Anti-Zuma lobby meet to decide leaders

2012-09-06 17:59

Johannesburg - ANC leaders from eight provinces, all of whom are opposed to President Jacob Zuma’s leadership, met on Wednesday night in an attempt to agree on who their candidates for the party’s top six positions should be.

Sources with knowledge of the meeting told City Press that while the leaders agree Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe should be their presidential candidate, they fear his reluctance might sink their campaign.

The camp is also struggling to agree on who they want to nominate as secretary general.

The ANC Youth League is pushing hard for its former leader, Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula, to stand for the position.

But the Eastern Cape wants Gwede Mantashe to retain his position, while Gauteng is backing ANC national executive member Joel Netshitenzhe to become secretary general.

Human Settlements Minister Tokyo Sexwale was punted in the meeting as a possible deputy president, while Mathews Phosa is likely to be nominated to remain treasurer general.

The meeting could not agree on nominees for deputy secretary general and chairperson, and KwaZulu-Natal and Eastern Cape representatives were asked to come up with possible - “preferably female” - candidates, someone who attended the meeting told City Press.

The “forces of change” lobby in KwaZulu-Natal has been proposing provincial chairperson and Premier Zweli Mkhize or MEC Senzo Mchunu’s names as possible chairpersons.

It is not clear whether Motlanthe will agree to be nominated.

The Mail & Guardian reported last week that Motlanthe told lobbyists at a meeting, dubbed the “Malibongwe gathering”, that he would only accept a nomination if it was not aligned to slates (election lists of candidates).

Two sources who were briefed about the meeting said representatives from all provinces except the Northern Cape attended.

Not all who wanted to attend could make it because of the bad weather over Gauteng on Wednesday night.

The lobbyists are due to meet again next week.

The ANC’s leadership nominations open formally next month, and branches are this month gathering to decide who they should nominate.

  • Gichumz - 2012-09-06 18:12

    Julias for president!!

      ferero.roche.96 - 2012-09-06 18:16

      Your are such a tool

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-09-06 18:31

      Well for all those 'clever ones' , who have been wanting Zuma out, they WILL get a government, WITH Julius Malema

      farmfreund - 2012-09-06 18:32

      This will be interesting, seeing this whole debate, there are so many yung talented black people in this country who does not carry the burden of Apartheid, i just which that they want to considder yunger leaders with a different mind set, these old guys all have mental issues with the past, lets move forward get some fresh blood in with new ideas, this is the new South Africa get rid of the old mindset, lets move forward with yung intelegent and motivated leaders

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-06 18:37

      The fresh blood comes from Marikana.

  • ben.spreeth - 2012-09-06 18:14

    Shame, choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

      kolobe.mzansi.9 - 2012-09-06 18:24

      sounds like a bedtime venue just sources ..mxm

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-06 18:33

      Kolobe, there's no names because the cadres` greed and jockeying for positions has already resulted in a number of deaths remember

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-06 18:16

    Hope for the best and expect the worst.

      dee.bone.39 - 2012-09-07 09:12

      hope for the best, ELECT THE WORST, what else can you expect

  • lourence.manyama - 2012-09-06 18:17

    Zuma defeated

      dee.bone.39 - 2012-09-07 09:15

      he never stood a chance. was never cut out for the job in the first place. sad thing is that almost everyone new that before he took the job. he just stood there with that grin on his face and took the job

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-06 18:18

    Finally Zuma is bouncing.Zuma is more of a celebrity than a president.Polygamy,Corruption and Rape charges,you name them all.We'll see if King Goodwill Zwelithini will get that R18m.And bye bye to Zumaville.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-06 18:39

      Last week Trevor Manuel said MONEY IS NO PROBLEM.

      Thabang - 2012-09-06 19:58

      This is not good news for JZ. So many things that He has to do before Mangaung. - Ensure that He approves King Zwelithini's R63m so that He can get KZN votes, - push builders to build Zumaville within 2 months, - ensure that constitution is amended to ensure that all future prisoners will get the best quality life with weekend visits to families and friends. - Ensure his son gets the millions worth contract with Arcellormittal. - Ensure that He remains with one wife before December - Plead with the ANC that Malema not be appointed correctional services minister. - apply His mind on doing paternity test for Sonono Khoza's child So many things to do yet so little time.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-07 12:04

      Gerhard. kress.3. If there is one person you don't want to believe it is Trevor Manual. He is hanging on by his shirt tails and will say what ever he thinks is needed to get a nod of approval.

  • davy.botha - 2012-09-06 18:21

    Yawnnnn,it will just be more of the same. Once the horse has bolted it runs wild. Everybody is afraid to take the lead and say what is acceptable and what is not case in point you can not just make threats, strike and kill. Somebody had to say no.

  • wendy.schneider3 - 2012-09-06 18:23

    the paw paw is going to hit the fan! and it's becomming a circus.

  • dentamokhabz - 2012-09-06 18:23

    The daggers are out but if I was adviser to zuma, I will advise him not to stand for leadership as the Anc will slowly die a slow death.

      dee.bone.39 - 2012-09-07 09:19

      wish he gets another term and finish the ANC off once and for always.

      zukisanim - 2012-09-07 10:21

      Agree with that

  • osmaseko - 2012-09-06 18:23

    Tjovitjo, but Tokyo for Deputy that's not on

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-09-06 18:24

    Who is beating the dead snake now Zuma ? So they want women up there with them too ey, so that they may criticise them.

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-06 18:29

    Zuma has been a disaster and embarrassment. What a pity Motlanthe has no backbone! Regardless, removing him will be a good start. He must then go and share a cell with his son Juliarse

      nkosinathi.dyantyi.9 - 2012-09-06 18:45

      Eish Thera xa kunje ndise ndicinge zizi(mbeki) zuma goes around comes around)

  • william.letsong.5 - 2012-09-06 18:30

    Is he still the president? The last time I saw him was on the SABC's 7 o'clock news singing and dancing, now I don't see him anymore. Did he run away? Is he still around? WTF going on?

      solanga.maluleke - 2012-09-06 18:57

      The machine is broken

  • asdhasgd - 2012-09-06 18:31

    I honestly would love kgalema as my new president. Anythin but zuma!!

  • madoda.monamudi - 2012-09-06 18:32

    Mr Zuma don't even stand for Mangaung your ship is sinking. Mr Zuma a young man is so powerful than u. By chasing Julius Malima in Politics u have destroy the chances of your Second term, remember it was Julius who Said to Nation i will die for President Zuma.

  • ingi.raikes - 2012-09-06 18:40

    Is this some kind of a sick joke? Out of all those listed above, there isn't even one hopeful! Really you Guys, throw in the towel now, let's not put any more good after bad. Hand over to the D.A. now and let's get the show on the road. VOTE FOR CHANGE, VOTE D.A. Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss............!

  • oageng.lekete.7 - 2012-09-06 18:43

    Fist nomination, Thuli Madonsela for presidency, she is a woman the time is now that South Africa needs a voice from a mother, fathers have failed as ussual, second nomination, Matthew Phosa is educated and knows what he's talking about. Third nomination, Jimmy manyi, he's young well education and features in the current presidents of the world's category. The rest flush them maybe our sanitation problems will be solved.

      Xulu.Thulany.Xaba - 2012-09-06 18:57

      Nah toooooooooooooooo ugly for my liking!!!!! U'd swear she eat humans

      ben.spreeth - 2012-09-06 20:09

      I prefer her looks to that of Zuma.

  • dumisani.dube.399 - 2012-09-06 18:45

    this guys are trying to secure thier political career by channeling us to think that zuma is a bad president

  • dumisani.dube.399 - 2012-09-06 18:47

    this guys they want to save their political career by making us think that zuma is a bad president , they wrong we understand politics

      solanga.maluleke - 2012-09-06 18:59

      My friend Zumais a bad president check all his advisors bad people do you think he is good inside the rotten potatoes.

      juannepierre - 2012-09-06 19:21

      Attention: diamond in the rough here!

      juannepierre - 2012-09-06 19:24

      Black people, can I ask you something... Do you really believe that one man is to blame for an entire party's incapabilities? Did you vote for a president or for a party at the last election?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-06 19:44

      Zuma is like the CEO. Everyone else in his management team has been appointed by him and can be fired by him. They all dance to his corrupt tune. That is why firing him may be a good start. Given that the ANC has such a large number of voters that the opposition has so far been unable to attract, what alternative is there? Personally, until such time that the opposition rids itself of racists who continue to polarise others calling them idiots, the “African way,\ and other wonderful epithets we read about here daily, I think it will be a long time before the ANC is removed from power. That is because news24 is most probably a reflection of the racism that is pervasive in the general society. Now let the games [jostling to click `not like`] begin. That`s not going to detract from anything I said by the way

      ben.spreeth - 2012-09-06 21:01

      Themba, you will find racists anywhere. Black, white and all over the world. Dont let that influence your decision on what is best for the future of this country. I feel the racists can go to hell. It is what is inside a man that makes the man but I still want the best goverment for this country.

      zukile.marcus - 2012-09-07 09:44

      Realty now Dumisani.dube? DO you mean you really understand politics regarding Zuma as good president? either you are naive if not ignorant you are dumb; to be polite polite I will say you are clueless. 1-This is a democratic country not kingdom of zululand. 2-Culture and democracy dont mix 3-Corruption; carningness and illiteracy is a receipt we are having in our lifetime democracy. thats just the few I can list for you to place you in an informed position.DONT FAIL THIS TIME. oh you may as well be like your president

  • len.finlayson - 2012-09-06 18:48

    Death by chocolate

  • Theo Ferreira - 2012-09-06 18:52

    What a joke. If you don't agree with your party, you have serious issues. Although, I suppose this is the only way to have one party stay in power: infighting with boundaries. In a real democracy there would be splinter party formed, oh... Wait... That didn't work.. Better to stay in the ANC and leapfrog from one president to the next while the guy you supported initially is still in power (Mbeki -> Zuma... Rinse, repeat...) What a joke.

  • aubrey.k.masola - 2012-09-06 18:53

    let the games begin //Anyone but Zuma//

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-06 18:54

    Nobody is perfect but atleast Motlanthe has a cleaner reputation than Zuma and he is down to earth.Unlike Zuma who pretends to be flying for state visits,but he's actually touring with his wives.What country didn't Zuma visit since he became President? Open your eyes peeps

  • solanga.maluleke - 2012-09-06 18:56

    Please choose someone who is familiar with fiscal policies so that we can not depend on petrol. You know that most of the south Africans are not educated and we can not keep on blaming apartheid regim. Let us focus on how to eradicate all the mess and do forward. Criticizing apartheid won't change anything unless we stand up together not to enrich yourselves. Zumba was surrounded by bad advisors that he choose himself and leading him to this mess.

      ingi.raikes - 2012-09-06 19:28

      Well said solanga, l agree with you.

  • Michael - 2012-09-06 19:02

    I said it before, and i will say it again, Motlanthe is very loyal to Zuma, these two combrades come from very far together, it is actualy Motlanthe who continued to task Zuma to address gatherings when he was fired from cabinet while still SG. These guys will all retain their position in the Top Six, only Cyril will be given position of second deputy president after 2014 elections.

      zukile.marcus - 2012-09-07 09:50

      Oho! you dont know Michael; Zuma was like battery and torch with Mbeki...but a man gotta get a piece of cake as well when there's a support base there's an opportunity. The sad thing about Zuma he thought he was the man but actualy he is a doorway used by opportunist because of him being less informed. The benefits of being uneducated and fight to be the CEO...mshiniwam dont keep any man in position, brains, competency and effeciency does it better

  • Sewela Marcia Rapudubudu - 2012-09-06 19:03

    It is incredible and is happening let's the game begin, Mr President you are doomed hai I never liked you**so excited** when thinks go like this

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-06 19:17

    A second in three offices, where a president will not see a full term! Step down shower boy, spear head, thief, rapist, corrupt, excuse of a statesman! You give your own tribe a BAD name!

  • maria.mudau.12 - 2012-09-06 19:18

    Banana republic with dirty politics

  • juannepierre - 2012-09-06 19:18

    What? Make the current deputy the new head? That's is so unheard of from the ANC, my how they can surprise me. When are black woman gonna grow some balls and start playing the game?

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-09-06 19:23

    kungaqhuma kubasiwe atsho ama Xhosa

  • Millos Mpofu - 2012-09-06 19:32

    ANC top six Racism No White No Coloured No Asian only BEE

      mdluli.vusi - 2012-09-06 19:48

      Millos all blacks,coloureds,asians and white females qualifies for BEE.only white males don,t.

      ruan.adlam - 2012-09-08 11:57

      White females and white disabled individuals do not form part of B-BBEE. Please go and study the Act.

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-06 19:35

    ANCYL President?????

  • lawrence.bishop.9 - 2012-09-06 19:35

    The Zuma camp remain strong ,It will be a big Mistake for Kgalema to Contest Mr Zuma in Mangaung.A Major blow for those rallying behind Monthlante will be the day when he will be telling them no! to their ambitius request. In fact they dont have a candidate.Montlhante must be matured enough to understand that the goal of the camp lobbying for him is that of using and Dumping him for Tokyo who seem hungry for power.

      patrickmpanyana.mogwaneng - 2012-09-08 11:19

      Zuma was a big mistake to South Africa.He doesn't have any stand on anything.No idea, no direction,hide behind signing.Always reading notes written by whoever(popularist).we are tired of him,SA needs direction not a dancer.he must go.

  • tobydt - 2012-09-06 21:44

    "Anti-Zuma lobby meet to decide leaders" Lemme guess, Motlanthe.

  • tobriegas - 2012-09-06 22:05

    I foresee danger in South Africa, the presidency position is fought for their own benefits not for service delivery, I foresee civil war, killing of the nominees, in fact, this nation is cursed, everything is a mess, education is poor, AIDS is killing people, Crime is escalating, at work place people get exploited- give much and get paid with a bucket of Sh*t, Accidents in roads, allowing people form our neighbouring states to enter our territory illegally

  • mthokozisi.madlala.7 - 2012-09-06 23:12

    ha ha ha thats a lie...i drove from Gauteng to North West today... I am sure people would secrifies everything for mangaung.....!!

  • dee.bone.39 - 2012-09-07 09:08

    this one mother of a f!@#ing racist party. they only see black africans as potential leaders. apartheid was probably the best thing that happened to this country. it kept this bunch of racists at bay for a while longer. they're just rubbing their hands to stuff up the country and doing it at a helluva pace. death to the ANC. when everyone with common sense knew that both zuma and malema were crap. they ANC still nominated and elected them to the posts they held. if they couldnt see they were catching on sh!@, they still went ahead and appointed theses two. now how the hell can they be seen as a party credible party. I ask you with tears in my eyes. WTF

  • mlungisi.kunene - 2012-09-07 09:24

    the heat is on!!!!

  • dnxumalo2 - 2012-09-07 09:25

    I am voting for change this time around.No more buddy crap.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-07 12:01

    I am not rejoicing.

  • Notrax123 - 2012-09-08 14:16

    Rules of selecting a leader (EL Presidento): a)They must be able to have the respect of the nation - that is, all the flavours that make up the nation. b)They should not be in a popularity contest but they make the well being and prosperity of the nation their first priority. c)Recognise their limitatations and be prepared to improve. d)Be able to serve the country - ALL of it's people! e)Be satisfied with one wife - less domestic problems and cheaper on the country's fiscus. f)They must be elected on ability and integrity,no one must be able to say: "I put you in power, you now owe me....." this just did not workout for the Zuma/Malema relationship. g)Only candidates that have worked and shed sweat, persons who can honestly say "I own what I own,I have worked and paid for everything I have" - no beer bellies - educated at least at tertiary level, should be considerd. Looking at the above criteria, I guess there are no candidates.

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