AfriForum goes to court over youth training

2011-08-01 17:53

Cape Town - AfriForum Youth will bring a court application to force the department of defence, rural development and land reform, and the National Rural Youth Service Corps (Narysec) to publicise information about the youth training due to take place during this week at the Saldanha military base.

"AfriForum youth discovered that approximately 8 000 young people will receive training in the near future at military bases in, among other things, life skills and artisanship," spokesperson Charl Oberholzer said in a statement on Monday.

According to the organisers the young people would be trained in "patriotism" and "discipline", but they would not receive "military training", he said.

One group had already been trained at the De Brug military base in Bloemfontein and an intake of 1 000 young people would take place at Saldanha.

"A confidential source informed AfriForum Youth that the group which will be trained at Saldanha was recruited from the ranks of the ANC Youth League.

"However, this could not be confirmed yet," said Oberholzer.


In 2010, the defence department announced it would start a programme called National Youth Service to train young people at military bases

Among others, the ANCYL and the Young Communist League would also have undergone training.

Using the Access to Information Act, AfriForum Youth had asked the minister of defence to answer various questions, Oberholzer said.

These included how members were recruited to take part in the training programmes, whether the individuals being training were affiliated to any political party or specific organisation, and how Narysec was composed and what was its function.

Others were on the constitutional documents or empowering legislation of this organisation, the programme content and learning material to be used for the training, and which subjects would be included in the training.

"AfriForum Youth was met with hostility when the request was submitted and no answers were provided to AfriForum Youth’s questions," said Oberholzer.

"AfriForum Youth will now continue to force abovementioned institutions, on the strength of a court order, to publicise the information as requested," he said.

The defence department had been "secretive" since the beginning.


"Initially it was announced that the programme will focus on the ANC Youth League and the Young Communist League, until we objected.

"It is now reported that it isn't military training, but the department of defence is still involved and the training is still taking place at military bases.

"Moreover, no invitation was sent to AfriForum Youth, despite our requests to be invited and that we even contacted the minister."

Oberholzer said AfriForum Youth had no objection against training programmes which provided young people with life skills, but a lot of unanswered questions still remained.

"The department of defence’s aggression and secrecy now compel us to force them with a court order to publicise the information.

"The possibility of further action will be considered as soon as the information, as requested, is publicised," he said.

  • THE.SRG - 2011-08-01 17:59

    Very fishy!

      thinkza - 2011-08-01 18:02


      Creeky - 2011-08-01 18:07

      Like HITLER'S BROWN SHIRTS? ANC's BLACK SHIRTS???? Readying themselves for the REVOLUTION that Malema brags about in PUBLIC!!!!

      Martin - 2011-08-01 18:22

      Mugabe's youth brigades. These people have even been issued military type uniforms. I dont trust and dont see any good coming from this !! The ANC never fails to astonish me with their actions. The uneducated, radical youth need to be put back in their place, not trained up at military barracks. If you think they dangerous, arrogant and unmanageable now, wait and see. This is still nothing!

      SaintBruce - 2011-08-01 18:24

      Hitler Jurgend? ( Youth movement - not sure of spelling) very para-military concept also used extensively by communist movements as 'conditioning' camps!

      the mc - 2011-08-01 20:05

      isn't this absurd folks. it is my tax money that is used to fund these projects.but i have to get a court order JUST FOR INFORMATION? eitlik to whom is the government occountable to..aowa batho.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-02 02:10

      I am seriously grappling with the legality of this entire issue. If these people are trained by the Department of Defence then they are soldiers - period. There are laws in place for the selection and training of soldiers - no need for any new entity to be formed. In fact the selections of these people may be grossly unconstitutional. Where is the DA on this matter..? Why must Afriforum face the gauntlet every time - we did not vote them into the official opposition. If these people are not soldiers then why are they not being trained by the Department of Education..? Make "Life Skills" a certificate course at colleges (or alike). Please read the speech done on 17 Mar 2011 (below). This is an overt militarisation of the rural communities. Why..? To facilitate farm invasions..? Please excuse the 'conspiracy' tone, but kindly refer to the extracts from the said speech: [quote] how the NARYSEC programme can more effectively contribute to achieving the objectives of agrarian transformation [unquote] Note: “agrarian” is an adjective relating to agricultural land tenure/occupancy. [quote] equitable land allocation [unquote] [quote] strict production discipline for guaranteed national food security [unquote] The content of the speech was issued by the Dept of Rural Development and Land Reform. Why is the Dept of Land Reform working with the Military..? cont. below..,

      Spyker May - 2011-08-02 02:13

      Land invasions are coming – not sure how, but it is coming and it will be done under military force (Nazi style). These people will then be used to work the land to ensure food security. If you resist you will face military action – iow civil war... This is no longer a joke. It is now getting very serious. There needs to be international intervention. To attempt to reverse a Libyan situation is going to be an unimaginable hell. For the first time in my life I hope I am completely wrong – you judge for yourself: The speech,

      1boer1taxi - 2011-08-02 07:23

      You mean the ANC dirty shirts.

      Wizard101 - 2011-08-02 10:13

      Animal farm all over again

  • william.botha - 2011-08-01 18:02

    Hostile takeover, no lawyers, definitely no lawyers.

      Mad Hatter - 2011-08-03 08:24

      Oh how i hear the Bells

  • Hamrammr - 2011-08-01 18:09

    Thor's brute power and the courage of Tyr, Odins cunning and the might of his spear! Thats what we as Europeans in Africa need if we want to see another year...

      Neles - 2011-08-01 18:35

      you consider yourself a european in africa and not south african? no wonder you require greek mythology to "save" you

      Doublepost - 2011-08-01 21:29

      That's Norse Mythology you prick!

      Creeky - 2011-08-01 22:24

      "Passes Neles HIS SIGN".....

      clayton_stm - 2011-08-02 07:33

      valhala wag

  • george60 - 2011-08-01 18:13

    Funny graffi lately?

  • 50something - 2011-08-01 18:15

    Apartheid all over again ... Have they learned nothing from the past?

      edalsg - 2011-08-01 18:21


      thinkza - 2011-08-01 18:21

      Some do not learn lessons from the past to make a positive contribution to the future. They get stuck there and blame all their faults on the previous regime.

      sefeddt - 2011-08-01 19:18

      This is more ominous, it appears tp be elected on political afilliation. Very much Mugabe Zanu PF youth brigade.

  • Carlin - 2011-08-01 18:23

    Get your heads out of the sand white men. Nelson Mandela will not live long.

      PAnzi_ne_ANC - 2011-08-01 18:53


      Shadoz - 2011-08-01 19:36

      Carlin trust me we do. I know we are in for a long road ahead of us but belive me there are a lot of us "white men"

  • Eric West - 2011-08-01 18:35

    Viva Afriforum, vivaaaaaaaaaa!! Whatever shall we do without you and the DA?

      ZotBot - 2011-08-01 21:05

      We need to do more !!! Time for the whites to unite again !!!

      johan.marneweck.9 - 2012-06-21 13:01

      My friend the DA is letting you down

  • Eric West - 2011-08-01 18:38

    Madam Sisulu is die drol in die drinkwater!

  • Mercenary - 2011-08-01 18:39

    Good for you AfriForum Youth League!!!!!

  • Lynne - 2011-08-01 18:47

    Smells like the Zanu PF youth camps. Not a good thing.

      Eric West - 2011-08-01 19:11

      It's exactly like the Zanu PF youth brigades!

  • Shabalala - 2011-08-01 18:51

    How crazy is this training. We need to ask why ??

  • struth - 2011-08-01 18:56

    Ok News Media. Keep yourselves posted over Saldhana Military Camp, and let us know what gives. Are you paying attention DA, this is going to happen in your own province! No smoke without fire.

  • Worker - 2011-08-01 19:09

    So, ANC-YL training, meddling in other countries, nationalising, amassing personal fortunes, WHERE have we seen this before ? I believe it is already too late to save this country, as we have allowed so many of the positive things have been, or are being, destroyed. Why, with the best of everything in Africa, are we becoming another failure ?

  • Denise - 2011-08-01 19:11

    Just like Hitler. Youth brigades. Indoctrinate and infiltrate! These methods were used by all dictators down through the ages. I do hope that Afriforum and the thinking South African public don't take this lying down. To the man in the street, this is a very serious issue that will have far reaching implications if it is not monitored and exposed.

  • Agent Bastad - 2011-08-01 19:18

    Where is the DA youth?

      Creeky - 2011-08-01 22:27

      DA youth are at Varsity... or School... STUDYING...

      nvl - 2011-08-02 05:56

      The DA youth is sitting in La-La Land looking at the pretty colours of a rainbow, patting unicorns and chasing butterflies.

  • jock - 2011-08-01 19:21

    even with training from the SADF they will be a waste of time

  • Other Justin - 2011-08-01 19:23

    I really hate saying things like this, but in order to balance this we need private military training camps for white youth. Not for a war, but for self defense should the need arise from these para military training for a radical ANCYL. This is pathetic, the cANCer are just not interested in peace, they want unrest and maybe even war.

  • twin1 - 2011-08-01 19:24

    If its so good why is it so secret??????????

  • Shadoz - 2011-08-01 19:25

    They can get all the training in the world they will always fail. There greed will be there own downfall. There level of intelligance never seems to amaze me. We all say that when there is nothing left the masses will revolt but i have yet to see this in Zim. We all need to wake up.

  • JedEye - 2011-08-01 19:31

    GENOCIDE ALERT!!! To the white people of South Africa: I implore you to make arrangements to protect the personal safety of yourselves and your loved ones. It is clear that the the ANCYL has inflitrated the minds of the masses, hell-bent on retribution, and have garnered enough public support among the black youth of SA to begin pushing towards a coup of the less radical ANC and militant occupation of white owned land. Feeding off of racial tension, Malema is inciting a full-scale effort to destabilize the country, whose resources will then become vulnerable to exploitation (probably from China or the U.S). In fact, it is likely that Chinese business is the primary benefactor of the Ratatang family trust. War is now inevitable. I just pray that when the dust settles, we still have our wildlife reserves.

      Allieo - 2011-08-01 21:02

      Rather just pray that when the dust settles you will be alive........ Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh but from your comment i can see that you don't fully understand the magnitude of the situation.......

  • Anonymous Thinker - 2011-08-01 19:37

    Sounds like back in the day when Apartheid had training camps for it's youth.....

      Agent Bastad - 2011-08-01 19:47


      Nico Fourie - 2011-08-01 19:58

      We trained to protect every citizen in this country...were you ever there ?

  • Bart Zimzon - 2011-08-01 19:37

    All pointing to a TOTALITARIAN REGIME in the making: - government allied youth, training in camps a la "Hitler Jugend" - spewing hatred and racism by their leader, with seemingly approval of the regime. - stashing away of money in hidden accounts (trusts come to mind) or overseas (lots of gov. employees travelling overseas on a regular base, for what?) - racist labour policies to exclude a part of the population to make a living. - genocide against a minority of the population (rural farmers) - ready to move a certain population group(coloureds) to a different area where they will have no opportunities or little chance of making a living. and carry doesn't end.

  • Jurie - 2011-08-01 19:39

    Zimbabwe staan opsy, hier kom Suid Afrika! Lights flashing and its not green!

  • Juggernaut - 2011-08-01 19:44

    Get out of South Africa if you can. There are no more excuses for the educated and bright young youth to stay. GO and good luck.

      Bill - 2011-08-01 20:37

      Well said Juggernaut...!

      johan.marneweck.9 - 2012-06-21 13:07

      From what? From the fat into the fire!!!!

  • Bill - 2011-08-01 20:36

    This Bul*sh*t must not be tolerated...! The time has come to make a stand...!

  • Ozman - 2011-08-02 02:31

    Training for the "WAR" is underway

  • Octo - 2011-08-02 05:22

    This training is done in preparation in case they lose the next elections. They will then use these semi-soldiers to prevent the opposition from taken over.

  • Vince.York - 2011-08-02 07:34

    SINISTER impression created for the local and international communities! South Africa's image is fast tending towards the zanu-pf dictatorship style of Zimbabwe and even worse, towards the worst sectors created in Nazi Germany, the old USSR and some parts of the developing nations/3rd world - where outright anti-social brutality, murder and ethnic cleansing has been exercised. Brain washing is the first step!

  • PowerPuffGrl - 2011-08-02 07:37

    At this rate we are heading for civil war and it will not be long before we get there. Why oh why are we not learning from the past? And will the words patriotism and common goal ever have meaning in SA again?

  • charlesaduplessis - 2011-08-02 07:57

    We need a strong Afriforum Youth leader to oppose Malema and the ANC youth leage. The current leadership lacks the "bite" and will forever be laughed at. Start making your mark and why not do our own training? I mean we are more qualified than these smirks anyway and were exposed to military action at a very young age, we have mastered the tactics and can surely ensure much better quality training than the current Millitary instructors. Maybe I need to come show you how it's done.. you are to quiet, you are like a little "Skoot Brakkie" all bark and no bite..

  • Gibbonater - 2011-08-02 08:23

    And so the youth storm troopers take shape. Look at the rest of Africa, still begging and expecting help from the white man in the west. They to will dstroy this country and then go begging. The only difference between a beggar in the street anbd an african politician is that the one wears a suit and thnks he looks cool.

  • Dinti - 2011-08-02 14:45


  • daaivark - 2011-08-03 08:10

    WHAT IS THIS SHIT! I thought that with the demise of conscription and the establishment of a democracy we would be establishing a nation at peace and that it would be unnecessary for my children to have to go through this humiliating militaristic rubbish. This undoubted attempt at militarising the young is a complete reversal of everything we thought liberation would achieve. SHAME ON WHOMEVER THOUGHT THIS LOT UP! GUNS ARE FOR THOSE WHO LACK THE GUTS TO STAND UP FOR THINGS IN A RATIONAL MANNER. "Lessons in patriotism" - my foot. This is indoctrination of the first water.

  • WCD - 2011-08-03 08:26

    there will be war, no matter how naive and liberal you are, this has gone to far

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