Disruption, violence at talk - ANCYL condemned

2012-02-23 22:35

Johannesburg - The ANC condemned the conduct of ANCYL members who disrupted President Jacob Zuma's ANC centenary lecture in Cape Town on Thursday afternoon.

Several ANCYL members were thrown out of the Good Hope Centre by police and Zuma's bodyguards after they started to sing while Zuma was speaking, the SABC reported.

An SABC cameraman was hit while filming an anti-Zuma protest outside the venue.

Two people have were arrested following the violence, police said.

"We arrested two people. For now, it's charges of assault. The incident was put under control as quickly as it started," national police spokesperson Colonel Vish Naidoo said.

"There was a commotion which was noticed by our members who were deployed there. As they went to calm it down, they discovered that two people were injured, one of them a journalist."

In a statement, ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said: "It is regrettable that an innocent journalist from SABC was injured during the scuffle that ensued when the disruptive elements were ejected from the lecture".

He said the ANC would investigate, and if any members were found responsible, they would face disciplinary action.

The Inkatha Freedom Party said the attack on the cameraman was "a terrible attack on press freedom".

"What happened reflects the lack of respect that the ANC has either inculcated or allowed to grow among its members," spokesperson and MP Mario Oriani-Ambrosini said in a statement.

Zuma apologised to lecture participants. While this was welcomed, Oriani-Ambrosini said it would not be sufficient without a firm commitment from the entire ANC leadership to change the way the ruling party dealt with the media.

Speaking in Johannesburg earlier in the day, Zuma said the ANCYL was a part of the ANC, and not a separate entity.

  • Bob - 2012-02-23 22:44

    Hooligans! Well Mr Zuma, they are a product of your party…..Proud are you?

      Fred - 2012-02-23 23:35

      Zuma's Hooligans .... he let the tiger out of the cage, now, oh dear, how do we put it back in the cage ??????

      craigtjames - 2012-02-24 00:46

      They created the monster - they must now face the consequences! They cannot even run their own party, how in the world do they expect to ever be successful in running the country. Frankly, so far they have failed dismally.

      Max - 2012-02-24 05:22

      Hooligans yes, but the masses is beginning to lose their misplaced respect for the ANC which can only lead to one of two things, a police state or anarchy.

      Janice - 2012-02-24 06:57

      So bloody typical, acting like wild animals!!!

      Merven - 2012-02-24 07:21

      The ANC must be the only political party in the world that must call the police to sort out their own people and affiliates!

      morecats - 2012-02-24 07:28

      Max - February 24, 2012 at 05:22 Seems the wheel is turning like it did for the NP. Youths getting restless and aggressive but with one big difference....this time around they have no cause and no plan. Economic freedom is a state of mind and not an oppression and these dumb as mud cretins are learning the lesson that trying to share the loot with the main thief, Zoomer, didn't pan out as they expected! LOL!!

      Merven - 2012-02-24 07:30

      Well, think about it. For the first time both leaders (ANC and ANCYL) are uneducated individuals. All the previous leaders of both 'parties' had degrees and were qualified people, until now. There is a reason why leaders are chosen with an educated background.

      Herman - 2012-02-24 07:35

      Yet again the criminal incompetent anc regime shows its worth or rather total lack of value. One man one vote is the worst thing to happen to SA.

      Juicecard - 2012-02-24 07:58

      They are Zuma`s creations,remember how he enjoyed when these idiots disrespected Thabo Mbeki? Chickens coming home to roast!

      John - 2012-02-24 08:10

      Martin - 2012-02-24 08:16

      FRED- hand cuff the tiger and shoot it in the back

      Kobus - 2012-02-24 08:20

      lekkkeerrrrr, rky vir jou Zuma!

      msendi - 2012-02-24 08:27

      ANC must learn from these incidents. Hooliganism started during Mbeki's reign and now it is out of control. But lets not judge millions of ANC followers by a handful of scoundrels who take orders from Malema…

      francois.rauch - 2012-02-24 08:54

      Here is the law: What you sow you shall reap! FULLSTOP!

      Nkulekweni - 2012-02-24 09:07

      Herman You are right. The one man one vote regime is the worst thing to have happened to South Africa. Apartheid on the other hand was the best. My theory is, if enough of you lobby the US, Australian, Canadian and other European governments and show them just how abhorrent the one man one vote system is to a certain minority, they will begin to look more favourably on white South African asylum seekers. There are a number of organisations in Europe and in the U.S that might help you guys. Two that immediately spring to mind are the British Nationalist Party and the Ku Klux Klan. If you were to start an organisation now liasing with these organisations you would be helping a lot of people and you would definitely definitely be helping South Africa. What are you waiting for. Seize the day!!!!

      Ian - 2012-02-24 10:05

      The chickens have come home to roost!

      Poloyatonki - 2012-02-24 10:32

      Zuma is in for a big surprise in Mangaung, the ANCYL has more members than ANC. He only has one option, reinstate Malema or you are out in the cold.

      eric.vanvuuren - 2012-02-24 11:02

      That’s what happens when you and your cronies hijacked the country, and p!ss?d on the constitution, rape the tax payers and steel from the poor. In other words: your legacy JZ. No one respects you or your organization, not even your own members, their acting as if it’s a free for all. Lekker to be alone at the top, hey? Don’t worry next election we will laugh at you.

      sefeddt - 2012-02-24 12:32

      @Merven COPE also had to do it.

      Karin - 2012-02-24 12:37

      please can anyone tell me why they are referd to as "disruptive elements" as opposed to unruly / undisciplined YL members?

  • mary.kircher - 2012-02-23 22:51

    Mr Zuma - you have the power, disband this group of unruly hooligans now,instead of prattling on about them being a part of the ANC - are you so so stupid that you cannot even see what is happening ? For once, in your term of office - make a decision - stop always sitting on the fence.

      John - 2012-02-23 23:30

      Mary, Haven't you seen the movie "Home Alone"? ANC Party elections are not far...but is not close either. Zuma will not survive Manugang 2012....we all know that, but "freedom figters" are comming and today's "bad boys" will be the tommorow "Heroes". Wait to see the New Politeconomy chapter in 2013

      Merven - 2012-02-24 07:22

      Sad but true John.

      sizwe - 2012-02-24 09:25

      Mary, the ANCYL is being disruptive as a strategy. If they can get the ANC is disband them then their discipline moves out of the hands NDC to the NEC which then keep the door open. The ANCYL are wiley little meisers trying all they can to keep themselves in power

  • Chris - 2012-02-23 23:00

    Thats what happens when people have no respect and self respect for authority and elderlys.

      John - 2012-02-23 23:33

      "have no...self respect for authority"? That is debatable. Zuma and Malema have a HUGE Self Respect for Authority.

      Phillie - 2012-02-24 00:16

      That one word you used is the crux of all that is wrong in this country RESPECT we have no respect for the law, for rules, for elderly, for superior. Even for each other and in many cases not even for ourselves. Bring back National service for EVERYBODY so that thugs like these can be taught discipline and respect.

      Kevin - 2012-02-24 07:23

      A bit hard to respect the speaker

      Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:31

      Respect is earned, even by elders. Zuma has not earned any! The anc has not earned any! Give them a fright, vote DA!

      SJ - 2012-02-24 08:23

      In this case, why should they have respect? Tell me how did Zuma, the man, earn their, mine or anyones respect? The office of president, might be another question, but even about that I have serious doubts.

      John - 2012-02-24 08:23

      HaHaHaa...:) I'll count those tumbs down as you don't respect Zuma and/or Malema Self-respect and/or Self-esteem is person's overall evaluation or appraisal of his own. Don't mix that with respect...aka admiration for someone evoked by their abilities or qualities.

  • isaac.baloyi1 - 2012-02-23 23:16

    If they have complaints and conerns the must use correct channels to voice them! I abhor this unruly behaviour with greatest contempt!!!

      Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:33

      Civil war within the anc?

  • Ad - 2012-02-23 23:19

    What you reap is what you sow...Why is the ANC so surprise that their own is standing up against them?.

  • Seth - 2012-02-23 23:51

    disbanding the ancyl will not change the situition in south africa it will cause mass riots with little to identiyfy what gruop there in . There better thinking there part of something than nothing as there will start causing too much trouble. There better there as there can be commutited too then when there spilt up .

      Sally Lewitt - 2012-02-24 02:44

      Huh? Rephrase please

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-24 06:24

      Seth please don't drop out of school again? You desperately need to go back and finish your education. And Seth? ... I'm watching you

      vmputa - 2012-02-24 06:27

      Please break it down in ENGLISH , this time. Thank you.

      Barefoot - 2012-02-24 06:47

      You people don't get it this is simple he means to say- there as then and better these less trouble commuted

      David - 2012-02-24 07:20

      @Seth & Barefoot Come on now, guys. I'm willing to sponsor you to go and complete your high school education. LOL...

      Merven - 2012-02-24 07:25

      2011 matriculant Seth?

      Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:37

      @Sally - Just use your brains! Seth is right, keep the ancyl where they can be seen and dealt with, disband and they will be nebulous, incognito, anonymous rabble!

      Angus - 2012-02-24 07:45

      Jeeez Seth, what school did you go to? Your grammar is so bad it looks like you are actually writing while high or something.

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-24 07:46

      @Glyn - please don't use "Seth" and "right" in the same sentence, k? If he actually wrote something in a language we could all, even vaguely, understand, then sure. He might be ... right. I'm not sure if he's even human as this point.

      Marion - 2012-02-24 07:54

      I think that Seth is, in essence, saying: Keep your friends close but your enemies even closer. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us Seth.

      Elle-Black - 2012-02-24 07:56

      @ Seth I really wish i could understand what you saying

      Cynthia - 2012-02-24 09:06

      Seth, when you have read what you have written and can understand it, please explain it to someone and ask them to write it for you.

      thozi - 2012-02-24 09:21

      @ Seth I know your article was in English... but what language did you use?

  • swessels1 - 2012-02-24 00:16

    I say malema should start his own party. Before commenting think about why I am saying this. And then realise what my real motive for this is. a solution to the ANC get most votes issue. and will proberly stabilize the democrasy in SA

      Zipho Ka Nomafu Myaluza - 2012-02-24 01:09

      u on some kind of narcotics, for sure,zero sense of the post,shame

      Sally Lewitt - 2012-02-24 02:41

      Are you nuts? Eish!

      Cast53 - 2012-02-24 07:36

      Agree with you swessels will take a big chunk of ANC support, might even make the DA win

      Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:40

      Yes! A split in the anc monolith will improve democracy in South Africa. Maybe more than one split would be even better. Why are the communists so afraid of hiving off? No courage!

      Merven - 2012-02-24 09:32

      It will just be a black AWB party.

      bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-02-24 11:18

      I think the ANCYL already take themselves as a separate political party from the ANC. They have indicated that the decision by the ANC (Mother body) to discipline their president will be ignored and is not binding to them, as they are independent and have their own constitution. It is then my take that what is left for them (ANCYL) is to change the name, maybe remove ANC and remain with YOUTH LEAGUE (ANC) YL

      Jacqui - 2012-02-24 11:32

      I hope they don't ask you to write their plans.

  • MakaNyawuzenkukhu - 2012-02-24 00:30

    With respect to ANC leadership I just want us to remind ourselves first about where ANCYL refer to. The same youth was admired and instrumental on pushing away Mr T. Mbeki from a demanded position then, what difference it constructs now when they accomplish what they learnt. Just think the leadership have to come clean in public apologising about their acts against TM who served genuinely his country for the best interest and advantage of all citizens devoid of any element of prejudice. However, it can be said the ANCYL inherited much distorted behaviour which is accompanied by lack of discipline and direction in a real world and that worries a lot.... ANC must not be economic on realism so that it can have a first-class upshot on enforcing discipline in the party and all its branches also.

      John - 2012-02-24 00:42

      "...The same youth was admired and instrumental on pushing away Mr T. Mbeki....." Ma bra...He was voted out within ANC. Wake Up. I know that you've seen Juluis Malema in baraicades next to Che Gevara, but please don't distort historical facts here.

      MakaNyawuzenkukhu - 2012-02-24 01:30

      @ John ....... more comments reserved.

      John - 2012-02-24 05:10

      @Maka Thabo Mbeki was not voted down from ANCYL. I agree that ANCYL was folowing on campaign againts Mbeki, but get right who causes "dogs to bark".

      Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:46

      Whatever ... Truth is that the anc is on the way down! They have destroyed the prosperity and infrastructure of South Africa, time they moved on!

      Marion - 2012-02-24 07:58

      I agree that the ANCYL youth league was instrumental in ousting Mbeki and getting Zuma into power. They can't make up their minds about what they want. Out with Mbeki, in with Zuma - we will die for Zuma - out with Zuma in with ??? 'who served genuinely his country for the best inte3rest and advantage of all citizens devoid of any element of prejudice." As I recall Mbeki had quite a lot to say about whites which tells me there was prejudice. But maybe I've got selective memory.

      SJ - 2012-02-24 08:26

      Anyone above the age of 21 should not be a youth anymore. if such person acts as yoputh then he is immature and should be ignored. Fix that and the real youth problems might be handled. What is happening now is that some people with serious politcal asperations is misusing the real youth and their organizations, to positions themselves. In the end it is the real youth who looses out bigtime. Think about it: if a 30year old= person has not accomplished anything in life or have a job, surely it is somehow his own fault.

      Marion - 2012-02-24 08:51

      @SJ - "UNESCO's objective is to help empower young people, reaching out to them, responding to their expectations and ideas, fostering useful and long-lasting skills. Meeting this objective is a challenging task! The United Nations define youth as persons between the ages of 15 and 24. UNESCO understands that young people are a heterogeneous group in constant evolution and that the experience of ‘being young’ varies enormously across regions and within countries." In the Commonwealth it is people aged 15 - 29. In the youth development policy in SA a youth is described as: young males and females aged from 14 to 35 years

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-02-24 04:29


      Sally Lewitt - 2012-02-24 04:35

      Who gives a damn on what Rob in Zim is so fed up with.. Why is the inhuman still breathing.. Ai Ai

      Nigel - 2012-02-24 07:34

      at the end of the day, its the ANC that is fighting with itself instead of serving the people, it doesn't matter if you blame, the ANCYl, Mbeki, Zuma, Malema, they are all part of the ANC, so instead of voting for them so that they can continue their in-fighting over power & money, just stop giving them your vote.

      Kevin - 2012-02-24 08:44

      Sally and Raymond, if Zuma manges to create conditions such that Mugabe is ousted from power in Zimbabwe, and then gets ousted as South African President in Manguang he will get more recognition when history is written than the "educated" Mbeki.

  • Larry - 2012-02-24 05:02

    Its in the way you raise your Kids Mr Zuma, You let them run riot and turned a blind eye. Now that they are causing you problems, you whinge. The Buck stops with you, you made them what they are.

  • Tony - 2012-02-24 05:18

    Yeah, ANC let's be mature. A proud history you say ? I know, let's go change some place names ..... That will sort out the hooligans??

  • brionyl.french - 2012-02-24 05:54

    Yup if you breed hate they will end up hating... even themselves... ANC needs a facelift BIG TIME

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-24 06:26

      Ag just close the defunct lot down. No big loss ...

  • Bruce Chetty - 2012-02-24 06:44

    The ANC needs a wake up call in the form of an official opposition, and not that mediocre DA that only got 12% votes. Maybe it is time for Vavi, a SACP-COSATU break away alliance.

      Burtfred - 2012-02-24 06:58

      The DA - try 16.7% of the national vote in the last general election. The SACP is a spent force - their membership is miniscule. Don't believe the bluster from Blade. The vast majority of Cosatu membership is made up of ANC supporters, most of them won't vote for Cosatu party. That's why Vavi is in the Alliance. The only hope we have of building a strong opposition in the near future is by supporting the DA - They are highly organized and have growing support, even in the so-called topwnships.

      Nigel - 2012-02-24 07:42

      @ Bruce, I agree, I see Vavi breaking away & forming a strong black led opposition, despite his often extreme unionist statements, he is still one of the few black leaders that have principals & morals & does represent the spoor & working classes, unlike "Bling King" Malema, who pretends to care about them. The corrupt & power drunk ANC will start to break up soon, with the thugs from the ANCYL forming a rightwing terrorist group, Cosatu forming an opposition party & the SACP clinging onto the ANC like a parasite. Maybe then when the ANC has a real black led opposition party, will SA politics start maturing.

      Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:54

      @Bruce ... A bust-up between the anc and cosatu would be a good thing, splitting the anc. However if you are looking for a party to run the DA is by far the best option. Just look at the Western Cape. Are you from KZN? Take a break, visit the Cape, see for yourself. Vote DA!

      Marion - 2012-02-24 09:38

      @Bruce Chetty - have you noticed that the 'mediocre' DA has been gaining wards countrywide since the last national election? Did you notice that the DA (and Cope) increased their %'s whilst the ANC % went down? Mediocre is as mediocre does. DA's mediocrity in its areas of governance is 100% better than others 'excellence'. Remember, the higher they are (ANC) the longer the drop. If COSATU splits from the ANC alliance will its members vote for COSATU because they truly believe in the new party or will they vote because they are told to vote? Just as they are told when to go on strike.

  • Dennis - 2012-02-24 06:51

    When the "youth" have leaders like zuma and co to look up to, what else would you expect !!

  • anthro45 - 2012-02-24 06:54

    Can life get any better than this?

  • Michelle - 2012-02-24 06:55

    That is what happens when a parent (ANC)does not discipline its child (ANCYL)firmly the first time they get out of hand and allow them to be disruptive, disrespectful of the elders and ill-mannered.

  • malcolm - 2012-02-24 07:07

    The ANC only have themselves to blame. Internal discipline within its ranks have simply been none existent since the beginning of their rule. I believe it is now far too late to instill discipline and order within this party, and they have no future in South Africa. We need order and stability in the country and the ANC are not competent enough to achieve this.

  • Kevin - 2012-02-24 07:22

    This is what happens when you have 35 year old useless middle aged thugs in an organization for even more useless 21 year olds.Please stop using tax payers money to fund an absolutely useless organization. Money saved to fund tax cuts.

  • Wendy - 2012-02-24 07:25

    These are today's thugs, tomorrows politicians !!

  • Glyn - 2012-02-24 07:25

    Throw these hooligans out! Sing about machine guns and the fat boys believe you Zuma! Vote DA! Or some other opposition party of your choice.

  • Nigel - 2012-02-24 07:26

    Well you said yesterday at a Numsa presentation that the YL should be militant, I bet you are already regretting this irresponsible & foolish statement, especially after you & the rest of the ANC have sat by & let this ill-dicipline & thuggish behavior take root in your party. It was all fine when they were intimidating, abusing & threatening other parties & whites, but now that these thugs are doing the same to the ANC, suddenly you wake up, fools!!!!!!

      Terry-Lee Heuer - 2012-02-24 07:40

      Couldn't agree with you more Nigel and also what he said yesterday was mind boggling!!!

      Tshidada - 2012-02-24 14:17

      You people are a crzy lot, u dnt knw what is and what was, you easily 4get. what the youth league did was right. whta did you say wen you AWB leader tried 2 budged into the building where negotiations where made? i think you are the fools

  • catcus1 - 2012-02-24 07:26


  • jensbirger.giebelmann - 2012-02-24 07:32

    I is sad so see that the entire country is suffering because the ANC is too busy fighting within it's ranks rather then governing the country. Power and greed are more important then the prosperity of South Africans.

      Cast53 - 2012-02-24 07:43

      @Peper so you trying to say nothing have changed in the last 5 years. They to busy infighting and looting state coffers to give a damn about the people of the country

      Tshidada - 2012-02-24 14:13

      Did your kind care about the prosperity of all South African?

  • gillian.d.toit - 2012-02-24 07:38

    Only in South Africa is a Youth League in opposition to its parent body. The sad part is that that the Youth league has a more realistic chance of unseating the President than any opposition party!

  • Marion - 2012-02-24 07:46

    One of the stated aims during Apartheid was to make the country ungovernable. They succeeded. How did they expect to reign in that monster when they came into power?

  • Sikanyiso - 2012-02-24 07:52

    The acts of thuggery that we saw at Good Hope in Cape Town during the Memorial Lecture of the late ANC President Makgatho deserve strong condemnation in all possible terms. Commrades of Cape Town no matter how devasteted they are with decisions of the leadership, should have contained their anger and allowed the process to continue. The kind of arnachy and dissipation which the ANCYL members in that part of the world they exhibited could not be tolerated. However, the entire ANC membership including the leadership should ask one honest question, when did we start witnessing these kind of elements. If the lack of discipline has been a phenomenon in the ANC even in the past leadership, why some of the ANC leaders who were part of the previous(and present) leadership were so quiet by then? Why the youth league when it heckled former President, Thabo Mbeki in KwaZulu-Natal was not dsciplined. Why did the ANC allow Malema and his gang to insult President Mbeki calling him a dictator and that he should match out of the ANC into political oblivion and that the party was ready to re-imburse him his R10 (joining fee)The people who uttered those words were not even born by that time when President Mbeki joined the movement of his parents at the age of 14 years. If these scrupous elements were tackled before 2007 no body would have raised eye brows when strigent actions were taken against the youth league. I like an English axiom that says ' what goes around comes around.'

  • Zion - 2012-02-24 07:52

    I can honestly say I am proud of the way I brought up my 5 children today. I can, too, honestly say they taught their own children to know right from wrong. If my children or grand children had to act the same way as the ANCYL I would probably disown them. All persons are born equal but it is their voluntary actions that make them less equal to others. in the community.

  • Eric - 2012-02-24 07:54

    In all walks of life and throughout the world we have youth that rebel. They rebel in homes, streets, universities etc etc. What we have in the ANC at the moment is a jostling for power by those that are no more youth and ready to become politicians. We have the senior politicians that used those youth that want to keep their positions. So old dogs vs new dogs. We gona have some extreme clashes

  • J-Man - 2012-02-24 07:56


  • Anthony - 2012-02-24 07:57

    good the crack begins

      sikhosananorma - 2012-02-24 08:05

      Is this a sign of SA going down the drain just like all african countries.

  • Roger - 2012-02-24 08:02


  • Ina - 2012-02-24 08:09

    As you sow, so shall you reap.

  • Paul - 2012-02-24 08:10

    Good to start the weekend with a bit of comedy

  • Bandile - 2012-02-24 08:11

    Ja well, this was on the cards all the time. The last vestiges of civilisation are now falling away

  • Jean - 2012-02-24 08:12

    Ha ha ha! Getting their own medicine back! I just love it!!!

  • Mboneni - 2012-02-24 08:13

    The ANC is unable to discipline its members,thats why the organisation is disintegrating.The ill-discipline started long time ago when the youth were given platform to hurl insults at anybody,they even threatens our judiciary and promise to die for JZ

  • Harald - 2012-02-24 08:16

    the dog is biting the master...

  • Munchk1n - 2012-02-24 08:20

    Now the anc can see how their bad influences have educated the youth of today. anc have just reaped what they've sowed. Next election, anc is out, so remember everyone to cast your vote and get rid of ALL these idiots.

  • SJ - 2012-02-24 08:21

    What a recipe for disaster: Thugs meeting the head of a mafia. Yes, what else could you call a regime who steals R20billion+ in one year from the tax payers?

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-24 08:23

    wouldnt expect anything less... GO ANCYL! You're well on your way to being dissolved

  • Vaal-Donkie - 2012-02-24 08:26

    I wish journalists and the ANC would pick up a dictionary and find out wha the word "comdemn" means.

      thozi - 2012-02-24 08:39

      @ Vaal-Donkie Which dictionary are you using?

      Marion - 2012-02-24 09:02

      @Vaal-Donkie.... do you mean this definition: Express complete disapproval of, typically in public; censure. Or do you mean this definition: Sentence (someone) to a particular punishment, esp. death: "the rebels had been condemned to death".

  • William - 2012-02-24 08:28


  • njdejager - 2012-02-24 08:35

    Savages!Thats the way they roll.....

  • Nigel - 2012-02-24 08:36

    These are the ANCYL thugs that destroyed the toilets errected by the DA, this is what the DA has been dealing with, now the ANC is facing their intolerance & utter disrespect, strange how the wheel turns.

  • Tony - 2012-02-24 08:42

    Well, as we keep hearing from the ANC thieves and their Useless League, the ANC is a REVOLUTIONARY party. They have blamed apartheid for everything under the sun, had a go at the whites, had go at the Asians, the Coloureds, so it stands to reason that they now are having a goat each other. I would like to remind them the change fromREVOLUTIONto EVOLUTION is only dropping the R. But I doubt the revolutionary culture will die soon. After all these are the twits that name roads after Che Guava ....... And the ignorant masses vote for this crappy life?

      Bandile - 2012-02-24 08:53

      Hehe, I know it's a finger slip, but when I read your "they now are having a goat each" I could just see Zuma and Malema each with his own goat.

  • Cynthia - 2012-02-24 08:50

    Where do you think they learnt this arrogant behaviour?

  • Terence - 2012-02-24 08:56

    He who rides the Tiger must be careful - Tigers bight. Winston Churchill 1940.

  • reinhard.pettenburger - 2012-02-24 09:05

    Its siomple how can you expect progress when your own political party have no respect for the leaders as a result of the corrupt ANCYL that will not accept the ANC disiplinary proceedures which is a result of the failures within the ANC to ensure the masses are educated. Saying that I am sure apartheid will be blamed again!!

  • malcolm - 2012-02-24 09:09

    Phumi, Your worthless ANC, your worthless future. The ANC forgot to put worthless on their campaign posters. The rest of us don't wait in vain for ANC promises. We simply get up off our butts and do something for our own self improvement. What kind of twat wants to be a street fighter in a democracy. If you are not happy, simply get all the would be street fighters to vote for a decent government in the country. The very reason Syria has street fighters running amok, is because they do not have democracy and a vote. The members of the ANCYL can simply vote for another party if they do not like the ANC. This is what democracy is all about. No need to run around like barbarians, unless of course the ANCYL now want to spend the next hundred years fighting to overturn democracy, after the ANC just spent almost a the same amount of time freeing the black South Africans through democracy. EEEISH, I am confused.

  • Collen Masetla - 2012-02-24 09:09

    According to zuma, in his youth league times he made statements to kill white people and leaders of the ANC talked to him about leading the revolution, he confessed. Many years later he is party leader and President Julius Malema makes statements about white being criminals for stealing the land, not all white though, and he is facing expulsion. Do you want your youth league to become the best or should they prepare for the worst? You even said if they don't make mistakes then they are not the youth... Was Botswana statement not a mistake which was apologised for to show it was mistake? Is it because Julius Malema is more popular and you fear he might gain more power? Why was he disciplined as individual yet his comrades in the youth league agree that it was league's resolution and he was only delivering a message. What is going on with current ANC? I'm telling you, if any party takes over from you zuma, they will nationalise and take land back to the right owners and gain more votes. What is the reason for ANC to decline in votes? Watch your back ANC, this is the party we love but is like it never fail to dissapoint...

      Marion - 2012-02-24 09:48

      @Colen Masetla... the comment about Botswana was certainly no mistake. It was virtually a declaration of war on an independent neighbour. Not only that, other African leaders were grossly insulted at the same time as I recall. Wasn't it also just after a visit to uncle Bob that this 'mistake' was made? People who make those kind of 'mistakes' should never be given a public platform, hiding behind the skirts of the parent body nogal, to utter their 'mistakes'. Jacob Zuma's ear is probably still burning from the heated phone calls he received fromo those individuals who were targets of this 'mistake'. JM has embarrassed South Africa more than enough. He must be expelled. Finish 'n klaar.

      J-Man - 2012-02-24 10:19

      @ Marion - don't even try using rational explanations. It obviously doesn't work.

      Tshidada - 2012-02-24 15:07

      JM is going to be your president, so get used to eat while you can. he ddnt embarrass our country in any way. what AWB did, embarrassed our country