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Agang: Divided opposition bad for SA

2014-01-31 07:06

Johannesburg - A divided political opposition does not serve the best interests of South Africa, Agang SA said on Thursday.

"We believe... that divided political parties, in particular opposition parties, don't serve the interests of South Africa," the party's Gauteng chairperson Andries Tlouamma said.

"If the ruling party dies without meaningful opposition, the country dies with it."

He was speaking after leader Mamphela Ramphele held a private meeting with Agang SA officials at the party's office in Johannesburg earlier on Thursday.

On Tuesday, Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille announced Ramphele would be the DA's presidential candidate in the general elections this year.

"Our leader [Ramphele] spoke to us and took us through, in relation to the announcement which was made at the DA press conference [on Tuesday]," said Tlouamma.

"She gave us reasons why she believed the best way to prepare an opposition party to replace the ANC was to consolidate the opposition."

‘We need to confront the truth’

Agang SA did not want political parties in South Africa to be based on colour or race, but rather wanted a multi-racial party at the centre of South Africa.

"We agreed with her, even if the truth might be painful, if we believe in this country becoming the best. We need to confront the truth even if it is painful," he said.

"Sometimes the best way to change people is to involve them and convince them to persuade people."

On Wednesday, DA federal chairperson Wilmot James said although Ramphele was the presidential candidate she was not yet a DA member.

He said this would be handled by a technical committee.

James said the two parties intended on merging, but had not yet done so.

"The DA and Agang SA have agreed to merge."

The merger would happen as soon as possible, said James.

Comments
  • Sam Sankambe - 2014-01-31 07:19

    DA GANG is confused.

      Karel Kotz - 2014-01-31 07:35

      Oh and the Anc and Eff are not? Haha the Anc can't even solve the education system, corruption, toll road dilemma, sanitation and housing, missing spy satellite to monitor the fire pool level at certain important places etc. And not to mention the Eff. All they care about is the fashion statement regarding their red berets, which by the way the Anc also wear just to confuse the Eff hahaha (there was an article about that).

      Fanie Viljoen - 2014-01-31 07:37

      doesn't matter, the leaders are smart people with a good track record. Hope this will be the answer!

      Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat - 2014-01-31 07:49

      At least their leaders don't get arrested for speeding... And tax fraud... And corruption...

      Rinus Groeneveld - 2014-01-31 08:04

      @Karel - they only appear to be confused! They know EXACTLY what they want ... confuse the masses, do not educate them, make empty promises every 5 years and hand out t-shirts and food parcels just before the election. And Bob's their Uncle! Then they can be as corrupt as possible for another 5 years while being protected by the Secrecy Bill, the Security Cluster, the useless Education department, NPID, and as a last resort, the Correctional Services medical parole system!

      Bullet Proof - 2014-01-31 08:06

      You are confused and you born like that.

      OhbiZz Chabata - 2014-01-31 08:16

      Aweeee AGANG! Now we talking :D

      Gerald Nchabeleng - 2014-01-31 08:17

      Will Agang be contesting in the general election or not? If so who shall be its presidential canditate? Please Agang, stop talking on principle and conceptual morality viewpoints and be pragmatic. Some of us have an election to prepare for

      Mabena da Don - 2014-01-31 08:26

      DA GANG is no longer confused The DA GANG is dead (RIP)! what's funny is ANC still going strong! join the ANC movement...

      Toby Clive Goss - 2014-01-31 08:55

      you wish

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-01-31 09:01

      Tefelo we will have to make sure that they never try and buy you then. We can not have them confused any more.

      CandiceH - 2014-01-31 09:10

      @Tefelo how can you describe a woman who has a doctorate as "stupid". I mean really. I am sure that Ramphele is 100 times more qualified than you will ever be so if she is "stupid" (despite being DR. Mamphela Ramphele and being deeply involved in political South Africa for several decades) then that must make you a complete bottom feeder.

      Revelgen - 2014-01-31 16:14

      Sam and Tefelo - give it up guys. You can't defend the indefensible. Only people who don't care about integrity and good governance will be voting for the ANC. And your story about 'DA will bring back apartheid' is rapidly flying out the window with all these 'stupid' Blacks joining, hey? (As if 9% of the population could ever re-impose it on the other 91% - you need to be a bit confused to believe that.) As for the ANC Roll of Honour: Selebi, Cele, Sheryl Cwele (now ex-wife of the Info minister who 'didn't know she was smuggling drugs', Robert 'The Bomber McBride, hundreds of other crooks and - and ta da! the Chief, who has over 700 unresolved cases of fraud, racketeering and money laundering against him, along with Nkandla. Great govt to try and defend, guys, great govt.

  • Shaun Whatley - 2014-01-31 07:19

    Agang is power.

      Mandy Pepler - 2014-01-31 08:51

      Shaun this is probably the best move made by these two parties. We need to rebuild our rainbow nation where all are treated equal. These two woman can do it, they have a mammoth task ahead of them if they win votes but at least it's a step in the right direction for ALL South Africans.

  • Kay-Gee Abel Mothibi - 2014-01-31 07:22

    What is the hesitation for? Merge up already! People have to get used to the combination of the two parties for a reasonable time before the elections. People are busy getting used to ANC and its ideas as you waste time. Lepotla potla leja pudi ladies.

      Shaun Whatley - 2014-01-31 07:29

      Merge already? Its friday morning. They broke the news on tuesday. Dont u think u might be rushing? Or is 2 days enough time?

  • Patricia Dewet - 2014-01-31 07:28

    Make sense

  • Phungo Lesley Raphalalani - 2014-01-31 07:29

    Wow , I am like that. black and white who are racist is ur personal problem. Rainbow nation.

      Sphesh Nondumiso Hlatshwayo - 2014-01-31 07:42

      Yes Phungo a Rainbow Nation Tata Would be proud of :-)

      SIMPLYSOUTHAFRICAN - 2014-01-31 08:09

      Anthony my dear friend. This attitude will bring nobody anywhere. Unless you want to go to war ?

      moles - 2014-01-31 08:11

      I am happy for you Phungo ,what bugs me though is the fact that we all know that both races are pretending to like one another but as soon as they are back in their little holes then thier true colors come out .

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-01-31 09:22

      Sadly there are still many inconvenient truths within the myth of the rainbow nation. It is true that on an individual level many have found common ground and respect and have made lasting relationships. But on a general level there is still far to great a disparity between different ethnic groups. And this disparity has less to do with financial wealth, and a great deal more to do with education, basic intelligence, respect for the rights of others and general morality. Only when everyone in the country operates to the same moral standard and receives the same levels of life instruction from both parents and educators, and is set the right example by the leaders of the country will we be able to call ourselves one cohesive nation. We have a long way to go , but this merge is a very good start!

      Antony John - 2014-02-01 18:40

      Just like the keys on piano, black and white together and unified, we'll make beautiful music and the world will sit up and take notice. At the moment they're just laughing at our president...

  • Khanyo Ngwane - 2014-01-31 07:30

    Why no merger? Is it true that this is a rent a leader story?

      Shaun Whatley - 2014-01-31 07:37

      No. What about this lady makes you think she is so weak? What makes you think she can be bought? The DA could not afford to rent a lady of this calibre. They r doing what they think is best for our future. We must unite not fight.

      Gerald Nchabeleng - 2014-01-31 08:51

      at Shaun, I will try my best to answer you. When Dr Ramphele formed Agang did she not defend her decision not to join the DA amongst other things by saying that DA did not have a robust black affirmative action policy? Even though their policies were similar was this not a point of departure? When she formed Agang did she not advocate transparency and consultation above all? Yet when she formed the party how much secrecy surrounded that, for example how long did it take to know her captains and field marshals? Ok, you can argue fear of intimidation from the ANC. But then what about this marriage to the DA? Did she not post on Sunday eve! that those were just rumours and within 12 hours the announcement, sealed with a kiss, was made? Even today people within and without Agang do not know whether a merger is on the cards or whether Agang will contest the general election. A firm leader will not have left the mess she created to a captain, she would have held a press conference to allay fears and reconnect with not just her constituencies but with potential future members. Then the issue of her finances, mostly BBBEE transactions which she seems to hate. She said she was worth 55million or so, Forbes put her at 500 million, she did not respond to that, further putting her in disrepute. Her CV is littered with amazing achievements in the fields of academia and business, but what has she really individually achieved? At UCT she felt non existent....

      Gerald Nchabeleng - 2014-01-31 09:29

      I was a student there at the time. She was very inconspicuous. Then her tenure at the World Bank, I would have wished her more visible and proactive in the international scene, viz a viv Thabo Mbeki and Koffi Annan. I do concede though I might be a tad unfair here, either way my other points hold true for me, and in no way does that mean I defend, empathize with or defend the incumbent ruling party and president

      Shaun Whatley - 2014-01-31 14:16

      she has not joined da and left agang. She is da presidential candidate, which would give her great opportunity to guide da towards agang policies. It seems good for agang to me. So she is strengthening agang as well as da. where the rumours on sunday that she has joined da? Was the rumour that she was leaving agang? No one asked her is she the presidential candidate for da. Anyway you are allowed to release info to the media when you want. She did not have to say anything on sunday she wanted to say it on tuesday. Which was only two days ago. And pretty much all the confusion is gone. she benefited from bee in a big way. Does that mean you cannot have any ideas on how to improve the affirmative action. We can see that only a few benefit from bee, so can she. Why cant she say so, and attempt to improve? Sorry cant really comment about your forbes data, not sure about that. And so what if you feel non existent at uni? Is it only the big boys on campus that mean anything. Thanks for your reply but this does not tell me why she can be bought or why she is weak. U even list her achievements and then ask me what has she personally achieved. I dont get it bro, u just listed them.

  • John Bass - 2014-01-31 07:31

    We have to analyse our differences and rationalise. Mrs Ramphele has identified where the problems in SA lie. Agang members started the party with the same motivation as the DA has had since inception. Clean governance and boost the economy by training the population, specifically the youth. we need a united front against the anc nepotism and corruption. Good if Agang joins the DA, the DA is not a white party despite many opposition claims. It is and must be the party which leads us out of this horrendous mess that the anc have taken us into. as they seem not to care except their bank balances. This is not what Madiba had envisioned. why do you think he distanced himself from poltics after only 5 years ? Use the skills we have - even if they are with the white engineers and artisans - and get the skills transferred so that we can have a vibrant manufacturing industry.

      Sizwe Nyamane - 2014-01-31 07:45

      may be it is time for a change bt AGADA!!!

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-01-31 09:28

      Mr Mlongo, sadly you are right! And this must change for us all to progress as a nation.

  • Sphesh Nondumiso Hlatshwayo - 2014-01-31 07:33

    ZANC bad for SA

  • Khuliso Mutsha - 2014-01-31 07:33

    The biggest problem is politicians who are power hungry, the likes of Ramphele, she is not going to serve from the background if that one strong opposition is to be established, Lekota, Buthelezi, and even Malema wont serve under anyone else, these people want to lead at all cost.

      Dion Roder - 2014-01-31 08:03

      I think one of her driving forces is the mooted leadership vacuum in the DA should Helen retire. She has a lot of credentials, massive driving force and will be a major contender...

  • Sifiso - 2014-01-31 07:37

    Did they thought through this merger these two leaders? Maye be the decision was based on emotions and hatred. I start to wonder when the country will have best alternative political organisation to vote for. Recently Ramphele told South African that she will never join the DA, but she did the opposit.

      Lo Philips - 2014-01-31 09:14

      Zuluboy, I am amazed! An ANC supporter who's eyes went open. There is hope for this country after all. Very well said and please use your knowledge and talent to educate the masses who don't want to see what everyone else with 2 or more brain cells is seeing.

      Antony John - 2014-02-01 18:44

      Respect Mr. Mhlongo...

  • Gary Haslecker - 2014-01-31 07:37

    Exactly people...5 more years of Zuma & Co's theft, corruption, lies, empty promises, etolls, no jobs, no text books, crap healthcare, etc, etc. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE - WAKE UP!!! OR 5 years of something new with lots of hope with Ramphele...a new majority for all people of South Africa...move away from race politics! Its the next stage of our development. Make the choice: 5 more years of Zuma or Ramphele? The time to stand together united & opposed & vote is now or dont complain about Zuma & the cancer! Simple!

  • Hlabiwa Letlhaka - 2014-01-31 07:41

    Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa...divided?ANC WILL TAKE OVER BOSS...

      Jaco Visser - 2014-01-31 07:47

      you sir, are as blind as the rest of the people that vote for the ANC. WAKE UP MAN!!

      Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat - 2014-01-31 07:52

      Talk again in 5 years when all you've had is protests, murder, rape, corruption and poverty. When dealing with addicts, you sometimes need them to first hit rock bottom before you can start helping them. Perhaps the same applies here...

      Mabena da Don - 2014-01-31 08:00

      da gang! is for losers A.N.C is the future! if you cant beat them join the movement...

      Colin Dovey - 2014-01-31 08:14

      Hector Pietersen's sister has now joined the movement for change......

      Luzuko Mtoyi - 2014-01-31 08:49

      @Jaco, and the people that vote the DA are not blind? Even when they have been the official opposition for so long, they still think they can govern using the same strategies? If the DA needs to win, they need to 'show' why to the Black majority. Majority wins elections, not "clean" leaders. Mamphela and Zille have the best CV's career-wise, but does that translate to WINNING votes? NO. It is the staunch DA supporter that is blind......

  • Katlego Nikita Moeng - 2014-01-31 07:46

    sounds like a solid move. well done!!!

  • mica gogome - 2014-01-31 07:49

    Eish!!!

  • Phana Dube - 2014-01-31 07:49

    Forget about opposing all of join the anc and lets work together for a betta south africa.

      Master Builder - 2014-01-31 08:01

      Rather give 200 million rand to Nkandla than build toilets at schools in Limpopo. No thanks that's not what I call working together.

      Phana Dube - 2014-01-31 08:08

      So you were happy during the apartheid era now feel it, It is here its called black rule its either you cooperate or u jump.

      Colin Dovey - 2014-01-31 08:18

      Hector Pietersen's sister has joined the non-racialistic DA now.....that is very significant......the movement for change...away from a racially obsessed ANC is failing fast....exciting times we live in....

      Shaun Whatley - 2014-01-31 08:49

      I am with you on the first comment. Yes lets work together. But then one comment later you say " co operate or jump". Come on brother, u better than that.

      Antony John - 2014-02-01 18:47

      Phana confused much, one part of you wants to be non-racist, but unfortunately the stronger part is a strong racist....Honest people will never vote for a party that steals and plunders, living lavish lifestyles while the people that gave them the vote, live in shacks with no food. Never ever...

  • Frans Mosia - 2014-01-31 07:50

    She could have joined DA instead of creating another opposition, if this is true. Or she knew that by joining DA straight forward she was not going to be a presidential candidate.

      Tshilidzi Walter Rudzani - 2014-01-31 07:56

      True that. why did she form hers?

  • Lesia Mohale - 2014-01-31 07:57

    DA has swallowed Agang, starting with the haed and now the body is busy being swallowed.

      Sizwe Gwala - 2014-01-31 09:01

      Like a python?

      Antony John - 2014-02-01 18:49

      The ANC have swallowed SARS and now poverty is swallowing the people like a crocodile...

  • Vincent Ndlovu - 2014-01-31 07:59

    The best way for these gogos is dissolve both parties come up with a new party Zille as president Ramphela as vice cause this merger sounds as if someone is being using as fronting. Dissolve both parties come up with a new structural committee and share ideas in terms of policy moving forward.

  • Ernest Ratjatji - 2014-01-31 08:01

    where is cope?exactly what i foresee.

  • Ntaboli Mosenogi - 2014-01-31 08:07

    There is nothing u can do that can't be done, these 2 ladies what they trying 2 do has failed even be 4 it started,.. Rainbow Nation is a myth.

  • Mfelasakhe Mahlangu - 2014-01-31 08:08

    As long as we are talking about multi-racial as opposed to to nonracial we we are far from tackling the race issue in this country. The result of this is that the DA always need a 'black' face to attract black voters and the ANC will need a 'coloured' face to attract coloured voters. Some would say may its a good place to start but I believe it is not the way to go about it. Blacks who join the DA will always be seen as sellouts who join a 'white' party and similarly the whites joining the ANC or EFF. That is why there is even a talk about a ' a 'black caucus' in the DA. The day Zille feels confident to go anywhere in the country to campaign without feeling her skin colour is either an advantage or disadvantage and, the day no one will believe that the DA will bring back apartheid we will have resolved the mistrust among race groups. The way to go about it is to work hard at it and not to take short cuts. I want to trust and believe Zille not because there is Musi next to her but I honestly believe that she understands my situation not only as a black person in South Africa in 2014 but also as fellow human being. If we had to be honest as a country we are not working hard enough on building nonracialism.

      Christiaan Roesch - 2014-01-31 08:38

      Great input Mfelasakhe.

      Louwrens C Stassen - 2014-01-31 09:03

      Dear Mfelasakhe Mahlangu, the problem with your comment is.. is that too many South Africans aren't as smart and rational as you.

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-01-31 10:27

      Louwrrens, sadly this is still true, and many can not understand how this is possible in 2014, and get very frustrated with the seemingly illogical choices many of the majority make. But we have to accept the reality that many of these people even 20 years into the new South African history have little education and ability to change their lives. They have no understanding of modern politics or economics. In fact they have little idea even of how to basically sustain themselves without assistance. But they are told that they are free, and that the ones that freed them is the ANC, and that if they stop supporting the ANC they will become slaves again and apartheid will return. And at the moment the ANC has the largest structures at ground level to keep the masses believing their lies. And even when failed service delivery is blatantly the the fault of the ANC they just lie and blame someone else. And as most people understand that all these facilities originally come from the umlungu, it must be their fault. And as long as the ANC continue with their policies of delaying and not implementing the code of basic norms for education and keeping the educational expectations at the lowest possible levels, this sector of the country will continue in abject poverty and will continue to support the ANC because they are afraid to do anything different! We still have a very long way to go, but this merger of two strong morally correct groups to strengthen the opposition is a good start!

  • Peta Steyn - 2014-01-31 08:08

    DA and AGANG - well done in putting differences aside and standing together. This is the only way forward for a strong South Africa :) At the end of the day both of you want the same things - a strong economy, good education and job creation. With a leading team with good track records, we can't go wrong!

      Petro Jahnel - 2014-01-31 09:23

      Agree! Well said!

  • moles - 2014-01-31 08:09

    One day this will backfire and the real DA suportes will feel vindicated because then the DA will have shifted its policy trying to please everyone that it has lured into the party .I like the FFplus because its clear on its policy and it won`t compromise just to get more suport .

      Phana Dube - 2014-01-31 08:13

      Well said. U c u are ffplus and im eff and our policies are non negotiable. We dont policies over night to please a bunch of clueless losers.

      moles - 2014-01-31 08:19

      Phana dont get me wrong i am not an FFPlus suporter ,i dont think i will ever be .

      moles - 2014-01-31 08:41

      Zuluboy notedhowever its hard to believe what you saying,not so long ago the very same Mamphela said the DA was a white party and now all of a sudden she has changed her tune because a carrot was dangled in her face . The ANC is still negotiating the economic freedom with the so called white minority and its also trying to adjust the imbalances created by the apartheid regime and in the process they (ANC )dont want to step on the wrong toes.The main problem here is our leaders have been deprived of all these luxuries during the apartheid system and they feel that they have done this counrty a lot of good and they deserve to eat which is what they are doing .

      moles - 2014-01-31 09:14

      Hence i said its a problem Zuluboy and it needs to be stoped.

      Antony John - 2014-02-01 18:57

      Moles and how do you propose that the ANC is stopped of eating the good life while their millions supporters that put them there are battling. The only way you're ever going to stop them is to vote them out. Have you seen what happens when you take an icecream away from a small, child, they hold onto it and won't let go. That's exactly what the ANC are doing enjoying the good life (the ice-cream) and they won't give it up for anything in the world, cause they know they just have to hold up the apartheid card every five years and the masses will keep voting them in. The country can't sustain their greed for too much longer. It's a ticking time bomb.

  • Tlou Mzeke Ramoroka - 2014-01-31 08:25

    Best news for Friday consumption, A united opposition will set us free. Remember if ANC is doing what apartheid did to you then you must do what ANC did to apartheid. Time for change is now. I vote for a multiracial party for a multiracial country. Lets show them that food parcel will not buy votes

  • Martin Bekker - 2014-01-31 08:31

    Agang ,Don't start crying about who is nice with who,, you will get votes as judged by your actions ,,, start leading.

  • Sandile Buthelezi - 2014-01-31 08:45

    So is Ramphele suppoze to win the black voters?

      Martin Bekker - 2014-01-31 09:04

      are you a racist Boet ?

      Mbulelo Nkohla - 2014-01-31 09:33

      @ Martin, Sandile is asking a legitimate question, afterall the DA could have courted Steve Hofmeyer if demographics were'nt an issue here, imo anyway

      Bhekinkosi Langa - 2014-01-31 10:00

      Sandile could u please clarify what Mandela's Legacy is all about?

      Antony John - 2014-02-01 19:00

      Ramphele has attracted my vote and I'm white. Much rather vote for an educated leader than someone who doesn't even have a matric.

  • mapetsula - 2014-01-31 08:46

    What I like people of SA can see what is good. This Gogo can lead the country trust her and don't forget she will explain later.

  • John Davids - 2014-01-31 08:47

    Just can't understand this ANC faithfull. Vote ANC and protest the next day for service delivery

  • Teflon Don - 2014-01-31 08:52

    He really is an A grade nit-wit after some flimsy private session with the doc his now changing tunes ,2nd in command pied piper playing tunes which lures followers into the wrath of the blues

  • CandiceH - 2014-01-31 09:16

    SO many people bad-mouthing Ramphele in this article. That she's "stupid" or "power hungry". This woman (if she wins the election) will be the most qualified president the country has seen since 1994. She is a very intelligent and renowned individual, unlike Julius and Jacob who don't even understand BASIC economics.

      Teflon Don - 2014-01-31 09:34

      Since 1994 ?? See what little knowledge does to you ,it really is detrimental to the point that you base your opinions on the figment of your imagination

      Bart - 2014-01-31 10:05

      I think the last reasonably qualified leader we have had was Simon van der Stel, Candice. (LOL)

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-01-31 10:44

      Well Teflon one might say the same for you, because surely if you have enough intelligence to use a computer or smart phone, you have to realise that all that the anc have promised you is still just in your imagination!

      CandiceH - 2014-01-31 11:01

      @Teflondon "Since 1994" implies the post-Apartheid, democratic era, the era to which the debate at hand is relevant. Consider that no president in the DEMOCRATIC era of South Africa has ever had a DOCTORATE, which would make her the academically most qualified president in democratic history of democratic South Africa. It's weird how you managed to miss the whole context of the argument, or is that just another 'figment of my imagination'.

      Teflon Don - 2014-01-31 12:04

      Check this out sunshine she's given the title doctor because of her doctor of philosophy qualification and bachelor in medicine ....are you referring to her honorary doctorate accomplishments lol that's funny even zuma has them up his sleeves (do you even know what an honorary doctorate is )...tell you what just place a comparison chart place her against mbeki then #tweet to me about your findings and please weigh the academic achievements with a critical mind

      Teflon Don - 2014-01-31 12:11

      @Jonathan woods look here a*s*swipe anc has achieved a lot since its day in office prior 94 they weren't black millionaires even billionaire in south africa ,not to mention the grants and the housing development (to name a few) guess you should get your head out of the woods and inform yourself

      CandiceH - 2014-01-31 13:17

      @Teflondon: Ramphele has received eighteen honorary degrees and numerous awards, including: An Honorary Doctorate at the International Institute of Social Studies, The Hague, The Netherlands, in 1997. An Honorary Doctor of Law from the University of Cambridge in 2001. An Honorary Doctorate in Humane Letters from Hunter College of the City University of New York in 1984. An Honorary Doctor of Science degree from Tufts University in May 1991. An Honorary Doctorate in Medicine from the University of Natal. The Medal of Distinction from Barnard College in the United States. Ramphele is also a former fellow of the Bunting Institute and was elected as an honorary member of the Alpha and Iota chapters of Phi Beta Kappa at Radcliffe and Harvard Colleges. An Honorary Doctorate of Humane Letters degree from New York University in May 2007. Was admitted to the Order of Simon of Cyrene in 2010[13] Ramphele was made officer of the Legion of Honour, the highest decoration in France. You were saying?

      CandiceH - 2014-01-31 13:33

      @Teflondon At the end of the day, despite all your aggressive posts and swearing, your username is the name of Rick Ross's fourth album. What an absolute joke. Thinking of changing my username to 'The Carter III'. haha

      Teflon Don - 2014-01-31 14:58

      Sunshine I would have you rather making thorough studies on what a honorary doctorate is and how is attained before we proceed further...and again see what I mean about being less informed you are now embarrasing yourself again do you really think I coined the name teflon don from an artist's album, just look up the meaning of teflon don sweety

      CandiceH - 2014-01-31 16:23

      I don't see why you focused so hard on the honorary doctorate and missed the initial point. Which president in post-Apartheid South Africa is more qualified than her? She has the highest decoration in Finance a person can achieve! Answer me this and I'll admit defeat

      Teflon Don - 2014-01-31 21:05

      A phd in Social anthropology weighing it up against a masters in economics well in my opinion the masters tops it off ...so mbeki remains the smartest

  • Pumbaa Soyizwapi - 2014-01-31 09:24

    Everyone (Da voters and ANC voters) should be happy about having a stronger and more united opposition party. As long as the ANC feels safe they have no incentive to work any harder. When they start to feel that another party is gaining on them they'll have to work harder and stop all this corruption and mismanagement.

  • Pule Nkoe - 2014-01-31 10:15

    It is very true and I think our country deserves better. We need a very strong opposition and I think the leadership of Agang used their intellect more than their passion here. Well done. I see the DA evolving as more black people swell the ranks. Our President asked union leaders to swell the ranks of the ANC to influence policy, but unfortunately the ANC is a big organisation therefore those who join are swallowed up. With the DA I think it is a different story, therefore those who swell the ranks will effect or influence policy positions. A case in mind is the recent change that was made in that party because 'the black caucus' is made up of people who want to see change in South Africa - inequality addressed. I love my ANC, but my country comes first. What about you?

  • Rendani Nemavhidi - 2014-01-31 10:43

    I certainly believe the solution is a stronger opposition. The only way the Government corruption and looting is when they know that there is a real possibility of losing power. Call me a sell out but true sell ours are those looting our country and stealing from the poor. Nevertheless it is naive to believe parachuting Maphela into the DA leadership would change its fortunes. Voters know that the DA is still the DA with or without Mamphela. The DA still has to do the real work of representing true aspirations of the majority of South Africans. Short cuts may give the DA a brief high typical to one acquired from using cocaine but cannot provide them a lasting solution. I know this is a bitter pill to swallow for those who constitute the Online / Virtual Majority but it is true.

  • Tumza Des Madez Malatji - 2014-01-31 10:58

    If the merge will indeed be in the best interest of our country then why the hell not? We are fed up with the corrupt regime of bunch of losers.

  • Eloise Schoeman - 2014-01-31 11:26

    @Tefelo Tshagaripe , big words for a small man! Does your dictionary explain what the words mean?

  • Sneakyme - 2014-01-31 12:21

    As long as they dnt appretiate gains made by the ANC led gov for the past 20yrs,there z still a long way to go for these micky mouse party's

  • Sibusiso Shabalala - 2014-01-31 22:21

    Great. Let's have one united opposition party with an identity crisis! :D yaayy!!

  • Roy Morgan - 2014-01-31 22:31

    Dr. Rampele a struggle icon? What are the credentials? Let's see: In a relationship with a struggle icon, Bantu Biko; Is detained when the SB could not find Bantu. Yes, they detained anyone who could give them information on the whereabouts of their target. They also detained anyone for being an association of the target. Now, are those struggle credentials? Can one be identified as a struggle hero? Where is this country going to? Many, like Zapiro, (as he has bragged about his detention) have been detained, can we say they are struggle icons? I disagree. Struggle icons have serious credentials!

  • Johan Brand - 2014-02-02 22:10

    All of them politicians cannot be trusted or taken seriously. All have clay feet. The downward spiral continues. If we think the protestors are "gatvol" for the ANC. Think again. They will keep on voting for their "comrades" because then they can continue in their unruly, criminal ways. No political party will change this country. The people must do it themselves through trying to live a decent honourable life..

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