ANCYL hearing adjourned

2011-08-31 17:35

Johannesburg - The disciplinary hearing involving youth league leader Julius Malema and five of his colleagues has been adjourned until Friday, the ANC Youth League said on Wednesday afternoon.

"Malema is consulting lawyers inside at the moment," spokesperson Floyd Shivambu told reporters outside African National Congress headquarters Luthuli House in Johannesburg.

He said the hearings would continue at the venue on Friday.

Youth league deputy secretary general of Kenetswe Mosenogi thanked those who had gathered outside for their support.

"A lot has happened that we can't tell you about right now, due to internal matters, but we want to tell you that victory is certain."

He also thanked supporters for their behaviour on Wednesday.

"We are the future of South Africa. The future depends on us as the youth."

When he and Shivambu finished speaking the crowd dispersed.

Our champion

Earlier, ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza said the disciplinary committee would deal with each of the accused individually.

"They are in the hearing... they are to deal with each person as an individual."

ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu declined to comment on the hearing. Neither would he comment on the venue, which the ANC had initially said would be changed after Tuesday's violence by league supporters, but then decided to keep at party headquarters in Johannesburg's city centre.

The Star reported on Wednesday that Malema failed on Tuesday to get the ANC members hearing the charges to recuse themselves.

They are committee chairman Derek Hanekom, Mining Minister Susan Shabangu and Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane.

Malema supporters on Wednesday marched in the streets around Luthuli House. They whistled, blew vuvuzelas, pointed at the building and shouted "voetsek".

Some held placards reading: "Juju a profound thinker... a champion of our economic policies".

The SA Students Congress (Sasco) and the Eastern Cape ANC condemned the violence by ANC Youth League supporters on Tuesday.

"We are extremely angered by the reported sexual harassment and assault on a female journalist by these hooligans who purport to be ANCYL members," Sasco president Mbulelo Mandlana said outside Luthuli House.

"We call on the ANCYL not just to distance itself, but to act decisively against those within its ranks who committed this sexual assault... and those who trashed equipment," he said.

On Tuesday, rioters threw pieces of bricks at journalists and police officers, while women journalists were groped and insulted.

The Eastern Cape ANC "strongly condemned the regrettable acts of hooliganism".

"We are utterly dismayed by the burning of the ANC flags, t-shirts and posters bearing the face of the president. We request the NEC [national executive committee] to spare no effort in identifying these culprits and they must face the full might of our disciplinary processes," provincial spokesperson Mlibo Qhoboshiyane said in a statement.

"It is our view that those who have taken the responsibility to mobilise and bus crowds to gather outside Luthuli House - the leadership of the ANC Youth League - should also take full responsibility for the violence, criminality and ill-discipline that has accompanied these crowds."

The Congress of SA Trade Unions in Limpopo called for ANCYL officials to be disciplined.

Stop attacking

Earlier on Wednesday, supporters, including some children, held posters with the words: "Hands off our youth league president", "Juju fever", and: "Juju never said let's bomb Botswana like imperialists from Libya or Iraq".

Some wore t-shirts portraying the face of ousted president Thabo Mbeki, who was removed from office a few months after Jacob Zuma became leader of the African National Congress in December 2007.

Journalists and police in riot gear watched from behind a barbed wire barricade.

On Tuesday afternoon, Malema urged his supporters to stop attacking the media and police.

Police said their colleague, who was hit by a rock on Tuesday, received stitches in hospital and was back on duty on Wednesday.

Most businesses were open again after closing their doors on Tuesday.

Malema, Shivambu, deputy president Ronald Lamola, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Mosenogi, and treasurer general Pule Mabe face charges of bringing the ANC into disrepute and sowing divisions in ANC ranks.

This was after Malema said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and to help bring about regime change, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and undermining the "African agenda".

  • Paul - 2011-08-31 17:39

    Victory against who??????

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-31 17:45

      What a surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????? End of zuma at least, ten wives, thirty five kids and thousands of cadres! Make place for the the next one celled drain, sorry brain!!!!!!!!!

      Shrike - 2011-08-31 17:51

      South Africa has reached it's "use by date"......bitter times to come now....

      Gomez - 2011-08-31 18:02

      "We are the future of South Africa. The future depends on us as the youth." Thank you for setting such a nice hooligan example of what your idea of a future is.

      Shrike - 2011-08-31 18:04

      @Neil I agree is time to activate the exit strategy before it is too late.....

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-31 18:17

      'ANCYL hearing adjourned'..... more like dinner over folks,sushi is finished lets all go home,oh hang on,forgot to give you the stern finger Malema,ok now we can go.

  • Slapper - 2011-08-31 17:40

    What a bunch of chicken livered clowns. The way forward is a clar as day, but these guys will not do what is absolutely vitally necessary, leaving the whole thing hanging like a rotting stinking carcass.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-31 18:04

      look its a bird,no its a plane,No it my god damn dreams crashing

  • ANC-FTL - 2011-08-31 17:43

    This country's politics is one fat joke. African National Circus

      Craigr - 2011-08-31 20:03

      They left a loophole on purpose

  • Shrike - 2011-08-31 17:44

    .....and I saw hope running towards the horizon with it's ass on fire......

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-31 18:01

      that poor girl hope never stood a chance,specially when our prez is famous for taking advantage of girls

  • Flasheart - 2011-08-31 17:47

    If Malema dodges the bullet that is this hearing then there is absolutely no stopping him. Getting out of this unscathed will make him even more radical and confident. Heavy days dot com!

      Phaedioux - 2011-08-31 17:54

      In the land of the blind, he with one eye is King!

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-31 20:35

      you are 100% correct - this is the anc's only chance to get rid of this monster or at least to muzzle him. if they dont, this monster will grow into an uncontrollable dictator - this guy will make mugabe and gadafi look like christmas father (because he is more militant with less iq, and a lot more hatred).

  • Al Chemist - 2011-08-31 17:48

    Juju a profound thinker? Seriously?

      gizzy - 2011-08-31 17:54

      How can anybody without a brain think? Only the sheep would find him a thinker!

      Phaedioux - 2011-08-31 17:56

      In the land of the blind, he with one eye is King! My above comment to @Flasheart was in the wrong place!

      eh eh eh - 2011-08-31 18:06

      In the land of the sub-human, JM is king!

      Dusty - 2011-08-31 22:12

      @gizzy please don't insult the sheep :)

  • Mundu - 2011-08-31 17:50

    Either way, somebody from the ANC will lose. If the ANC gives in to the YL then its them that loses, if the YL gets what they deserve then the ANC still loses. The snake is eating it's own tail.

  • Charles - 2011-08-31 17:52

    Long Live the African National Congress Youth League Leadership Long Live.We Love you Malema and the entire leadership we love you, we are with you through nice and difficult times.We cant allow individuals to end your political career while you are ambitious about seeing Economic Freedom in this country.Those old mens their days are numbered that is why they dont care about Economic Freedom.Friday we will be there to witness victory,if they charge you,they charged us and we will render South Africa Ungorvenable.You charge our leaders you are declaring a civil war in this country to (Mantashe,Zuma and Nzimande). We are fearless and unshaken like the youth of 1976.

      ANC-FTL - 2011-08-31 17:58

      Explain to me what "economic freedom" is? What is holding you back from being successful you have everything pointing your way yet you still complain. Tell us what you think Malema can do for this country besides destroy it? Why rely on other for success when you can do it by yourself? Enlighten us... please

      Shrike - 2011-08-31 18:01

      It seems that 'common sense' has already emigrated......wisdom has fled.......knowledge has dissipated.......

      Phaedioux - 2011-08-31 18:03

      Wait until you face your first rubber bullet - we will then see how fearless and unshaken you are! How is it possible for you to make something you don't understand unworkable (i.e. 'ungovernable')?

      Reason - 2011-08-31 18:04

      I'm sure he'll be pleased to hear because he is going to be putting you lot through the most difficult times you have ever seen, but he needs your blind support to do it. If you're with him no matter how it affects you get ready to be one of the millions of sacrificial lambs at the altar you have built to Malema. - 2011-08-31 18:04

      Effen troll, shutup

      Dmitri - 2011-08-31 18:10

      @Phaedioux - maybe if we replaced the rubber rounds with FMJs????

      Perplexed24 - 2011-08-31 18:12

      So wait...let me get this right...Your youth league leaders(-How OLD are they again? LOL malamea a 'youth')...can do no wrong? surely if they have done wrong they CAN be charged?by your logic are you saying if he is found guilty of corruption(RE- the other investigations) that he can't be charged either? So in other words you don't accept the laws of South Africa as well as the laws of your own party? SOUND logic!! Threatening civil war- you must be SOoo proud of yourself!

      Shrike - 2011-08-31 18:23

      @Charles...... Don't worry, this country will be ungovernable when the tax revenue stops flowing because the economy has collapsed..... The mining industry will grind to a halt when the Multinationals get kicked out and the educated part of South Africa has left the country....... No doubt the ANC fat cats will not suffer, but the ordinary people will..... Fear that!!!!

      Drewka - 2011-08-31 18:23

      Don't forget that there's a certain group of people that's tired of the sheet you and your cockroach leader spews. And if its civil war you want, that is what your gona get my little friend. Hope you and your 99 friends from the league are very fearless and prepared.

      darkwing - 2011-08-31 18:27

      Have you noticed that people like Charles never answer back? Don't even try to engage them in debate. They are completely blind. They lay an egg and don't come back to hatch it.

      So What If.. - 2011-08-31 19:54

      Charles has obviously no idea what economic freedom is. As usual, mad-lema is creating expectations between those (like Charles) that cannot think for themselves. What a dissapointment reality would be once they wake up!

      John - 2011-08-31 20:37

      It's very sad how blindly you follow Malema, you are like sheep with no constructive thought of your own.Everything on his agenda is for the benefit of himself and the fat cats that are financing him. They don't care about the majority in South Africa, only making themselves wealthier at all of your expense. Nationalisation for one is on the agenda so that the Government will pay out all of JuJu's mine owning BEE buddies who have racked up debt and now with nationalisation will get another govenment bail out. No benefit to the poor here!

      Vuzi - 2011-09-01 00:07

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      Travis Vermaak - 2011-09-01 11:50

      This must be the guy Juju is sharing his braincell with

  • ErrolNdevu - 2011-08-31 17:52

    where is ron jeremy the porn hooligan?

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-31 18:08

      where is your brain?...woops sorry,forgot you were born without one.

      So What If.. - 2011-08-31 19:56

      How Boss, I support the leader'sheep' from the ANCYL...

  • Vishal - 2011-08-31 17:55

    Freaking retards

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-31 18:19

      would rather be ruled by freaking retards than by this bunch

  • X-Ray - 2011-08-31 18:06

    There must be I think, a lot of black people that are ashamed as I am, of these hooligans. It was all over the world news yesterday. ANCYL, your are one big disgrace of this nation of ours. And you want to rule this country one day? Mandela once said that Africa is seen as the pestilences of the world and I live in Africa.

      Phaedioux - 2011-08-31 18:17

      If you are not one of those hooligans, you are entitled to be disappointed/ashamed - in fact you should hold your head up high and exalt in the fact that you are not 'one of them'! I am not a black person, with the result that I am not ashamed - I am disgusted!

  • soppy - 2011-08-31 18:09

    Go JuJu go. All the best. Fight the good fight.

      Phaedioux - 2011-08-31 18:13

      You mean he should kick a man in the 'nether' region when he is down? That to you would seem to be a good fight!

  • motsokwi - 2011-08-31 18:10

    Whites are hyper-salivating for Malema to be axed and the youth to start rioting out of control.This won't be risked fellows, for your own safety.Malema will remain and the investigations for corruption will continue.

  • edalsg - 2011-08-31 18:11

    A race to the bottom ---Youth or Elders --either way this country is Fooked like all of Africa ---once a savage , always a savage.

  • Jackman - 2011-08-31 18:16

    I've heard so many people say SA will never end up wrecked like the rest of Africa by these intelligent wops. How wrong they are. It's on your doorstep. Most people don't understand their advanced form of retarded arrogance. Wake up SA!

  • BnQE - 2011-08-31 18:19

    The Young Lion ROARS ... There is turmoil in the Animal Kingdom ... ZumZum thought by the time he's back all is over - it's only starting ... Julius made sure of that ... and the crowds no longer charge 'Shot The Boer' - the enemy has change so Julius point's out - the fight begins ...

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-31 18:34

    If the ANC doesn't ban Malema then I don't know.

  • Scamatoon - 2011-08-31 18:45

    Does (This was after Malema said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and to help bring about regime change, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and undermining the "African agenda".) have to be on every article?

  • Phillippus - 2011-08-31 18:50

    Julius Malema is talking about a future for the youth! I just want to know is that why the older white people are dying to make space for the young people! I'm 61 and sit in fear every day of my life and up until today I never took a cent from a black and he the leader of the youth are creating fear under the older people! First they ask us to hand our weapons in lucky I never had any but now we have to look at a man who don't give us any leg to stand on!

  • pop101 - 2011-08-31 18:59

    Can somebody from the ANCYL explain to me what is meant by African Agenda, because no matter what it is, I can show you probably 50 African Countries where it failed?

      Reppie - 2011-08-31 21:29

      Anything pro-black and anti-white.

  • Mandla - 2011-08-31 19:00

    Conflict of interest,Susan Chabangu and Derek Hanekom con not reside over the case involving julias Malema and his comrades given the fact that they have been on loggerheads over the issues raised by the ANCYL. a fare trail is needed in this case not that people are bent to silence other people for their personal gains.

  • Jantjieman - 2011-08-31 19:16

    If these morons are the "future of South Africa" we're in deep sh$t

  • Nyorish - 2011-08-31 21:04

    That will be great. We must'nt forget is not all about Juju attacking botswana. Some poeple are very stupid. This is all about Malema mentioning the name of the former President Cde Mbeki. Then that has brought anger to JZ and he could take that Juju has reliazed that Cde Mbeki is the best President Ever. Zuma and Malume Gwede are using the innocent Cde to Discipline Our future Prez. Watch the space Zuma might win now but what will come to him wont stand for it, he will even go to exile without notification.

  • Dasarath Harilal - 2011-08-31 21:48

    its do or die for the anc. get rid of J. M. now or suffer later. the world is watching. show no fear.

  • clifford julies - 2011-08-31 23:37

    I am a strong condemner of violence and abuse and agree with the sentiments to discpline those that make themselves guilty of such action. However i am a strong supporter of Malema and think that he is the only one that speak sense to the issues that face South Africa. We will remain poor and depend on this so called investers (foreign capital) if we do not liberate our black soul from this dependency on the imperialist and western world.

  • Theo - 2011-09-01 09:31

    What is the commen factor Malema, Gaddafi , Saddam Hussein , Mugabe , Charles Taylor, Kim Jong II and , and ,and, They all live in extreme luxury set up by their gangster friends and abuse of power and protected by private gangsters with guns, underground bunkers, big cars ext . I am sure Malema allowed for some type of bunker in his new house. Eventually they will all fall with a bang sooner or later. This is called Banana republic leader in training JZ STOP THIS MAN NOW PLEASE !!!!!

  • Travis Vermaak - 2011-09-01 11:42

    Definition of "march" in South Africa - Burn tires, destroy buses, trash the city, throw rocks, assault police, empty dustbins in the road, general chaos, behave like an animal. If their is going to be a march, prepare for a riot!

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