ANCYL won't apologise to Simelane

2010-11-10 15:16

Kimberley - The Northern Cape ANCYL won't apologise for its attack on chief prosecutor Menzi Simelane following the arrest of provincial ANC chairperson John Block.

"The ANCYL is standing by its decision and will not apologise to anyone when we defend John Block," Northern Cape league chairperson Shadrack Tlhaole told supporters outside the Kimberley Magistrate's Court on Wednesday.

He said the Youth League had lost confidence in Simelane.

Tlhaole was reacting to a reprimand by the ANC for calling Simelane a "rented dog of a political conspiracy" following Block's arrest.

ANCYL out of line - ANC

ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said on Tuesday: "Not only is the ANCYL of the Northern Cape out of line for rubbishing the state security agencies and the courts of law, but should also publicly apologise to Advocate Simelane."

Simelane was prosecuting Block and eight others for alleged tender fraud worth R112m related to the purchase of water purification equipment for Kimberley Hospital, at inflated prices in 2005 and 2006.

Block and businessman Gaston Savoi from Cape Town were released on bail of R100 000 each by the Kimberley Magistrate's Court on Wednesday.

The ANC Youth League in the Northern Cape issued a statement on Monday, saying it had "analysed" the charges and concluded there was no prima facie case against Block, who was also the provincial finance, economic development and tourism MEC.

'Political scores'

It said the charges were brought by "the private army of Menzi Simelane and others".

Simelane, the head of the National Prosecuting Authority, was prosecuting the case against Block and the others himself.

Reacting to Block's release on bail outside court, Tlhaole said the youth league would not allow people to use state resources to settle "political scores".

"It happened that we have called people by name since Polokwane," he said, referring to the ANC's last elective conference.

Tlhaole said the local ANCYL would continue to raise its dissatisfaction about the matter.

  • Kyle_logan - 2010-11-10 15:29

    when is govermet going to controll these uneducated, moronic twits... they should be removed for society.... put them in jail with John Block.

      devils_advo - 2010-11-10 16:17

      I agree with you but he isnt in jail anymore. Bail and all that...

  • zengfuey - 2010-11-10 15:32

    Makes me think of Pandora's Box and a touch of deja vu.

  • Ockert - 2010-11-10 15:36

    What next ?, the end of the NPA is probably near

  • Greg - 2010-11-10 15:36

    Block has a case to answer, this issue cannot be swept under the carpet.

  • Hardtail - 2010-11-10 15:37

    Got to love the yl...they are all blocks in training after all...politics in SA is about self-enrichment at the expense of the poor after all.

  • shortcut - 2010-11-10 15:39

    Thick as thieves

  • Greg - 2010-11-10 15:40

    Block must answer this accusation in a legitimate court of law. This issue cannot be swept under the carpet. ANCYL back off.

  • smanga - 2010-11-10 15:40

    That’s barbaric- I am an ANC member but I am not impressed about what other the so called “comrade” or “comtsotsi” are doing. People are coming to the organization because they want to enrich themselves. There are many tender entrepreneurs who are hold big position in the ANC- I think the organization is losing its spark because of these cockroaches who call themselves ANC seniors.

      THE PUNISHER - 2010-11-10 16:13

      Can't agree with you more, dude. Very good points you mentioned. This kind thing happens on both sides of the spectrum. This is no more a race issue. This is blatant stealing food from the poor. These people need to spend the rest of their lives in jail, and leave management and and tenders to the honest. Whether they are black or white. It's the only way to get South Africa out of the Zimbabwe ad rest of Africa way of doing things

      devils_advo - 2010-11-10 17:39

      I like the sentiment behind your comments, but can't help but think it will fall on deaf ears. Be careful though you might be outed as being a lackey of the white racists.

  • pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:41

    Bunch of uneducated yobs.

      pointblankza - 2010-11-10 15:41

      Actually, ill-mannered, disrespectful, self-serving, destructive yobs.

  • AlfredNeuman - 2010-11-10 15:41

    Yet another loud mouthed, infantile foot stomping temper tantrum. If the ANCYL shut their fly traps for long enough to read a book maybe they wouldn't be the laughing stock of everyone whose bothered to find out who they are.

  • Boerseun - 2010-11-10 15:42

    Analyzed, what a joke considering the ninwits that form that organization. They simply hate the law, especially when one of their thieving buddies finally gets his day in court. There's another fish that needs to be fried and that one is much bigger and then I want to hear them complain.

  • DeonL - 2010-11-10 15:51

    It sounds like the ANCYL in Northern Cape is part of this illegal gravy train, maybe they should too be investigated!

  • bill - 2010-11-10 15:53

    The spineless JZ should wake up and control these elements of the ANC -if he is willing and able.His ability to sire illegitimate children does not improve his image of a weak leader , beholden to anyone with a chequebook.

  • wduv - 2010-11-10 15:56

    No! The ANCYL is dissatisfied!! Anything but that!!

  • wduv - 2010-11-10 16:00

    Noooooo!! The ANCYL is dissatisfied! Anything but that!!

  • Mike or Mpho - 2010-11-10 16:02

    proof how week and pathetic the ANC is

  • paullouis.louw - 2010-11-10 16:07

    What's the purpose of the ANCYL?What have they done that is good?

  • Zolani - 2010-11-10 16:11

    To: Dear Editor, I am writing to express my displeasure at the above mentioned article on your website which can be located at: Notwithstanding that fact the article is an opinion piece and everyone is entitled to their opinion, I cannot understand how such a reputable newsource such as yourself can publish such a work of ignorance. Unless the piece in question is a work of grand irony aimed at highlighting how ridiculous some of the claims against Cliff's original letter to Government are, I find its content and tone quite unacceptable. The writer states: "He uses the universal "we" to erase the differential realities of blacks and whites and thereby presents his white perspective as representing all". Indeed there are differential realities between black and white, as there are between the BBE brigade and the poor people in the slums. Cliff's letter wasn't about our differences it was about the challenges that face OUR society are. Challenges which if not met will be to the detriment of all of US. Again: “because a truly antiracist reality necessarily would lead to "whites losing stuff". So the gripes blacks and whites have with the ANC aren't for the same reasons. Cliff speaks for whites.” – I don’t even know where to start with this one. No-one needs to lose any stuff, there’s more than enough to go around if we can fix the structural issues, stop the corruption leakage through nepotism and grow the economy as is planned. And again: “When Cliff complains about corruption and how it affects the rich (read whites), he never pauses to ask how the rich got rich in the first place.” While the majority of the wealth in this country is held by white people, to equate the rich to white and the poor to black is extremely racist and in fact ignorant. Just take a drive through Bryanston or go for drinks in one of Sandton's stylish bars and see who is ordering the Moet for a view of the black/white/rich/poor debate. In fact take a look at a study by the CIA. This indicates that the gap between the rich and the poor has grown substantially since Apartheid ended. This to my mind is a consequence of the fact that the poor have barely been uplifted; while a whole stack of BBE millionaires have been unearthed. I don’t even want to begin to get into black vs. white. The point is that the poor, regardless of colour are worse off now than before, while the rich (and regardless of colour or creed) are doing just as well as ever, only there are more now. Isn't this what Cliff was trying to get at? Some other observations: "Cliff, the Radio 5 DJ, has written an anti-black manifesto which ironically is celebrated as a statement for clean government." - The writer produces no evidence to support this racist comment. The letter was a criticism of government, not a criticism for black government. In fact the writer himself criticises the government, I guess he would suggest that since he is black it is not racism (my ironometer is flashing again here). "There is a truism that must be emphasised -- the ANC has not failed white people, it has failed blacks. " - Wow, again I am flabbergasted. When a government fails, it fails its peoples. Yes the government’s failings affect the black poor majority most since these are the people who need the government's help the most, and most likely voted for the ANC. However, when I want to start a company and employ some youngsters, the governments education failings will mean that my job and as a result my competitive advantage will be badly damaged. I fail to understand how you would publish anything of this sort. Its hurtful, it’s unsubstantiated, it’s ignorant to the point of non-comprehension. The writer is patently racist himself. If he had instead talked about the differences between the poor and the elite the article would be more palatable and a lot more reasonable. As the writer comments, the stratification of South Africa now is the same as the during Apartheid with two subtle differences: • The NP government and their friends / cronies have been replaced with the ANC government and their cronies. • The middle and upper class now has a population of previously disadvantaged people. Perhaps the write would be better off analysing the points above and writing about that, providing some insight into how we fix the situation. Instead of writing about white supremacy, “slavery, colonialism and apartheid” and constantly drawing on race, he could be more topical and talk about the equality in our society as a whole and use his clearly immense intellect to provide some solutions. Yours in disgust,

      Zolani - 2010-11-10 16:19

      I came across this Artical was intresting Not my views though

      Greg - 2010-11-10 16:45

      It always boils down to being rasist with certain people. Move forward leave the past and benefit from the future. Living in the past is basically being negative. Nothing can be done about the past, so make a better future instead. Block was stealing from the poor if found guilty and this country could grow at 7% if corruption was routed out and killed.

      tebogo.r.mathoko - 2010-11-11 11:48

      Agree with You 100000000%. Firstly, What I nowadays fail to understand is the real purpose of this Newsletter (News24). When it started being online, it was more of an objective educated medium for all different happenings of RSA. There was a strict objectivity of having the right to remove anything they deem irrelevant, biased, derogatory or insulting. Nowadays since the Inception of Zuma and Malema. News24 has become the onesided critic rather than a medium that expresses online on our behalf. The only thing they seem interested in publishing is anything with Zuma and Malema Negatives without even caring to edit. Lately if you want to read about Black/White Insulting Differences you open News24. For once in a lifetime, publishing this Zolani's Article feels like one is visiting the Real News 24 Website after such a long time. It makes me still feel proud of leaving my PC online all the time and having News24 as my default always open site. Zolani, nothing much to say boet. If this Article and many more positive South African Situation Based ones were used by the current Government as their guidance, South Africa will turn around to even be better than the USA. Most of the people who always comment about Apartheid its funny because they were not even born then. we need Educated South Africans who will write about current issues affecting all of us rather than people who are always running Racistic differences. Blacks comment Whites as Racists and fools,vice versa.

      tebogo.r.mathoko - 2010-11-11 12:00

      There are many positive, nation building and mind-opening articles News24 receives on a daily basis, but its funny you choose to fill the whole website with what the ANCYL did, and the Insults the opposing parties (mainly other youth leagues or Malema Haters) are saying. we already expect fools to always insult other fools on a public site. ANCYL deems any negative comment about them or their leaders as being from Hating Whites even when the writer's name is Tebogo which normally will be a black person's name (they dont bother whether is true or not, everything about them is done by whites. they are so blind they dont even realise many of us blacks are fast loosing hope in them) then, comes the opposers, who writes all sorts of insults, degrading statements, personal name calling, and then most of Blacks will start attacking the seemingly whites about Apartheid which we hear happened even before we were born. SOME OF WHITES will retaliate by naming Blacks as fools, uneducated, not developing and all sorts. STILL YOU PUBLISH ALL THIS RUBBISH. I REQUEST YOUR REPUTABLE MEDIUM TO CONSIDER THAT THE MORE YOU ONLY PUBLISH EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT AND POSITIVE ARTICLES WITHOUT INSULTING COMMENTS, THE MORE EVERYONE WILL START REALISING THE IMPORTANCE OF POSITIVE NATION-BASED COMMENTING FOR THE SAKE OF RSA AND NOT BLACKS OR WHITES, THE MORE WE WILL HAVE ALL-ROUND POSITIVE TACKLING OF ISSUES AND EVENTUALLY THE GOVERNING INSTITUTION WILL TAKE NOTICE OF THE NEW POWER BEHIND EDUCATED RSA'S

  • devils_advo - 2010-11-10 16:17

    Sometimes you just have to think WTF.

  • SamuelMabena - 2010-11-10 16:39

    Our youth league are a national embarrassment to the organisation!!!

  • GBES - 2010-11-10 16:41

    The ancyl has loud mouths, because Zuma will not stop them.He allowed them to take over the NDYA,earning hundreds of thousands of my tax money.He allows MADlema to call people "cockcroaches" which should be exterminated ! He is afraid,very afraid, and never leads.

  • Clint - 2010-11-10 16:57

    What do the ANCYL know about the ANC that they are a law unto themselves! It is amazing that they just fob off the ANC instruction to apologize! They think they are above the law! Zuma created this problem when he didn't clip Juju wing's in the beginning! If anyone in the international world cares about us imagine how they must just shake their heads when reading this! Utterly disgraceful!

      moscow - 2010-11-10 19:02

      boet, zuma is to busy orgaising lekka tenders for his sibling at this stage, the kindergarden sideshow called the ANCYL is not on his agenda

      Zepher69 - 2010-11-11 09:25

      If you take notice you will see SA has no president as he does not do anything connected to running this country.We (SA) have already been given over to thugs that WILL destroy this last working African country. Wake up froggies the water is getting hot

  • FerretGee - 2010-11-10 20:32

    It is scary that the ANCYL is contunually allowed to say inflamatory things against anyone who they don't like or who disagrees with their opinions. They are not the voice of the youth anymore, they are a wannabe political party and want a dictatorship rule over the people of this country. The ANC keep saying that THEY are the rulers of the country but they still allow thier youth league to run riot. Why? What does the ANCYL know about the ANC that they are so scared of?

      tebogo.r.mathoko - 2010-11-11 12:17

      FerretGee. I think you and I, and many more others have been misled into barking at the wrong Tree. e.g. When your dog keeps on Loudly barking at nothing like the ANCYL, you simply chain it in a DOG House. It has been long the ANCYL they have been barking unnecessarily but the owner doesnt see any reason to chain them. So, Broer, I think the main problem (which we have been overlooking) is not the YL but the Main ANC. This is where the main root of the problem lies. However many times we call Malema and his Sub-Party, we are wasting time because we are looking at the Branches and think we are removing the tree. the Stump and Roots are still left in the form of ANC. From Zuma to the Last Clerk under the government salary package, I dont think any of them has Merit Qualifications and Skills to do the given duty. Its all "Broerskap" system. The ANCYL are just expressing the Real Colours of the Bigger Brother. Untill Zuma goes out, lets just forget about any change to come on his doings. Malema is just Expressing what Zuma wants to Express but is prevented by parliamentary policies. So what better way to express your feelings in public than to send your Little Bro. And we all hope he will rein Malema In. That will be stopping his own mission and failing his Agenda.

  • JuJu Caesar Malemani - 2010-11-11 12:19

    LOL! Simelane was specifically appointed by Zuma in order to prevent any form of arms deal inquisition...and when Simelane actually does something good for a change - the ANCYL complains about it...Anton Lembede must be rolling in his grave!

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