Cape Town ANC split over Zuma

2012-11-21 10:57

Cape Town - The ANC Dullah Omar Region in the Western Cape is split over whether Jacob Zuma should remain party president, the Cape Times reported on Wednesday.

Deputy chairperson Faizel Moosa and secretary Vuyiso Tyhalisisu were reportedly at odds over whether to back Zuma or deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe at the party's elective conference in Mangaung next month.

The region covers Cape Town and is the largest in the province.

Tyhalisisu told an ANC Youth League special general council: "The regional leadership is clear - change is inevitable."

He told the meeting that those who wanted to maintain the current ANC leadership were solely interested in looting the public purse.

"We are going to lose our dignity. We are going to be turned into political prostitutes," he reportedly said.

Moosa said the secretary had no mandate to state the region supported Motlanthe.

"This type of behaviour reminds one of the unruly, ill-disciplined and vitriolic actions of some youth in February this year who, in their desperate attack on the persona of the president, confuse thuggery, hooliganism and opportunism for legitimate political process, debate and contestation."

According to the report, half of the region's 110 branches had qualified to be represented at Mangaung, and 45 had already completed their branch meetings.

  • tebo.go.5 - 2012-11-21 10:59

    well the whole country is split over Zuma

      tonyzr2tx - 2012-11-21 11:08

      Zuma has split the country.

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-11-21 11:13

      Maybe there is some good coming after all!

      michael.horton.566790 - 2012-11-21 11:14

      I think we need a new political party power. Does not matter who takes over Zuma's place. The ANC is corrupt to the core and the new president will just think... "Hey, the ANC already has a reputation for corruption so why can't I just loot the coffers too? Nothing will happen to me! Just look at all the criminals in government still walking the street! Aaahhh... It's lekker to be in the ANC!"

      ian.flack2 - 2012-11-21 11:58

      Let me see, it must be South African democracy where two people can decide whether to support the president or not......sod what the people have to say!!!!

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-11-21 11:02

    The ANC has already lost its dignity and credibility with Jacob Zuma as President, so choose wisely and carefully.

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-21 11:08

    Half the ANC in CT can see writing on wall for JZ. Not difficult, and there are still some smart people in the ANC. Sadly not nearly enough.

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-21 11:27

      Anybody still in the ANC is definitaly not smart. "smart people in the ANC" = oxymoron

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-21 14:06

      No - disagreed. There are a few. Not many.

  • joel.k.tarus - 2012-11-21 11:12

    the less scandals we have as a nation the better for everybody.for this to happen let jz be released so that he may have enough time to clear his name

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-11-21 21:50

      Even if he lives to be 250 he will not have enough time to clear his name. Please take a count of all the corruption, lying, raping and thieving charges against him and you will agree he needs more time than growing 250 years old.

  • Ntobane Setabola - 2012-11-21 11:14

    One simple solution; Unite and forsake Bro. Zuma. He doesnt even deserve the 'President' title,entlik he never did.

  • dave.abner.56 - 2012-11-21 11:15

    There is an ANC branch in the western cape? When did this happen and why doesn't Helen know about this...

      stuart.lidstone.1 - 2012-11-21 11:46

      ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha, thank you !!

  • eland.snitbul - 2012-11-21 11:21

    This country needs a black man which has a full understanding of the political process, knowledge of the current corruptions and fraud... who is respected by the uneducated majority of South Africa to go to them and explain what exactly is happening, why they are still struggling to survive and living in poor conditions and to convince them to vote for a party which has the right policies which ever party it may be. I said black man for a reason, they will listen to him and he could maybe make a difference to a sinking country.

      godesha - 2012-11-21 12:43

      Eland, what this country needs is a true leader who does not put himself first, who does not enrich himself in spite of his voters suffering, who does not tell lie after lie, makes all kinds of empty promises, who is not corrupt. People need to start voting with their heads instead of their hearts. I don't really care what race this leader is, as long as he does what he is supposed to do - unite and lead the people of our country.

      brendaanne.anderson - 2012-11-21 13:52

      Eland, what you say makes sense............ to the educated. The uneducated man / woman will vote for the person that promises them everything for free as the ANC did in 1994 and does today still just before an election. That is what they want, they do not want to hear about having to educate themselves - they want what was promised to them. Our houses, farms, businesses etc etc. No amount of common sense and logical thinking is going to change this outlook. Just watch the ANC come election time.We must not underestimate or ignore the ANC's knowledge of its contituents. Unless someone is prepared to be as deceitful as they are and also promise them the world knowing full well that they cannot deliver, I am afraid we are going to have to wait until a lot more damage has been done to this beautiful country before another party can come into power to save South Africa.

  • collet.letsoalo - 2012-11-21 11:24

    All large, corrupt political parties anywhere in the world are split because everyone everywhere is looking for an opportunity to loot.

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-11-21 21:58

      you are correct in defining the parties that are looking to loot as large, corrupt political parties. If they are not large, or corrupt political parties, then of course the opposite applies to looking for opportunities to loot. So I agree with your statement that large, corrupt parties are looking to loot and the uncorrupt parties are not.

  • strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-21 11:27

    Imagine the ANC is no longer the ruling party. Will people still be so keen to work for them once the inflated wage structures fall apart? Political prostitutes? - No! prostitutes have to work for their money!

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-11-21 11:31

    Anc mentality yet again....

  • CapeIndependence - 2012-11-21 11:31

    The ANC have NO future in our Cape.

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-11-21 11:32

    I don't like you much...

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-11-21 22:00

      I hope you don't like him, you love him!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-11-21 11:32

    The secretary of Dullar Omar region said those who wanted to maintain the current leadership(of the ANC) were soley interested in looting the public purse. I agree with you

  • matsutle.aphane - 2012-11-21 11:33

    this is a democratic country, we are free to elect ur prefarred candidate,without fear,,,!

  • JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-21 11:34

    The ANC fools killed their own "DECOY in the name of malama" and his escapades, now all attetion is focused on the whole of, guess who... THE ANC

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-11-21 11:35

    Dont hold your breath, I dont think there is a province except for Zuma's backyard that has really given their full support initially but somehow get swayed into supporting him. Eish, they wont stop until nothing is left and everything rots with decay, what for ONE OLD USELESS MAN, that people can be so blind.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-21 11:37

    Yes, change is inevitable! The majority of SA want zuma out of gov and in jail. Really divisive manipulative brutal criminally tainted corrupt lout. Before he was elected, the majority of people did NOT want him as president and they still do not want him. He was elected by that untrustworthy small closed circle gang the NEC: against the peoples wishes

  • benz.mokgotho.3 - 2012-11-21 12:01

    Evri1 supporting Zuma is expectin reward, like in polokwane confrnce Mathale, Malema en othrs, thy removed non-corrupt leadrs like Mbeki, Moloto en de likes. Corrupt leader is elected en supprted by corrupt comrades. Birds of same flock fly 2gthr

  • mbambo.shi - 2012-11-21 12:06

    Yesterday we burned in Jozi, the weather was so extremely hot. Atleast today is cool.

  • NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-21 12:21

    "Moosa said the secretary (i.e. Vuyiso Tyhalisisu) had no mandate to state the region supported Motlanthe." Right. But he lives in a democratic society with a constitution that guarantees freedom of expression. And the ANC - we're told on ad infinitum - is a democratic 'movement' and debateS issues where the cadres are free to express their opinions - it's "the ANC way of doing things" - and even the ANC president and secretary have said so on many occasions. So, seeing that ANC process for nominations has now been officially launched, why can't Tyhalisisu express his opinion which incidentally appears to confirm with the opinion of the vast majority of ANC members in WP. He is absolutely correct: The Spear has & will continue to make every ANC member a political prostitute with the sole aim of '... looting the public purse" with as little effort as possible apart from allowing the Spear to grind them for his Lexington moment of 'after action satisfaction' which reads lining his purse and that of his family and turning his Nkandla compound into one of the most luxurious and expensive homesteads in the world! What a sick joke! GET RID OF ZUMA IN THE NAME OF ALL SOUTH AFRICA!

  • sango.jika - 2012-11-21 12:25

    ANC leadership need to save themselves the embarrassment and remove the problems. Because when they elect the same person who is puting us through hell right now. we will find ourselve an alternative party with more educated people who will build and not destroy the rainbow nation.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-11-21 12:56

      sango, give the DA an opportunity, this racist ANC has already destroyed any idea of a rainbow nation, thanks to them the hate is at an all time high, I believe the DA can get us back on track.

      sango.jika - 2012-11-21 13:27

      @Bob 2014 is coming the problem will be fixed.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-11-21 13:01

    The anc is irrelevant in WC! Time to ship out!

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-11-21 13:05

    Great so the options are a Criminal or an assistant criminal who supports a potential terrorist like Malema!! Wow the ANC has so much depth!!!!

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-11-21 13:12

    Zuma has a split personality. Dumb and dumber!

  • - 2012-11-21 13:27

    Hierdie mededeling van die ANC verskil oor Zuma, bevestig die vermoede van die stakings dat dit polities geinspireer is!!!

  • mandla.mthembu.14 - 2012-11-21 13:43

    Mr Vice President uzoithola kajani u hlele e coneng....yoyo time is now.

  • trevor.mudede - 2012-11-21 13:44

    I am in Zim guys but my view is that the farmers and businessman are very safe under the leadership of Zuma.There is no way tha DA will ever rule in the next 10 years it is and will forever be a pipedream.Looks like most people are supporting the forces of change to have Zuma removed. MARK MY WORDS,there are lazy,opportunists,tenderpreurs waiting to pounce hiding behind nationalisation and land redestribution.You might hate the showerman with a passion but you gotta look beyond his shortcomings l personally think you will be worse off,TIME WILL TELL

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-11-21 22:15

      Yes trevor, we can understand your view completely as you are in Zim and reasoning that it is best to keep Mogabe with all his faults because you do not know what you will get if he is taken out.Fortunately we have people, even the uneducated, that can see the stupidity of your reasoning. Go take a stupid tablet and try to look into the future to see if anything can be worse than what the South Africans and Zimbabwians are experiencing at present.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-21 16:19

    What split?. They have always been in bits and pieces.

  • mlamli.jikeka - 2012-11-22 07:32

    that what happen in our politic split!

  • johannesadam.mothwa - 2012-11-25 09:18

    i sapport Zuma i knw people think he doesnt derserve but most of them are the one are educated becse they think they cant lead by someone whio is not educated

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