ANCYL to see Winnie after appeal hearing

2012-02-04 09:35

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League's embattled leaders will visit ANC veteran Winnie Madikizela-Mandela after hearing the outcome of their appeal hearing on Saturday, a spokesperson said.

"The ANCYL will not hold any press briefing after the NDCA [National Disciplinary Committee of Appeal] verdict, but will instead wait for the guidance of structures of the ANCYL," said spokesperson Floyd Shivambu.

Earlier, Cyril Ramaphosa, who chairs the NDCA, said it would hold a media briefing at the ANC's Luthuli House headquarters, in the Johannesburg CBD, on Saturday morning.

ANCYL president Julius Malema, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer-general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, deputy secretary-general Kenetswe Mosenogi and Shivambu were suspended from the ANC last year.

A disciplinary committee found them guilty of sowing division within the ANC and of bringing the party into disrepute, partly as a result of comments made on bringing about regime change in Botswana.

In a statement on Friday, Shivambu said they would meet Madikizela-Mandela in Soweto at noon on Saturday.

Arguing before the NDCA against the suspensions, they submitted that they had not been given a chance to argue in mitigation of their sentences.

They contended that ANC disciplinary committee members, including chairperson Derek Hanekom and Mineral Resources Minister Susan Shabangu, should have recused themselves because they had publicly disagreed with the ANCYL's positions on land reform and the nationalisation of mines.

They also held that the verdict and sanctions relied on an outdated section of the ANCYL constitution.

If they lost the appeal, they could refer the matter to the ANC's national executive committee, seek to have the elective conference in Mangaung review the suspensions, or head to the courts, said Malema's advocate Patrick Mtshaulana, who explained the ANCYL's arguments.

  • Comrade - 2012-02-04 09:40

    To ask her for a job ??? .... cos no-one will want you losers

      Squeegee - 2012-02-04 09:55

      Its a meeting to start a club for losers.

      Sean - 2012-02-04 10:16

      One criminal seeks ``advice`` from another criminal !LOL !

      Zamakulu - 2012-02-04 10:47

      Plotting a coup?

      Spyker - 2012-02-04 11:40

      Read up about the 'Mandela United Football Club', the callous murder of Stompie Seipei, a kilometre long hitlist of fraud and corruption, a flagrant disrespect for the law (at all levels) - in fact being treated as if above the law - like some fiendish voodoo deity, the reason Canada refuses to grant her a visa (feeding her obsessive hate of white people), etc... ... and you will find the blueprint for the ANCYL.., in fact you will find the origin of the fountain for the motivation- and/or justification of ALL the crime and corruption in SA. I am not sure what is a more frightening prospect, the fact that what is said at Luthuli House today, may effectively determine the future of white people in SA, or the fact that they will converse with the witch..? How do you plan a future in a country like this..? No surprise then that nobody wants to invest in SA...

      Gordon - 2012-02-04 14:52

      Maybe they're off to join the WL....

  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-04 09:42

    Mother and Son ...

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-04 09:45

      Or should I say Brood!

      Irene - 2012-02-04 13:16

      Senior Evil meets with Junior Evil.

  • Ian - 2012-02-04 09:46

    oh joy, such exciting news for a sat morning, WHO THE F CARES

      Dinky - 2012-02-04 11:46

      How nice it would be if I could have your mentality but it is hard for me to bend so far. When they kick down your door, as you say - WHO THE F CARES - ??

      Peter - 2012-02-04 15:16

      Why are there so many posters with animal faces?

  • Kim - 2012-02-04 09:57

    Amazing how sh#t sticks together

  • Larry - 2012-02-04 09:58

    Running to Mother, to whinge like spoiled brats.

  • Pieter - 2012-02-04 10:03

    Woema - Watch out you can become a second Stompie

  • Vegi - 2012-02-04 10:04

    Have I missed something. Why are some people rejoicing?

      lindz.kok - 2012-02-04 10:12

      because in some facist partys in south africa they treat even losses as victorys.

  • Deeteem - 2012-02-04 10:26

    When last has this stupid old itch with a b set foot in the houses of parliament ??

  • KCorsar - 2012-02-04 10:26

    hardly a surprise, Birds of a feather flock together

  • Mike - 2012-02-04 10:29

    She is a member of parliment and a convicted fraudster. She has been associated with murder and corruption. Little wonder Malema and the ANCYL love her so much. Along with their other hero,Mugabe,Winnie meets all their ideals of what an African hero should look like. With people like them at the helm, they know that they would be able to plunder away without consequence. Thats all they aspire to. Wake up young South Africans and just look north if you would like to see your future under a Malema. Imperative to get rid of this tumour now.

  • Nkosinathi - 2012-02-04 10:29

    If ANC fails today to deal with Malema virus then they will kiss my vote goodbye. Malema is a black Tere Blanch spreading hate and division. He is being used by those who want high positions. all this rot cam about when Mbeki was being decapitated in Polokwane 2007 and those who used Malema are now facing a fat snake that want to swallow them.........poor politiking African style senario. Maybe there is a great need to suboena the Stompie case again

      Tony - 2012-02-04 10:36

      There are many ANC Members who support your views Nkosinathi and count me as one amongst them.

      Thozi - 2012-02-04 10:56


      ISO - 2012-02-04 11:31

      Hopefully you ouks will then vote for a party that can!

      Xavier7034 - 2012-02-04 12:19

      I would support people like you, together with many others @Nkosinathi - we all need a new vision for our future, one without the hate and division that Malema has sown amongst us.

  • Shirley - 2012-02-04 10:34

    All this fuss and drama over one insignificant fat boy with a big ego and no clue! The only guidence he will get from Winnie the Pooh is how to commit CRIME AND GET AWAY WITH IT!

  • braamc - 2012-02-04 10:40

    All the has been's together.

  • michellebarnrd - 2012-02-04 10:52

    Lovely sunshine in Cape Town today

      Ben Nel - 2012-02-04 11:15

      Beautiful day

      Sinudeity - 2012-02-04 11:49

      Perfect weather for some Battlefield 3.

  • Trevor - 2012-02-04 10:56

    To cry on her shoulder and make plans to start a LOSER PARTY.

  • Morne - 2012-02-04 11:02

    The ANC could make one of it's more important decisions in 20 years today.

  • jamesbond - 2012-02-04 11:10

    from one s**t stirrer to another "Hi Winnie eish this is not fair"

  • Garth - 2012-02-04 11:10

    So the leaders of the junior racists seek guidance from that . . .woman. Hmm, anc credibility?

  • Gert van Coller - 2012-02-04 11:12

    What for? Crash course in navigating the political wilderness?

  • Jacqui - 2012-02-04 11:16

    Probably going to have a braai.

  • ISO - 2012-02-04 11:25

    Running to mamma (the witch of the ANC) now, are you boykies!

  • Lekgwakgwa - 2012-02-04 11:29

    All losers can com togethe form new party but why visit Winnie because ANC have a good leaders that can help them if is only for thank support yes.

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-04 11:38

      The purpose seems pretty obvious - she has the same mind as these criminals - they believe and want others to follow - that the destruction of whites in SA and the expropriation of all wealth and resources for distribution to the masses is the answer for the future of this country.

  • ReunionofIntelligentMinds - 2012-02-04 11:32

    Is ons ook uitgenooi vir die koek en tee party? I think they know already the outcome of the hearing thanks to a snitch and are going to plot their way forward.

      Dinky - 2012-02-04 11:50

      I agree - if it was good news - they would call their own Press Media announcement. At least, I am hoping you and I are of the same intelligence.

  • S'fiso - 2012-02-04 12:04

    I can't really see ANCYL winning this appeal today due to well-known reasons such as the ongoing ill-discipline they've shown to the South African and the ANC itself.

  • Bangoma - 2012-02-04 12:17

    What I want to know is what will happen to the ANCYL structures country wide. Some of the regions are disbanded by the same Malema. Thabo Mofutsanyana Region in the Freestate is one example. Are we going to see ANCYL conference soon or what for electing new leadership? These boys (Malema et al) are very pompous and arrogant.But we are now 15 minutes from the announcement. Lets talk after the verdict.

  • John - 2012-02-04 13:02

    If you want to see what would happen with Malema/Winnie at the helm...Check Nigeria...FACT...

  • Marion - 2012-02-04 13:02

    Why am I not surprised by any of this, particularly 'the mother of the nation' being a close ally of these ANCYL leaders? They have more avenues of appeal than a convicted murderer in terms of the law of South Africa. Originally I thought the ANC had teeth when Malema was disciplined. But I have come to realise that it is just a toothless dog with the tail wagging the dog.

  • Thabang - 2012-02-04 13:42

    Some people falsely think they are better than Malema merely because they have tertiary education. What you like it or not, Malema has succesfully achieved more than most of you guys.

      kvanjaa - 2012-02-04 19:34

      Ya whatever no one is better than anyone, this world does not belong to anyone group or party it belongs to all, your connection and bosom pal was promoting racial tension and violence, that was not Biko's vision or the vision of a rainbow nation, Biko's vision was a country for all without divides, those are the pricipals the ANC was founded on. The Youth League is just a place for thugs, it is n longer the League it used to be. If Malema wants respect then he must give respect. Do you want to live in a country where there is no work and just civil war, becuase if you keep on having people like Malema in politics there will always be divide, but then thats what you want because you think he is going to get you jobs with nationalisation, you only have to look at Belgium and Iceland and others,if you put the balance of power in just one party, corruption and thuggery will always take place and you won't stop it bacuase you will give them the power to change the constitution to make this country a one party state with no opposition

  • Raul - 2012-02-04 14:39

    So I understand now why this ...hole wants to visit her. He wants to kill his deception with Blue Label or Chivas Regal

  • maniza.ahoua - 2012-02-04 15:14

    I am so disappointed about Winnie, why she associate hereself with malema who is a losers, thief taking from the poor and selfish

  • Peter - 2012-02-04 15:15

    So they need the contribution of a lady whose contribution to the youth was to murder a young boy called Stompie. Interesting.

  • mashavha - 2012-02-04 16:08

    From bad to worse

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