Claims Gaddafi henchman in SA

2013-06-02 21:49

Johannesburg - Former Libyan political heavyweight Bashir Saleh must be arrested if he is in South Africa, the DA said on Sunday.

Democratic Alliance MP Dianne Kohler Barnard claimed Saleh - the former chief of staff of slain Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi - had been seen several times in South Africa, most recently at the Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) summit in Durban earlier this year.

"If this is the case, and his identity was fully known, then it would seem that South Africa is deliberately harbouring a fugitive," said Kohler Barnard.

She said the DA would ask the portfolio committee on police to provide clarity about why Saleh, who was on Interpol's most wanted list, had not been arrested while in the country.

National police spokesperson Brigadier Phuti Setati said he did not have information about the issue.

"I'm not aware of those allegations, therefore I can't comment," he said.

  • Bertus Pretorius - 2013-06-02 23:16

    Typical. I don't know and can't comment. They also didn't know the Gupta's are landing a plane at a military base...

      Jacques Clouseau - 2013-06-03 09:04

      I can't agree more with your comment. Take the following hypothetical situation. Government is a listed company on a stock market. Its presiding officer arrives at a financial result meeting with shareholders. A shareholder poses a question. The presiding officer answers "I don't know and can't comment". Clearly such an answer would impress the shareholders to no end and the impact on the share price would be, to put it mildly, rather detrimental. Historically politics are somewhat similar to the stock market. It's but a matter of time before the existing shares takes a hit and go under. I, like many others, may just be fortunate enough to see this happen in our lifetime. One day, people will wake up and start to smell the roses, whoever the next Blue Chip may be.

  • Sibusiso Sibisi - 2013-06-03 00:09

    Oh shame Brigadier Phuti you do not know anything about the issue. Its fine even the army commander JZ did not know Gupta were in the army landing zone. Same incompetent story you were with the guy in Durban interpol is looking for the man, you never saw him I think. What if you are called sister than being brigadier this is too much for you i think.

  • Mnr Willemse - 2013-06-03 00:46

    "that South Africa is deliberately harbouring a fugitive" Mrs Barnard, isn't Bush, Blair, Sharon, Netenyahu and Obama the biggest criminals of them all in recent years? And who exactly decides if someone should stand trial? Do people even know that it was the British Empire that started WW2 and not Hitler? Are people aware that the British used concentration camps in south African long before Hitler did? Why is the focus always on black south Africans getting compensation when our khoisan forefathers lost and suffered much more and for much longer? Why are we not entitled to our land and have to abide by the rules of the blacks and whites about land compensation, and who is entitled? If this man lives in south Africa, then leave him alone Mrs Barnard and go and criticise Israel, USA and the UK.

      Smart Peace - 2013-06-03 04:18

      I'm confused!!! anyway, let me ask only one question out of all what you just said: aren't the Khoisan Blacks?

      Samuel Khazamula Bila - 2013-06-03 05:13

      I think Khoisan r coloureds bcoz thy smoking anything tht is readly available.thy r nt black got tht.

      Simphiwe Charlie - 2013-06-03 06:41

      Spot on Mnr!! At last someone with some common sense, Gadaffi never did SA any wrong, why should his associates be a problem? We should not take sides, the DA is just an extension of the UK/US/Europe and thier values, it will never be a true African party.

      Farzana Rahiman - 2013-06-03 07:37

      this,,, is exactly why we cannot deal with our issues- get ur head into reality of ur own country TODAY... to do that_ u need to stop blaming the world for everything. we a country up for sale to the highest bidder. and u havnt noticed the ANC is the one thats selling it!

      Juan Jordaan - 2013-06-03 10:02

      Rather replace the corrupt cANCer, than vote DA. DA is backed by the NWO that likes placid and brainwashed financial slaves. Neither the ANC or DA has benefits for us.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-03 10:55

      Mnr Willemse. You confuse the hell out of me. What does a Libyan money launderer got to do with the KhoiSan? I hardly think you are the appropriate person to tell Ms. Barnhard what to do.

  • Themba Clinton Bhengu - 2013-06-03 01:39


      Petro Jahnel - 2013-06-03 03:23

      Shame...and you must just want a brain...

      Richard Scully - 2013-06-03 04:47

      Themba you idiot, no wonder you vote ANC

      Gary Doyle - 2013-06-03 05:17

      Themba you could maybe be forgiven for not reading the whole story but you didn't even take note of the heading, eish!!

      Bogatsu Pilane - 2013-06-03 07:18

      Themba, Themba, it's really sad... Which part did you read?

      Pollen K Teffo - 2013-06-03 12:44

      So basically what this scum back @Richard is saying is that all people who vote for ANC are idiots!!what does it make those who vote for DA?!you still have a long way to go!!DA will never win elections..

  • Gary Doyle - 2013-06-03 05:13

    Speaks volumes again for SA's intelligence services, or rather lack of intelligence services.

  • Piet Boerie - 2013-06-03 05:44

    We have become a safe haven for Italian, Russian, Moroccan, Chinese, Vietnamese and Nigerian mafia. Then African despots call South Africa home and we wonder why we have a crime wave. Its perfect, look at Arthur J Brown, you can steal and launders millions and get a slap on the wrist.

  • Malcolm Kobane - 2013-06-03 06:15

    Heee! Where's Mark Thatcher? I'm scared.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-06-03 11:24

      he was seen loitering in Cape Town. DA cared less about it.

      Miguel Capelo - 2013-06-03 11:57

      Stuff him... and Gaddaffi... Stuff both of them! Wake up!

  • Peter Zylstra - 2013-06-03 06:22

    We must not forget where the anc comes from......They will always be sympathetic towards terrorists hence al qaeda camps, gupta saga etc.

      Victor van der Walt - 2013-06-03 07:07

      Wont be long before the Americans start looking hard at south africa and brand us as a terrorist supporting country.

      Miguel Capelo - 2013-06-03 12:05

      @Azande Deny deny deny... as if that will help your argument. We came to a democracy because of Terrorism. We will never leave this state of affairs... it will continue. The populist uprising will not be unlike Gadaffi's Libya. As long as we support mass murderers like Mugabe with our taxpayers money as well as other Dictators who came to power via coups... (C.A.R etc) If in my wildest dreams the ANC lost the next election, they would simply return to TERRORISM under the guise that the elections were rigged by the WHITE man. Even if a black man or lady won the next elections they would say it was the WHITE MAN! They know how they have us by the throats... and by us I mean THE PEOPLE.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2013-06-03 06:35

    Eish!..... Eeehhh... Me l doooo not knooow...aowa..... INCOMPETENCE SHINING BRIGHT

  • Justin Afrika - 2013-06-03 07:19

    Remember Sibusiso Sibisi that it was the ANC that chose to have NP join with it. I was at a medical conference at Birchwood at the same time that the DA had its national elective conference at Birchwood. I am no supporter of the DA. However, the fact remains that I observed that whites were in fact far in the minority at their elective conference

  • Musawashe Moyo - 2013-06-03 07:20

    Libya is in Africa,correct me of lm wrong. SA is in Africa. Gaddafi's henchman is in Africa, his home continent. He's nt going around killing or robbing anybody,so why arrest him. R.I.P Colonnel Muammar Gaddafi.

      Farzana Rahiman - 2013-06-03 07:33

      troll alert....

      Payricia Bull - 2013-06-03 08:52


      Musawashe Moyo - 2013-06-03 09:31

      So the DA seem to knw much about arresting ppl, why was he not arrested when he was in Washington DC

  • Arthur Salvado - 2013-06-03 07:30

    We giving bananas a bad name. Bananas deserve more than this republic

  • Don Tandy - 2013-06-03 07:41

    He has money, he is associated with corruption, he supported an ignorant tyrant - makes sense that he would be hanging out with showerhead.

      Thami Shongwe - 2013-06-03 09:52

      under that "ignorant tyrant", education and health care of the highest standard was free for all libyan ppl, if it was not available in libya the libyan government funded for this to be excesed anywhere in the world,it's that same "tyrant" who made all loans from libyan banks interest free by law & ppl who wished to start farming were given land, seed and resources by government.The same tyrant whose own parents died before they had their own house coz he promised to house everyone in libya before his family. It's that same "ignorant tyrant" that spent billions in building an undergroung river in a dessert even when western media called it the "mad man's river" that eventually supplied water for all ppl of libya, that's just to mension only a few things that your main stream media fails to let you know about. His only crime against humanity was pushing for the introduction of the "african gold dina" a currency made of gold, that all african countries will collectively use to trade all our natural resources with the outside world. So u tell me was his crime against his own ppl or was he an "ignorant tyrant" againt the western world who do not have gold and have not had gold in their reserve banks since 1934 (the US)

  • Mdluli Vusi - 2013-06-03 08:46

    Why not arrest Obama for killing Osama.

      Payricia Bull - 2013-06-03 08:51

      Banana brain

      Azande Futhi - 2013-06-03 11:29

      What about Bush who murdered thousands in Iraq on his legacy witch-hunt?

      Mdluli Vusi - 2013-06-03 12:28

      Payricia Bull you must educate yourself on these issues before you comment.Do you know that Osama was never entered in the FBI wanted list because there was no evidence of his involvement in the 9/11 attack.Mohammed Omar the than leader of Afghanistan told the US to show him the evidence of bin laden's involvement,he will hand him over.what happened no evidence the US decided that the war was the solution.why assassinate osama and dump the body in the ocean.Why they didn't want him alive.Some babies were dropped on their heads but you were clearly thrown at a wall.Payricia Bullshi.....

  • Bra N'Darkie - 2013-06-03 08:52

    I wonder if life of a common Libyan has improved since the west sponsored murder of Gaddafi.

      Donovan Hendricks - 2013-06-03 09:31

      Gaddafi was a tyrant a murderer and a thief.he deserved to die period!

      Bra N'Darkie - 2013-06-03 09:51

      All African leaders who don't suffer from Whiteman dependence syndrome get the tyrant label. Libya was a better country under Gaddafi rule, now it's being looted by the West with the help of the current government. Africa needs to wake up!

      Thami Shongwe - 2013-06-03 10:26

      Donovan, you are a victim of main stream media propaganda, just take a few minutes to really find out about the true state of libya before invaision from the western world

      Azande Futhi - 2013-06-03 11:30

      Libya will never be well again. Exactly what US planned. Divide and rule. Fu**en morons.

  • Angela Banda - 2013-06-03 08:53

    Guys , don't lie to yourselves . Do you see how the DA supporters call us stupid and all sorts of names . Imagine if they were in power ? we will go back to the alligator story . Lets stick to the mighty ANC till death do us part !!!

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-03 11:00

      Angela Banda, You and the ANC deserve each other.

  • Elvis Brown - 2013-06-03 09:06

    Hey,welcome 2 my world,THE NEW AFRICAN WORLD,where high ranking politicians gather 2 discuss how 2 get rich QUICK,in the name of SUMMITS,n DEVELOPMENT meetings,

  • Ot Thole - 2013-06-03 09:35

    so what?? how does this impact South Africa, if the DA paid more attention to other things than matters of the police (interpol) South Africa would be a better place.

      Deon Visser - 2013-06-03 09:57

      Ot, let me explain to you. Someone who is on Interpol's list of most wanted criminals was probably in SA wihtout (it seems) the police knowing it. If this does not concern you, nothing will Ouboet.

  • Donovan Hendricks - 2013-06-03 09:43

    Gaddafi was a murderer a tyrant and a thief.He was ousted and killed by the same people whom he oppressed and murdered for years.Himself, his sons and bodyguards had a reputation for raping the most beautiful women in that country and this thug Saleh was at the forefront of these attrocities commited.That fools on this blog can support and condone Gaddafi is beyond understanding.Burn in hell colonel Gaddafi!

      Thami Shongwe - 2013-06-03 10:44

      Donovan, please do some reaserch about libya before you make such comments. All education and health care was free in libya, if that was not readily availlable in libya, the libyan gov funded for it to be excesed anywhere in the world. All loans from libyan banks were interest free by law. Is that how a government oppresses it's ppl.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-03 11:03

      Thami Shongwe. Google is a great thing. But thank you, I prefer my knowledge that came from people who lived there. Free health, didn't mean freedom of speech did it?.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-03 10:47

    Another Gupthagate in the making.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-03 10:48

    Azande Futhi. She knows, I know and you don't. What else is there you are missing?.

  • Charles Kubhayi - 2013-06-03 11:03

    Why do we bother ourselves about allegations leveled by foreign countries like US who always dent Africans just for their selfish interests?

      Nathie Mxoli - 2013-06-03 12:49

      spot on Charles

  • Miguel Capelo - 2013-06-03 11:20

    There is plenty evidence. Check out the hundred of pics of Mandela hugging and kissing Gadaffi. Apparently one of Mandela's family (grandson)was named Gadaffi (awaiting confirmation on this). Mandela is on record as saying "my brother, my leader... my brother leader" to Gadaffi. The same dictator leader who bank rolled Idi Amin (and who bombed his own population) and the same leader that had his own people kill him... Also Zuma has his grubby paws (as well as half the ANC) in that blood money of the LIBYAN people. Look at the timeslive expose... As well as our head of SARS (ANC trough) Pravin... The yesteryear rhetoric of "colonialists" being the cause of Africa's problems is wearing thin... We are responsible and deseerving of the governments we choose. If the ANC continues to lead it means the PEOPLE are getting what they deserve. click on the Gadaffi picture to see a beaming Zuma and Gadaffi picture.

  • Mdluli Vusi - 2013-06-03 12:50

    Yet Cape Town's is South Africa's crime-free paradise for international fugitives.who flock to the city to ply their dubious many high-profile underworld figures involved in organised crime in Cape Town.Cape town is a gangsta's Paradise.

  • Andre Jacobs - 2013-06-03 12:54

    Phuti Setati made the wrong statement--she should have said they will immediately follow this up and have him arrested--but no--- she said she did not have information about this issue. It doesn't sound like she is all fired up to do the right thing or her job. This is again a security issue and with Obama coming to SA it may be his last living moments if Saleh organizes to have the attacker of his Gaddafi Libya assassinated or bombed----And high ranking anc officials are his friends. Obama better get a warning to avoid SA until Interpol can arrest this man. If SA is not supporting Interpol they must say so and the UN can kick them out of the UN.

  • Garrick Dunstan - 2013-06-03 23:47

    Unfazed, how Ungazi

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