ANCYL lashes out at ex-JSE boss

2012-10-18 20:57

Johannesburg - The ANCYL criticised former JSE CEO Russell Loubser's comments about the organisation on Thursday, and said he was uninformed.

"Mr Loubser is an uninformed and reckless loudhailer of the interests of white monopoly capital," the African National Congress Youth League said in a statement.

"He has... spoken of things he knows nothing of and it astounds the mind that in 2012 the ANCYL would be called upon to account for its views by previously and still advantaged boys of white privilege."

On Wednesday, Loubser asked why no leaders were guiding ANCYL members.

"Today's ANC Youth League is not the ANC Youth League of Nelson Mandela, Walter Sisulu, Govan Mbeki, Oliver Tambo and the like," he told students at the University of the Witwatersrand, in Johannesburg.

"The ANC Youth League... today is a disgrace and embarrassment."

It was also "a destroyer of confidence".

"You won't hear one idea from the ANC Youth League on how to create wealth, value, but you will hear constantly how to redistribute wealth," he said.

The ANCYL said Loubser's comment that the call for nationalisation was "brainless talk" was an insult to the league.

"Loubser would do himself good to seek to understand the struggles of the people before spewing reckless rhetoric, thinking that attacking the ANCYL is a national sport," it said.

Suspended ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said Loubser had taken part in "intellectual hooliganism".

"This representative of white monopoly capital, a racist and intellectual dwarf, chose to throw insults on the leadership of the ANC Youth League without substantially responding to [its] profound and proficient policy positions," Shivambu said in a statement.

Mandela, Sisulu, Mbeki and Tambo, who Loubser tried to disassociate from the ANCYL of today were some of the biggest proponents of the Freedom Charter, which called for the nationalisation of the mines.

"These leaders proclaimed nationalisation of mines as policy of the ANC, and have handed the baton to us to continue with the struggle for economic freedom, because they achieved political freedom in their lifetime," he said.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-18 21:06

    Observation and confirmation. What more is needed?

  • alfred.neumann.142 - 2012-10-18 21:10

    "white monopoly", "white privilege", "white supremacy" All I hear is a bunch of clowns deflecting the issue with their racecards. As usual. No attempt at all to argue the actual issue that the current ANCYL doesn't do anything at all to create wealth or value in themselves but has a million and one ideas on how to take it from others. Marauding bunch of useless pukes. If you really had the best interests of SA at heart you'd all have hara-kiri'ed yourselves years ago.

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-18 21:14

      Superb comment. Wonder if they would understand it?

      SaintBruce - 2012-10-18 21:44

      I have a ceremonial sword I can lend the ANCYL leadership to effect their graceful exit.....

  • Edraine Mentor - 2012-10-18 21:11

    Typical ANCYL mentality..Truth hurts, instead of at least attempting2prove the guy wrong they act in the exact manner that the guy is portraying them..True disgrace 2 former leaders..but then again the whole ANC is..IMHO

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-18 21:13

    Loubser jou ou doring!!

  • PointBlank - 2012-10-18 21:14

    wahahaha.. And they react exactly how they were described as, racist and retarded.

  • nicoleen.traut - 2012-10-18 21:14

    Intellectual Dwarf........ Ha ha ha ha ! What a MORON ! Another example of the SA Schooling systems "success". Oh wait, I forgot, he didnt go. Good Lord, these idiots will force the country back to the stone age, and then blame.....well everybody else....and of course capitalism, white people, the West (Am I forgetting someone ?). I just wish the powers that be will wake up and rid the country of this pestilence called the ANCYL.

  • David Steyn - 2012-10-18 21:15

    These people make the old National Party look like beginners when it comes to racism. Everything in their lives revolves around white. They are definately suffering from an inferiority complex and should go and ask a sangoma for some help.

      jim.dickson2 - 2012-10-19 07:34

      No, They might kill another rabbit!

  • bheka.huwi - 2012-10-18 21:15

    In the new south africa there is alot of racism and hate, I am 15 years old I never saw Apartheid, But my parents really hates white people I dont care about the skin color of humans. I am in love with this white boy but then again my parents will kill me if I brougth a colonist home as they will call him. I see white children being beaten in school in racist attacts yet the teacher dont care even laughing. Ironically my education and the teaches salary is paid by white taxpayers.

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-10-18 21:34

      Bheka please do me a favour read an article written by Lerato Mannya titled \A born free generation held captive\ you will find it interesting and she is interesting!!! You can find it on opinions on news24 as well. Good luck with your future and never stop learning!!

      johann.enslin.9 - 2012-10-18 21:40

      Ar both of you...there are good people out there, thank you.

      alfred.neumann.142 - 2012-10-19 00:12

      Bheka, if your parents lived through apartheid I can understand why they might hate whites. Ironically most of the older black people I've come across have less hard feelings about it than the younger ones but these Yoof Leeg fools have never seen a day of oppression in their miserable lives yet they're the ones constantly beating the apartheid drum and blaming it for everything from their own incompetence and self entitlement to their propensity for chaos and threats of violence.

  • shane.asselbergs - 2012-10-18 21:15

    These ANCYL guys never cease to amaze me at how much they like to advertise their complete and utter lack of intelligence and understanding.

  • Sammy Willow - 2012-10-18 21:15

    i am living in holland and every day i read of the comments of malema and his boyfriends, and i am so glad to be away from all of the bs in sa, even the weather is a worthy sacrifice

  • gerhard.petzer - 2012-10-18 21:16

    Every time a leader"laugh" of ANCYL opens their mouth, their lack of intelligents shows! They would do better to keep quite and rather let us wonder about how stupid they are, than open their mouths, and we know for sure!

  • bee.deekay - 2012-10-18 21:16

    The failed ancyl only know whats done in 3rd world africa, not in the rest of the 1st world. Africa is run by thugs and warlords, corrupt and criminal and their sheepish followers and worshippers, thats why its in the pathetic condition that it is. The ancyl should go back to their caves.

  • hans.himmler.7 - 2012-10-18 21:17

    Just a indication of the total chaotic and useless cancer of a corrupt parasite AID ridden government we have. Too scared ot take on Zille, and then it's left up to the JSE to put the ANCYL on their place and/or show some balls to the world to increase trust / confidence in the country. Can the middle class blacks not see what the ANC is doing to the country? When will they wake up and vote for the DA?

      hans.himmler.7 - 2012-10-18 21:50

      It's not about a racist view, it's about an educated vote.

  • thulanit3 - 2012-10-18 21:20

    Shivambu must shut up, he is not in the ANCYL.

      RudiErnst - 2012-10-18 21:37

      I thought it was very interesting to read the statement, purportedly on behalf of the EFF, in which Shivambu repeatedly refers to the ANCYL as "we". I thought he and Malema were not allowed to represent any ANC structures?

  • pierre.walt - 2012-10-18 21:21

    You ANCYL knows bugger all and will always play the racism card. Loubser speaks true and you do not want to hear it. He has more brains than all of you together.

      kenneth.hlabane.5 - 2012-10-18 21:55

      Brains 4 what??coz ancyl is not sport, were he can run his marathon!

  • josie.russell.10 - 2012-10-18 21:24

    Do any of these youth league people have jobs? What level of education do they have? I see they don't produce anything or contribute to this nation of ours - they just want it handed on a plate. Gravy train mentality.

  • aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-10-18 21:25

    Its time to face the music....this was nothing but the truth.

  • johan.westhuizen - 2012-10-18 21:28

    Why is it that the ANCYL call it economic freedom, it should be called economic independence , oh wait it is like the word apartheid that was made up by 2 words , apart + hate , now the ANCYL uses freedom, Free + Dom. Wake up!!!!!!!!!

  • Neil Alberts - 2012-10-18 21:30

    you are so right shivambu, the youth league is not a sport because idiocy and a joke cannot be classified as sport u twat!

  • michael.freeman.16752 - 2012-10-18 21:31

    Ban the ANCYL. They are all idiots like their parents.(ANC)

  • madelein.delange2 - 2012-10-18 21:33

    Agge shame, and you can not get through a single speech without stirring the "white" pot. You guys should really take a long hard introspective look. This "I want, therefore I'll take" mentality is absolutely pathetic. Where are the jobs you created? You can not create wealth by dividing it, you can only create wealth by creating it. Do something constructive, do not admit that you are incapable by taking what is allready there. Be ashamed, be very ashamed.

      bee.deekay - 2012-10-18 21:39

      The anc and co-thugs can't(and they know it) create economic stability/growth. They're marauders, nothing else. They don't care. They know their worshippers aren't even aware of all that 'economic prosperity' stuff. However, what their sheep 'do' understand is 'give me', 'mine', take', and the looters will be happy to oblige. They don't care how or where it comes from, as long as they get it.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-10-18 21:39

    The ANCYL consists of a bunch of uneducated idiots. How can their opinions be compared to an educated man.

  • Gert van Coller - 2012-10-18 21:43

    I will be praying for you, children, 'cause you need it

  • kelly.oneill.125 - 2012-10-18 21:43

    I'm glad I'm not represented by the ANCYL, why? Because they speak on behalf of themselves, not being able to lead by example, when you lead, you serve, and if you do not serve, you follow! What exactly are they following? The are lead by a minority of corrupt government officials who do not take responsibility for their actions! Eish its not my fault, its the next guys problem I already got my golden handshake from the minority tax paying citizens in ZA!! Get real ANCYL, your struggle is education not economic reform umongst hard working citizens who subsidise your corrupt government

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-18 21:48

    Do want to insult, but these ANYL guys are IDIOTS, Julius trained them well. And do not ever compare yourself to the ANCYL of years gone by you are not close to them!

  • markus.esterhuyse - 2012-10-18 21:50

    Apparently Julias Malema found out about all the bbm jokes about him going around :| When asked what he's going to do about it he demanded all to be sent to him he can delete them =))X_X

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-18 21:59

      The deep-seated cause of Malema's hate for whites: Young Juju goes into the kitchen where his mother is baking. He puts his hands in the flour and covers his head with it. He says: "Look mamma, I am a white boy!" His mother slaps him hard across the face and says: "Juju, go show your uncle what you've done!!" So he does, and his uncle slaps him too. His granny happens to be right next to his uncle and she slaps him vehemently in disgust. Then Juju's mom says: "Did you learn something from all this? The poor little Juju shakes his head, crying and says: "I did. I've only been a white boy for 5 minutes and I'm already hated by you blacks!"

  • deon.meiring - 2012-10-18 21:51

    ANCYL...word groot!

  • madelein.delange2 - 2012-10-18 21:52

    Maybe the ANCYL suffers from diarrhea of the mouth, they certainly suffer from constipation of real constructive ideas?

  • bnbclub - 2012-10-18 22:04

    They sound like a stuck record, the whites are raaacissssttt....get over yourselves! BUNCH OF IDIOTS...

  • Fox Trixter - 2012-10-18 22:09

    Thank you Floyd, tell that intellectual dwarf to shut up or go to Australia. This is our Country! viva! Lol

      Cameron - 2012-10-18 23:38

      That you gonna run into the ground. Viva mamparras Viva

  • ian.solomon.925 - 2012-10-18 22:09

    It's always a race issue with these guys!!! So pathetic! ANCYL IS A DISGRACE AND AN EMBARRASSMENT! Great men of the past like Mandela, Sisulu and Tambo are out to shame with the ramblings a of the inferior minded megalomaniac

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-18 22:10

    Philistines, creators of poverty, festering sores - a blight on South Africa.

  • thozi - 2012-10-18 22:14

    The sad thing about what Mr Loubser has said about the ANCYL is that it is 100% correct. The worst thing though, is that 90% of poor, unfotunate and uneducated masses, think the ANCYL is their saviour. The suicidal thing is that most of those believing in the ANCYL propaganda and are waiting for their "economic freedom", are lazy, arrogant, bigots who live in a "world of rabbits".

  • Luyanda - 2012-10-18 22:17

    Well put Russell!

  • Rodney Moodley - 2012-10-18 22:17


  • joe.mangena.1 - 2012-10-18 22:25

    These beneficiaries of past regime should stop talking about the YL of Mandela

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-10-19 00:50

      The YL of Mandela doesn't exist any died a long long time ago...

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-10-18 22:31

    truth hurts whether you accept it or not.

  • dan.ledwaba.5 - 2012-10-18 23:35

    It is interesting how ancyl can badmouth a guy that has worked and achieved something in his life, i.e JSE boss. What has those guys in ancyl achieved?

  • ryan.sclanders - 2012-10-18 23:42

    Funny. All I read of Mr Loubser was his opinion of an organization and its ideas of today in comparison to leaders of the past. Nowhere does he mention "black people" or racism. Does the ANCYL have to nothing better to respond with e.g: No Mr Loubser, your comments are unfounded. We do have ideas to help South African people to create wealth. These are some of our ideas... They are supposed to lead the youth with the idea of common goal for the future of the whole country. Instead there response just confirms what Mr Loubser had to say. They actually DONT have any ideas and as an organization they are dis-functional in helping there own constituents. Other than to work the the people up and insight hate amongst the different races. Lastly, "Mr Loubser is an uninformed" - Well inform us. What ideas do you have to help your fellow South African other that redistribution of wealth and crying that someone is a racist? After thought (Not that this should make a difference): How would the ANCYL responded if a black person, concerned about his or her future, had have commented in the same way?

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-10-19 00:52

      Ryan, That black person would be called a coconut!!!! Sad but true..

  • aeola - 2012-10-18 23:49

    And we all miss the smiling Chinese, funding the nationalisation struggle to get there hands on our mines.

  • Luyanda - 2012-10-19 01:10

    Well-said Russell Loubser!!! We can't always DEMAND DEMAND DEMAND like helpless babies. I have made many people rich with my stolen ideas eg. the \PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN\ term {check APRIL 1996 True Love magazine's Letter-of-the-Month Winning Article,titled:-'Be Proud South Africa!'},SABC 3 Business News' 13:00 Time Slot,\Bank Doors\ at Post Offices nation-wide etc. are my ideas,but NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED let alone being COMPENSATED for them. YET,I'm NOT DEMANDING as my Consolation is that JOBS were created and I contribute/d to this country's Economic Development.

  • Luyanda - 2012-10-19 01:10

    Well-said Russell Loubser!!! We can't always DEMAND DEMAND DEMAND like helpless babies. I have made many people rich with my stolen ideas eg. the \PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN\ term {check APRIL 1996 True Love magazine's Letter-of-the-Month Winning Article,titled:-'Be Proud South Africa!'},SABC 3 Business News' 13:00 Time Slot,\Bank Doors\ at Post Offices nation-wide etc. are my ideas,but NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED let alone being COMPENSATED for them. YET,I'm NOT DEMANDING as my Consolation is that JOBS were created and I contribute/d to this country's Economic Development.

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-10-19 01:23

    As I said earlier......truth is a bitter pill to swallow, '94 came a bit too early for most black africans to comprehend the true value of democracy. Those(blacks) in the know actually exploit the plight of the majority to advance their selfish intrests.......economic freedom is a geniune call, but the ex JSE boss is right about this redistribution policy that seems to be the talk of the day. But the problem is that white people got advantaged due to an unfair do we 'balance' the scales to empower more blacks? But the real danger is the emerging black elite that wants to get ahead by hook or crook....even @ the expense of selling their own ilk. Nationalisation would solve the symptoms NOT the disease.....and I would give it only a matter of time until we(emerging black elite in the ANC) corrupt it to suit our own selfish intrests.

  • MARKVDM - 2012-10-19 06:02

    Come on guys....let's debate this in public......ANCYL VS SA BUSSINESS.....topic HOW TO GET RID OF POVERTY WITHIN THE NEXT DECADE

  • giepievz - 2012-10-19 06:30

    It's called "buyingthe vote". It has been successfully implemented in the past. "The reason why we are poor is because of those people." Successfully used for 100 socialist revolutions turned dictatorships. And then of course by Hitler. On the cautionary side - these can onlt thrive where there is real poverty, and rightly stated in the media - South Africa is ripe for revolution, and our government and society does not seem to be able to come to terms with this or have the capacity to deal withthis.

  • - 2012-10-19 06:37

    I've been reading the comments on this story. And one thing is sadly true. That the ANCYL is contributing to a racially divided SA as evidenced by these comments.

  • andrew.arnesen - 2012-10-19 07:07

    Talk about reckless rhetoric, racism, intellectual dwarfism and throwing insults? Case of the pot calling the kettle black? And I love the alliteration - their profound and proficient policy posisitons - pppp... Disguises the fact there is no real substance to ANCYL 'proposals'. I say that they are intellectually cripple bully-boy rabble-rousers who haven't thought out a damn thing beyond their own self-aggrandizement and next Johnny Walker Blue Label (at the expense of the tax-payer)...

  • ro.jhb.1 - 2012-10-19 07:46

    ANCYL shame - stupid c-nts

  • Andrea - 2012-10-19 08:14

    "attacking the ANCYL is a national sport" ... I know, I haven't been this active in 18 years!

  • jacqui.c.baumgardt - 2012-10-19 08:26

    Go for it, Russel!