ANCYL distances itself from video

2012-02-16 14:49

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League distanced itself on Thursday from footage of its president Julius Malema addressing delegates in a closed session at its lekgotla last week.

"The ANCYL will seek legal advice on the legal recourse and will further conduct its own internal investigations on where the video emanates from," deputy president Ronald Lamola told reporters at Luthuli House in Johannesburg.

On the video, Malema said the judiciary was controlled by the white minority.

He said he had three white lawyers - who irritated him - looking into allegations of corruption linked to the awarding of tenders.

"But there's nothing I can do because the judiciary is controlled by these white minorities," said Malema.

Lamola said Malema had "full confidence" in his legal team.

"No one imposed the legal team on him [Malema] and if there were any kinds of problems, he could have easily walked away," Lamola said.

Malema, ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu and secretary general Sandiso Magaqa did not attend the media briefing.

They were attending a hearing in mitigation of their suspensions, also taking place at Luthuli House.

They were found guilty in November last year of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party, partly for making comments about regime change in Botswana.

Malema, who was found to have compared President Jacob Zuma unfavourably to his predecessor, Thabo Mbeki, was suspended for five years. Shivambu, who insulted a journalist, was suspended for three years.

Magaqa, who was found to have made derogatory and potentially defamatory statements against Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba, received an 18-month suspension, suspended for three years, on condition he apologise within five days of receiving the penalty or appealing against it.

Also suspended were Lamola, ANCYL treasurer general Pule Mabe and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi.

On February 4, the ANC's appeals committee announced that it had dismissed attempts by Malema, Shivambu, Magaqa and the others to have the guilty verdicts against them overturned.

  • Justin - 2012-02-16 14:57

    He is the Biggest racist this country has... as long as he is still infront of people "chanting" racism will never die!!!!!

      Kacee - 2012-02-16 15:00

      Why distance yourself, you were all there cheering... @ssH0l3s

      Mike - 2012-02-16 15:26

      OK, I also don't understand this!! One moment they hang on his lips, next moment they distance themselves? Let us flip a coin what would be the next? Heads (for Malemmers' one brain cell) or Tails (running away between their legs)??

      Moss - 2012-02-16 15:48

      By far Botha takes it all trot!!

      Mike - 2012-02-16 15:58

      Another amazing observation and typically Malemmer! He had three white lawyers. When he lost the case he makes it a racist issue! As Lamola said: "No one imposed the legal team on him [Malema] and if there were any kinds of problems, he could have easily walked away!" Double agenda if you ask me!!

      theO rAcLe - 2012-02-16 15:59

      Such a obvious move for Malema to attack the judiciary. He’s always been so predictable it’s laughable. His followers are truly such blind moronic sheep that they will follow him into the depths of the destruction of this economy and country … Limpopo money worries, is a micro example of awaits this country if the ANCYL get their way. 4 Million white people who are not by any-means all wealthy … 49 Million Previously disadvantaged … even if you take the “wealth” of 4 million. How does that solve the problem for the 45 million? Wealth can not be divided or split, as soon as you take away incentive the wealth generator (the entrepreneur) stops creating that wealth and the economy WILL collapse. Its all simple math, being distorted by populist propaganda and catch frases like “economic freedom” which is just a frase with no base in reality. The only way this country can be saved is aggressively grow the economy and use the experienced people we have to get us into the global market to create more jobs. We need a imaginative government that to come with clever strategies to encourage growth a government the business and people can trust with the peoples money … what we don’t need and what will surely lead to this countries demise is MALEMA and the ANCYL. Had to copy and past this message again.........

      Vince - 2012-02-16 17:10

      Mr Malema, if your lawyers don't fire you after this, then they have no balls and if you loose these corruption cases against you then it is because of that and not because of any whites on the judiciary!

      Patrick - 2012-02-16 17:17

      @justin remember verword said that by no monitoring black they will make a meal of whites. that one(verword) is the biggest racist

      lindz.kok - 2012-02-16 17:39

      patric what does verwoerd have to do with this? do you see anyone draging hitler into debates?

      Gollum - 2012-02-16 20:19

      Racist or not...was he wrong?

      steve.dupreez - 2012-02-17 07:39

      @justin - but what about the WHITE racist on this very forum?? You obviously ignore thi sbecause they are white or you are not a frequent visitor to this forum. Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black??

      Mike - 2012-02-17 15:03

      @Gollum: Racist or not, WAS HE RIGHT?????????

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-16 15:00

    So the ANCYL distance themselves from something their leader said (we know this because we have him on video) but yet you still support him? You bunch of IDIOTS!

      Vicky - 2012-02-16 15:07

      If they weren't OUR idiots it could have been funny…..

      Kacee - 2012-02-16 15:08

      LOL, innocent until proven guilty, in Malema's case innocent until proven stupid

      Fredster - 2012-02-16 15:13

      Aish, I think the last part has been proven beyond reasonable doubt

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-16 15:14

      @Aish - he proves himself stupid everytime he opens his fat mouth!

      procold2 - 2012-02-16 15:16

      he will say its not him on the video,it is some white guy with one of those rubber masks, must be from the Vf

      Sharon - 2012-02-16 15:25

      @ Procold - I know who it was!! It was the Nando's doll - I tell you what, I can't tell them apart!

      Newsmonger - 2012-02-16 15:35

      @eish he has proven his stupidity...too think out of a 100 000 sperm he was the quickest swimmer?!Mind boggling!

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-16 15:38

      @Newsmonger - for Malema to have won, those must have been some SERIOUSLY dumb sperm who lost!! hahahaha

  • Merkwaardig - 2012-02-16 15:01

    Ah! The moving tree of economic freedom fighters...

  • J-Man - 2012-02-16 15:02

    Oh NOW you suddenly "distance yourself" from your leader's outbursts...when he's caught red-handed...again! Make up your "minds" already you bunch of useless halfwits.

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-16 15:15

      ya, now they want to find out where the video came from... lol! IT CAME FROM A VIDEO CAMERA! who cares where it came from! Talk about deflecting attention (or trying to anyway)

  • Sharmay - 2012-02-16 15:02

    And you want him to lead you? If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

      makesuthink - 2012-02-16 15:21

      Somebody has to wash the dishes

  • Guy - 2012-02-16 15:03

    COWARDS, brave lions my ass.

      HiJack - 2012-02-16 15:37

      Yeah I also laugh at that. Always refering to themselves as "Young Lions". Funny how it takes FIVE brave, young lions to attack TWO white women. Very brave and noble indeed.

      Kent - 2012-02-16 16:59

      Cubs maybe, also that is not right, more like hyenas.

  • Sande - 2012-02-16 15:05

    What are the bunch of boys taking us for, that video didn't drop from sky Malema keep making foolish utterances it's time to face the music. No one was holding a gun on his head to go for white attorneys so he must not make it our problem, there are brilliant black attorneys out there

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-02-16 19:13

      He insult black attorneys by the mere appointment of white attorneys. this proves why we need AA!!! Black leaders do not TRUST their own people to defend them talking about an inferiority complex of NOTE!!!

  • sardick.davids - 2012-02-16 15:09

    last few kicks of a dying cow.....

      Archie - 2012-02-17 11:33

      cows are useful to us farmers,rather call him a rabid jackal.

  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-16 15:10

    We know he is a racist - the entire world knows .. lets hope he can be stopped for good.

  • Elmarie - 2012-02-16 15:11

    He might be correct, white minority might control judiciary but that's because the white minority attend school REGULARLY, matriculate and get an education (which they PAY for), instead of sitting on their rear ends demanding everything, and feeling entitled to everything - they actually do what needs to be done...he could always go to one of his black lawyers if it was so important to him - one is entitled to choose their lawyers, but obviously he knows that his best chance is a qualified lawyer.

      Jerome - 2012-02-16 15:48

      by implication you are suggesting black lawyers are not qualified? do not attend school which in any case they do also not pay for? as opposed to the white lawyers who struggled to get an educatino and fought equally for anything theyve ever obtained in their lives? suppose malema is being represented by middle aged white men,which is the case,then during what time period did these males grow up in and attend school fairly in contrast to black males whos oppurtunities were limited by apartheid? ofcourse these white males are better educated then most as because of apartheid they HAD he oppurtunity to attend the best schools and universities. the effects of apartheid are a reality. take the proportion of blacks to whites unemployed,if their were no effects of apartheid then the ratios would be simillar

      Moss - 2012-02-16 15:50

      Yawn, any kitchen recipe hun??

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-16 16:17

      I hear what you say, but that is generalizing. Please refrain from that. It is the most provoking thing in our race issue at the moment. When you handle each thing individually you will be surprise who are supporting you. There are good black lawyers and when good and your tariff is acceptable I do not mind what colour you call yourself.

      Tooka - 2012-02-16 16:31

      Besides, any white lawyer willing to take Malema's $#!t is as despicable and disgusting (if not more so) that Malema himself.

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-02-16 19:24

      @Jerome It is not Elmarie But Rather you Esteemed ancyl leader by implication suggesting black lawyer are inferior. He is a Racist and a Big-git. Dont blame whites for Malema own choice to appoint white lawyers instead of black ones and because AA was not applied ( IN it self an acknowledgement of inferiority complex when 90% of the people need laws to protect them against 10 % of the population) Not even one black lawyer to represent him ALL WHITE!!

  • Bigwolf - 2012-02-16 15:15

    Even the ANCYL are not behind Malema, so why do we entertain this piece of Sh(one)t? I feel he gets way to much publicity for the clown he is.

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-02-16 19:26

      He is much more entertaining than Moodley News 24 force feed us a couple a weeks ago.

  • Hermann - 2012-02-16 15:20

    So much for the unshakable unity.

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-02-16 15:22


      E=MC2 - 2012-02-16 15:39

      sssshhh dont tell them, this is funny. :-)

  • werner.smidt - 2012-02-16 15:24

    What is this . . . ? I don't even . . .

  • Grimett - 2012-02-16 15:26

    There are many like Julius in every race,I know many whites,Coloureds,Indians and Blacks with the same traits as Julius and they would act exactly the same way if the roles were reversed and they were given that opportunity.Educate the masses,eradicate illiteracy and the choices of leaders will change.Julius does not behave that way because he is Black.He is just a "special" person.

      Danny - 2012-02-17 11:18

      Agree wholeheartedly. This isn't even a black/white thing, it's just that some people (Julius for one) make it that. The thumbs down to your comment are the narrow-minded ones of us!

      Cedric - 2012-02-17 14:46

      retard is that special enough

  • NrGx - 2012-02-16 15:27

    this @ss spews racism and is caught on video, so the yl distances itself from the video, but the impression I got from this article is that the bigger problem is where the video came from. WTF??? What would he/they have to say if we said the country is only run by blacks? Disband the YL, jail malema.!!

  • Darryl - 2012-02-16 15:28

    It was a DA white spy disguised as a black who took the video in secret.

      Sharmay - 2012-02-16 15:38

      Ah Darryl, how did you know? I thought my disguise was convincing...

      Heiku - 2012-02-16 15:52

      Must have been Leon Shcuster

  • HiJack - 2012-02-16 15:29

    So.... in one day they say they won't throw him out even if the ANC says so... and 3 hours later they distance themselves from something he said? WTF? And WTF does it matter where the video "emanates from" ? Black African politics, something unreal.

  • Jenipher - 2012-02-16 15:34

    The problem here for me is that he denied he ever made the comments when it initially came out. Now there is video footage. If he lies once about what was said, he'll obviously lie and lie again. He's a snake in the grass. Passopa wenna!

  • guyt1 - 2012-02-16 15:37

    Idiot , bigot , racist..........

  • Andrew Sheppard - 2012-02-16 15:38

    Who REALLY cares anymore? *yawn* *burp* *fart* *yawn*

      Neil - 2012-02-16 19:48

      A large part of the mindless masses care, unfortunately, and are easily fooled and BS'ed, and he is inciting them to violence with each "me-e-e-ehh" that comes out of his pie-hole.

  • Martin - 2012-02-16 15:42

    bwahahahahahahahaha, thats the greatest thing i ever read

  • MiloT77 - 2012-02-16 15:43

    The stupidity of these people is totally beyond belief. I dont actualy believe these guys know what they are doing in the slightest. And yet they still have ververent shame. - 2012-02-16 17:41

      it says everything about their followers

  • J.D. - 2012-02-16 15:45

    Malema is a champion ....of making all young black South Africans the laughing stock of the world.

      emile.marais - 2012-02-16 16:19

      J.D that comment was uncalled for. White South Africans in general have a less then reputable reputation with almost every country in the world.

      Vernon - 2012-02-16 18:38

      Don't generalize and since when are you the rest of the world??

      emile.marais - 2012-02-17 02:27

      The gist of my comment seems to have been lost on some people here. My point is, don't generalize all people of a certain age and ethnicity due to the flawed ideology of Julius Malema. That same generalization can be applied to white South Africans and our appalling treatment of other people who didn't share our culture, religion or physical appearance. Just saying...

  • Shirley - 2012-02-16 15:51

    Umm.....why distance yourselves???? I thought hr was your leeedaaa and sayviaar???? Cowardly,racists!

  • Jenipher - 2012-02-16 16:00

    Malema is slow poison. The sooner he leaves his soap box spewing hatred with his forked tongue, the better. That stupid beret on his head is something dictators seem to like to wear. He would be the biggest dictator this country every saw if he became leader of the country. Love of the people and not oneself is what's required for this country. He professes to love the people but his girth sais otherwise.

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-16 16:02

      you're right... he is slow... & he is a poison :)

  • bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-02-16 16:12

    This people are liars, yesterday they were denying that the president has uttered such racist remarks. There is nothing to investigate except to dock a person who recorded the speach.

      Tommy - 2012-02-16 16:35


  • Tshidi Sebekedi - 2012-02-16 16:12

    Ubelievable,how do u distance y'rself frm,anyway thts YL for u....

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-16 16:20

      Maybe he has a double. No, no, no not him being double. Has a

  • Francois - 2012-02-16 16:16

    Who cares?

  • Deon - 2012-02-16 16:19

    Show us the video, show us the video, show us the video. If it is true, I will have a good day cause they cannot blame the media that they were missquoted. I Like

  • Jenny - 2012-02-16 16:25

    When an idiot like Malema takes the stage one can only but wonder what bull is been fed to the uneducated mases in this country. I believe he should join another idiot like Mugabe from Zimbabawe. No wonder the people from his country are flocking to SA to committ crime and live in our fancy jails. I believe he needs to be kicked in the head and maybe one will eventually get some sence into this brainless individual

      Constance Muza - 2012-02-16 18:00

      I find your statement about Zimbabweans very ignorant & offensive. Have you checked the stats for how many foreigners, specifically Zimbabweans are in your 'fancy jails'? You quickly forget the countries that south africans fled to when times were not so great for you. We're not here to commit crimes - you guys are doing fine on your own in that department. Whilst seeking refuge, we're also filling major skills shortages in your country, possibly created by the fact that SA has retards at the driving wheel. I'm not a fan of Mugabe, but one thing he is that SA government lacks is educated. As far as I'm concerned, you're no better than Malema with that kind of xenophobic ignorance.

  • Francois - 2012-02-16 16:28

    Come on Julius it is time for another march, we are marching to Pollsmoor!!!!!

  • sefeddt - 2012-02-16 16:29

    "The ANCYL will seek legal advice on the legal recourse and will further conduct its own internal investigations on where the video emanates from," deputy president Ronald Lamola told reporters at Luthuli House in Johannesburg That's it shoot the messenger.

  • ISO - 2012-02-16 16:55

    ANCYL you are unbelievable!!! Stop giving SA a bad name!

  • Sarel Brits - 2012-02-16 16:58

    Its sweet, give the ass more rope,He was gunning for regime change in Botswana and now his regime has been changed. Kry vir jou jou blerrie clown

  • Chaapo - 2012-02-16 17:02

    Genie out of the bottle-you cannot plug it back in. Just shows what a bunch of imbeciles this lot is. There are many black lawyers in SA; why didn't Malema go to them if he is so uncomfortable with the white lawyers? It says much about the hypocrisy of this lot-slagging whites in public but clandestinely seeking their services. But it is understandable-blackness is their career given what limited skills they offer.

  • Sarel Brits - 2012-02-16 17:03

    Its sweet, give the ass more rope,He was gunning for regime change in Botswana and now his regime has been changed. Kry vir jou jou blerrie clown

  • Ally - 2012-02-16 17:33

    It should be the shortest inquiry ever held. The video "emanates" from the the meeting where Julius "addressed delegates". How much simpler can it be than that. My invoice for my million-rand consultancy and legal advise fee is in the post! Pay up forthwith -- my advice is invaluable.

  • - 2012-02-16 17:40

    he has not stolen enough money that's why he wants to get back in idiot

  • criticallyhonest - 2012-02-16 17:54

    Do not expect rationality or intelligence. It is ALL about populism!

  • Jason - 2012-02-16 18:28

    Enough already. Giving Malema more media coverage is exactly what he is after. Malema... you've been weighed and measured and found wanting. By your OWN peers. Just f*&k off now.

  • Dex - 2012-02-16 18:28

    Malema insults black lawyers by implying he can't find a competent one to represent him and that is why he is stuck with white lawyers. Malema you are just a racist who secretly wants to be a white man.

  • Fanie - 2012-02-16 18:44

    Good! The little twat has enemies in his camp.

      StarStruck - 2012-02-16 19:38

      I will not be surprised if he finds himself in a jail this time next year. Teh law is teh law. Aai he is digging himself a big black hole.

  • Geoff - 2012-02-16 18:53

    Listen Malema. The judiciary is based on very stringent legal requirements. Judges have to earn their stripes through study, experience, integrity and in line with internationally accepted practice When people want to change the judiciary, it means they are not happy with what is right or wrong, they want to manipulate the law to further their own means. Very ominous. It has happened in other Countries, much to their detriment and it looks like it is happening here.Scary stuff!

  • ed.solan - 2012-02-16 23:39

    Have to side with ancyl on this one... the video is obviously a hoax created by Nando's or somesuch organisation to discredit our Juliarse. Look at the star of the video and it becomes obvious that he bears a striking resemblance to a character in Aardman Studios Wallace and Grommit movies! Can't fool the beady little eyes of da league;)

  • brionyl.french - 2012-02-17 05:46

    I think the strong arm of the law needs to do what they do with people like this, throw the book at him!!! I think once the corruption comes out all that money and all his property should be sold and given to the people as an apology gift to the nation, pushed into education basic healthcare...

  • Tc - 2012-02-17 07:21

    These idiots are so stupid as to think that we believe their "spindoctoring" of recorded statements! By the way - those words of Malema - they refelct the true thinking of the ANC and the ANC's hatred of anything non-Black! Think of Jimmy Manyi's racist statements, supported by the ANC. Think of Mothlanthe making fun of whiteys in the USA. Think of Malema being found 'not guilty' by the ANC of bringing the ANC into disripute for saying "all whites are criminals", thus condoned by the racist ANC. The ANC is racist to the core. We non-Blacks.. beware of the ANC!

  • nadia.chotu - 2012-02-17 08:39

    Why distance themselves now...when the video has been leaked? If they had found it so offensive and so against the principles of the ANC - why did the ANCYL not take a stand at the time of the speech!? Just to save political face that is why!!! The only thing that ANCYL has illustrated thus far is that they are a bunch of opportunists.... nothing more nothing less! To those ANCYL members that are true to the founding principles of the ANC... I apologise for my comments - but it is your "leader" that has done nothing little other than line his pockets and bring your organisation into disrepute.

  • Martin - 2012-02-17 08:40

  • BuzzM - 2012-02-17 10:46

    Open comment to the ANCYL: You either stand with this clown and everything he says or disagree and get rid of him. Whilst he speaks as your president, you can't distance yourself for the things he does... You can't have your cake and eat it! YOUR CHOICE!