ANCYL warns of land grabs

2012-06-02 08:04

Pretoria - South Africa could find itself tackling the issue of land grabs if the African National Congress does not review its policies on land reform, the ANCYL said on Friday.

"We might end up having a policy that is not guided by the ANC.... We might end up having a policy that is not guided by us," said ANCYL deputy president Ronald Lamola.

"It was only after a forceful mass action by the people of Zimbabwe that Zanu-PF ended up owning up to that role.... It looks like we are going to have that here," he said at an ANCYL policy workshop in Centurion, Pretoria.

Lamola said the only way to end economic disparities was by amending section 25 of the Constitution.

"You can bring Gear [the Growth, Employment and Redistribution programme], you can bring RDP [the Reconstruction and Development Programme].... If you don't touch section 25 of the Constitution, any other policies that you are bringing will only be a cosmetic exercise," he said.

Flee the country

Section 25 pertains to property rights and sets out conditions for the deprivation of property, not only land, and expropriation. It specifically provides for reform.

Lamola said it was expected that white South Africans and investors would flee the country when "militant and aggressive" legislature was implemented.

"When the land grab process was starting in Zimbabwe, people ran away," he said. "They are going to leave."

Lamola said that when economic transformation took place in South Africa, some people would experience pain.

Also speaking at the workshop, National Union of Metalworkers of SA general secretary Irvin Jim said the biggest mistake ever made after the 1994 elections was section 25 of the Constitution.

He said it had served only to protect the wealth of the whites.

"Those who control the economy are seriously protected by that section," he said.

He said white capitalists were now relaxed and happy after the expulsion from the ANC of former ANCYL president Julius Malema.

"Who is celebrating [Malema's expulsion]? The white people who own this country," he said.

  • billidp - 2012-06-02 08:17

    You bunch of idiots!Does it LOOK like land-grabs in Zimbabwe actually helped anyone but the ruling elite? If it worked so well in Zim howcome we have so many Zimbabweans in South Africa?

      Harold - 2012-06-02 09:52

      These silly people do not realise that there are more than 4 million whites who do not like land rabbing but also 5 million other African people who have been displaced into South Africa because of it and I have got an idea they are not going to allow it either. Think again ANCYL you have a lot of enemies inside South Africa who want revenge for your arrogance.

      Gareth - 2012-06-02 10:10

      You simply can't play with a country's food source. Zimbabwe has taught us that. Do an analysis of the land already redistributed and you will only find cases of a flawed system.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-06-02 17:21

      Eduard - 2012-06-03 13:21

      JZ...that is the ANC policy? Land grab? Afterall, they are a group of kids, nothing to do with apartheid (as they are all youths...haha) and the ANC has been in control since 1994.... Where will the youths get food from? Import, do they know how expensive it is? Where will they get jobs, because of the knock on effect....but then again, ANCYL is short sighted, just like the ANC....tata SA...

      Merven - 2012-06-04 08:43

      The scary thing is that these 'kids' are the future leaders. It is ANC tradition, where do you think the idiots like Zuma etc came from?

      Denise - 2012-06-04 09:46

      Like I said the government of South Africa owns millions of hectares, and is the largest land owner in South Africa. Instead of offering this land to South Africa’s poor people of all races, the ANC focuses on making the blacks envious of the white land owners who produce most of South Africa’s food.

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-06-02 08:18

    Who does that land feed? Who would be struck by poverty after land grabs? My black brothers and sisters. Where are we going to run to as we are the coastal country? Farming is not as easy as making babies so let's leave farming to those who can farm.

      Marco - 2012-06-02 08:37

      you're right, it's time all the people of this country realise that we can prosper together or die together and those are the only options.old saying says "if you go looking for revenge ,better dig 2 graves"peace

      tobydt - 2012-06-02 09:28

      David - You need a big dose of reality.

      peter.tony.14 - 2012-06-02 09:37

      @tera.gaju There is a big difference between subsistence farming and commercial farming. The massive failures of the current black farmers who were given land and subsidies is all the research I need pal. You like the state of Zimbabwe?

      rastabikant - 2012-06-02 11:24

      Thanks you for such a good remark! However, you can definitely add "black or white" after "those who can farm"! Farming is not a matter of skin colour... as for all the other things in life (even breeding like rabbit or being a criminal!)... it is a matter of education and economical condition... Those that don't understand this, black or white or yellow or colored or green, are not more clever than the ANCYL and other extremists!!!

      Ronald - 2012-06-02 11:47

      I agree with Tshivhombelaf. Many black people in Zim were superbly qualified (experience and formal education) to run a farm productively, but were marginalized because they were Ndebele and not Shona. I employed two Ndebele Zimbabwe citizens with University qualifications on my small farm outside Centurion. I obtained their work permits easily because I could not source people with those qualifications locally. Within 4 months they sorted my small farm out and started sharing in the profits. I was stunned at the loss that Zimbabwe was forcing on itself.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-02 12:14

      David,In 76 we protested overseas in support of the school children's uprising. We spoke to Governments and got them to agree with us. We had high hopes for you, what a failure you have turned out to be. By the way just incase you wonder why I was overseas, exile send you to funny places.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-02 12:15

      Tera stop researching the ashes of yesterday's braai.

      WitWolf - 2012-06-02 13:01

      Tamaranui, See your comment go again.. Bye bye....

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:20

      Are you sure the ANCYL announced this or is this News 24 trying to stir up racial hate.

      Themba - 2012-06-02 14:21

      David shut up and go ask the MK Veterans how many pieces of land lie unproductive because they cannot farm. There are many programmes of the ANC that have failed, which is why many people are still mirred in poverty 18 years later. Land grabs are not going to change anything, but will be another disaster of the ANC. Take my advice and get off that tik, or is it nyaope

      Honey - 2012-06-02 14:21

      avatar Honey - Just posted Report comment Quite right tshivhombelaf, black or white, leave it to those who can and those that want to enrich ALL the people of this land not just the cANCerous few. My Gardener of 15 years arrived at my door a couple of weeks ago. He was standing there toyi-toying with a big banner he had painted.The banner read " WE WANT MORE LAND" I asked him what this was all about and he told me he'd just been recruited into the ANCYL. I swiftly kicked him in the balls and told him "There's two acres!"

      Kevin - 2012-06-02 15:15

      david lebethe, 'black consciousness' is an oxymoron - I'll assume you know the meaning of the word. Zimbabwe's land grab is a classic example of a failed strategy. This year, Zim will have to IMPORT maize from Zambia, if you can understand the impact of that, then you're not going to see the train when it hits you. Time to stop spouting political rhetoric and have an intelligent look around you, bro.........

      Victer - 2012-06-04 10:46

      I can see it will not be a war of black vs white but ancyl vs the rest of sa.Ancyl better think again

  • Ivan Overton - 2012-06-02 08:20

    Perhaps, for some, the only way to learn from what happened elsewhere in Africa is to experience it themselves. In the end, when all is said and done, you get the government you deserve, and all that follows from that.

      Fanie - 2012-06-02 08:36

      Ivan, they WILL NOT LEARN even if it happens here.

      Polotic - 2012-06-02 16:31

      @Kolobe - Oh no! Not you again! You do talk crap.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-06-02 17:33

      The Political Party system is at the heart of the matter. Once a party comes into "power" the buy the armed forces' loyalty, with the money they are supposed to spend on YOU. Then they force YOU, with YOUR money, to keep supporting THEM. There is only one solution to the problem : Do NOT concentrate power in any political party. Get rid of the system as quickly as possible. Elect members of cabinet based on qualities required for the job. Control these people through legitimate representatives. No-one should belong to or be beholden to, any political party. Depoliticise the management of the country to at least a 90% level. There are civilized ways we can solve the problems facing us. If you want to see some effects of the party system, follow the link below. Place our own timeline above the developments, and you will see some similarities.

  • nikondaniel - 2012-06-02 08:21

    'n pot tos

  • tyron.fawcett - 2012-06-02 08:28

    Im Waiting for you, Im a 27 year old South African Born and bread. I have 3 Properties and a bussiness. I had nothing to do with aparthied i worked my ass off to get what I have, Blood sweat and tears. My Parents hardly afforded my school fees never mind tertiary education. I WILL NOT LEAVE. You will have to kill me before you touch what i own! Look how SA Pulled together over etolls, you guys will have a big suprise when you see how we will stand together over land reforms. IM NOT GOING ANYWHERE! I LOVE SOUTH AFRICA!

      clarah - 2012-06-02 09:56

      Fight on. We need more people like you who dont leave South africa for Australia or any other country but who fight on.

      Themba - 2012-06-02 14:24

      I'll be on your side to fight the morons called the ANCYL. That is if the impossible happens and they carry out their threat. After Juju, they are already a spent force, barking worse than they can bite

      rudi.debeer.5 - 2012-06-03 21:14

      Tyron, although i am a optimist. This retoric will have a affect on us soon.My advice to you is to put away some money in a overseas trust or stock.Most white South-Africans can make it in any part of the world.

  • Jean - 2012-06-02 08:28

    The poor which is mainly black doesn't have the skill to cultivate land, they can take a care of a few chickens and cattle (which is not camped off) but that's it, it won't benefit SA and it will put our food production at risk so it is not worth giving land to people who only wants it for the sake of wanting it. Besides land grabs in SA?! This is not Zim's farmers, this SAfrican farmers, here they will not tolerate it, they will shoot anyone who's intentions are to hurt his/her family...

  • thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-06-02 08:29

    U stil hav malema spirit within u boy or is malema controling u 4rm remote area. Anc wil expel ur *ss like they did 2 ur so called leader. Just leave the whites alone. There was wiling seller willing buyers, why didnt u buy by dat time. Anc is going down da drain. VIVA DA VIVA.

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:20

      Are you sure the ANCYL announced this or is this News 24 trying to stir up racial hate.

      Jenny - 2012-06-02 15:21

      Jeez Harold - like a broken record. It was the ANCYL who said it. Why is that difficult to understand?

      thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-06-02 22:55

      Harold they said it b4 n they continue saying it until the Hawks take the mastermind to jail.

      Raymond - 2012-06-04 08:49

      Well said James.

  • SirFGrumpy - 2012-06-02 08:30

    Any form of land grab will destroy the economy of this country to the detriment of all of its citizen. The biggest landowner in this country is the state. Use that land for redistribution. As for Malema, history will record that he was a fraudster who stole for his own benefit. He created noise to try make himself untouchable but that failed.

  • Fairness - 2012-06-02 08:30

    Put the truth on the table first. How much of south africa's land is actually owned by white people? And then ask how much of sa land actually belongs to the ruling party? You will be surprised to know that the majority of privately owned land actually belongs to those who are sweeping up the nation. I surely hope that the\people\ lamola is referring too takes a good long hard look around and explain why is there so many zim people around in sa before they action or support this statement. Before it is too late. I will defend my bit of land with equal aggression for the sake of my children and my fellow countryman.

  • lmadikwe - 2012-06-02 08:31

    insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity insanity. That's all I can say.

      Dee - 2012-06-02 11:50

      From both sides of the debate imo. I wonder if there is not a 'win-win' middle ground approach. There are models of 'co-operative' shareholder ownership and skills development schemes that could be incentivised? ie. Retain the skilled farming management as key stakeholders - whilst developing 'shareholder' skills? And a "green" model I saw in China where govt subsidises people to stay in rural areas ... had 'multi tiered' farming with pigs manure burnt for electricity; a lake for fish farming - and above the lake were ducks and chickens - their poop feeding the fish; above the chickens were cows etc and their poop fertilizing grass for chickens. To qualify for subsidy - the community had to prove all the various plumbing, electrical, accounting, building and maintenance skills etc etc skills required for sustainability. I'm quite sure S.Africans can find creative mutually beneficial solutions.........?

  • Sulette Behnke - 2012-06-02 08:32

    Ah there you go, take the land, it will not empower you , neither will your ancestors make the mealies grow. Go sit there and pretend to be a farmer , create another Zimbabwe. ( it doesnt take much effort). Maybe starvation is a way to curb over population. Viva ANC.

  • oom.kosie.9 - 2012-06-02 08:33

    This shows you how much "intellect" there is in the house of ANCYL and probably the ANC judging from the Green Paper on land reform. They are soooo stupid too realise that the majority of land in South Africa is funded by banks, which in turn gets the majority of their funding from the savings of ordinary South Africans, including blacks! What a pleasure, take over the land, disregard ownership, and sommer take over my bond as well! The path that ZimBob took is well documented, the minute you touch ownership your economical demise is around the corner. The majority of people who will be disposessed will simply move on with a bit of hardship and wil apply their skills elsewhere, leaving the ANC, ANCYL, Cosatu, Numsa, bobbejaansa and other in charge of f...all.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-02 12:18

      Oom look what is happening in Zimbabwe, Mugabe is buying maize from Zambia where it is grown by the white farmers he chased out of Zimbabwe. If that isn't funny, what is?.

      James - 2012-06-02 15:05

      Jacqui you forgot to mention that Mugabe uses aid money to buy the mielies Mostly German.

      Kevin - 2012-06-02 15:25

      Jacqui has got it spot on. I drove through the Zimbabwe farmland recently and not one farm was operating. The machinery is standing there and no-one has the pride, determination or finance to run the farms. Zambia's agriculture is run by ex-RSA and Zim farmers, who are providing work, education and housing for their workers and now Zambia will make money from Zimbabwe (if Bob pays the bill). How do we get some of these bloggers to see sense?! Having the land doesn't mean you know how to benefit the country with it.

      Jenny - 2012-06-02 17:55

      Do ANCYL ever think of consequences? Or do they imagine that the farms will be taken over by their young member thugs and it will be business as usual the next day, with them suddenly knowing how to farm and feed millions of hungry mouths? They acknowledge that investment and taxpayers will flee the country instantly. Within a month, people here will be starving as there will be no revenue to buy food for them, and the farms will not be functioning either. So stupid, so sad.

  • Simon - 2012-06-02 08:34

    As usual, Ronnie and his cronies fail to mention the other side of the land grab in Zim. Buying a loaf of bread with a truckful of worthless paper money. Inflation with more digits in it than a phone number. Millions living in the 'Bread basket' of Africa now starving due to the farms being occupied by retards who could't grow a beard without the 'evil' white man telling them what to do. Yes Ronnie, go for it. It will spell the end of everything that people of ALL RACES battled for for so long to achieve in this country. As a parting shot Ron, you do know that all the land belonged to the Khoi people originally. So no doubt you are going to hand it all back to them? I thought not. Typical, you only follow your version of the truth. Such as 'Racism no, but AA, BEE yes'

  • Fanie - 2012-06-02 08:34

    The voices of idiots still get media coverage. Where does the ANC find these illiterate bafoons. You should think their schooling system would have produced rational thinking students, but this is what happens if you fix the unbroken, idiocy. Hope the ANC is proud of this new thinking of their disrespectful youth that doesn't give a dam what the party says.

      bangela.kambile - 2012-06-03 18:42


  • Tax - 2012-06-02 08:35

    Land grabbers will be shot. Ask your aNC government for land they own most of it.

  • Sulette Behnke - 2012-06-02 08:36

    If you ask how much land is owned by whites , maybe you should also asked how many whites has paid their asses off for this land. It was bought , not acquired through force.

      ryno.pretorius.52 - 2012-06-02 08:52

      @stanley, yes I agree that we should go back and read our history books! And you know what they say? That blacks aren't native to South Africa! They travelled and settled here just as the whites did! So shat gives the blacks more land rights over the whites? The only people that have the right to say they are the original inhabitants are the khoi! So get off your racist high horse and think before you speak!

      Tyrone - 2012-06-02 08:53

      That was hundreds of years ago. I agree it was not right to have forced people off their land but you surely must realise that over the last few hundred years that land has ben bought and sold numerouse times and can't just be taken from anyone.\r\nGo on holiday in Zim and when you get back let's talk again about how effective land grabs are. Things in S.A might not be perfect but please believe me if black youth start grabbing land it get a lot worse.

      rowen.loretz - 2012-06-02 09:44

      Thing is stanley. the indigenous people did not have any paper work and a money system, so they have no claim on land or proof that it belongs to them. The colonialists must have given them a few chickens or cattle for the land. But i still believe that the only indigenous people here before anyone else was the khoi-san. No let us move on now. You want land you buy it or you get the bullet.

      Chris - 2012-06-02 10:09

      @stanley.marries - I think it is YOU who don't know your history. Was it not the Xhosa who exterminated the Khoi & San? Now shut your effing trap and go do the dishes in the kitchen.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-02 12:21

      Stanley you read history with a jaundiced eye and a false sense of superiority. No use sharing the facts with a fool.

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:49

      @Stanley Marries you show a lack of knowledge of the history of South Africa. I wonder if you have read a history book written by anybody or are your comments based on the rehtoric of greedy politicians. To imply van riebeek took land is nonesense in the 10 years that he was at the Cape he forbid the burghers of the East india company to leave Table bay area. By the way Stanley unfortunately the african tribes had not mastered the art of a written language so my references are from the writting of the europeans who visited the Cape and not hear say.

  • jan.roodt1 - 2012-06-02 08:36

    Remind me of the dog chasing the car, when he finally managed to catch it he sat with a huge problem - he could not drive.

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:21

      Are you sure the ANCYL announced this or is this News 24 trying to stir up racial hate.

      Ulindi - 2012-06-06 09:42

      @Harold - News24 reports actual news, so its not a "stir" and just FYI - so did all sabc news channels (inclusive of a video clib with the ANCYL idiot wearing a fat grin on his face announcing this threat)

  • Steven - 2012-06-02 08:37

    I am pretty sure the ANC is behind this and just using the youth league as a front for their own propaganda and plans. But the truth is, doing this will bring down the house of cards and much more black people will suffer than white, but who cares the governing elite has never cared about anyone but themselves. 18 years down the line and they have not managed to create any self sustaining growth/ development plan for "previously disadvantaged" individuals? There is only one plan, raid and blame the current system and if there is nothing left... That thing called the wheel turns happen. Remember before the whites where the common enemy the Zulus and Xhosas where not really seeing eye to eye in fact maybe even the highest level of animosity in this country's history where between these two tribes and it will carry on if there is no one else to blame. For the sake of everyone still having hope please move on and use the resources that you have to educate people... The rest would follow... Oops I forgot that would make people realize what a bunch of crooks are running this show

  • Kanyisa - 2012-06-02 08:39

    And exactly what are your plans for that land, use them for more corruption?

      theprodigy.brian - 2012-06-02 09:25

      grow dust, then get their begging bowls out, brainwashed fools

      Tommy - 2012-06-02 10:00

      Tera, maybe you don't know, but Zim is very much dependent on foreign donors (e.g. food, money, medical supplies) - unfortunately, most of these things are hijacked by Bobs party before they can reach the people.

      Rob - 2012-06-02 10:05

      @tera.gaju - Your comment makes me laugh. If you were only growing one potato a year and now you grow two, you've just had a 100% increase in production but you're still kinda f#ked for food. Grow a brain.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-02 12:29

      Tera, then why is Zimbabwe buying maize from Zambia?. What kind of tin have you got your head stuck in? You people can't even clean up your yard. Get a life.

      jomardl - 2012-06-02 12:36

      I'm sure black people can farm just fine if they have the right training but in a country like Zim, beset by chaotic land grabs and thuggish militias, they are still failing the poor. They are now seizing the land from the beneficiaries to make way for massive commercial ventures and the only real beneficiaries are Mugabe and his cronies. The people of Zimbabwe have lost much and gained squat.

      jomardl - 2012-06-02 12:41

      Also: If agriculture is such a success in Zimbabwe, why is their largest paper reporting a food crisis?

      Kevin - 2012-06-02 15:36

      tera, my dear, I think you must be thinking of another Zimbabwe. The Zimbabwe I worked and lived in over the last 2 years has no agriculture, no food production and Mr Mugabe is quickly taking the last of the foreign investment with him each time he visits China. Where do you get the idea that food production is getting better? Not even close, deary.

      Francois - 2012-06-03 00:04

      thats the thing...there's no intellectual property to make use of the land in a productive and fair way...look at Zim...

  • Stephan Ceronio - 2012-06-02 08:39

    It amazes me that anyone can refer to an utter failure, and put it forward as a suggestion on how to move forward. In case you haven't noticed, Zimbabwe is not doing too well. It used to be the "breadbasket" of Africa, that basket is empty after "land grabs" and is now only half filled with a few rich elite, and half a starving nation. I say half because the other half of this "foresighted driven nation" now live in SA, scrounging to stay alive. If you cannot even learn this basic lesson, how do you ever hope to learn to farm? It's a lot harder than it looks my friends, just ask your Zim friends.

      Tasneem - 2012-06-02 09:48

      It seems nonsensical when you accept that the underlying reason being put forward as motivation for land grabs is the real reason(since it will do the exact opposite of what the YL are saying it will do). However, when you substitute that reason with the real one, then suddenly things add up...revenge. The advertised reason is simply to try make the action morally palatable, to the people being instructed to act...people will commit atrocious acts against guilty and innocent alike if they believe they are fighting for a pure and just cause. Look at the crusades and the atrocities those people committed in the name of God and Christianity, look how they failed to see the irony of their acts, how many of their very own most sacred ten commandments they broke in forcing their beliefs on others. People like this fail to realise they are their own worst enemies, they fail to join the dots, they don't look further than one or two steps ahead, or fully understand the complexities of cause and effect, nor do they recognise that in meting out 'justice' for the bad they suffered, that they themselves become perpetrators of the exact thing they seek justice against. All they achieve is to perpetuate the cycle of misery and suffering.

      Tasneem - 2012-06-02 10:25

      It is also worth noting that I'm not referring to only ANCYL and those that support these actions, they are white too, they are DA, they are COSATU, christian, jew, israeli, palestinian, american, iranian (you get the idea?)...all colours, all creeds. We all need to guard against this trap. Everyone is angry about something, even pastor bloggs at the church up the street. Anyone can come up with reasons to 'validate' their anger at another person or group. But, think about what you are saying, why you are saying it, and ask yourself "Is this going to make things better or worse" (whities - that goes for us too, start here...are our comments on this forum making disenfranchised blacks more angry, and causing more of the nonsense we criticise them for; they have reason to be angry, they are just misdirecting it. Black camp -> are your comments helping whites understand your issues, so we can help you solve your problems - cos we have the means to do so, but who wants to help someone who only wants to hurt them?). Break the cycle peeps, don't let anger rule you, take the time to understand why someone makes a hateful comment against you. If there's nothing you can say or do to fix that, then rather do nothing, than say stuff that will only make the situation worse...think further ahead than tomorrow. A comment made in anger today, could result in some farmworker being beaten to death by his angry baas, or your daughter being raped by an angry tsotsi. Cause and effect ppl.

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:22

      Are you sure the ANCYL announced this or is this News 24 trying to stir up racial hate.

  • Sharmay - 2012-06-02 08:41

    STFU!! We are not Zimbabwe unless you try to be like old Bob and force the issue of black and white... And we all know the world is waiting for him to die just so that Zim people can started rebuilding their lives without his crazy ideas. ANCYL, you are racists!!! The GOVERNMENT owns the wealth in SA because they STOLE it! Why not pick on them for a change and leave the whites alone!

      Wally Walters - 2012-06-02 08:50

      Ronald Mcdonald moenie die boere wakke maak met dreigemente nie dit is nie Zimbabwe nie moenie se jy was nie gewaarsku nie FULL STOP

      Sharmay - 2012-06-02 08:55

      Ek dink nie hulle besef dat dit die boere is wat meeste van die kos verskaf in SA nie. Dis maklik om n plaas weg te vat maar nie so maklik om iets met dit na dit tyd te doen nie.(dis bewys, 90% van die nuwe 'boere' sit net rond en speel met klippe, niks groei nie). Wonder of hulle nog so grootbek sal wees met niks op hulle borde nie.

  • markwmilligan - 2012-06-02 08:46

    Was wondering how long it was going to take before they played that card.

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-06-02 08:48

    Land grabs! How about working for something for a change? Uselessness and laziness shouldn't be rewarded with free farms. Shut up ANCYL, your executive members are way wealthier than most white people.

  • Marco - 2012-06-02 08:48

    it is a valid question. very little of the arable land in this country is privately owned by whites or anyone else.(probably in the region of 1 or 2 percent. WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY does the government not just GIVE some of the 95 percent of state owned land to the previously dispossesed? With respect, youth league ,can you answer this or is your WHOLE existence based on hatred and revenge. i remember when malema got the boot he said something like this. "i have my cows, then i will slaughter them and be rich" so my fellow two legged cows ,does this not tell you all you need to know.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-02 08:51

    These fu@kers should not just warn everybody, they must start grabbing the land so that we can start the mother of all civil wars that Africa has ever seen. Whites will not flee the country, that is absolute wishful thinking. So let me warn you today, this issue with only be solved after the blood has ran down in the streets. You are going too far! We will retaliate!!!

  • Piet - 2012-06-02 08:52

    Will grab land.?? WILL GET SHOT!!! This is not a threat , but a promise.......

  • Leonard - 2012-06-02 08:52

    let the war begin

  • Daan - 2012-06-02 08:54


  • Tinus - 2012-06-02 08:55

    Ronald Lobotomy, how did that work for Zim??

      John - 2012-06-02 10:50

      In their minds, it worked fantastically well for some reason. Their measure for success is that they can say that they defeated the colonialists and drove them off their lands. No matter if it is to their own detriment. Go Figure! They are the ABSOLUTE OPITIMY of RACISTS

  • solverman - 2012-06-02 08:55

    Am I mistaken.... I am not quite up to date on my politics... is the ANCYL an independent party and will have their own little box to tick come the next elections... or is the ANCYL, a testing ground... for putting forward their ridiculous ideas.... and when the ANC see's that it is not going down too well... " Punish" the ANCYL for being too controversial and out of lines with ANC policy.... Julius Malema, has probably been given a golden handshake for the work he did for the ANC... through the guise of the ANCYL...

  • Rèaan En-Rozane de Jager - 2012-06-02 09:01

    just shows you how stupid the ANC really is. They are actually using Zimbabwe as a example for what they want to do. not seeing what state Zimbabwe is in now. but they will still get the vote from the uneducated masses. while breeding a black youth that only want everything handed on a silver platter, and don't want to work for what they want or need. the state wont be able to uphold this system of just giving and giving if the farms does not produce anything. its the whites that is upholding the system at this point.

  • Vince.York - 2012-06-02 09:02

    ANCYL RACISTS learn a history lesson NOW:- YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THE LAND THAT WAS NEVER YOURS. On gets a fairly CLEAR idea why "apartheid" came about in the past:- BUT here is a quick history lesson for those not in the know

  • Liaan Horton - 2012-06-02 09:05

    This is not Zimbabwe....

      Mike - 2012-06-02 12:47


  • YrHonour - 2012-06-02 09:05

    AMAZING & DISTURBING AND STUPID ALL AT ONCE - I'm amazed that they acknowledge Investors and People will flee! - I ask black people at random DAILY where the Government gets there money FROM to run a country??? - Blank Response - The ANCYL leaders in time to come will get into bed with the Chinese in the mines and feed their fat faces while the rest of the countries BUSINESS AND PERSONAL TAX Contribution DRIES UP and who will that affect? - all the black people reliant on jobs to feed their families FED. It is our prerogative to educate the masses why there is money in the country. No business, No Jobs = Very hungry people except FAT F#CK JUJU and his Cronies who will only rest when the country is destroyed!

      YrHonour - 2012-06-02 16:45

      @Themba - Go on you explain then where the Goverment gets it's money from - I'm very interested to hear - enlighten me please?

  • dustin.booysen - 2012-06-02 09:06

    The ANCYL are deluding themselves if they think South Africa will be any better without and Whites, Indians, Chinese - they will still be an oppressed people but thier masters will be the ones the had the freedom to vote for - please give these people a copy of Animal Farm.

  • Jason - 2012-06-02 09:06

    blah blah blah. Do it then. Enough with the threats. Let the starvation begin.

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:23

      Are you sure the ANCYL announced this or is this News 24 trying to stir up racial hate.

      Esther - 2012-06-02 19:08

      Let them starve to death. Less of a burden on the rest of the world. Africa is like a big parasite ,living off the tax of developed countries where people are willing to work

  • YrHonour - 2012-06-02 09:07

    @Rob - Who are ABSA the police - what are they going to do - They will be nationalised too... What are they going to do really, run out there with their lap tops and pens and do what - i cant wait too watch it. Nope they will be running to the airport instead

      YrHonour - 2012-06-02 10:00

      maybe it's just me - why the thumbs down? - do you think i want that? it's reality that's all? - the ANCYL is filled with such HATRED for whites that they would rather destroy everything at the expense of their "own peoples" lives than allow whites to prosper

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-02 23:02

      @yrhonour, and you will be crawling after them, begging for last weeks lunch box because you have not eaten in 2 weeks. That is when I will kick you in the face, eat my last ham and cheese sandwich and give you the lunch paper/wax paper to lick!

      Irene - 2012-06-03 02:54

      Nicolaas ~ ROTFLMAO! I like you:-)

      YrHonour - 2012-06-03 08:22

      @Nicolass ans @Irene - Ham and Cheese, your last one ... strange comment... you will find your self eating that foot tough guy... Irene you're so desperate for a man you'll lick anyone's you know what

      Irene - 2012-06-03 14:18

      @YrHonour ~ Eat with the same mouth? And no little one, most certainly not desperate for a male and even more so if you're an example of one. Sies!

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-03 18:28

      @Yrhonour, you see, you fail to comprehend a simple sentence! Read your posting, then read my reply. Ok, I cannot wait 15 years for you to understand, so I will make it easier, you siad you cannot wait to watch them running to the airport. So my response relates to when I eat my last sandwich before boasrding the plane out of this Banana republic, and you crawling after us begging for a piece of my sandwich, I will kick you in your face, finish my sandwich and give you the lunchpaper to lick off. This will give you your last taste of ham and cheese before you die of hunger!

  • Zahir - 2012-06-02 09:07

    Ancyl has done nothing for the youth land grabs will be another disaster in the making 5 million zim fled to sa due to this policy

      tendai.barura - 2012-06-02 09:13

      I agree wth what you said about the land grabs bt they are less than 500 000 zimbabweans in south Africa .

  • tendai.barura - 2012-06-02 09:08

    Nothing better happened in zimbabwe after the violent land grabs . If the ANCYL are wise enough they should take time to look into zim situation before talking of land grabs unless they want to deepen poverty in south africa .

      Andzon - 2012-06-02 09:42

      Quite right.... Starvation & poverty is the net outcome - Bread basket to basket case...

      braamc - 2012-06-02 09:54

      They to stupid, lazy and born thieves

      jomardl - 2012-06-02 12:45

      I have no personal or economic interest in farming but I do like to eat. Most Zimbabweans I have spoken to share Tendai's opinion. Something needs to be done about land reform but agricultural land grabs will ruin this country for everyone.

  • dumisani.mbense - 2012-06-02 09:08

    personal I would love to have a big land.but can I real use it? the answer is no I can't even do my garden, let the land be in the hands of those who can use it and whoever qualify must be aided by government.

      Sharmay - 2012-06-02 09:10

      Dumisani for ANCYL leader!

      Sulette Behnke - 2012-06-02 09:28

      Great comment.

      rowen.loretz - 2012-06-02 09:55

      I am white and I can't farm either. I leave it to the professionals who are trained and have experience. Government must provide training and support to people who want to farm, before they give them a farm. The ANC can use taxpayers moeny to buy land for those that want to farm.

      cleintoon - 2012-06-02 10:41

      Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to say that. Our society and economy has changed. No longer is the agricultural sector the driving force of our economy. Many people live (and prefer to live) in urban areas and provide for themselves through the knowledge economy. You want real sustainable growth in a globalizing world? Education is the key! People must realise: they're not merely competing against fellow south-africans for jobs, but against people from all countries. If the guy in India delivers better service for less, it's even more little effort and much more effective to outsource your operations. That's why China's buzzing right: for 30 years they've been pushing education, entrepeneurship and innovation. Without those, no matter how big your population is - you will not create wealth and lessen the gap between rich and poor. I fully support the ANCYL in advocating for free education for all, but that's about it. I wish they would just run with that thought.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-02 12:37

      Dumisani, those are wise words ,young brother. Wise indeed.

      jomardl - 2012-06-02 13:02

      One of the big challenges faced by the SA government in the 1920's-1940's was to convince the many rural poor whites that everyone can't be a farmer. The trade-off was that government was to provide them with opportunities, education jobs etc. Sadly this occurred at the expense of everyone else who wasn't white. This is why I have no problem with affirmative action in SA, whether it's farming or whatever. I think it needs to be stepped up. Sadly, unlike Zim, our government has failed to educate properly an entire generation of children in school as well as new black farmers.

  • cleopas.maunye - 2012-06-02 09:11

    Lamola must 1st take a tour and look @ de land dat has been transferred so far 2 through Restitution and other redistribution programs, as for irvin jim he must focus his energy on de betterment of workers 's livelihood

  • Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-06-02 09:12

    He will be singing a different tune when the white farmers aren't there to feed is fat belly

  • Leonard - 2012-06-02 09:14

    Amazing how half of Zimbabwe fled to SA, where will your precious ancyl people flee to once this happens in sa? Have u actually realised that white people bought their land and they are paying the banks back for the land? Do u think ABSA will allow u to take my land that's being paid for to an unemployed twat for free?\r\nBig troubles await our country.\r\nStop brainwashing the youth! People must work for what they have, nothing is for free in this world

  • taffaz.banhwa - 2012-06-02 09:16

    'Land grabs' haibo tht one doesn't work!!It will jus serve to open way for a series of unfortunate event,politically,socially and economicaly!!that's when u will see tht there's suffering.Zim an experiment SA cn use,a yardstick 2 measure extend to whch u can damage a nice country like this one with land reform!! Asseblief no no no no!it doesn't work!!

  • mphofejack.sebela - 2012-06-02 09:16

    This country has no owner!provided it does we all own it,economy shall evolve in both black and white sectors and economic equilibrium will not be attained just as it is the case with the fabricated equality of the republic..

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-06-02 09:18

    Grab the land then the whites will grab the taxi industry.Oh and who says anc will win the next election.Why dont the anc just blurt it out that they want a war,maybe they havnt got the balls.

  • raymond.abrahamse - 2012-06-02 09:20

    I always knew that South Africa will follow Zimbabwe to the road that leads to destruction.The blacks will not be satisfied until this has been done.Because of an African mentality,we will become just like the rest of Darkest Africa and remain the Dark Continent.They don't know any better,it's in the genes to be destructive.CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY.

      Harold - 2012-06-02 13:23

      Are you sure the ANCYL announced this or is this News 24 trying to stir up racial hate.

  • Precious Sipuka - 2012-06-02 09:21

    We do not have enough black people with knowledge of farming. Maybe the white farmers can mentor us. NO Zim here please. There is a lot of land 'white elephants' that was given to black people. We must be realistic as blacks sometimes and not think from our emotional thoughts. Emotions will not bring bread on the table. Rational decisions will. And to be honest at some level we are lazy in the sense hat we feel entitlement as a result of the past. Unfortunately life does not work that way....

      Sulette Behnke - 2012-06-02 09:25

      Thank you Precious for your honest input, if we can all admit to our shortcomings and rely on others for what we cannot achieve we are going somewhere with this.

      Consolata - 2012-06-02 09:38

      @malunge. I agree, but I just want to say that all those that would like to be farmers regardless of race, should be mentored.

      roxy.thompson.9 - 2012-06-02 10:22

      \The media controlled by white capitalists\ -are you kidding me??? How thick do you get? Its a case of dumb, dummer and dumbest. The media is fully controlled by ANC, how can you not notice this? Have you EVER seen articles circulating news and newspapers of all the thousands of whites being killed in this country? Or the disgusting, barbaric and violent acts against the race you people hate so much?? No- ofcourse not,I know people who are journalists for newspapers here in south africa and their strongest enforcement is the rule of writing PRO-ANC only!!!!

      Irene - 2012-06-02 10:31

      @Lovemore ~ ROFLMAO! When last did you cross over the border? Too funny!

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-02 10:57

      @lovemore, hahahahahooooheheheh, you think the white media is pretending that ZIm is on its knees, sorry Baba, but that is a very dumb thing to say, you can't be serious, if you believe this, then you have a BIG problem beoetie.

      YrHonour - 2012-06-02 16:49

      @Lovemore - You're actually a comedian right?

  • theprodigy.brian - 2012-06-02 09:21

    dont confuse SA with ZIm, big mistake, in Zim there were a few thousand whites, in SA there are 10 million minorities, we won't be running anywhere, you are dreaming.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-02 09:22

    Please read the following article!! "I am a racist"

      WitWolf - 2012-06-02 10:53

      That article was very well said! Perfect!