ANCYL members mobilise for Malema

2011-08-28 22:42

Johannesburg - ANCYL members across the country mobilised on Sunday in support of league president Julius Malema and national spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, who will face an ANC disciplinary committee this week.

The league's members across the country were asked to gather in front of Luthuli House in solidarity, to show their support for Malema.

"We want our members to know that this is a peaceful march and is not against the ANC," said Ayanda Kasa, ANCYL Gauteng secretary.

"We think of ourselves as disciplined, and we are appointing marshals to ensure that there are no trouble makers," she said.

Over 350 representatives from branches around Gauteng gathered at a league meeting in Braamfontein to discuss the charges. Members danced sung songs in support of the two.

"Julius Malema... Floyd Shivambu... There is no one like you... Juju is coming back," members sang and stamped their feet in unison.

"This is not a disciplinary matter, it is a political matter," said Kasa.

She said the decision to support their leadership was unanimous.

Free State ANC Youth League (ANCYL) members were likewise called to join the gathering.

"We say disciplinary charges can never be used to settle political issues," ANCYL national executive committee member Lerato Mofokeng said, addressing members at the FET Motheo College campus.


Malema and Shivambu were charged with bringing the ANC into disrepute and sowing division, related to comments on helping to bring about regime change in Botswana.

Malema recently said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and was undermining the "African agenda".

On Sunday, Mofokeng explained how the ANCYL got to their view point on Botswana and reiterated that "Botswana was a security threat" in Africa for collaborating with imperialists.

"The interest of the US was not our interests," she said after referring to a US building air force base in Botswana.

Mofokeng said the ANCYL called for a freer and more democratic society in Botswana and not a regime change.

Apology for the 'media'

She indicated that the ANC youth movement's apology in this regard was more for the "media" and that the movement stood by its statement.

Mofokeng said the gathering should not be seen as a march against the ANC. She urged members for "high discipline and order" during the gathering and that "no burning of T-shirts" and "pamphlets against leaders" would be allowed.

Mofokeng said the ANC was the youth's "home" and the movement would support Julius Malema with or without charges.

"They want a fight, let them come," said Mofokeng referring to individuals within the ANC, in closing the meeting.

One of the members said that the charges were a way for the ANC to "get back" at the youth league.

"Botswana isn't the issue. The ANC is not respecting the autonomy of the youth league," Kabelo Matsepe said.

"This is all about what will happen [at the ANC national conference] in 2012."


Meanwhile, the SACP welcomed the move by the ANC, to reaffirm "respect for organisational democracy and discipline". SACP secretary general Blade Nzimande emphasised that the statement was not directed at ANC Youth League (ANCYL) president Julius Malema.

"Our statement is not talking about the individual. Whether it is a particular case about the individual, we are just welcoming the reaffirmation," Nzimande told journalists in Braamfontein, Johannesburg on Sunday..

SACP deputy secretary general Jeremy Cronin said "a very clear line" needed to be drawn between the majority of the alliance and all those "who are reckless and negligent of our constitution and the key principles of our alliance".

Cronin said problems of ill discipline recently had created a door for people to pose as "a defender of our democracy".

On Friday Malema said he was ready to face his disciplinary hearing.

"Whatever happens to us, we are ready for that... People should know that even if we are fired tomorrow, our blood will remain black, green and gold," he said.

Malema and Shivambu are due before the ANC disciplinary committee on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The ANCYL's national leadership was not immediately available for comment.

  • Lestor - 2011-08-28 22:46

    Now we get to see how much support Malema really has.

      Neil - 2011-08-28 23:05

      "We think of ourselves as disciplined, and we are appointing marshals to ensure that there are no trouble makers," she said." Wow, this coming from the ANCYL? They giving Barry Hilton a go on jokes hey!!! 2Weeks ago they were singing kill the farmer in the University? How is that for civilized? Wow ANCYL, Rocket Science hey? HAHA HAHA!! Marshals because they want to show they are not troublemakers and disciplined? LOL.. History speaks for itself my friends!! They are not trouble makers and disciplined?? TILL Malema opens his mouth. Klas is soos skilvers, jy het dit of jy het dit nie en Malema en ANCYL val tot die laagste kategorie!!!

      leerobbertse - 2011-08-28 23:09

      First armed security guards to scare the boere, now it’s bus loads of not so bright little mal –eee- ma‘s to scare the ANC. WOW !!!! This little fat face really makes my wooden legs shake.

      Schalk - 2011-08-28 23:15

      Probably quite a bit... This is just another reason to sort out unemployment though. All of these idiots have nothing better to do with their time than support their valiant leader in great numbers but with "high discipline and order" (LOL!). Sad situation though... The liabilities in the country have all the time in the world to push their agendas, to strike, to protest, to break down etc. Meanwhile, all the assets in the country don't even have time to play with their kids anymore, let alone demand anything. All their time is taken up by providing for themselves, their families, five welfare recipients, a few corrupt ANC cadres, one or two of JZ's offspring, Malenema's bling lifestyle and a loan or two to corrupt African dictators who need the money to continue killing their countries. Eish...

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-29 00:00

      Kick them out of the ANCYL and re-launch the youth league properly!

      cliffarc - 2011-08-29 00:06

      - The formation of this vote buying Ancyl,with their unrestrained rantings and tirades, is turning out to be a nightmare for the Anc. The Anc deserve all the sh?te coming their way. A classical case of shooting themselves in the foot.

      onetickie - 2011-08-29 04:39

      The 'zoo' made his bed and now has to lie in it. "He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon". The 'zoo' of course didn't have the intelligence to see further than his own rise to fame/position with the help of this little bloated devil.

      Netherlander - 2011-08-29 05:47

      Imagine the "VACANT LOT" sitting on the Tarmac outside "LOOTFREELY HOUSE" singing "kill the Boer" and other songs...!!!! Also called "SUBTLE INTIMIDATION", if I am correct! Lets HOPE this is the END of the PLUMP ONE.... constantly DIVIDING the COUNTRY!!!!

      Walter - 2011-08-29 06:26

      Whichever way it goes, the ANC will lose voter support and that's the best thing that will happen to this country since 1994.

      C_S - 2011-08-29 06:42

      "She indicated that the ANC youth movement's apology in this regard was more for the "media" and that the movement stood by its statement." OK.... this explains everything......

      Protest - 2011-08-29 07:14

      The ANC is calling Malema to face an ANC disciplinary committee. There he will have the opportunity to state his case and defend himself. The ANCYL is mobilizing their troops and turning this into a political madhouse. Makes me think of a schoolkid being called to the headmaster's office. On the way to the office he drags all his friends with and talks brave. He is still the little schoolkid who hangs his head in shame in front of the headmaster. The friends only created a temporary and false sense of security.

      DanG - 2011-08-29 07:46

      The ANC and the ANCYL each have a sword that hangs over the other's head. When the ANC made it clear that they will be investigating Malema for corruption, the ANCYL in turn fired back and said that the weapons transaction has to be re-opened. This was a threat and an indication to the ANC that the youth league is willing to provide proof of the ANC's corruption, regarding the weapons transaction. Basically the message from Malema to the ANC was, that if the ANC has become a pig that eats its own children, then he will spill the beans. Malema in the same speech indicated that he remains loyal to the ANC, when he mentioned that his blood is black, green and yellow. This in normal language means that Malema indicated that he will not say anything, if the ANC stops persecuting him. Suddenly we learn that there is no more money available to investigate Malema. This message to Malema was, that should he let sleeping dogs be, then the ANC will also stop the investigation into Malema's affairs. So the ground rules have been laid. If you don't mention my corruption, then I won't mention yours. Let the games begin.

      Welleducated - 2011-08-29 07:49

      This is SA, 10,000 racists are easy to find because there are actually more racists in SA than 10,000! Even on these comments, you will find ANC / ANCYL racists.

      McDaNife - 2011-08-29 08:00

      Let us see if the anc have got the balls to shut this punk and his croonies. Until that is done the SA public wont have trust in this government.

      Logs01 - 2011-08-29 08:17

      ANC has no choise but to "settle"' with JM amicably, otherwise they will have a uprising agains the ANC Cadre's. Now we will see how the "tail is actually wagging the dog", that the ANC Cadre's has no backbone and is NOTHING without JM & his supporters. Poor Fools !!!!!!!!!!

      Alo - 2011-08-29 08:37

      @WellEducated, If you are so well educated how do you not know what the term racist means. You cannot be ANC racist by definition. The ANC is a political party made up of people from various different racial groups.

      Hux - 2011-08-29 09:17

      One can only hope that Malema falls off a cliff. The stupidity of his followers would relsult in them all following.

      AllHoliday - 2011-08-29 09:29

      Malema say that he is ready, then why does he need a 'show of power' to imtimidate the ANC?? This is so typical!

      Gazza69 - 2011-08-29 09:44

      When i heard on the radio that they were holding a vigil for Malema, i thought the idiot had expired, but alas we are not that blessed.....oh well, maybe next time!

      DW - 2011-08-29 10:14

      "This is not a disciplinary matter, it is a political matter" - So take the politics out of it. The charges are 1) bringning the ANC into disrepute and 2) Sowing division. 1)I cannot think of anyone who has brought more disrepute to the ANC. Despite the fact that he managed to garner a whole lot of votes for the ANC in the last election, I think he also lost a whole lot of votes for the ANC in the last election. The things he says and does is a direct reflection on the ANC. His comments on Botswana were embarrassing to say the least. He apologised for his comments, so he has effectively admitted that what he said has brought disrepute to the ANC. 2)It is very clear that the ANC is split on what should happen to him. His comments on Zuma last year (for which he faced a disciplinary hearing) clearly showed that he does not support Zuma any more. He helped to oust Mbeki and put Zuma in, and suddenly Mbeki is supposedly his hero. He has people like Winnie Mandela rooting for him and others desperate to get him out as he is an embarrassment. I cannot think of anyone causing more division in the ANc. The hearings will take place and a decision will be made. Whether disciplinary or political in its outcome, in my mind he is 100% guilty of the charges. We will wait and see.

      Capensis - 2011-08-29 14:53

      Blood remains black green and gold? More like Johnny Blue JuJu!

  • PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 22:48

    Who is Kasa? Is she the Fatgirl that's always standing next to Fatboy? You know, the one that looks like her clothes are 4 sizes too small for her.

      Airborne68 - 2011-08-29 06:52

      Kasa Cement Ja.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 07:52

      what does it matter to you, mind your DA Business!!

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 07:59

      You people think that we will even think of allowing you to come back rule this country, you are indeed dreaming, we will trial and error until we get it right. at the end of the Day the ANC has all the time in the world to make mistakes until they get it right. So get use to the idea, you can call me uneducated, stupid for believing in what i believe in bottom line is I will not surrender, If you are not happy with the current state of affiars, THE AIRPORT OPERATES 24HRS. WE WILL NEVER EVER AND EVER AGAIN ALLOW THIS COUNTRY TO BE RULED BY THE MINORITY, LET US MAKE OUR MISTAKES AND WE WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE RIGHT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES, TIME IS A NON-ISSUE. IN THE MEANTIME JUST GET USE TO THE IDEA.

      Thandi - 2011-08-29 08:18

      @ancyl4pres - when you wake up and smell the roses, you can always try swallowing some medication to help you with your sickness, but something like a brain-transplant is likely necesary. You are a racist scumbag.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 08:28


      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 08:32

      ANCYL4PRES but you are indeed stupid. Even the clever ones in the ANC know that nationalisation will lead to more poverty. The fact that you choose not to see this does make you rather less than clever.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-08-29 08:36

      ANCYL4PRES ... wake up and smell the roses ... this country is already governed by a minority ... you know ... that fortunate black minority you now love sooo much with their houses in Sandton and elsewhere, large fat-cat salaries, cars, chicks and now a church? You forget you moron ... you don't govern ... they do!

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 08:49


      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 08:56

      Yeah, whatever. The nazis said the same thing.

      DW - 2011-08-29 10:17

      @ ANCYL4PRES - First of all, stop shouting Dude. It is rude to type everything in caps. Secondly, "I COMPLETED MY UNIVERSITY DEGREE IN RECORD TIME" - would that be one of those degrees you buy over the interner?

      Goose - 2011-08-29 10:58

      @ANCYL4PRES, Your caps lock is on. There is a button to the left of your keyboard that you can press to toggle it on and off.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-29 12:34

      ANCYL4PRES is so flipping ignorant that it doesn't even have the capacity to realise just how stupid he is. And yes it does matter to me who Kasa is because there is always a fat blimp standing next to the other fat blimp. I can't tell the difference between it and Juliearse and wasn't sure if it was male or female. I assume female because it has a bit of velcro on the head whereas Juliearse shaves his off. It also has a really loud pitched screeching voice which is typical of a hyena or possibly a cockeroach.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 15:09

      You obviously have no respect for fellow humans, Your lack of respect has clouded your thinking and you believe South Africans should see politics the way you see them, you are an ignorant, naive, narrow minded, imperialist,self centered, devil worshiper, I won't allow you to drag me down to your level and attack people because they do not agree with me from a political point of view, you have made your choice to attack people, anyway, just know that you are fueling the hatred even further which will result to us seeing more reason to support the ANCYL even if we sometimes see they are wrong we will overlook and say it's better than the insults we endure everyday on forums such as this racist one, again this is prove that your type, WHITES to be precise, still think they are superior and call people names. I hope you realise what "value" your comments are adding.

      AdamC - 2011-08-29 15:22


  • Martin du Plessis - 2011-08-28 22:52

    mmmhm, this is starting to look rather ominous to me. I just HOPE nothing happens to trigger some sort of bloodbath in this whole situation.

      Lestor - 2011-08-28 22:57

      South Africa is not that far along yet. The out come of this will be a good indication of where South Africa is heading though. If Malema walks out scott free I would really consider getting out. Go look on youtube for speeches made by Hitler (with sub titles), the similarities with malema are there. Ideological differences are unimportant, if you watch them both you will see what I mean.

      Macho Mike - 2011-08-28 23:06

      Simply put, hier kom k*k, whichever way you look at it. ANC vs ANCYL - Someone will loose out.

      ihtfcatkii - 2011-08-28 23:46

      @ Macho Mike - I agree, but I suspect when it comes to losing out, it is the taxpayer who will again be left suckling on the back tit.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-29 11:04

      If he gets punished properly eg. fired(witch wont happen since the ANC are weak) do you think it will go down well for us all,no it will start a whole world of trouble,in other words its a lose lose situation,a double edged sword.

  • farmworker - 2011-08-28 22:53

    Who is financing the transporting of members to those march, and are they not supposed to be at work. Regarding the peaceful march, I personally have not seen in years

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-08-28 23:08

      not in Africa, thats for sure

      Dinti - 2011-08-29 14:24

      @Netherlander...judging from ur comments, your user name is apt.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-28 23:05

    Hehe -- JZ's pet has turned on him!

      JR - 2011-08-29 13:50

      You know what you do when your pet dog turns on you? You put it down and bury it in the back garden

  • maseratifitt - 2011-08-28 23:07

    Malema and Shivambu came out much stronger after the hearing. Sorry for that, but I thought you should know.

      Grant - 2011-08-28 23:20

      Thanks for the giggle!

  • Tim - 2011-08-28 23:10

    "we think of ourselves as disciplined..." Ha ha ha. Man I can't wait to see them trash Luthuli house and then say "the people who did that were NOT ANCYL members, they were just wearing ANCYL Tshirts we handed our to everyone in the street" Hie hie. Can't wait for showdown :)

  • grod - 2011-08-28 23:11

    w***rs will have a mass debate..

  • Grant - 2011-08-28 23:16

    "The ANC is not respecting the autonomy of the youth league" Herein lies the big problem. They are not autonomous, they are a branch of the ANC parent body. If they wish autonomy then they must break with the ANC and develop their own political party (and fund it too!!)

      Netherlander - 2011-08-29 08:42

      Must admit... that is one "PARTY" I would HATE to SEE GET OFF THE GROUND!!!!

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 13:04

      Netherlander.... for someone who, rightly as it happens, took another to task for constant caps, you aren't doing too badly. How about taking your own advice?

  • Warren - 2011-08-28 23:17

    This could get out of hand quite quickly. Egypt/Libya in SA? Civil war anyone?

      Tim - 2011-08-28 23:33

      I for one can't wait! Imagine ANC members publicly firing on ANCYL members tomorrow. I wonder who will win though? I can imagine Luthuli house (being a "revolutionary house" and all) has LOTS of hidden arms and ammo. ANC will definitely overpower ANCYL

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-29 11:08

      I'll have a dash of genocide with my war thanks

  • JCTF - 2011-08-29 01:22

    I just can't understand why anyone would be a member of ANCYL. They clearly have the ability to communicate, which means they have the ability to read, or at least watch tv and engage in conversation. And anyone who can do these things is clearly intelligent and educated enough to realise what a shameful and moronic organization it is. So... what the hell?

      ES - 2011-08-29 02:11

      Unfortunaley these youngsters have bourne the brunt of a highly retarded education system that is not worth the paper it is written on.When they come out of school they are not elligible for Uni excemtion and to put the cherry on the cake unemployable!So why not join the ANCYL in the hope that you might become a hotshot or better still you might be lucky enough to catch a break and be thrown a tender or 2 or some lesser crumbs. Untill a first class education system is put in place that equips all the youth at a higher standard we might move forward.

      umlaut - 2011-08-29 07:51

      At ES--)) There are stories of individuals who even with little support systems uplifted themselves to reach high goals--they studied by candle light and had no transport to school and very little to eat--and they made it. But yes for these elements with no motivation or inner drive , becomming part of a gang was the easy way out and moving in a gang system may bring them some good fortune even if it is obtained in an illegal way.

      mokoenk - 2011-08-29 13:12

      not all ancyl members are imbeciles, to put it mildly. it is a democratic body like any other that you can think of. When it is voting time it just so happens that the empty tins do what they know best. all is not lost though, with the passing of time a new kind of cadre will emerge...hopefully there will still be a country called South Africa where blacks whites indians and coloureds could live peacefully alongside each other...

  • Yrrab - 2011-08-29 02:15

    She indicated that the ANC youth movement's apology in this regard was more for the "media" and that the movement stood by its statement. Well then! Not really a serious apology at all is it? The ANCYL quite obviously don't care and have no respect for the governing body. The ANCYL is not an autonomous political party, they are part of the parent body (ANC) and therefore subject to the ANC policy and rules!

  • Jabulaniboy - 2011-08-29 02:36

    Mo---FOK...eng calles for NOTHING in Botswana, as it is not her or South Africa's land. Get the hell out of other peoples business and country.

  • John D - 2011-08-29 03:11

    Its going to be a tough call trying to decide whether these are just "rent a crowd" mercenaries being paid a chicken or two to turn up or a bunch of misguided wretches who actually think that they will benefit if Malema ever gets into power. Whatever their reason for being there, the chances of it being a peaceful rally are slim judging by the ill discipline shown during the recent series of strikes. They need to change the venue for the hearing to an undisclosed location at the last minute otherwise there will never be an unbiased outcome.

  • onetickie - 2011-08-29 04:35

    The 'zoo' made his bed and now has to lie in it. "He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon". The 'zoo' of course didn't have the intelligence to see further than his own rise to fame/position with the help of this little bloated devil.

  • Lyndatjie - 2011-08-29 05:07

    Of course there will be violence. When have you ever heard of a bunch of emotional people getting together without an outburst of some kind?

      onetickie - 2011-08-29 07:38

      Actually, Ghandi managed to do just that. If you read your history or recall, they demonstrated in complete silence, sitting down - and many got shot/killed for their troubles.

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-08-29 10:20

      @onetickie, the ancYL have not got a leader that is as disciplined as Gandhi was, nor are the followers of the fat-boy disciplined or even peaceful in their reaction to anything. Gandhi's followers sat down with rifles aimed at them and even if one of the members were shot, they remained silent and disciplined. That is an impossibility in Africa. Even Gandhi stated that the Black African was not civilised at all.

  • GoblinPisser - 2011-08-29 06:17

    If 'they' could mobilise against farm murders I would be impressed - but to mobilise for that piccanine and his pal, hah!!

      Prof - 2011-08-29 08:23

      It's not only farmers who are being killed. How about saying "mobilising against killers in general"

      GoblinPisser - 2011-08-29 10:14

      @ Prof - Good remark, can like.

  • thabo.tebele - 2011-08-29 06:26

    @farmworker I was also asking myself the same question,should they be at work or if they are students shouldn't they be studying at least.rk or if they are students shouldn't they be studying at least.

  • Boxxer - 2011-08-29 06:32

    Nothing is ever peaceful about ANC marches. They always go bos at one stage or another.

  • Joe - 2011-08-29 07:07

    I am not a supporter of the ANC, however the ANC is going about this the right way.Bring Malema forward and charge him and any other i.e. in line with our judiciary system. Guilty or not guilty - this is the right procedure. My forecast - Malema will be found guilty as charged and dismissed from the ANC because he will be a threat to the ANC at its centenary Indaba next year i.e. a fight for leadership. However as a result of this, I foresee Malema starting his own political party. Choppy waters ahead!

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 08:17


      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 08:25

      He will never be my president. I don't answer to turds. If Malema ever becomes president me and many of my tax-paying friends and family will leave you and this country here to rot.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 08:35


      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 08:39

      Why don't you do everyone a favour by donating your brain to science because I can't possibly believe that in the universe this vast there are people like you at the absolute bottom of the intelligence scale.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 09:02

      What do you want me to do, you want me to say Helen Zille is the future then I will suddenly become civilised, educated? come on you have a small mind yourself, by suggesting everyone should think the same way as you. You really make me laugh, cos, gone are the days where everything said by a whiteman was the only way, I have the right and entitled to my opinon and my opinion is that the majority of blacks have suffered enough, it is time something extremely drastic happens to improve the economic situation in South Africa.

      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 09:07

      Unfortunately for you and your comrades something 'drastic' never improves a country's economy. You will frighten away investors and production will come to a complete standstill. Without funding and production the country will become a wasteland. Cash money will be used as toilet paper. Is this what you want for South Africa. If so, then continue your line of thinking by all means. But us slightly more intelligent beings - do not expect us to 'hang around' while you defecate on the Republic and everything that could make it great.

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 13:08

      Yes Joe. I agree.

  • Slapper - 2011-08-29 07:12

    What a pack of Brain dead Lemmings.

  • Ndlovu - 2011-08-29 07:13

    Support...of what... corruption (name it ceime) ??? A mirror of a party...!

      Ndlovu - 2011-08-29 07:25

      sorry!!! correction..(name it crime) it looks like my computer is corrupt as well...;-D

  • Matthew - 2011-08-29 07:15

    Hahahahaha, living in this country is like being governed by a nation of teenagers. They may as well disband the ANC as they (cough cough) all behave like children...

  • Dan - 2011-08-29 07:27

    Where in the world will you find a "youth group" dictating to the country's leadership. The ANC has such poor leadership and they depend on the support of uneducated masses, which are way to easy to influence by thugs like Malema & kie. ANC created a little monster by allowing the ANCYL status which they don't deserve and shouldn't have. Now the ANC is caught in the middle, being black mailed by their own little youth brigade. Yesterday's appearance of Malema at a church service and his daring comments afterwards again just show the little respect that ugly egg head idiot has for the ANC leadership. A pathetic situation created by a pathetic government. With senior ANC politicians also backing Melema, we all can see just what type of organization the ANC really is - nothing more than a lawless mob of highly undereducated thugs. Can't wait to see what excuses the ANC comes up with this time for not pulling the rug from underneeth the ANCYL. The ANCYL doesn't deserve any form of authority within the political spectrum, neither any other youth grouping. I don't think the "Voortrekkers" apointed and fired ministers or presidents under the old pathetic NP government. One thing is true however, at 31 Malema is still a child.

  • BoerSeun - 2011-08-29 07:29

    That is what the Germans said about Hitler and how did it turn out. That is what happened in history and don't think for one moment people like that think about other people, it is all about them and how to get more power. This is a disaster for SA future and if not get back on track and learn what the law means it will be a dark sad future for SA.

  • umlaut - 2011-08-29 07:38

    If malema can have the charges dropped against him, with the help of the masses, it means he will have a free platform to say what ever he wants to say and he will then be capable to oust zuma. The implications for SA will be dramatically negative and even Botswana will take note that he will support an uprising against Botswana and the two states will basically be enemies. The only good thing is that the king of the Swazi will also be ousted and his money taken away from him. The mugabe and malema partnership will hurt SA.

  • CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-08-29 07:50

    Wow you can "mobilise" against people facing justice. Got to love the 3rd world African countries, they would not know right from wrong or civilised behaviour if it was delivered in a chainsaw enema.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 14:48

      and by the way Pink, your house? lol. must be one of the old apartheid houses suitable to be a museum, he he he.

  • Thandi - 2011-08-29 08:03

    Lets see how far the Rand falls this week after showerhead has finished kissing/wiping fatboy's backside this week.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 09:09

      @Thandi...It only affects Johann Purets and co. to me it means nothing because I am not currently participating in the economy

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-29 12:41

      ANYL4PRES - Oh how typical, you aren't participating in the economy but you'll demand and steal from those who are getting off their backsides and putting in a decent days work! You're nothing but a piece of slime boy and please do come get the cheese out of my fridge, because I'm ready for you and your ilk.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 14:43

      @Pink and Proud, I do not need to get up and work, only slaves get up at someones time and work thet person, I am done being a slave.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 14:44

      *work for*

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 14:49

      and by the way Pink, your house? lol. must be one of the old apartheid houses suitable to be a museum, he he he.

  • Dumisani - 2011-08-29 08:05

    mobilising? what the heck are you doing?! WRONG is WRONG is WRONG! you are destroying the party you "love" for 1 person, who is enriching himself? the situations in Libiya, Egypt, Zim did not happen instantly, it took a long while and the people who messed up, where getting blind support from the masses. open your eyes and protect our country (or at least the integrity of the ANC) by letting the law (party rules) do its work. if he's not guilty then you have nothing to fear.

      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 08:29

      This is the general attitude of the ANCYL. They don't care about the constitution, the laws of the country or morals. Whenever something does not go their way you can be guaranteed they will 'mobilise' and cause chaos wherever they go. They need to be disbanded or this country is heading for civil war.

  • ProudBoer - 2011-08-29 08:11

    Julius Malema's popular support must not be under estimated. It stretches far beyond the ANCYL and I think the ANC's top structure are well aware of that. I do not think anything drastic will come from Julius and Floyd's disciplinary hearing. Why does Julius have such huge support? One can only speculate. In my opinion the struggle mentality is so deeply seated in the broader South African psyche that they will immediately embrace anybody that's involved in a struggle. Julius is involved in several "stuggles" at the moment, even within his own party political structure and I think that he will only emerge stronger from this situation. Any corrective measures that might be imposed will be superficial with no real impact on Julius' advancement to greater things. It is also noteworthy that the Public Protector's office suddenly ran out of funds and the investigation into his financial matters can now not go ahead. Make you think...does'nt it?

  • Wezz - 2011-08-29 08:20

    "Mobilise". You try and make it sound so important. Bunch of hooligan fools running around, breaking stuff and hoping for a free meal, is all that it is. How may of them actually know what exactly they're mobilising for. How many of them actually have an IQ higher than 10?

  • Mouthful - 2011-08-29 08:49

    BEE was a relevent tool to the so called economic freedom until it got mishandled and dictated by the same people who calls for the economic freedom.imagine how many people could have benefited if the tenders given in limpopo were given to emerging entrepreneurs on a consortium of atleast five companies not companies ownewd by malema and friends. they steal your bread and cry foul to the white i am a black african but i will not be subjected to stupidity by people who make me think a colour of someone is on the way of my success while the same people themselves get the cash. ask your self this if the white people own this economy and dictate who should get a share why is people like julius benefiting from the same economy while they point blank show their hate to the white economy owners? why cant i benefit from the NYDA even when am youth? this are the issue the ANCYL should start with before we go to the other issues.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 09:18

      BEE relevant tool, how chief? all the BEE deals that i have knowledge of only benefited a few black elite mafias, Ramaphosa, Sexwale, Motsepe, Ncuka macozoma, Shilowa.. I do not understand how is that a revevant tool? the other benefit is the current window dressing of some black people being made Managers and Directors in companies they have no say in whatsoever, most are part of "management" so those companies are seen to be compliant, how isa benefit to one man and his family relevant to the vast majority?

      Janine - 2011-08-29 09:50

      @ANCYL4PRES - "how is a benefit to one man and his family relevant to the vast majority?" - talking about Julius, are you?

      Mouthful - 2011-08-29 10:48

      the ideology of tenderpreneur has resulted in the mess Of BEE, if it was used as a formation of capital for more sustainable business ideas rather than a quick buck scam it is. unemployment would be realised institutions like NYDA are suppose to help entrepreneurs to make their business ideas a reality instead they they do nothing for the youth host alcohol parties to surpres the mind of young people not to realise how they are being failed by those institutions.imagine a contract of 10 million given to a smart entrepreneur that wont use the money to buy latest range rover but invest to grow his business this will lead to job opportunities as that business grow.thats how BEE should be used the motsepe,sexwale,ramaphosa comment is just the jealousy of for people who had dreams just have ur own dream and stop equating urself to people who you dont have the right capacity of mind to compete with.

      ANCYL4PRES - 2011-08-29 11:45

      Chief, You have no idea I am telling you, there is nothing extra ordinary about Tokyo, Ramaphosa or motsepe,if you mentioned Bill Gates, or Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs, I would understand as they qualify to be called geniuses, I mean the local guys only got a head start because of their political influence hence they got funding from Government entities to kick start their ideas , A lot of my applications were turned down, simply becasue I have no political link to talk to the "right" people to influence a decision to approve my application, if you want to i am willing to engage you personally and prove to you that my "small" company has a viable contract to to render a service but because I am a new business without any colleteral therefore my request has been rejected and even worse because I have no political influence. So please in a very respectful way to you, the current system will not benefit the small guy on the street simply because of the above mentioned reasons, I am genuinely sitting here very frustrated because I have done the ground work to secure this contract over a period of six years I struggeled but cannot get any funding for the assests I need to kick start my business idea, so you tell me, if you were in my shoes what would you do.

  • ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-08-29 08:51 This will be the ANCYL's legacy..

  • Sammy - 2011-08-29 09:02

    These idiots dont really know what they want.They are like all youthfull organizations since the hippy days,all anti-establishment.Reasonable people grow up and out of this phase.The question is will the ancyl ever grow up or will they become more radical and continue to embaress the country by producing imbeciles touted to be the future leaders.

  • Girltjie - 2011-08-29 09:06

    While at it (dividing), Let him start his own political party and divide the ANC.

  • SenseSeeker - 2011-08-29 09:11

    Intimidate and Threaten the ruling party! Well done Malema, just shows how well organized the whole organization is. Malema is Mr. Titanic and this will be known by tomorrow. If the youngsters don't get what they want by intimidation, they will turn to violence..... I hope they all get arrested and kicked out with Malema and Shivambu. Just think about it, Mr. Titanic is being investigated by SARS, Hawks and ANC. The papers(Bank records) don't lie.... Cheers Mr. Titanic!!! Your bulldose tatics needs some intelligence and I'm afraid it aint there...

  • 2shy2call - 2011-08-29 09:12

    I think ANC will not be threatened by Malema and his support, if he's wrong let he be punished like any other ANC members who were expelled, the likes of Bantu Holomisa,Shilowa and other. Who does he think he is. If ANCYL differs with the mother body let them go and join other organisations or form the new one.

  • Janine - 2011-08-29 09:30

    "We think of ourselves as disciplined" - pity that you don't do more than think about it.

  • debbie.van.niekerk - 2011-08-29 09:44

    "We think of ourselves as disciplined, and we are appointing marshals to ensure that there are no trouble makers," REALLY ANCYL...REALLY?? bwhahahaha

  • CyberDog - 2011-08-29 10:14

    empathy, not apathy ..

  • MSHAZIE - 2011-08-29 10:14

    At you Niel and Leer, Niel the song does not utter the words 'FARMER', its "shoot the boer" my bru not "kill the farmet". See the difference?

  • Dries - 2011-08-29 10:29

    One wonders which readers see that this is the beginning of the end? 90% of white readers still have the FW De Klerk / Nelson Mandela hype stars-in-their-eyes and believe like they believe in their Faith - blind, unthinking, unquestioning, like little children. 90% of black readers support Malema and the new revolution towards some kind of freedom that democracy did not give them. And - like every country from Kenya down - the blood of the patriots will flow and some white women will cry out in shock "I'm English! I'm English". And it will mean nothing whether you are English or not. You are white.

  • Viva Malema - 2011-08-29 10:53

    We shall march together with one goal to Victory

      BloodRiver - 2011-08-29 11:13

      You shall march together into anarchy and then starvation. Like your brothers in Somalia, Ethiopia etc etc....

  • phillip.havenga - 2011-08-29 11:44

    Anybody that supports this idiot should be slapped.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-29 12:43

      Slapped? They should be put down.

  • Danie - 2011-08-29 11:49

    Nothing will come of this. This is just a smokescreen to hide soething else

  • pitbull - 2011-08-29 12:02

    ANCYL by definition are not civilized.

  • theelderz - 2011-08-29 12:08

    Julius must just go for a while.Zuma himself is enough trouble already.

  • oncewasproud - 2011-08-29 12:16

    ignorance is bliss. Why dont the ANCYL stand up for election as their own political party and see who votes for who? Or are u too scared? Come on, i dare u!!! On the other hand, i will support Nationalisation when the following gets fixed: Home affairs, hospitals, Polics, education - all areas u already stuffed up

  • debrakayestylist - 2011-08-29 12:22

    Like "Moeletsi Mbeki FOR President" on facebook if you are sick of this nonsense!

  • Analyst - 2011-08-29 12:48

    Once a terrorist organization, always a terrorist organization.