Billions lost to corrupt state - ACDP

2012-03-31 14:40

Johannesburg - Around R30bn is lost each year as a result of fraud and corruption at government level, the African Christian Democratic Party said on Saturday.

"The special investigating unit (SIU), in response to an ACDP question, stated that the extent of fraud and corruption in the state procurement process is estimated to be between R25bn to R30bn per year," the party's leader Kenneth Meshoe said in a statement.

"Whilst the government has adopted many polices and task teams to fight corruption, it doesn’t seem to be helping."

Meshoe said to combat the high levels of corrupt activities, the party concluded that the personnel and capacity of the SIU should immediately be expanded.

Capacity in turn should be increased in allied law enforcement agencies such as the asset forfeiture unit and Hawks.

Improved state auditing processes, protection for whistleblowers and holding director generals' accountable were also areas that needed to be addressed.

  • IAnon - 2012-03-31 15:02

    "Whilst the government has adopted many polices and task teams to fight corruption, it doesn’t seem to be helping." That's probably because these so called Task Teams are adding to the looting - seeing that everyone is getting away with it - as I yet have to see anyone being brought to book!

      Shirley - 2012-03-31 15:35

      Whilst the anc is in power you never will!

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 15:05

    The reason it is not going down is because almost all these politicians are corrupt to the core. Government is taking too long to finalise corruption cases and when they do, a slap on the wrist is enough, then deployment to another portfolio, normally Ambassadorship in a foreign country, to settle the dust. How the hell do we allow to be led by a President who is badly implicated in corruption and have gross personal ethical flaws.

      IAnon - 2012-03-31 15:17

      So where are you going to put your cross come 2014?

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 15:25

      It is up to us to stop this Grand Theft my Brother. We have the vote, we hold the Power.

      Amused - 2012-03-31 15:26

      @ siyadyosiba - Agree fully !!!! @ IAnon - what exactly are you trying to say ? That because siyadyosiba is black he must therefore vote ANC. What makes me hopping mad is that people (and i am going to assume from your comment that you are highly likely white) think that they can make ANC voters vote otherwise by insulting them. How exactly does that work do you think ? From the comment you responded to, is it not clear that this post is anti ANC, and deserved applause not snide comments with a racial undertone.

      IAnon - 2012-03-31 15:38

      @Amused-Reader - you are amusing !

      siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 15:49

      @IAnon, COPE is full of infighting and cracking more and more, no future IFP is tribalised and they kill whoever is a member and have a different view to their ideas. DA leadership is white dominated, It does not represent the country population proportionately as Ms Zille claim the party is democratic. Secondly, Ms Zille does not like working with women, hence her leadership is 80% male. Lastly, DA has not convinced me as caring for the poor as they claim ANC is not. There are a lot of ills in Western Cape. So, I do not trust DA. I guess I will stick with ANC. At least I know ANC policies are for better life for all, just that the greedy individuals make it difficult to implement these policies.

      IAnon - 2012-03-31 15:51

      @Siyadyosiba - It's still a free country - but as you yourself have pointed out your concerns, perhaps you should get to know the devil you don't know - how about that?

      siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 15:54

      @IAnon, that might not be a bad idea but hey I'm not ready to take that risk yet.

      IAnon - 2012-03-31 15:58

      @Siyadyosiba - I am glad you are open minded -

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 16:30

      @siyadysiba This is the moment when you should apply some serious logic. You already know and see the wrongs of the government, shouldn't you strive to help create an opposition so we can save ourselves from doom? The ANC know they have no opposition in this country, that is why they keep taking us for a ride election after election. Why would we want to vote for a party that has no future for us? Imagine the mess you and I will inherit in 10 years time when these thieves have all died? It is our duty as the youth to fight for our future because nobody cares about us. I have written tens of letters to the ministers and only Gordhan has ever sent me a reply. Our solution lies in a revolution. If it means we have to bomb our way to a future, we should mobilise and stop the rot now. Our Grandfathers fought for freedom from oppression, why can't we? This is nothing different from the oppression known to our forebears.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 16:56

      @Vusi, I hear you clearly. DA is a NO NO for me broer. Not now. I dont trust the leadership in DA.

      sven.gohre - 2012-03-31 19:18

      @siyadyosiba, it matters not which party you give your vote to, the KISS party seems safe, as long as you take your vote away from the CancER, as they will only start taking your future seriously when they realise that they could lose power. As long as they know that the majority will always vote for them, even if they deprive them of everything, there is no reason why they should care about the voting fodder.

  • bzengetwa - 2012-03-31 15:06

    Even the holiest of all is corrupt so corruption is not a new thing. The problem with ANC leaders is that they joined government with poor pockets so now they want to enrich their pockets forgetting that money comes at a cost,and that cost is the people's standard of living.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 15:28

      Not for long my Brother. This is the Internet age and not 1960. Us youth read and we are informed while most of those old men in Government probably don't even know how to switch on a computer. We have information now they don't want us to have. That is why they need the information bill. They need to protect themselves against us.

      IAnon - 2012-03-31 15:40

      @Vusi - with you all the way on this one.

      Eli - 2012-04-04 15:50

      @Assegai and siyadyosiba. I am a white guy. I dont mind ANC, just so long as the people that are running our country now arent running it again next time! There are so many awesome, intelligent black guys and girls out there. I love that we are the youth and we have the power at the end of the day! Its great to see! I agree, lets just get the power away from these thieves and Criminals that are in leadership now, and let the rainbow nation begin man! We must fight for our rights, and i will join that fight with my fellow africans if the fight is in the best interest of the country and its people! Especially the poor and starving and dying people who are being robbed by government! Sweet my bru!

  • Shirley - 2012-03-31 15:12

    Thats a hell of a lot of our hard earned money squanderd through an inept government. The task teams who do catch the guilty point them out and the thieving scum get suspension on full pay for years! Nepotism and corruption working hand in hand!

  • Chris - 2012-03-31 15:19

    And sum ppl are so gusty to actual vote this professors of corruption into power... I mean 30bn a year?? Spechless

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-03-31 15:24

    Anarchy nepotism Corruption

      Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-31 15:28

      Give this man a bells!

  • Ngaka - 2012-03-31 15:25

    Ntate Meshoe, the problem is that you opposition parties the only thing you do best is to oppose instead of providing some constructive ideas on how this country should be better run now and going forward?...thank you for your contribution,it's been a while...I was beginning to get tired of DA acting as if they were the only ones in this category of opposers.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 15:54

      You have touched on a very important issue Ngaka. Our opposition parties (DA excluded) are not doing enough to improve the lives of our people. I'm excluding the DA because the Western province is by far our best run province. By far. It is the other 8 provinces that speak of chaos and the opposition parties in those provinces gladly get their pay every month while they sit in parliament and sleep. Other than Pieter Mulder and Pieter Groenewald going on about their white issues, none of these other opposition parties are ever vocal or come up with solutions.

      marumobongani - 2012-03-31 15:54

      thanks bro you could'nt put it better thats exactly what they do cheap politics

      siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 15:58

      @Ngaka, let's face the truth. Corruption is the only problem that is crippling our progress. ANC knows what should be done but it just does not do it. In fact it cant do what is right and you know why. Almost everyone is corrupt.

      hoyingomane - 2012-03-31 16:00

      They always do but the media is in partnership with the DA so.....obvious.

      Thami - 2012-03-31 16:39

      What ever happened to Holomisa and his UDM? We honestly need an alternative, and non of the existing parties give any confidence. @Vusi: I have to differ with your analysis on Western Cape being the best run. Look at the starting benchmarks compared with say Eastern Cape, Limpopo, etc, they had a better start than other province. And of the 18years of democracy, how many years has it been under DA? Why are we so quick to give DA credit for Western Cape when it has only been under them for 2.5 years. I haven't seen anything "Wow" that can be directly attributed to DA administration. Will someone please share, maybe I'm just ignorant

      siyadyosiba - 2012-03-31 17:00

      @Thami, you nailed it. I've been saying the same. Western Cape had always been the best province even during the time it was led by ANC. The only credit I can give to DA is their stance to transparency and accountability.

      Vusi - 2012-03-31 17:01

      @Thami. You are very right on certain issues, but Gauteng was also a very "advanced" province and look at the financial mess and corruption going on now. R6 Billion stolen just last year. My point is the following. Do you read that this kind of money gets stolen in the Western Cape? But my fight isn't about the DA. My fight is for our people to realise that they are being laughed at behind their backs by these thieves we have in power now. They are making a mockery of our party loyalty. We give them a passport to steal us blind and they will be dead and we will have to fix this mess.

      johan.vanhoff - 2012-03-31 17:18


      Thami - 2012-03-31 19:22

      @Vusi: I hear you and agree fully. We need to deal with those issues and yes our leaders are abusing the power we are giving them. Maybe the issue that we should address first is our electoral system. The party deployments are not working. Maybe we need to separate presidential elections and parliament/cabinet elections. That way we won't have a person like JZ (with a cloud of corruption) and some of premiers and cabinet ministers push down our throats.

      Atholl - 2012-03-31 22:58

      Ngaka is right - Corruption is a 'Conflict Situation' - same as a 'War Situation' If the 'political opposition' were the generals of a military battalion to fight crime and corruption - (the enemy) - would these 'political generals' know the exact nature of the 'criminal enemy' their :: .. method of communication .. organisational structure .. logistical lines of transport and replenishment .. propaganda tactics .. recruitment rate and methods .. infiltration and coerce methods .. reward methods .. strategy and tactics AND have an answer to each The Enemy have clearly indicated their intent - to silence the media and to remove the weapon that protects and informs the public

  • rory.short1 - 2012-03-31 16:08

    R30 Billion a year misappropriated and that says nothing about the often shoddy work on the tenders involved which then has to be fixed at further cost. I was fully behind the changes in 1994 believing that they heralded, us as a country embarking on uplifting the whole society and more particularly the poor. I never envisaged that the new government would be so riddled with corruption that the poor are now worse off than they were before.

  • Chappies ZA - 2012-03-31 16:19

    Lekker man lekker, SA the land of Milk and Money!!!

  • Ian - 2012-03-31 16:30

    We should now call corruption a lucrative "corruption industry". Wonder how many competitors there will be in such an "industry"

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-03-31 17:54

    ANC solution.... increase the price of petrol. Dumb#$$e$.

  • frank.hartry - 2012-03-31 17:57

    One must be reminded that these stolen billions of rands of taxpayers money was under the control of this corrupt ANC led by the worse president that South Africa will ever experience. It was government responsibility to ensure the security of taxpayers money. that money could have paid off the SARAL debt which motorists are expected to pay via toll fees. Gordhan can get lost. He is too useless as a finance minister. In a normal democratic country a government like this ANC one would have been kicked into the political dustbin of his history because of its ranpant looting. It is a criminal government.

  • stef.delport - 2012-03-31 18:46

    Is this what we are really paying for wth E-Toll?

  • thapelo.devotion.mothibi - 2012-03-31 19:59

    Wow! that could have aided next 1% Of our budget deficit eish! The government got only themselves too blame here. Tjo! We need new blood and fresh minds here *whistling & smh*

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-03-31 21:50

    etolling would not be necessary if our govt was a honest govt , instead of fixing the wastage of our money they just take more from us , ANC there is a fable about the goose that laid the golden egg , dont do the same !

  • Gregory - 2012-04-01 00:13

    That's the billions of blatant open theft. Never mind the billions that is not detected. Zuma and his herd of cows and ilegitimate bastards maintained at the tax Payers expense. Their cellphone bill is more than entire household budget of ordinary citizens. Down with the ANC ,

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-04-01 09:02

    Now you have to realise the blind loyalism to the ANC 30 bn lost to corruption is nothing would rather focus on one word refugee

  • Nikki Bodenstein - 2012-04-01 09:28

    This isn't news! Tell us something we don't know!

  • esme.collins1 - 2012-04-01 16:34

    As I said on another post hoyingomane, your utterances are an embarassment to human society so shut the F@*#k up!!

  • Liam - 2012-04-04 15:56

    DA for the future of our country!!!!!!Imagine how awesome it would be to have a government that accounts for funds,is transparent,improves and cleans our cities and only improves the lives of all South Africans!=More investment from overseas companies,political stability and more jobs for all !!DA!DA!DA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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