ANCYL saddened by Carel Boshoff's death

2011-03-16 22:30

Cape Town - The ANC has noted "with regret" news of the death of Orania founder Professor Carel Boshoff, who died at the age of 83 on Wednesday, spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said.

"Our condolences go to his family, friends, relatives and the community of Orania," he said in a statement.

ANC Youth League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu also extended condolences to Boshoff's family and friends.

"The ANCYL is saddened that he passed away before he could fully embrace the non-racialism brought forth by the democratic government in South Africa," he said.

"We are saying fully embrace [him] because in our interaction with Professor Boshoff... he assured us that he accepts the democratic government of the ANC at national, provincial and local level, but maintained that the Afrikaner community should live separately to conserve their traditions and culture."

Shivambu said that "unlike other right wing forces", Boshoff was always willing to "engage with other people, even those he did not agree with".

The ANCYL regretted his death because "he had maximum prospects of understanding and embracing non-racialism".

Earlier, the Freedom Front Plus paid tribute to Boshoff, who reportedly died of cancer.

"It is with great sadness that I have heard of the passing away of Professor Carel Boshoff this afternoon [Wednesday] in Orania," FF Plus leader Pieter Mulder said in a statement.

Boshoff would be remembered as an Afrikaner intellectual, a cultural man, a writer and a theologian.

As the founder of Orania, he challenged Afrikaner intellectuals to develop constructive solutions which would ensure the future of Afrikaners in Africa, he said.

In his career, Boshoff served as a missionary in Soweto, but also made huge personal sacrifices in the interest of the Afrikaner.

"This led to his honesty and sincerity as [a] wise leader [being] appreciated and respected by people from all race groups," said Mulder.

President Jacob Zuma recently visited Boshoff in Orania and expressed his appreciation for Boshoff's contributions over many years, as well as for the entrepreneurial spirit and successful projects in Orania.

"On behalf of myself and the Freedom Front Plus, which had been represented by Professor Boshoff in the Northern Cape Legislature, I express my sympathy and condolences with the Boshoff family. We pray for their comfort," Mulder said.

Afrikanerbond chairperson Pieter Vorster extended sympathy to Boshoff's family.

"He was a former chairperson of the Afrikaner Broederbond and in this capacity he served the cause of the Afrikaner. We honour his memory," Vorster said in a statement.

  • william.botha - 2011-03-16 23:10

    Oom Carel was a bit of a dreamer really.

      kungfupanda - 2011-03-17 09:13

      "non-racialism","democratic government", "South Africa" all in the same sentence. Floyd, you must stop smoking those ARV's, apparently that's not how you make whoonga...

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 09:29

      Wow William, that's some obituary you've written there. It must have taken you hours to compose, as I'm sure you wanted to get a powerful message across to us. WTF?

      Joost - 2011-03-17 09:52

      Dreamer maybe, but he created someting not alot of people can.

      Vaal Donkie - 2011-03-17 14:20

      Dreamer? I thought Orania was a real place...

      william.botha - 2011-03-17 19:24

      Get a life LogicBomb. You most probably know very little. He was the proposer of building a wall into the ocean at the west coast to divert the Benguela current so the arid Western region can have a climate change towards better rainfall. I call that dreaming. By the way, when last did you check your IQ? I think you need to, the Logic was bombed to kingdom come.

  • J J - 2011-03-16 23:11

    Clearly no idea who the 'Broederbond' were. You couldn't belong to that organisation and NOT be a racist. Hell, those people even prevented white, english speaking South Africans many opportunities just because they weren't Afrikaans.

      phillie - 2011-03-16 23:30

      I think it is you who has no idea!!!

      ptaguy1983 - 2011-03-16 23:38

      Well clearly you have no idea either. He was a freaking missionary in Soweto for goodness sake. Why do you want to make all that is Afrikaans relate to racism? Study up on your history because you are mistaken.

      André - 2011-03-16 23:43

      Oh please JJ!!! And the Brits never did anything wrong? They are the people who put white, Afrikaans speaking woman and children in concentration camps killed their life stock and burnt their farm because of a pot of gold at the end of the scorched earth!

      Blip - 2011-03-16 23:48

      Only white Afrikaners were invited to be members of the Afrikaner-Broederbond (now Afrikanerbond) just as how only black lawyers can join the Black Lawyers' Association. Or how, prior to 1957, only black Africans were allowed to join the ANC. (Non-blacks could only join non-voting proxy organisations like the Indian Congress and the white Congress of Democrats).

      koos roos - 2011-03-17 07:20

      Yea they did very much the same as the English did to the Afrikaners on more than one occasion. Or did te part where English teachers put signs over Afrikaner kids at school get writen out of the history books. So next time before you wanna have a go at Afrikaners have a good look at what the English done not only to Afrikaners but to blacks in this hell hole.

      Hads - 2011-03-17 10:11

      You dont know what you are talking about. Idiot

      rammstein.f4n - 2011-03-17 11:39

      What about the fact that all pre-1994 presidents were members of the Broederbond and practised extremely racist policies? Where do you think this was decided and dicussed? At the Broederbond meetings of course, then afterwards in parliament just for display.

      Vaal Donkie - 2011-03-17 14:22

      I thought the Broederbond and the extended public works programmes were a reaction to Afrikaners beign excluded from jobs in companies owned by English South Africans.

  • leerobbertse - 2011-03-17 01:45

    RIP oom Carel, dankie vir wat jy vir die Afrikaner gedoen het.

      Hads - 2011-03-17 10:14

      Hier Hier

  • Bloubul Jonck - 2011-03-17 05:40

    You can lei to the whole world and they can believe you but you can't lei to yourself

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-03-17 08:56

      What do you want to say maybe I can help you with my English Third Language Lower grade.

      Wonderboy - 2011-03-17 09:06

      @ paul I doubt it or you would have done so. "You can lie to the world. " Typo error. I sometimes hit the e before the i too.

  • suspiciousme - 2011-03-17 05:54

    These attention seeking headlines really P1$$ me off! Thought up by some imbecile trying to see if he can stir the racial pot and get the extremists who trawl here to start slinging their racist comments around. A little story with no real meat on the bones - a bunch of so-called politicians sitting around making appropriately sounding noises - slapped with a silly headline. Get a life!!

      Jarra - 2011-03-17 06:48

      I agree

      mandiviwenam - 2011-03-17 08:23

      I'm so with u on this one...its so easy to get people worked up over anything. On the other hand, I think the ANCYL was being sarcastic, i bet u Floyd is having his shoes (the ones he'll be wearing to dance on this old timer's grave) polished.

  • feppie - 2011-03-17 05:57

    Floyd Shivambu:"The ANCYL is saddened that he passed away before he could fully embrace the non-racialism..." This from the ANC that 17 years into the "new SA" still make laws based on races :( The ANC described by your minister Trevor Manuel as :"... racism has infiltrated the highest echelons of government." You could not even teach yourself about non-racialism! Go back to political school! - 2011-03-17 09:12

      Exactly! Like we believe ANCYL?! Hypocritical liars that they are! But then what would they know about sarcasm being the lowest form of wit! Best they said nothing at the passing of Professor Carel Boshoff. Condolences to family and friends.

  • alex - 2011-03-17 06:58

    non racialism. what a load of s@*^

  • A THEIST - 2011-03-17 07:13

    Like the ANCYL will miss this man 1

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-03-17 08:22

    you know elections are close now if the ANCYL is busy brown-nosing.

      Sanity_Check - 2011-03-17 08:28

      Whoever votes for them are retarded.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-03-17 08:57

      Ye, I am retarded because I am going to vote for them.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 09:19

      You are both retarded, as they are not a registered political party. You can't vote for them? lol

      system.reset1 - 2011-03-17 09:44

      @LogicBomb LOOOOOL that was funny

  • Karoobloed - 2011-03-17 08:50

    I tip my hat to the ANCYL for showing the class to positively acknowledge a very conservative but very decent Afrikaner leader. This is the way forward for RSA. Too bad most respondents here are never able to see the positive in anything. And for what it's worth, I am neither rightwing nor a fan of the ANCYL.

      Samson - 2011-03-17 14:50

      Can you not see that this is playing at politics? Do you realy think the ANCYL is going to morn his death!

  • SamuelMabena - 2011-03-17 08:53

    My hope is that Julius Malema and his 'devil-on-his-shoulder' Floyd also don't pass away before they too 'fully embrace the non-racialism brought forth by the democratic government in South Africa'.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 09:19

      Couldn't have said it better myself Samuel!

      David.Nyembe - 2011-03-17 10:58 What are you trying to say?, Why don't you write in English so that everybody can respond to your comment? Are you afraid to expose that you are talking rubbish? Samuel's statement makes a lot of sense, just like you get white extremist you get black ones too.

  • gizzy - 2011-03-17 08:58

    What was the difference between Carel and Julius????? Both racist nationalists!

      Hads - 2011-03-17 10:06

      You'r an idiot

      gizzy - 2011-03-17 10:57

      You mean you're an idiot? My opinion and I'll stick to it!

  • ludlowdj - 2011-03-17 09:12

    The ANCYL doesn't understand the concept of non-racialism, how the hell would they be able to teach it to anyone else?

  • ludlowdj - 2011-03-17 09:25

    at JJ and ptaguy1983 Time to start acknowledging that the Afrikaans National Party and civil society both discriminated against English speaking people. at Andre' its called war asshole, the practice of scorched earth warfare was being practiced since before Christ, If educated people like you bunch can't let go of the past, we can forget about the uneducated masses from ever changing their views of the whites.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 09:46

      Contradict yourself much? Start off by saying we (us Afrikaners) need to acknowledge that you were "discriminated" against in the past. Yet when he refers to how 26 000 of our great great grandmothers and their daughters were killed by the English, he is an "asshole"? pfffffffft try again

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 11:11

      LogicBomb are you trying to get a point across perhaps? You have 26,000 greatgrandmothers??? Holy crap!!

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 11:26

      Sure, I'll be as simplistic as possible so you can understand. The point is the sharp thing on top. Still waiting for an orange? No? Go get busy then...

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 11:47

      I tried but couldn't find the aerial. Where is the aerial on a Merc dude?

  • Wayne - 2011-03-17 09:40

    Dis baie duidelik dat mens kan sien dat nie een van julle vir oom carel geken het nie !!! Swak kyk net wat party van julle van hom sê.

  • Wayne - 2011-03-17 09:44

    Oom Carel was n goeie mens! Hy was nie n rasis nie! Julle almal kan gaan vlieg !!!

  • sceptic - 2011-03-17 10:05


      Bluemas - 2011-03-17 10:11

      DA my arse

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:58

      Bluemas will be voting Conservative Party in the next elections. He'll be the one adding the sticker onto the voting paper and putting his X in the space next to it...

  • Hads - 2011-03-17 10:09

    This country can only exist if the different race groups cling on the their traditions.This can only be done if we have separate spaces in SA while respecting other groups. Can you see any harmony in SA since 1994?

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-03-17 15:01

      Intolerance is the problem & apartheid is not the answer... Tradition is very important and no one can take that away from you.

  • Bluemas - 2011-03-17 10:10

    Carel Boshoff - One of few boers i can tolerate! RIP

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:32

      The rest intimidate you terribly you poor doodums.

  • Alfred - 2011-03-17 10:27

    For the ANCYL to make a statement like that I immediately think of something I read once... "When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."

  • coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:31

    Never heard of this old doos before.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 10:35

      Get bent you prick, who's ever heard of you?

      Bluemas - 2011-03-17 10:37

      How can you call your uncle old doos?? show some respect idiot

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:46

      You two girls.....shhhhhh!! You're embarrassing yourselves with these tantrums.

  • coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:42

    Oh he was an Orania okie. I should have read further. Yussus sorrie hoor.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 10:50

      You don't get out of Danville much, do you? Go put an orange on your aerial (IF you own a car) and leave us grown ups alone. Prick.

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 11:08

      Someone has an obsession with the male anatomy. Are you a Stormers supporter?

  • Chanelle Greef - 2011-03-17 10:43

    Shivambu said that "unlike other right wing forces", Boshoff was always willing to "engage with other people, even those he did not agree with". And unlike almost all left wing forces... He should serve as an inspiration for us all: A man who could stand up for what he believed, without feeling the need to attack those he disagreed with. If only everyone could understand that it is OK to disagree, but essential that you disagree respectfully...

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:51

      Touche and well said Chanelle.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 10:51

      Very true Chanelle. "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 10:54

      You believe in freedom of expression!!! That doesn't make sense in your case madam.

      LogicBomb - 2011-03-17 11:03

      Why are you still here? Need me to give you an orange for the aerial too?

      coolwaynie - 2011-03-17 11:25

      keo is asking where our resident village idiot is. Should I tell him that you're trolling news24?

  • johan - 2011-03-17 11:16

    LOL, I had to read this article, because I laughed reading the heading... Especially after the bad comments ANCYL made earlier about Orania.

  • Barry - 2011-03-17 14:01

    Pre-vote day propaganda

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-03-17 14:58

    What a load of cow dung... AWB, FF Plus, ANC, ANCYL all in mourning...

      ptaguy1983 - 2011-03-18 01:21

      Dont know if you put the order like that on purpose but its brilliant anyhow.. Extremists on the far sides easing into the middle.. its just the DA that is missing as the median.

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