-middle class white Afrikaans South Africans” towards the ANC.

They added that the “ideological distance” between white Afrikaans speakers and the ANC “is not as wide as some would like to believe”.

Mthembu confirmed that the party had been in talks with white Afrikaans speakers who raised “many issues”, but he said it was too early to give details.

“We’ll only be able to make people feel that they belong if we listen to them,” he said.


Croucamp said the research - planned for the next four months - would be about getting the ANC and minority groups talking so they could participate in early policy discussions, which might help lessen feelings of alienation.

“We must be careful not to think that it is Julius Malema alone causing this [the alienation].”

It is understood that the ANC wants to use some of the input from this outreach meeting at next month’s policy conference.

Landsberg said his participation in this initiative would not be to represent a minority group, but rather to give his views.

He said it was not only whites and coloureds who feel alienation. “Many black communities also feel alienated from the ANC,” he said.

  • Kwajo.m - 2012-05-06 10:10

    No comment

      renaldogouws - 2012-05-06 16:26

      Action Speaks louder than words... that is how you will get our attention.

      Rob - 2012-05-06 16:30 broer, sien jou @ the next meeting.

      Glyn - 2012-05-06 16:31

      The anc are scraping the barrel! Any Afrikaner who votes anc is truly idiotic (or getting paid a fortune).

      Jacobus - 2012-05-06 16:33

      They will get NOTHING from the Afrikaans community. Guaranteed. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Vakol.

      Rob - 2012-05-06 16:40

      Oh ok. I'm English & not invited. Life sucks !

      Mattewis - 2012-05-06 16:57

      @renaldo You said it! The blatant racism of so-called BEE, the genocide of white farmers, bad treatment of white people by law-enforcement personnel, lack of response to Malema's hate speach toward white people (he wasn't removed from the ANCYL for that!), and the list can go on! I view the ANC as corrupt & incompetent from the very top right down to the lowest ranking member! If one of their members should dare make a stand for what is right, they are quickly removed thus keeping the structure homogeneously corrupt! It will take some action for their side to woo me, and if it doesn't start with the removal of references to ANY FORM of race (including "PDI") from all facets of legislation, I'll tell them what they can do with their "wooing"! The removal of JZ is another requirement. There is no way I'll respect a polygamist as leader of a nation! It's not part of my culture, I find it deplorable & degrading toward women, and I can't see how you can "woo" it away!

      Aaron - 2012-05-06 17:04

      Here is a link to a video of the State President of South Africa singing shoot the boer and exhorting his cabinet to do the same, less than six months ago in January 2012 at the ANC's conference: You have to question the agenda of these people that they seem concerned and mystified that Afrikaners are feeling threatened. They cannot possibly be so stupid that they don't get it, so one wonders what there true aim is, because it sure as nuts isn't reconciliation while you have a sitting president calling for a minority group to be shot.

      Rob - 2012-05-06 17:06

      @ Mattewis. So well said. Thank you. A thousand thumbs up and a Case of Bells for you !

      Burtfred - 2012-05-06 17:20

      "Afrikaners" meeting with Gwede Mantashe, Mathews Phosa, Jackson Mthembu, Nathi Mthethwa and Tina Joemat-Pettersson would be like the mad-hatters tea party. Except the mad-hatter had more common sense than the entire ANC NEC combined.

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-06 17:58

      ANC losing alot of voters - do they ever think we would wanna vote for corruption- bunch of plonkers!

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-06 17:59

      @ Tsotsi Dur - don't be a P-L-O-N-K-E-R! as they say in England. You go back to Zim now...

      mariuskowie - 2012-05-06 18:05 Now they are trying to "woo" white Afrikaans speakers.

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-06 18:19

      ok so deport us already what the f are you waiting for dimwit

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:28

      Tsotsi you dimwit people can only be deported to the country of their birth. No doubt you are proposing ethnic cleansing you racist fool. As for the Afrikaners the ANC is looking for support from the group that overwhelmingly supported the NP Govt. They obviously feel is is a natural fit as neither the ANC nor the NP seek or sought true democracy.

      Allen - 2012-05-06 18:48

      The only Afrikaners who vote for the ANC are those on the take(Niehaus & Kortbroek)and the "hensoppers" like those who fought on the side of the British when their farms were threatened. Any Afrikaaner who votes for the ANC can therefore be classified as 'n Verraaier,hensopper joiner!

      Press - 2012-05-06 19:01

      But is this "white Afrikaans speakers" thing not racial profiling - soon they will want to speak to "coloured Afrikaans speakers" or "black Afrikaans speakers", etc. Where will it all end - soon, heaven forbid, the ANC will be trying to speak to "African Afrikaans speakers" - now who would have thought of that ?

      Gieljam - 2012-05-06 19:13

      Every one has a prize but even this seems nearly to hi to pay ,,However if the deposit $ not R to the tune of 50 million tomorrow in my bank account Ill think of it for a while ..........where upon on declining the offer will settle for a golden hand shake of R50 million so they will score all the way..

      Godfrey - 2012-05-06 19:30

      LOL Is this a sign of desperation???? or and acknowedgement that the DA is making in-roads in the black communities.

      Smell - 2012-05-06 20:00

      Tsotsi-, the very fact that active AA is required to promote and ensure BEE, suggests that "chasing away the Whites", would largely fail to provide economic freedom. And I do support a reasonable degree of AA and BEE. Your Facebook picture reflect on yourself. It would be good if more Afrikaners could be drawn into the ANC. But for that to happen, the ANC would have to start regarding the Afrikaners as Africans - it would cost nothing and would have huge benefits: 1. Try and at least look like you are taking the horrible crime rate seriously, including the farm murders. 2. Hang a copy of "Kill the Boer" on the wall of the ANC history museum, and stop singing it at official gatherings. 3. Do not just respond in the newspapers when one deranged Afrikaner go on a shooting rampage every 5 years or so - also respond to the daily carnage committed by Africans. 4. Go ahead with history based name changes, but with a modicum of restraint. Do not completely eradicate the Afrikaner footprint, because it is very real and not all negative. 5. Maintain one state supported Afrikaans University - it would accurately reflect the demographics of this country. (e.g. Stellenbosch was the original, and is located in an area where Afrikaans is spoken by the majority)) 6. Muzzle members of your party making racist comments towards Whites. Malema went unchallenged for years while making unbelievably racist comments before he was expelled, having done untold damage to race relations.

      Muisie - 2012-05-07 07:34

      They want to use this information to manipulate Afrikaans speakers and weave more lies for the run-up to the elections. Unfortunately the 'horse has bolted' long ago....

      nasheenar - 2012-05-07 07:51

      @Aaron they really are that stupid.

      Merven - 2012-05-07 08:17

      Nice try ANC, but I will never vote for a racist party like the ANC.

      Denise - 2012-05-07 09:33

      Since 1994 the Afrikaans community do not stand accused in any manner whatsoever of any subversive, confrontational or antagonistic agenda against the new black order in SA. Nor do they in any way stand accused of any atrocities committed against blacks that innocent, unarmed, white Afrikaners are subjected to daily by blacks. All the Afrikaans people have done is get on with their lives and as best they can in a country in which all racial conflict was supposed to have ended. Afrikaans people have gone to every length that could reasonably be expected of them to co-exist with their black antagonists in a spirit of mutual progress and benefit for the entire country. In reciprocation, blacks have maintained a backlash against white Afrikaner Boer farmers, the brutality, range and depth of which is unparalleled in the history of racial conflict. The ANC regime has responded by marginalizing, disenfranchising, dispossessing and disarming them in every diabolical way conceivable, while every step of the way systematically and brutally slaughtering the Afrikaner/Boer farmers on a scale and with a savagery that the so-called “evils” of Apartheid could not even be remotely compared. It has been an orgy of racially agitated bloodletting, the absolute barbarity of which is notched up with each subsequent incident exposing the black psyche as the most diabolically evil, cruel and inhuman and against which very few atrocities in history can compare.

  • HerbySun - 2012-05-06 11:35

    Whatever happened to Tutu and Mandela's (fake) 'Rainbow Nation'?

      Adam - 2012-05-06 16:38

      The anc stole the pot of gold.

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-05-06 17:06

      @adam. and the pot!

      Dawood - 2012-05-06 17:57

      Yes , the ANC stole about 6% of the gold and the empty pot. The rest of the gold is in the hands of big business whom still runs this countries economy from Rosebank,Sandton and Bedfordview(this wealth benefits foreign thieves).The economy still belongs to them.ECONOMIC FREEDOM for the majority of our population(black & white) is still not a reality.NATIONALISE NOW, but allow honest black & white ppl to run the economy of our country. Too much of the proceeds of our minerals goes enriching the WEST and ISRAEL( a few who control the US and world economy).Dont allow many of the ANC or other party politicians to even get their fingers in the pot, cos most of these thieves are corrupt.And please introduce the death penalty for political and big business thieves who are raping our country. Subsidise our farmers and protect them cos they are the ones who feed the nation.Although i'm an ANC supporter,its sad to see how many of this parties thieves are filling their pockets at the expense of the poor and taxpayers.But there are also many ANC politicians who are hard working and honest citizens.NATIONALISATION MUST benefit SOUTH AFRICANS BLACK AND WHITE

      Grace - 2012-05-06 17:59

      Adam is right.. The stole the pot of gold, painted the rainbow black and renamed it a rainBEE.

      mariuskowie - 2012-05-06 18:16

      @Dawood The ANC politicians are raping our beautiful country. They are keeping meaningful education away from the masses. The big, evil corporate world you are targeting as the cause of poverty in SA is in deep shiete because they simply cannot obtain quality labor out of the SA labor force any more. This spiral of no education, no work is solely on the shoulders of the current regime. Economic freedom is the blindfold that shields the reality from yourself and others suffering from similar delusions. The ANC have proven their economic incompetence repetitively and vividly. Now you want to nationalise and give the same people the responsibility of nationalised "economic freedom" That is simply insane and economic suicide.

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:31

      Herbysun, white is the blend of all the colours in the rainbow and black is the abscence of light hence no rainbow. Had I been the ANC of the 1990s I would have avoided that analogy like the plague.

      Press - 2012-05-06 19:05

      @Tsotsi-Dur - hey mate arent your rantings a bit unconstitutional - that the thing that has been around since 1996 ???? Just saying - just now you get caught for treason mate - be careful.

      Dawood - 2012-05-06 21:17

      dawood or dagwood----tienie or apie , still the same thing

      raath - 2012-05-07 08:28

      @Dawood that must be the lamest comeback ever. I think I may even have lost the feeling in my legs.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 11:53

      It never materialized. That Rainbow nation was a catchy phrase that looked nice in the news, nothing more.

  • kwaaito - 2012-05-06 13:19

    Why must it always be us who extend an olive branch?

      Rob - 2012-05-06 16:26

      Is that a trick question ?

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-06 16:29

      why, allow me to enlighten you, who was singing one bullet one white, who was singing kill the boer, you people carry on like that and expect us to vote for you, you want to make up, the balls in your court but we will have conditions of our own, clean this country up, get rid of the criminals, clean up the corruption and then we will talk, I do not enjoy seeing our strrets and parks looking like a garbage pit, got it yet

      Glyn - 2012-05-06 16:33

      Because you are looking for votes! The anc stuffed up and are now desperate for votes, even from the very people who voted for apartheid!

      Sannie - 2012-05-06 16:52

      @Ian, before the singing of these songs you have never wanted to be part of RSA.

      Aaron - 2012-05-06 17:05

      Olive branch? Is that what you call singing shoot the boer?

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-05-06 17:09

      Because your bunch of AintSee thieves have stolen all the OLIVE trees from the once white farmers.

      Nigel - 2012-05-06 17:23

      Because you need votes, maybe?

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-06 18:21

      @sannie, where the f did i say that, please supply me with a link where i said that, freaking retarded loser

      mariuskowie - 2012-05-06 18:22 Is this the olive branch you are talking about?

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-06 18:23

      another thing sannie, i did my national service, i did my bit for this country what have you done for this country????????????????

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:33

      Because the whites have already done so so by relinquishing power and turning the country into an African democracy.

      Press - 2012-05-06 19:08

      @Tsotsi-dur - hey mate here you go again mate - what battlefield mate ? You not referring to the one where the American Banks pulled their loans that scuttled the apartheid system mate ???

      Sean - 2012-05-06 19:51

      @kwaaito - You can take your olive branch and shove it where the sun don`t shine - Maybe you and the ANC should rather try to ``grow a brain`` , because the lack of intelligence and your primitive way of thinking is stuffing up this country big time !!1

      Press - 2012-05-06 21:43

      C'mon - who the hell took Tsotsi-Dur's comment away - whatever happened to freedom of speech ?????

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-07 02:58

      @gerald, thats right, I wouldnt do it for this thing you call a defence force , hell this stuff up couldnt defend an attack of 2 specks of dust ret alone a full invasion, the main thing is I like countless others did what we were asked to do, what were you doing besides crapping your diapers, please do tell us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-07 09:36

      I'm 47 gerald, how old are you, 12 by the sounds of it seeing you seem to enjoy keeping a bunch of retarded uneducated criminals in power so they can f the country up even more

      dewalds3 - 2012-05-07 09:52

      Sorry about us not jumping for the olive branch. You see - there was this guy called Dingaan...

      Steve - 2012-05-07 10:01

      @Gerald. In the spirit of your attempt to engage meaningful dialogue, I would like to point out to you that during those days, it was do your military service, or go to jail Not everyone was happy to go to the army. In fact, there were many that hated being there. There were those that loved it. For the majority, it was something where most young men had no option. One really good thing that came out of it though, was that it taught a young man what dicipline and respect is, something the youth of today has no idea of.

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-07 10:22


      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-07 10:44

      no gerald you are pathetic, any retard who would want to keep a bunch of thieving criminals in power is beyond pathetic, more like retarded but hey its your vote, get lost

      ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-07 10:57

      ok fat boy follower, goodbye

      mariuskowie - 2012-05-07 11:25

      @Gerald Do you even realise how racist your comments are? "classical of white mentality at large" Sheesh dude.......

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 11:54

      What olive branch?.

      Gieljam - 2012-05-07 11:58

      Who gave you the OLIVE TREE?

  • Sonja - 2012-05-06 16:24

    More proof that the cANCer are a fake party. Try seeking help to stop yourselves from thieving and corrupting first. Then educate yourselves on how to govern a country and then woo the Afrikaans....once again, EPIC FAILURE!

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 18:00

      @tsotsi - Your evil nickname suggests exactly what gutter trash you are! Now go and rape, steal, murder, lie and do everything else criminal! Clearly it gives you satisfaction! SAVAGE!

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-06 18:00

      @ Tsotsi- voetsek jou gemors

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-06 18:01

      Look at your ANCYL president- he calls himself a condom Bwhahaahaha

      Glyn - 2012-05-06 18:12

      Vote DA!

      mariuskowie - 2012-05-06 18:25

      Tsotsi-Dur - RACIST!!!!

      Sonja - 2012-05-06 18:33

      Tsotsi infant child. Deport yourself you rubbish. (is what you are covered in)

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:38

      Tsotsi is a racist fool but the ANC only took up where the NP left off. Why else could "kortbroek" van Schalkwyk have merged the NP into the ANC. As a white with a liberal outlook on life and a libertine outlook on politics, I have been a second class citizen in South Africa ever since I came here in 1968, I now understand why my parents went into exile in 1948.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 18:55

      This Effing Tsotsi "sub species, doesnt even know who the "Black Sash" were, or the Progressive Federal Party, or that Helen Suzman was jailed, and she met the most Honorable Nelson Mandela, during his incarceration! No again I tell you you gutter snipe! Go do what Tsotsi's do! Rape 6 year old's, murder 87 year old's and ah........what Tsoti's do!

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 18:57

      @Kevin - Stop whining! Help change it!

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-06 20:07

      Tsotsi must have hit the road to go visit his friend Malema and plan how they gonna take over the world after their failed atempts. LOL

      dylanswanie - 2012-05-07 07:53

      @ Tsotsi, no problem, pay for my ticket out of here ill be gone in a flash.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 11:59

      Surely by now everyone realize Tsotsi is a troll. Ignore the little jerk and don't make his day by wasting your time replying to him.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:03

      Kevin, there waa no exile in 1948. What are you doing here if you have grown up somewhere else?. Why stay somewhere if you feel like a second hand citizen?. Kortbroek is and was an opportunist that looks after number one, himself first and fore most. Those that went with him had sunstroke.

  • kim.buren - 2012-05-06 16:25

    When the ANC actually look at the real wellbeing of this country, will they get the support they want. Till then, it is just words and ink on paper.

      johncarlos.biza - 2012-05-07 01:11

      Agreed. Run the country well and you will get support from most

  • Rob - 2012-05-06 16:28

    No Ja !!!! Dit sal die dag wees !

  • Shannon - 2012-05-06 16:29

    I got a good idea... commit yourselves to good governance, get rid of corruption and tenders and jobs for pals, actually look after the poor rather than just talking about it and revitalise the ANC as a party for all South Africans, rather than a vehicle for enrichment of a few at the loss for the many - and all the citizens will vote for you. Simple. No need for talk shops on how to woo voters!

      Rob - 2012-05-06 16:35

      Hey ! With you on THAT one Shannon.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 16:51

      Straight up! Well for most of us on here anyway! Well said!

      Riaan - 2012-05-06 20:46

      Tsotsi-doos You need a brain, troll.

      George - 2012-05-06 20:51

      Talk shops are what passes for work in the cANCer society.

  • brainbowgold - 2012-05-06 16:29

    This is simply cheap politicking. Race, culture, creed, sex, language, whatever..... should have nothing to do with policy, efficiency and effective governance - factors that really attract votes.

      Sonja - 2012-05-06 18:34

      Tsotsi - TROLL

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 18:43

      What is this Tsotsi thing on about? Shouldn't he be out and about doing the things that tsotsi's do? Raping, stealing, lying, murdering? Go away you halfwit! If you had one more brain cell, you would bark!!!

  • Glyn - 2012-05-06 16:29

    Blame the anc vote losses on bad policies, racist AA and BEE and general discrimination against White, Coloured and Indian voters as well as corruption, crooked politicians and the general collapse of government services such as the Police, Education Military and Medical services. Vote DA, there is no other sensible option.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 16:34

      Glyn, In this country Blacks are; Africans Coloureds Indians Chinese All get the same points,

      Burtfred - 2012-05-06 17:08

      Tamaranui - you need to get out more often. Cloureds, Indians and Chinese may very well get the same "points", but they don't get the jobs or the tenders. They are not black enough.

      Glyn - 2012-05-06 18:15

      @ Tamaranui - Tell that to the Coloureds, Indians Chinese! They are only Black at election time!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 18:18

      I see first hand daily in my occupation, contracts being awarded to all Cultures by a state enterprise, Glyn.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 18:21

      Glyn, BEE and AA are installed to fast track the socioeconomic leveling of RSA. Unfortunately this Generation will take the brunt of the new rules however as RSA's I think we are best suited to complete this task to ensure future generations don't have to put up with it.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:09

      Tamaranui the coloureds and indians I know would rather drown themselves than being labeled black. The chinese, did apply to be reclassified black, to receive lucrative BEE freebies. Take that away from them and tomorrow they will be in court to be reclassified white again. Besides, wasn't one of the reasons we struggled for freedom to get away from racial classification?. This goverment is as racist as the previous one, and that is a fact.

  • Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 16:32

    Absurdly ridiculous notion,

  • desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 16:38

    If the ANC were an HONEST, LAW ABIDING, NON CRIMINAL, THIEVING (from their own people), party, there would be no reason why whites would note vote for them as well! Its because they are so crooked in EVERYTHING they do!!!! So waste your energy elsewhere (if thats possible!). Ultimately, one should vote for whats good for the nation, NOT whats good for the fat cats!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 16:43

      What's the alternative , the DA......No thanks, that be a step backwards. The DA double standards agenda will be filed away with the other Historical parties that no longer exist.....

      Adam - 2012-05-06 16:47

      How can whites vote for a party that discriminates against them?. They are losing their old voters and are now looking for new. VIVA DA, anc is cracking.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 16:56

      @ Tamaranui - All these years, you still cant get over yourself. You were more than likely not even born! Are you seriously happy with whats happening to the majority of this countries population????!!!! You clearly dont give a F*K about "THE PEOPLE", as you all say. GO back to Stanford! Hopefully, it's Stanford in the Western Cape, where I live! I'd love to have a chat with you! Shouldn't take longer than 20 seconds!

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 16:59

      Bwahaha, on Tamaranui's Facebook Profile! High School - Twilite High! Figures!!!

      Nigel - 2012-05-06 17:32

      @Tamatanui, why is it that you think there is no strong Black led opposition to the ANC, at least the DA have the guts & capability to be a decent opposition, why do you Blacks complain about the DA not being Black enough but you do nothing to form an opposition

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 17:50

      @ Nigel, Nigel , I returned to RSA after 13 years in Auckland and this country has any generations to go before Colour is not the first implication to a Human Being's value. I myself is questioning bringing up my kids in this environment.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 17:51

      Again at "T". Read my previous comments. There are NO reasons whatsoever, why whites would not vote for them. It's simple! Good, Honest, Governance! Something they are ABSOLUTELY NOT! STOP delving in the past, and move on dude!!!! There are millions of non black people in this country that were against Apartheid and still are, but that does not make us want to be wooed by the ANC! Just about every single headline, is some hideous crime, and cANCer! You seem well read and written, why cant you just be honest with yourself! Come on! FFS! Yawn already!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 17:58

      @ D, Yep mate, I totally agree. I brought my skills to a state enterprise. I am at the coalface of RSA Infrastructure and I can assure you that we are definitely moving forward. I know I use this alot however these figures cannot be denied as these are Internationally produced figures, In 1994 our GDP was 111 US Billion,It took us 8 years to recover from the massive disinvestment in RSA just before 1994 as our GDP in 2002 was 116 US Billion. In the eight years from 2002 to 2010 our GDP stood at 363 US Billion, That's tripled in eight years whilst the west suffered two recessions. Currently it is above 400 US Billion. These are the facts. Eventually we will have a better society like the Kiwis.

      Glyn - 2012-05-06 18:24

      The anc is desperate! Ha! Ha! Vote DA! Give the anc a heck of a fright, vote DA!

      Rob - 2012-05-06 18:33

      Better society than the Kiwis ????? DONT get me started !!!!! You, like your rulers are living in la, la land ! You okes could'nt run a spaza shop !

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 18:34

      @T - One last comment and Im outta here! Its pointless! All those fantastic figures you quote! Why that for about 25 km's on the N2 between Somerset West and Cape Town and there just SHED!!!! SHANTIES!!! BOXES!!!! Where is that HUGE GDP over the last 18 years going?????? Dont answer! We all know!

      phonis9 - 2012-05-06 20:26

      @ tamaranui,wake up where is the country moving to,to poverty and the rape capital of the world,i would also like to talk to u face to and desertratbkf can share those 20 secs.

      Adam - 2012-05-06 21:00

      Tamaranui , have a look at our GDP in terms of AUD, and you get a totally different picture. What happened to Bluezulu?

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 21:04

      @phonis9 _ Thank you! Thank you! So between us, 10 seconds each will be more than enough without getting bored! 20 secs is a looooooong time man! I was being generous!

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-05-07 11:09

      Tamaranui (Maori name?) - the figures you quote may be correct, but to put it into perspective. In 2000 SA had a GDP which was 40% of the GDP of the entire Sub-Saharan Africa. It is currently at 30%. so the growth rate was actually slower than the rest of the region, which is a result of a number of factors. Including deteriorating infrastructure in comparison to the rest of the region, lack of quality education, corruption...

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:13

      Tamaranui, so the DA being too white for you isn't an alternative, but yet the ANC, completley black, is good enough for us whites?. Why would we want to commit political suicide?.

  • Piet - 2012-05-06 16:41

    Sorry ANC. We are taught the difference between right and wrong. We are also taught that your actions will cause a reaction. If the reaction is not what you have hoped for we are taught that you must accept the punishment of the decision that you have made. You on the othr hand does not care about the reactions of your decisions. You are alsoto chicken to stand up to anything that you have might done wrong. You are morraly corrupt. Jammer ne!

      Sannie - 2012-05-06 16:55

      So you think the evil system of apartheid was fine.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 19:38

      @Tsotsi - CLEARLY, the DUR, stands fir "Ah Durr!" Dimwit!

      phonis9 - 2012-05-06 20:34

      @ piet i totaly agree with u .

  • Gareth - 2012-05-06 16:49

    Not afrikaans, but I can tell you what the problem is. BEE, all those policies making impossible to find work, poor governance, and corruption have made them vote for other parties. The ANC has never been equal in it's leadership either. If they really want to woo the afrikaners, clean up house and treat everyone equally, and people will look at them differently. The difference between Mandela's ANC and this ANC is vast, I'm sure Mandela's ANC would get a lot more votes, would have gotten mine.

      Gareth - 2012-05-06 17:02

      And how would reversing apartheid help the country?

      Jason - 2012-05-06 17:14

      There is corruption in all government , even the national party was corrupt but the percentage of corruption in the ANC is just way too high. I think AA and BEE was needed initially, the young whites that couldn't get jobs here made plans by going overseas or starting there own business. However I think AA and BEE policies should be coming to a end now, the kids finishing off school this year and last weren't even born when the ANC took over.

      Gareth - 2012-05-06 17:19

      I can't think of a party that isn't corrupt, ANC is just blatantly obvious about it. BEE and AA was needed initially, but now when jobs are so few, and people are getting education, it should be removed and jobs be given on qualification. Not everyone can afford to go overseas to work!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 17:27

      2 gareth, Where there is a will there is a way, BEE and AA are installed to fast track the socioeconomic leveling of RSA. Unfortunately this Generation will take the brunt of the new rules however as RSA's I think we are best suited to complete this task to ensure future generations don't have to put up with it.

      Sean - 2012-05-06 19:55

      @Sannie - You not going to catch up !! African Leaders do not like it when the masses are educated !!

      phonis9 - 2012-05-06 20:37

      fully Gareth right on.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-05-06 16:50

    "We’ll only be able to make people feel that they belong if we listen to them" There's your answer right there. The nation is begging, pleading, demanding that you stop the rot, crime and violence and start to deliver on 18yrs of promises. You say you listen but you sure as hell aren't doing much except have investigations, commissions of enquiry and now, yay, brainstorming sessions. Read a newspaper a day just for a week - the answers are all there.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 17:17

      Again! Another "RIGHT ON!" comment. How difficult can it be?????

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-06 17:25

      Unfortunately bureaucracies always look for bureaucratic ways to solve the simplest of problems, the world over. From spending gazillions to find a ball point pen that will work in outer space to getting potholes fixed free of charge. As a nation, we're famous around the world for innovative solutions, our can-do attitude but initiative & innovation has been smothered to death. Whilst it is good to brainstorm and talk, the failure always always always is in implementation. Or if they don't like the answers, bury it in a report and make sure we never find out what it said.

      Tsotsi-Dur - 2012-05-06 18:34

      What about our land? #Power to the people

      Sean - 2012-05-06 19:56

      @Tsotsi-Dur - What land ? You mean the land you stole from the khoisan ? Suppose woodwork is the only subject you maybe passed !

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 20:12

      @Sean _ Spot on!!! Have to admit though. Its fun having halfwits like Tsotsi, the vermin, on here! Makes it quiet enlightening! Always up for a laugh!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:27

      Tamaranui, it is kupu hangai here. Yes, I too lived in New Zealand, and in many other countries. Come to think of it, I am getting itchy feet again.

  • mart.botha - 2012-05-06 16:50

    White South Africans will not support the ANC just on the basis that the ANC treats black South African so poorly. The ANC (read Government) are spending billions of this country's resources without much of this filtering through to where it is needed most. They have turned this country into a welfare state and have promised even more of the same by flirting with nationalisation, impregnating the minds of the vulnerable with expectations of 'sharing' the wealth with them. This makes them down and out liars. Now if this is how the 'liberators' treat those they swore to serve, why do you think that any thinking white would expect the 'feline aids riddled leopard' to change it's spots. I also laugh at the, and I quote "Johannesburg - The ANC has summoned a group of opinion formers to brainstorm ways to woo white Afrikaans speakers. A team of high-ranking leaders from the party is scheduled to meet the group of about 70 white and coloured Afrikaans speaking academics, church leaders and representatives from cultural organisations in a closed meeting on Tuesday, May 8. Unquote. When they say 'a team of high ranking leaders from the party.....' you just know that the bar is not set very high, their records speak for thmselves .....all hot air and blowing smoke up your ass.'

      Jason - 2012-05-06 17:23

      I have to admit, Tamaranui you made a good point although Mart might of been a DA supporter in the past so can't judge. I personally have never voted before but now that I am living in the Western Cape and see how well this place is run compared to the rest of the country I have to say the DA does a great job. I actually think the perfect situation for this country would be to have the ANC win the national elections with the DA running all the provinces. It would be a good compromise and both parties would hopefully keep each other on the straight and narrow.

      Rob - 2012-05-06 18:54

      Todays South Africa is what so many were afraid would happen. No wonder they voted NP.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 19:28

      Don't be afraid Rob,

      phonis9 - 2012-05-06 20:45

      @tamaranui jees dude do u know that it is 2012?

      Dee - 2012-05-07 03:08

      Tamaranui - I fully share Mart's objection to daily seeing, sincerely feeling for and trying to render personal help to people mired in poverty - whilst at the same time being subjected to Blue Light Brigades, lack of finances for e.g. Child Welfare; mismanagement / misappropriation of even Lotto funds; endemic corruption and daily scandlous uncovering of ever more rampant self serving politicians - who seldom are brought to book - or if so, by a slow tortuous process and then they retain full pay and perks - or are given a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card; watching their nauseatingly lavish weddings on Top Billing - and ever wondering why am I sponsoring food and books and clothing and time and care when e.g. Zuma spends R12 500 on ONE BIRTHDAY CAKE??? And that my dear, is why the ANC is such a HUGE disappointment to many 'whites' who had such hope for something better than the bad old days of the Nat's.Frankly after 18years of hope - the ANC govt now DISGUSTS me.

  • Bongeka - 2012-05-06 16:59

    Why ask too many questions?Just go there and find out what's the meeting all about,ask questions,raise conerns and get over with it.They won't and can't force you to do or listen to something you don't like. And when you go there,just keep your head up and be prepared to take the bull by it's horn.You won't be doing anything wrong by raising questions and concerns but deffending our democracy.Maybe white folks might not take my advice because I happen to belong to this so called black group,but believe you me that's what I think you should do.Good luck.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:16

      Bongeka, we were not invited.

  • dianne.hartley.9 - 2012-05-06 17:00

    How in Gods name do they ever hope to achieve this when so many farmers have been needlessly slaughtered!

  • Koos - 2012-05-06 17:01

    The cultural differences will not allow any "support from minority areas" The African culture - from Idi Amin and even further back - will have to change drastically. The "HEADMAN can do what he wants" culture will have to disappear. The ANC's motto - TOGETHER WE CAN DO MORE - will have to include whites - only to the better. In all facets of service delivery!!

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:43

      True but it will not happen.

      Sean - 2012-05-06 19:57

      impossible !

  • Hadebe - 2012-05-06 17:05

    Tjo! these goofies!!! they have no shame left, they should be more n seriously concerned about the maltitudes of blacks who are moving away from the anc, a half baked politician from rhuwanda can tell these imbeciles the reason for whites not to join the anc, they will spend R452 823 760 48 on trying to find out why whites are not joining the anc, and they still go about asking why...

      Gareth - 2012-05-06 17:10

      Service delivery. That's why people are moving away.

      Rob - 2012-05-06 17:13

      Hadebe. I like you. Good humour. Dont tell kensong though !

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-06 17:36

      @kensong.ben.7 - even when the ANC is not delivering I know for sure the majority will keep voting for them solely on the basis of fear....fact :)

      Nigel - 2012-05-06 17:42

      @Kensong, NO, we wouldn't vote for the ANC simply to avoid a power monopoly, hell ,see how they behave now & thats without a 2/3rd majority, can you imagine the useless dictatorship we would have if we all voted for the ANC, FYI, I don't give a rats ass what the color of the skin is of the politicians running the country, as long as they respect the constitution & do their jobs.

  • - 2012-05-06 17:15

    Bee, affirmative action, destruction of our culture, non condemnation and action with farm murders and you us to vote for you?? Have a fruit basket ( ) ( )

      Gladstone - 2012-05-06 17:17

      What are you really trying to say here?

      Rob - 2012-05-06 17:24

      He is saying NO to voting ANC ! - 2012-05-06 17:44

      I am waving my backside at these thieving bastards!

  • gerhard.scholtz.9 - 2012-05-06 17:16

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.aangesien dit gaan oor Afrikaans sprekende mense gaan ek in Afrikaans praat. Die anc is n sirkus en hulle kan vergeet dat die WARE Boer met die vyand sal saamleef. Klomp terroriste wat die land NET in sy mo*r in het, als wat die Boer opgebou het breek hulle af!! Die belangrikste is al die plaasmoorde wat deur die anc gepleeg word, hulle HAAT boere!! Hulle dien nie die Almagtige Vader nie. Ek sal nooit met die klomp antiChriste vrede maak nie.

      Jacques - 2012-05-06 17:26

      Ek stem saam, maar antiChriste is dalk effens vergesog? As korrupsie van jou 'n antiChris maak is daar 'n paar wat wereldwyd die rondtes doen. Ek stem saam met die plaasmoord saak. Mense gaan nie vir altyd met dit opsit nie- en die einde van die ANC is dalk baie nader as wat hul besef. Groetnis.

      Schalk - 2012-05-06 17:45

      jacques, ek stem saam jou. ek moet breindood wees of nie kan lees nie voor ek vir hul sal stem. of dr basson moet anc leier wees dan sal ek.

  • Jacques - 2012-05-06 17:20

    \Bordering on racial discrimination\?! BORDERING??? So 'shoot the boer', 'take land without compensation', 'WHITE capitalism', 'I will die defending whites' 'I want white domestic workers' is BORDERING on racial discrimination? What on Earth would genuine discrimination be? Sacrificing a white oake after a speech???

  • Refiloe - 2012-05-06 17:20

    ya nhe Anc u still not going to get my vote.

  • Refiloe - 2012-05-06 17:21

    ya nhe Anc u still not going to get my vote.

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-06 18:28

      @kensong.ben.7 - the ku klux klan is a secretive, fraternal hate group. It has never been a political party, never run for office or had its name on a ballot

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:45

      kensong the Klu Klux Klan was an american creation, created by the people who were disempowered by their civil war which ended in 1865. Try using relevant analogies or hide your ignorance.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 20:34

      @kensong.ben.7 PLEASE!!! DONT GO!!! Keep us entertained! We love your dimwitrocracy!!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:31

      Kensong what does the KKK have to do with South Africa?. What does cogite mean?. Geez

  • Nigel - 2012-05-06 17:21

    they are bleeding votes, including black voters, now they turn to minority groups to ensure they hang onto power, even though they can't run the country, sounds desperate to me!

  • Hudayfah - 2012-05-06 17:21

    lol While u at it, why dont you also find out why so many blacks has turned against you (my guess would be your empty promises,thieving tendancies and corruption cover-ups). People become more intelligent and wiser,you cant keep your hands over their eyes forever. I have a feeling the next election is going to be much closer than we think.

  • Kosmosblom - 2012-05-06 17:24

    Desperate times, desperate measures, if you want to 'win' (?'fool') 2/3rds MAJORITY.

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-05-06 17:28

    I can woo afrikaaners.It wont come cheap though,my price would be R15m so give me the tender anc.I am starting with my neighbours just now.

      Muisie - 2012-05-07 08:48

      @ Bra. Hullo Buurman....ek wag vir jou..kom probeer om my te oortuig! Vriendelike groete Buurvrou

      blipsie - 2012-05-07 10:51

      Hahaha! You two, play nice. Had a good giggle about your posts, thanks my day just got better!

  • Lazarus - 2012-05-06 17:29

    I am blAck and do not think that anyone(black and white) should vote for the ANC.The criminality and corruption surprise many black people.They have become the laughing stock in local politics.

      Nigel - 2012-05-06 17:46

      yes, yes, Lazarus, you & I are on the same page

  • Vandross - 2012-05-06 17:30

    What about the land that was seiced from people. Let us please not look at one side of the story. We do understand how painful it is for the afrikaaners. But please let's not be brainwashed. If AA and BEE are to be dropped then there must be equal share of the land and resources.

      Hudayfah - 2012-05-06 17:39

      Is there something wrong with your head? Go and work and by yourself some land man. Want want want . .go work gor it like all of us do

      blipsie - 2012-05-07 11:00

      @ Vandross, seriously. Would you vote for someone who not only sings they want to kill you, but then actually goes to high court in order to continue singing it???? HALLOOO?

  • TheVern69 - 2012-05-06 17:30

    First its Shoot the its \woo\ the boer!!??!! Eish guys really...I'm thinking you got weak after you let Malema go. Now I know you did! Sad sad effort eish

  • southinah.matlala - 2012-05-06 17:37

    South Africans must come to a point where they have to behave like a blind person, Can a blind person differentiate between a red cloth or green one?why does it always be about colour????? What a waste of time and energy being mean to a black or white person??? After all we are all going to die,from dust we came and to dust we shall return, and the nice part is those worms are not going to recognise your colour, so black/white/yellow we are all people

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-06 17:37

    I think sa needs a black government :) but I'll never vote for corruption.if u want my vote u have to work really hard .educate the youth and bring crime down.don't steal our money and then I'll vote :) good luck

  • Vic - 2012-05-06 17:39

    Come now ! They cannot be serious !

  • Billy - 2012-05-06 17:40

    lol ANC, the problem is you see. it doesnt matter how many meetings or brainstorming sessions you have, the words/garnish that will come from that brainstorm will have little to no affect. "white Afrikaans speakers" will vote based on results, not promises. unlike so many unfortunate souls currently in this country being taken for a ride.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-05-06 17:43

    Until the ANC cleans up its act and ceases to be an embarrassment to all, it is highly unlikely that it will attract any takers from the white community - unless they are bribed to do so - but then that rather defeats the purpose ... Move the buffoons out and put some trustworthy, moral, capable and educated people in place, and then maybe ... just maybe the ANC will stand a glimmer of a chance

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-06 18:29

      Kensong, forgive me, I'm not understanding you - please explain

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:49

      Kensong doesn't read too well he confused GLIMMER with GIMMY. He is definitely a product of a failed education system.

      Rob - 2012-05-06 18:58

      Kensong....Are you pi$$ed ?

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-06 21:32

      1 a : to shine faintly or unsteadily b : to give off a subdued unsteady reflection - specially for you Kensong. Understand now what I was trying to say? Or not!

  • marumobongani - 2012-05-06 17:52

    if you cant beat them join them that's what ANC IS SAYING TO THE WHITE COMMUNITIES come guys lets learn to appreciate

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 19:44

      Appreciate what??? Millions of people in poverty! I have been around! But I have never seen so many idiotic imbeciles anywhere in the world? That includes countries NORTH of the Limpopo! What a shame our education system, like every other one, has failed its people, and have all gotten stinking rich, for THEMSELVES!!! Utter disgusting thievery! I really feel sorry for you MARUMOBONGANI. Allow your brain cells to replicate! It does help!

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 20:16

      And become a ONE PARTY STATE! Like Zimbabwe and the rest of Africa and Middle East? How STUPID!!!!! CAN YOU BE!!!!! And then realise, oh, this is not democracy anymore! You are one seriously uninformed individual! You're on News24! Do you actually read whats going on in your country? Never mind the world? Having said that! We are going NOWHERE!!!!!! Bring it on!

      phonis9 - 2012-05-06 21:02

      @marumbongani !!!!!!!NEVER!!!!!

      blipsie - 2012-05-07 11:03

      @ marumobongani, They sing songs about killing that minority they want to woo now. Get a grip on reality ek se, would you vote for someone who advocates your murder?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:36

      Marumobongani, appreciate what?. We can't be bought with a t-shirt, food parcel and a coke.

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-06 17:55

    Bongani appreciate what corruption???go back to sleep

  • Deon - 2012-05-06 17:55

    Now ask the ANC one question. What did it do for the white Afrikaners since 1994 till now. I did not see the free houses, medical, jobs and schooling and much more that was promised to ALL South Africans. Only blacks and a few that was connected to government received these benefits.

      thapelo.devotion.mothibi - 2012-05-06 18:11

      There's township called Kagiso just next to krugersdorp, if you can go there and speak what you wrote you will deservedly earn a name MALICIOUS LIAR...from the Afrikanner community that lives there.

      Kevin - 2012-05-06 18:50

      Did you want them to bribe you?

      George - 2012-05-07 05:49

      @ thapelo, I lived in Randfontein and worked in Kagiso a number of years. Dont be a retard please, Kagiso is not a place you go to to get free houses, water and lights. It's somewhere you end up when the bloody ANC has taken everything away from you. Typical ANC supporter, clueless, thoughtless and meaningless. The ANC has been the number one supporter of white afrikaner deaths, now they want to woo them? What a complete insult to all those white families who have suffered losses.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-07 12:39

      Thapelo a few whites got houses in Kagiso, the majority of poor whites live in poverty, just like the majority of poor blacks. So what big deal is this?.

  • Ian - 2012-05-06 17:58

    They let Malema do the damage and now realize it is the time. They have a mountain to climb because Malema poisoned young whites who were born after 1994 by alienating and telling them they are thieves and criminals. Even though he spoke some truth he did with anger and hatred without noticing the end game. Even the racists that always perpetrate racism on this column have no foresight either. As much as I support affirmative\r\naction, I think there should be some sort redress especially for the young ones (who have not done anything wrong) to feel part of SA.

      thapelo.devotion.mothibi - 2012-05-06 18:16

      As much as I like him, I can't help it but will have to say YOU GOT A POINT Ian.

      Saamprater - 2012-05-07 07:47

      You make me regret that I voted and chose democracy long before the 94 ellections. We the middle ages whites in this country are being penalised for getting rid of the NP. next time I'll know better

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-06 17:58

    I'll vote for anyone that can do the or White.but at the moment ANC can not and if u think they are then I feel sorry for u.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 20:22

      Hear, hear! How difficult is it for people on this feed is it, to comprehend!!! They all voted for democracy! Now, its turned a mind set of another One Party State.

  • rithin.sewsunker - 2012-05-06 17:59

    I am sure the Afrikaaners are too intelligent to vote for the ANC. Really now, which person with a brain votes for them.

  • georgebrightons - 2012-05-06 18:00

    Wow, additional voters from the Afrikaans and coloured speaking people. What are u waiting 4. Come 2014 everyone will vote ANC irrespective of race and colour. Let's all work together. Better life for all.

      adrian.marais - 2012-05-07 02:33


  • Richard Mashaba - 2012-05-06 18:04

    if all political parties wanted to do good for people, i believe tht we would have 1 party representing us as a nation, therefore we have so many politcl parties because they have the same thing in their mind, which is archiving fame, glory and honor , they are not in power 4 us, all of this poltcl parties. if they really care about people, i think they must all swallow their pride n join to form 1 party, tht wil work for the nation.

  • gcinile.mahlangu - 2012-05-06 18:07

    Waste of time! They should be focusing on people from rural areas and the lack of resources in township and rural schools.. Those are the people who actually vote for them..Mxm!

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-06 18:08

    Mashaba it sounds nice,but we need competition so they work hard to win votes.never trust any party because it's the people vs the government

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-06 18:11

    Mahlangu that's why the don't help the rural people becuse they already have the votes they need so why must they try?? If they loose an election then you will see how they will help the poor.

  • Patrick - 2012-05-06 18:11

    @Tsotsi-Dur, ya, a cancer that brought 1500 of social evolution in the space of 200 years, cancer, sure.

  • Sid - 2012-05-06 18:13

    @tamarnui...Regarding your half-full glass theory..Certainly the inequalities of the past should be addressed (and more rapidly), but the problem in my opinion is...if you look at SA from a business perspective, you cannot simply take the existing wealth and redistribute it and hope for the best. NEW wealth must be created, through initiative from BLACKS and BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS. Create and generate. ..not take and redistribute,this just keeps the same pool of money in circulation. We (everyone in this country) need to be encouraged and assisted in this regard..not just those that were denied this right for 3 decades. Give MORE incentive to blacks YES, but not EXCLUSIVELY. See what I'm saying?

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-06 18:41

      Sid, Agreed with the expansion of the economy however the past must be addressed. Land removed under the groups areas acts ( Remember those) must be revisited and compensation or the land must be issued to the original legal owner( Whatever the victim requires). What you must understand is that wealth in this country was gained unfairly by a one team playing by themselves. This has to be addressed, Checkout International indices tracking RSA and the picture is a rosy one. Some of the corrupt leaders are being taken to task currently. Rome was not built in 18 years either,

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-06 20:55 you want another Zimbabwe???? The Farmers in this country are busy educating people all over South Africa as well as Africa! It takes TIME! You should be proud of it, as a South African! DO you know that? On farmmg! And even as far afield as South America! We have the best! Its going to happen at some stage! But to think like YOU do, it inconceivable! And very, very dangerous! Are you another "want to be" FATCAT? The Bread Basket of Africa (Zimbabwe), a dictator came along and made it a STARVING state! And also a South African problem! Stop, stop the past, and work gently, and without HATE, on improving the future! We have a fantastic country! A county of beauty and a country of VERY much love! I have traveled as a South African, in two moths with a Dutch friend, 8500 km! I was accepted and invited into places, where I never though I would be! STOP your greed! Stop whats in it for you! Stop the filth thats happening in the government of today! I as a white South African, again will say, would vote for ANY party, Black, White, Indian or Coloured, in no particular order, that can deliver! Stop blaming the past for the ruling parties mistakes, and get the F'kin job DONE!!!!!!

  • Grace - 2012-05-06 18:19

    This is a joke right?