Cleaning up Pretoria painful - mayor

2012-07-16 20:59

Pretoria - Efforts to clean up Pretoria city centre will be a painful process that must be tackled, Tshwane Mayor Kgosientso Ramokgopa said on Monday.

He told reporters the city was putting in effect a long-term strategy, dubbed Tshwane 2055, to overthrow "anarchy" in the capital city.

"It’s going to be a very painful exercise and there will be casualties," he said.

"People are used to the status quo and we are tampering with that status quo. Naturally, people respond by resisting."

The city has been at loggerheads with informal traders and some residents who were forced to vacate their stalls and flats.

On Monday, Tshwane Hawkers Association chairperson Shoes Maloka said his organisation was planning a protest march in the city this week.

The Schubart Park Residents Committee also said it had scheduled its protest march for 26 July.

"They have the right to march and we [will] give them the necessary permits to march. They should march in a manner that is consistent with the law; we will take the pain," said Ramokgopa.

Tshwane was engaging in a strategy to re-vitalise the city centre, which was being shunned by many people. The strategy was aimed at attracting businesses investment to the inner city.

"We want to bring life into the inner city. Part of the problem we are dealing with is that the city goes to sleep at six in the evening. We want to have some residential character - where people can wine and dine."

Ramokgopa said the municipality would soon announce the launch of an operation code-named "Reclaim".

Earlier, the Tshwane Hawkers Association said due to the municipality’s efforts to regulate hawkers in the inner city, some young people had been left with no means of income, resorting to crime.

"Many young people have now abandoned the honest business of selling. Some have resorted to crime while others spend days gambling around the city to eke [out] a living," said Maloka.

"Since January, we have not been able to make money through selling in the city. Remember most of us are breadwinners and we have many [financial] commitments," he said.

Maloka said the vendors were incensed because the city officials were relocating them from their usual stalls to new posts on the outskirts of the city.

  • keith.murphy.9638 - 2012-07-16 21:22

    Yes its by time to clean up the face of the City.To hell with them do they want the City to look like a public toilet? They have to give their same werking and if they resist the government should know what to do with them.Its time to really cean the face of the City , if they wanna march let them march but, they have to go and settle somewhere else bottom line.If they wanna behave like poepsakke then they have to accept what comes their way.

  • Rodney - 2012-07-16 21:34

    When I lived in Pretoria in the early 80's, it was clean and tidy. When I visited in 94 it was still pretty good. There is only one conclusion to be made, the ANC and it's deployment cadres have let the place go down the toilet in the intervening years, not upheld the by-laws, regulations or anything else for that matter. Never allow a situation to get out of hand, it takes 10 times as much work to repair the damage.

      Irene - 2012-07-16 23:21

      Not just Pretoria. The degradation is country wide, except for Western Cape. Thanks cANCer! Another job well done!

      Zahir - 2012-07-17 07:48

      And they only took 18 years to break down a working system they must be proud of that

  • SilverMecer - 2012-07-16 21:41

    All money spend on name changes could have been used to clean-up the city centre...

  • Henk - 2012-07-16 21:43

    You should change the name to Tswane. Pretoria was a beatiful city with a working administration.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-07-16 23:33

      That's why they changed the name.

  • racheal.phiri.54 - 2012-07-16 21:45

    This is indeed a noble cause which seeks to bring back law and order in the Central Business District of Pretoria. Every decent citizen of the city must support this wonderful plan of action by the Tshwane Metro Council. The Council must pursue this plan relentlessly because the benefits to be reaped will be so huge that even tourists will enjoy spending more time in the city than at the beaches. Those very few selfish individuals who think that they can stop this impressive plan must be told that the will of the majority and the nation shall prevail.

      liana.loots - 2012-07-16 22:09

      wow Racheal! where did you copy this from?

      Vicker - 2012-07-17 09:46

      racheal: you obviously not bright enough to ask yourself the question: why was it allowed to deteriorate to the state it is now? And Tshwane 2055? Is this the target date of the clean-up????

  • Erna - 2012-07-16 22:05

    Think its too little, too late. With so many things the anc has been guilty of since 1994 - let's throw out everything the previous bad government built up and do it our way - only to find out that they didn't have a clue. Instead of building and enlarging existing to cover a larger population, they let everything go to pot.

  • Henk - 2012-07-16 22:06

    Reclaim it back to it former state during apartheid? ec

  • edith.mabitsela - 2012-07-16 22:39

    Let's be prepared for more crime and more nyaope boys...cause clearly this is just taking food out of the people's mouth. There is a reason why malls are built a distance from city centre...

  • jack.harding.5 - 2012-07-16 22:59

    Just move the state theatre to some other place outside of pretoria so we can go and enjoy some playes there again, greetings, Jack

  • tommo.too - 2012-07-16 23:43

    Last time I was in Pretoria was in 1987. It was a stunning city centre. The jacaranda trees were spectacular. What has happened??? How did it get like this????

      Zahir - 2012-07-17 07:44

      Who is in charge of tswane? Anc the only thing they have done is too change names while the rest of the place rots and decays

  • des.cider - 2012-07-17 00:14

    Save the buildings that matter historically and move business and commerce (not street traders thank you) down the road to Centurion, which has taken over all but the useless government offices.

  • visko.vandermerwe - 2012-07-17 00:17

    I remember the city centers in SA looking so much like Sydney here, before 1994. I was truly shocked to see how SA cities and towns deteriorated so fast during my last visit to SA.

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-07-17 02:19

      Attention seeking clot. U are probably bored ryt now as we speak somewhere in die Kaapstad! Dream on jita, dream on. U'l neva line in NZ

      Mauritz Venter - 2012-07-17 05:11

      Mthezi, you racist idiot! You are part of a dying species.....ever travelled before? Ever read some books? Ever heard of the "broken window syndrome"?

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-07-17 13:11

      sibusiso studied at the university of Zimpopo, hence the unintelligible garbage and racism which spews from its pie-hole. Ignore it, it is a troll!

  • Karel du Toit - 2012-07-17 03:32

    The way they move these vendors and displace these people makes one think back to the way people where removed from land. But it is mostly black on black so it must be ok then.

  • colin.nieuwenhuizen - 2012-07-17 04:17

    Jesus, talk about long term. 2055? I really hope that's not when they expect to clean it up by. Anyone who accepts that time frame is really out of touch with reality. South Africa showed that during the build up to the soccer world cup, when something was on the line, that they can produce and clean things up where required, I don't know why they think that cleaning up one small city will take that amount of time.

      Vicker - 2012-07-17 09:48

      Yeah you right - 2055 is going to a very tight squeeze for the ANC to get something right...

  • HeadPixie - 2012-07-17 06:38

    Fantastic news. Hope it spreads...

  • david.mlambo.77 - 2012-07-17 06:53

    The issue of vendors must be addressed in such a manner as to allow pedestrians to use pavements freely while permitting vendors to make a living. Appreciated are the pavements that have been taken back from taxi operators

  • Wayne - 2012-07-17 07:06

    Why was it left to get to this state in the first place? Nonetheless, the sentiments expressed by Ramakgopa are positive. Lets hope there is sufficient political will to carry through

  • dean.polley.3 - 2012-07-17 07:29

    OMG! Is this the same man who wants to develop low cost housing amoungst the high value suburbs eg Silver Lakes. Mr Mayor, the owners and senior managers of the very businesses that you want to attract back into the city own properties and live in the high value suburbs of Pretoria, the very same areas you want to reduce to low cost slum areas. Please upgrade your vision to "clean up" the entire Pretoria area, not just the city centre!

  • dewaldmontgomery - 2012-07-17 07:37

    Brilliant. Operation 2055. The DA fixed the mess the ANC had let Cape Town become in the ten years they've controlled the city. What does this fact tell me? Simply give Pretoria to the DA. It will be fixed in 5-10 years, and the DA will be able to tackle to problems elsewhere. Sidenote: Isn't it ironic that Pretoria was still BEAUTIFUL in 1992? WHAT HAPPENED, ANC? LACK OF MAINTENANCE? LACK OF SERVICE DELIVERY? LACK OF PRIDE? LACK OF POLITICAL WILL? All of the above!

  • maniza.ahoua - 2012-07-17 08:08

    This is a good idea to clean up, go to durban including some of the township, it is so clean people know how to keep our city clean. a person who throw a paper or empty bottle on the floor was not taught at school not to do so PLEASE KEEP OUR COUNTRT CLEAN

  • robin.mcdee.73 - 2012-07-17 08:26

    Rev. dr Manning (see youtube) a negro clergyman of the USA claims that blacks don't have a clue how the world (of the white man ) works - even despite being highly qualified; !! What is happening to this country appears to support this view !

  • elenthal - 2012-07-17 08:59

    great idea. but I cannot see this happening without some sort of racial blame ( the mindset of south africa )

  • Quartus - 2012-07-17 09:14

    Enjoy the cleaning up mr mayor. You and your ANC friends are after all responsible for creating this mess! Pretoria was a beautiful, clean city without squatters selling rubbish on the pavements.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-17 09:50

    Learn some lessons. 1. Do preventative maintenance. 2. Enforce by-laws 3. Strengthen the dialogue between municipalities and property owners so that everyone shares in maintenance 4. Don't employ, or contract, wasters even if they are politically connected In other words keep on top of it or it will get on top of you

  • thabob.zumagabe - 2012-07-17 10:15

    And the Cape Town CBD around the old golden acre area is a disaster !! Why, I ask, what changed after 1994 to sit with these messes ?

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-17 10:34

      thabob: I recall visiting Golden Acre (because I was told that it was special) in the late 70s/early 8os. It was a great place, has it really gone to the dogs? Maybe it is not so complicated? In a democracy both rich and careing as well as poor, dirty, lazy people also have a right to space and life! (to draw very broad differentials) The first group will be prepared to expend energy and resources to ensure attractive (to them) surroundings, and that will attract more likeminded people to the area. The second group will be less able (and probably less willing) to maintain and build attractive (to the first group) surroundings which will then attract more degeneration. So, maybe the municipality should step in and spend more? That may be socially correct, but I doubt that it will much change the differential between the two places, and just how much more tax should be spent to go down the drain?

  • gary.clark.376 - 2012-07-17 11:10

    Start by firing all the cops that work in Pretoria, they are a huge problem. Corrupt like their government.Pretoria used to have a night life until the ANC took over, just another example of how they have dropped the ball.

  • robin.mcdee.73 - 2012-07-17 15:26

    "...Cleaning up Pretoria painful - mayor.." Mr mayor - is it painful because you will actually have to do some work ?

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