ANCYL hits out at Zuma

2012-03-16 14:41

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma has brought the integrity of the African National Congress's disciplinary process into question, the party's youth league said on Friday.

"President Zuma's proclamation that the ANC Youth League will have to have a new president is a premature expulsion of ANCYL president [Julius Malema] even before the national disciplinary committee of appeals could listen to evidence on whether the sanction of the NDC [national disciplinary committee] is sound," the league said in a statement.

Zuma earlier told a breakfast briefing in Port Elizabeth: "Once the process of disciplinary procedures has been concluded there will not be anything else to do thereafter - the youth league will have to move forward."

He also said that while the appeal process was still underway, at the end of the day a conclusion had been drawn.

The league retorted: "ANC president Zuma's utterances are not only shocking, but undermine the ANC disciplinary process, the integrity and fairness of which is already under question."

It said as president of the party, Zuma was unduly influencing the members the committee to come to a conclusion.

"In light of the president's utterances, the ANCYL will consult with relevant structures... to determine whether we should go ahead with the ... appeal process when the president of the ANC has already announced its outcomes."

Malema is currently appealing against his expulsion from the ANC after its national disciplinary committee found him guilty of sowing divisions in the party and bringing it into disrepute.

  • Peter - 2012-03-16 14:48

    Hmmmmmm ..... "Conclusions drawn" is not the same as "Outcomes determined". BUT I am happy they are at one another's throats! Let the ANC rip itself apart because of this issue .....

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-16 14:57

      ANC internal politics wont have a negative effect on it's votes come elections in 2014. The party is bigger than both Malema and Zuma, they can do whatever they want to do to each other, Im voting for the ANC as an organisation, Im not voting for individuals.

      Peter - 2012-03-16 15:00

      And in other news ...... A dusty road leads to the village of Wedza, where veterans of Zimbabwe's liberation war eke out a meagre living on their farm cooperative, which after a promising start now brings only despair ---- Hmmmmm ---- Do we REALLY want the ANC in power where they are pandering to non-agriculturally trained MK Vets and want to take away commercial farms and give to them? Not me.

      Peter - 2012-03-16 15:04

      Hmmmmm ---- do we really want a party in power who is pandering to the MK vets by promising commercial farms for free? We will all go hungry. As reported in other news ---- "A dusty road leads to the village of Wedza, where veterans of Zimbabwe's liberation war eke out a meagre living on their farm cooperative, which after a promising start now brings only despair." Is this such a rosy and attractive future? I think not.

      Jono - 2012-03-16 15:08

      You can vote for anc, by all means! but then u are voting to live in the same shack, same issues and no future! good luck! DA for PRESIDENT

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-16 15:28

      Jono, you're entitled to your own opinion, even if it’s stupid.

      Nigel - 2012-03-16 15:39

      @ Simnikiwe, BAAAAAAHHAAAA, Indlovu

      willie.uys - 2012-03-16 15:50

      There could however be colateral damage and the flak may also hit innocent bystanders.

      Andriaan - 2012-03-16 18:23

      @ Pythagoras Listin "it", you are living in a dream world. Plenty of us will stay. You wana leave, go. Crap is you are still here and venting so my bet is you ain't going nowhere. As for the sick bit.... go get some brooklax, that shoud solve your problem coz you are clearly fulla "it"

  • Thoka - 2012-03-16 14:49

    wara wara yada yada. agggaaarh shame

  • Jaco - 2012-03-16 14:51

    Shame poor Zuma making enemies left and right. Wonder if we'll notice this at the polls.

      Grant - 2012-03-16 19:37

      Just fine... His idiot voters would still vote for him if he beat them unconscious every day. They are incapable of independent thought!

  • etienne.vanrooyen - 2012-03-16 14:53

    I hope it is good riddance...

      Adam - 2012-03-17 13:32

      Shame, the poor little rich boy cant step down.

  • JasonEye - 2012-03-16 14:58

    And still your children back chat Mr President!

  • John - 2012-03-16 14:59

    When you are in a sea of trouble with no life saving device, you will cling to any piece of straw to keep you afloat. You can hear the desperation in their arguments. All I can say, sink or swim, and it looks like you are sinking.

      Juan - 2012-03-16 16:57

      Yip malema and his pals are going down like the Titanic

  • Louisa - 2012-03-16 15:03

    Zuma you're clearly sufferng from Dementia. How can you turn your back to the very same people who propelled you into power. What happened to thShak family. Do you thnk they are happy that youu deserted them and find new frends in Guptas. Vavi has seen clearly that you are just there to enrch yoursel and your family and he s not supportng you come mangaung. your puppets blade and S'dumo we know they are not favoured by the massess. your clearly ggng your own grave. Should have learnt rom Mr. Mbek.

  • Meryl - 2012-03-16 15:03

    I think Zuma said what he did on purpose so that the ANCYL can hold up exactly the arguement they are. The NDC may have to start again. My conspiracy theory for the day

  • calliedj - 2012-03-16 15:08

    Was it not Juliaaass himself who said "We will make Zuma president"? Sounds a bit like premature election don't ya think?

      Gerhard Grobler - 2012-03-16 15:20

      Premature election..... Premature expulsion..... Premature rejection..... Premature education..... Premature detonation.....

      Johnny - 2012-03-16 15:41

      Premature ejaculation.....

  • Shirley - 2012-03-16 15:12

    Q!uiet frankly-WHO CARES!!!! The Mickey mouse club!

  • Gerhard Grobler - 2012-03-16 15:13

    I can wait for the Zuma vs Malema thing to get personal..!!!

      Gerhard Grobler - 2012-03-16 15:13


      bernpm - 2012-03-16 15:26

      for it to get personal, you need real personalities.

      Mike - 2012-03-16 15:27

      Its already personal,remember the Limpopo council where Malema mocke Zuma by a sign of a shower head.I am just happy that this organization is tearing itself apart with all these internal fightings.

  • Mashudu - 2012-03-16 15:15

    It's Far from over.

      Glyn - 2012-03-16 15:24

      The anc "fight for the trough" is ON!

      Deon - 2012-03-16 16:20

      It is over for Malema. His ANCYL "friends" are making sure of it. It is all about power.

  • Ndabenhle - 2012-03-16 15:19

    ANC will win the elections because the is no worthy opposition in this country.

      bernpm - 2012-03-16 15:27

      ...might just rise out of the ANC ashes.

      Nigel - 2012-03-16 15:37

      & that makes you happy, Indlovu

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-16 16:25

      Ndabenhle, you would rather continue to vote for a non performing party, than see the improvements that the DA are capable of producing in the seats they have won. It's the colour thing..Helen ZILLE is white so because she is you'll never vote DA...but have you not noticed fortunately, more and more blacks,coloureds,indians are joining the DA. Why do you think they are leaving the ANC?

      Grant - 2012-03-16 19:41

      ...or because there arent enough worthy voters! Too many idiots still following...

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:03

      Ndabenhle woyena lo stupeeed

      Phil - 2012-03-19 14:38

      you know whats funny 60% of the anc voters cant read or write or know what the word economic freedom means,instead they milk the taxpayer and the country dry.

  • Maxwell - 2012-03-16 15:21

    @ Pythagoras- keep on praying until Jesus come back.

  • Piet - 2012-03-16 15:24

    Go and suck a dummy with the news24 editors who delete comments.....

  • sizwe - 2012-03-16 15:25

    These youth leaguers need to SIT down and STFU sometimes... What did they think they were doing when singing shower songs? Was that not undermining? The natives are just a bunch of kids that should not have the ability to summons the press to speak their ish in out ears... Enough with the youth league alread

      Grant - 2012-03-16 19:43

      When trying to understand them, never use the word "think". You said "What did they THINK they were doing" - and therein lies your problem. ;)

  • Itumeleng Thuglife Tshatiwa - 2012-03-16 15:26

    Zuma implicated himself...

      Amused - 2012-03-16 15:36

      I am not sure that is the case. Malema has has his appeal against a 5 year suspension turned down. It was then upgraded to an expulsion, which is now what he is appealing. Therefore, if he wins, he is suspended for 5 years, if he loses he is expelled. Either way, the ANCYL need a new leader and Zume is right. That said, not the cleverest thing Zuma ever did .....

  • Theresa - 2012-03-16 15:27

    Watch....soon Zuma will be gone ..The Lord said he has put a hook in his mouth and will remove him it was first Malema that he has removed watch ,watch , The word of the Lord does not return void ...this barrage of stuff comming will be as a house of cards that falls...mmmmm

      JasonEye - 2012-03-16 17:03

      When did the lord say this???? I must have missed that memo!

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:06

      when Jesus comes all these demons will dissappear

  • Nigel - 2012-03-16 15:29

    next story please!!

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-03-16 15:33

    To the ANCYL ,if one's will does not previal then one should submit to the alternative. as the saying goes,if the mountain does not come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain .

  • Andrew Worrall - 2012-03-16 15:33

    Ok. Yawn...when there is a funeral, people normally wear sunglasses, do you think blind people take theirs off? Do you know where I can get a decaffeinated coffee table?

  • Nigel - 2012-03-16 15:36

    These fools are braindead, even if the appeal is successful & he is not expelled, he will be suspended, so either way the ANCYL needs to find a new "leader". Talk about stupid dumb idiots !!!!!!

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-03-16 15:38

    good mr zuma you doing what you supose to do for south africa its about time for a new ancyl president billions was lost because of malema foreign investment is whats gonna drive south africa into the future

  • Adrian Marais - 2012-03-16 15:39

    I wonder if malema will make a decent car gaurd?

  • Simon - 2012-03-16 15:42

    Zuma's comment doesn't undermine the process at all. Malema is only appealing the outcome of the appeal not the actual charges. ANCYL clearly doesn't understand what they appealing for. Maybe he will be allowed to be a member of the ANC but there is no doubt that his suspension is final.

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-03-16 15:46

    Here is something for you to think about. The ANC is like an Aids-victim who denies the existance of the disease coursing through it`s veins. So it is inevitable it will die - eventually imploding from corruption, nepotism, greed and in-fighting. The DA is a remnant of white SA with many a black man not being able to decide wether they are wolves in sheep`s clothes or the real Mcoy as an alternative to their ANC. Let`s just say Helen Zille is removed as DA leader later this year. And her and her executive is replaced by progressive, BLACK leaders and the name changed to the African Democratic Alliance...would you vote for them ? Offcourse you would. Goodbye ANC. Hello multi-party state.

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:11

      should call it SA Democrats

  • Mtizozo - 2012-03-16 15:49

    Malema is appealing the expulsion, if he wins; suspension verdict will kick in, if he appeals that and min, the previous suspensions will kick in, so thanks Mr Honorable President. This is clear, The ANCYL must move on and get the new president,, They must Stop causing the divisions in the movement that is loved by all South African and the World

      Desmond - 2012-03-16 16:03

      You dellusional. ANC is not "loved by all South African and the World"

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:13

      ANC is going to be History

      Ken - 2012-03-17 17:25

      You love politicians? How sick can you get

  • Paul - 2012-03-16 15:54

    BUNCH OF MORONS!!! The disciplinary process is finished already!!Found to be guilty!!!!! HOW F$@$#ing STUPID CAN YOU BE. The appeal is still in play but that does not exonerate Malema and his troop of fools. He is appealing his expulsion not the outcome. The YOUTH LEAGUE IS EXACTLY THAT JUVENILE. Seriously these are the type of idiots that when you ask them what kind of fool do you take me for. They reply "I dont know how many kinds are there? Well seemingly more than I thought.

  • Desmond - 2012-03-16 15:57

    Sob Sob. Good riddance.

  • Skhulu - 2012-03-16 15:58

    paythagoras just leave what u waiting for. infact u are an allien here!!!

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:16

      @ skhulu, do you understand the theorem of pythagoras

  • Winifred - 2012-03-16 16:01


  • Peter - 2012-03-16 16:06

    Malema made 1 mistake. He decided not to back the thief and band of crooks. The head thief (JZ) could not allow this as a possible hiccup to his control of the purse strings and all the favours he still owes his merry band. So Goodbye Julie and another term of theft, corruption, criminals being pardoned, higher taxes (to line the pockets). Imagine how much will go missing in his last year of office.

  • castro.anzani - 2012-03-16 16:06

    Zuma is stupid. Period!!

      Deon - 2012-03-16 16:24

      He may be stupid but is taking his enemies out one by one.

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:26

      You are right stupid periods

  • Peter - 2012-03-16 16:14

    Interesting that everyone is against Big Julie. What about the many corrupt (found guilty) "comrades" in all forms of ANC governing bodies that have lost their jobs but keep their membership to the ANC. I would have thought that being found guilty of corruption, theft etc would constitute "bringing the party into disrepute" more than the utterances of an underling. Is corruption not sowing division in the party?? If not all is doomed.

  • James - 2012-03-16 16:57

    2019 here we come

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:20

      @ James 2019, but I thought the next election is going to be in 2014

  • abner.malema - 2012-03-16 16:58

    The ANC is bigger than individual. it liberated blacks from the colonisers for that those who were oppresed will keep on voting for it. Irrespective of colonised funded media opionions and those who benefited from apartheid

      Shirley - 2012-03-16 17:50

      Yawn-another comment from lalaland!

      Balan - 2012-03-17 15:22

      you look like you are falling of to sleep

  • Thorsten Wach - 2012-03-16 20:34

    i like this zoo

  • Emmanuel - 2012-03-16 23:35

    zuma is useless

  • Mkhulu - 2012-03-17 16:02

    what the president of ANC is trying to teach the ANCYL is to bring another child that would keept the opposition newspapers tv ect busy while the ANC leadership carrys on the national duties for the poor poeple. the ANC youth leadership must try to understand the enemies of ANC AND NOT TO BRING THOSE enemies within the party ANC they would always face challanges if they do SO in future ANC is the oldest party in the region think youth 2011-2012 don"t be infritrated easly weak interligence dangerous malema wakeup

  • Patty - 2012-03-17 17:43

    Why does the ANC need a youth League?

  • Malusi Khanyile - 2012-03-18 09:52

    Whether the appeals process continues or not i agree with the NDC & the JZ. Julius Malema bit off far more than he could chew. He with the help of some ANCYL members, started to see himself bigger than our organisation and was cut down to size. He was going to be responsible for dividing the party. Personally i like JUJU but enough is enough!

  • Abram - 2012-03-19 15:04

    Let the current ANC tell us that, in this movement we are no longer allowed to talk about previous leaders like Mandela. The charges that are to get Malema suspended from the party, are in my view not just only a threat to internal democracy within the ANC, they are also a hindrance to the ANCYL, as they weaken the ability of the league to be part of socioeconomic and sociopolitical dialogue that affects us all. In essence, one can conclude that the ANCYL is no longer allowed to air its views on contentious issues of governance, policy and international relations because they risk being reprimanded and given the harshest sentence of facing the exit door from the organisation

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