Cosatu: Committee good, tolls still bad

2012-05-04 22:01

Johannesburg - Cosatu on Friday welcomed a Cabinet decision to appoint a special committee for Gauteng freeways, but maintained that e-tolling was not acceptable.

"We are confident that it will find a more equitable and efficient model than e-tolling, which has become so discredited, unpopular and impractical," the Congress of SA Trade Unions said.

Earlier in the day, Cabinet announced a special committee would be formed to co-ordinate all work around the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP).

The committee's brief is to move rapidly to ensure that the financial stability of the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) was unaffected.

Cosatu said in a statement it expected the committee would work closely with the ANC and Cosatu's joint task team.

This team had already started researching alternative models for funding road construction and improvements.

Cosatu said it agreed with Minister of Performance Monitoring and Evaluation Collins Chabane, who said earlier on Friday that decisions taken regarding the GFIP would impact on future infrastructure funding.

"Cosatu fully agrees that the government must act responsibly, and ensure it and state-owned enterprises honour their financial obligations timeously."

Cosatu said it would insist that e-tolling was no longer an option. Other ways had to be found to meet the government's objectives.

Chabane said the government had to act responsibly, and ensure it and state-owned enterprises (SOEs) honoured their financial obligations timeously, he said.

"Government must also ensure that nothing compromises the huge infrastructure programme which is crucial for raising the level of South Africa's economic growth, and for raising the standard of living of citizens, especially the poor and unemployed."

Sanral had planned to introduce e-tolling in Gauteng on 1 May.

However, a court ruling issued on Saturday halted the e-tolling plans pending the outcome of a full court review.

  • Africanism - 2012-05-04 22:27

    Cosatu you are not the ruling party so let ANC run this country the way they see fit.

      Raj - 2012-05-04 22:46

      And which way is that? The only way I see is that they are sowing extra pockets.

      logen.naidoo - 2012-05-04 23:32

      How much is the goverment paying u to write positive comments on their F### ups.

      Sam - 2012-05-04 23:55

      well said this Vavi is domkop I thought Malema was alone not really

      grenville.felton - 2012-05-05 10:50

      GFL FBI,Government Special Committee for Gauteng road = etoll scandal , shakiek , SAAB, raping our mines all fuc............ fraudsters. independent commitee YES , the government is so corrupt there is nothing honest about them, SA are the laughing stock of the world. Railroad amendments Information Bill why! hidden agendas and underhand deals are surfacing like a festering sore, years of raping this country.

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-04 22:40

    anyway you look at it, it's bad.

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-05-05 10:18

      Yeah especially since they upgraded the roads, then the tolls and only then established a committee ( read more tax-payer money being flushed ). What about having had a referendum about the tolls first or build a viable transportaton system, then upgrade the highways and then build the tolls? This would have supported job creation from the start and a healthier economy rather than going straight to a method that ultimately would have only negatively affected the economy.

  • Raj - 2012-05-04 23:00

    Daniel, believe what you want to, but the e-tolls are going to affect all end users. This also happens when the price of fuel goes up. It doesn't really matter whether you have a vehicle or not. The companies simply put up the prices on goods thus consumers have to pay the price or do without it. I see the price of goods going up every time the fuel price increases but when fuel prices go down I don't see the price of goods going down

      Sam - 2012-05-05 00:10

      that is fear of unknown,cool down, price is regulated you dont just wake up and decide on price , thats is the reason Tiger Brand was fined for inflating bread, similar situation with Sasol, stop talking about something you dont know, stop fear, the consumer council is there to look at all these uncertanities price has never been decided by etoll at all , demand and supply is a deciding factor for cpix

      Raj - 2012-05-05 06:08

      Sam I don't think you understand basic concepts, do you think that companies are just going to absorb the costs of delivery from their profits? You are definitely not cut out for a businessman.

      Sam - 2012-05-05 11:02

      Raj govt tax is nt to bankroll business ppl whereas there are poor children called refugees in the eastern cape , make use of your brains , stop being yourself , if your business is difficult in GP the sky is the limit, we are nt going to accept selfish ppl like yourself in this country, inconsiderate/greedy person,

  • Sam - 2012-05-04 23:32

    Im nt happy with what Vavi is doing, I think this is time for him to leave, we cannt have the govt spend the entire budget, on upgrading GP roads and the users dont pay for the roads, yet we have township/rural schools not upgraded ,expect to increase science/maths graduates in those schools without labs. Vavi is taking this country down the drain, tax is nt for aristocrats ,ppl driving on these roads are driving X5s,Cayennas,Range Rovers etc they must pay for their 18 inch tyres. working class Vavi thinks is fighting for is using METRO RAIL from Soweto,Vereeniging,Tembisa,Pta towships etc. I real dont understand what is Vavi up to, Iam saying this because Im a graduate from rural school studied science without laboratory which has been denied by GP motorists to maintain their high class living standard

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-05 00:31

      Sam, as there are many expensive cars on the road, there are also a lot of older cars too. Mine is probably older than you are. We employ 2 black people. If we have to pay toll fees we would have to let those black staff members go and find jobs elsewhere. That is what the tolls would have done to us. The funds that should have been spent on your schools have probably been thrown away on big 4x4s or holidays or fancy restaurants by the government employees that have been entrusted with the job of looking after you - and they have failed you. Please use your vote sensibly when the time comes.

      George - 2012-05-05 03:28

      I detect a SCAMRAL offensive. Very offensive.

      Jason - 2012-05-05 05:17

      @Sam I don't think I have ever seen food prices come down when petrol did come down in price, what the supermarkets do is claim they having a "special" and only on certain goods, but after 2 weeks the price is back to what it was at peak.

      thapsta - 2012-05-05 06:48

      Sam the money that should have upgraded your school was spent on these mec's lavish lifestyles and for your information people driving x5s are already paying to use these roads in fuel levi and vehicle licences.\r\n\r\nThese etolls are a bad idea cos currently there many ppl who cant afford to put gas in their cars for the whole month , now how are those ppl going to pay the etolls aswell and what do u think will happen wen they dont pay.

      Raul - 2012-05-05 09:20

      Sam its a pity that you studied science only without a lab, perhaps you should have had a hint of basic economics also when you studied and you dont need a lab for that,then you would have understood the whole matter.Probably schools have no labs because funds are used to purchase arms and weapons that we don't need and the most expensive developed e-toll system in the world (which only two countries, Germany and USA, are using)which like the arms deal, was dumped in a third world country.

  • Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-05-04 23:47

    africanism you are an idiot read a book use ur brain think about it a bit then you will c u will hate the anc

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-05-05 00:25

    All those billions of Rands, it makes my heart break - when I think about all the good the money could have done for so many ... Maybe government will do their homework next time, before trying to fleece the public. And they nearly got away with it. Thank you Dembovsky and team for your diligent efforts.

  • George - 2012-05-05 03:26

    Wow, can we have a presidential committee on crime to BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY asap. e-tolling can wait till later. If we don't, there soon might not be anyone left to care about it.

      Florence - 2012-05-05 11:40

      U r absolutely right George, a neutral, conscientious, unbias general committee with full representatives who hold SA's economy, growth, development at heart without pushing political agenda perpetuated by greed. We need a 360 degree turnaround to turn around this beautiful country of ours. Not too late.

      Siyabonga - 2012-05-05 13:08

      good thought, im ignoring the UPPER CAPS WORDS, coz it wont happen not in the SA we fought for.

      George - 2012-05-05 13:28

      So Mr Siyabonga, did you fight for the SA where mothers are shot down in front of young children, husbands executed in front of wives, old ladies tortured with hot irons then bashed to death, young (even mentally retarded) children raped for sport. If that's the case, you have lost. Your ancestors will teach you lessons and the tokoloshe will visit. If that's not the case why are you not fighting to protect the white minority in this country against this disease?

  • Florence - 2012-05-05 03:39

    This special committee should have long been appointed to coordinate and prioritize all development projects in GENERAL. This e-tolling is just money gone on waste.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-05-05 06:30

    Typical...make a balls up...establish a committee...persecute the innocent !!

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-05-05 06:44

    Costs are mounting and at the end of the day the cost of defending the e toll (GFIP)will exceed the real cost of the build. At this time it appears to be a case of trying to save face in view of the manner in which the whole saga has been handled.

  • Simphiwe - 2012-05-05 07:07

    IF e-tolling is not an option,let people suggest possible alternatives to substitute e-tolling so that the debt incurred as a result of highway upgrading is repaid.

      Sam - 2012-05-05 10:06

      Well said sir, I think the govt is hold hostage here, when there are potholes they are the ones rantings about poor govt, yet they are great enemies /hatred communism, how come they want things for free, what we see with this etoll is hypocrite/doublestandard by DA for cheap politicking, our democracy is slowly taken away with the help of Vavi, we need to pay the upgrading of roads for the govt to have a share to upgrade township/rural schools , with education we will fight unemployment,poverty, hunger, To those who don’t want etoll must use METRO RAIL

      George - 2012-05-05 13:55

      Too bad if you're a secret SCAMRAL shareholder. You shares are worth what the SA public say they are worth; O

  • Vusumuzi - 2012-05-05 07:23

    big up 2 Cosatu

  • Piet - 2012-05-05 07:35

    This is just more wasting of tax payers money. What is this commitees overheads and how long is the contract for them to come to a conclusion? How many departments do we need to look after the roads? All i see is more BEE salaries for nothing in return. It is time for the ruling party to be voted out.

      Piet - 2012-05-05 07:38

      and why do you need an alternate funding model? Licence disks? Enatis transaction fees? Fuel levies? Traffic fines? Where has these billions gone to? Whydoes the commitee not tell us that?

  • Chikane - 2012-05-05 08:55

    Government is people, so we owm govt which owns State Owned Enterprises, like SAA, Eskom, Transnet and etc. Sanral ltd is one of them, their 20 billion debt is our (govt/citizens) debt. The govt(people) will eventually pay their dues, one way or highway. As responsible and commited N1 users and citizens, let's pay our 20b debt straight, and avoid high tax burdens. The presidential commitee is costin us another million and time(interest on debt).

      Sam - 2012-05-05 11:39

      Im so happy that ppl who have sober minds about the country are coming out in support of etolling, we cannt inconvinience other ppl living outside GP to suffer at the expense of GP roads, GP ppl must pay they were irritating us about potholes in 2010, when its their turn they cry foul

  • Raul - 2012-05-05 09:06

    Wrong again! What about the rest of us? Why Cosatu and ANC only. Its obvious that Cosatu have their own agenda and interest in the matter. Shouldn't OUTA and other representative bodies that are opposing to it get involved also? We are the ones that had the balls to take the matter to court anyway. Should we be apart of the negotiations and COSATU and ANC should then decide for us?

      Sam - 2012-05-05 09:48

      I love your econ analysis, Im nt sure which bush institution you got it, as far as I understand feasibility study was conducted to purchase those arms, including econ study, to remind you , the arms that were used by SANDF were outdated, were no longer compliant to current situation, coming to the crux of my point, SANDF employs professionals, like scientists who had vast knowledge /experience in military, your take is those professionals must be blindfolded/absolute by govt at the end of the day they leave the country to work for US Army where they have advance facilities, current scenario Africa is attacked by Somalians hijacking ships with goods, Dbn citizens are among those hold hostage in somalia, is this what your economics teaching is, when export is seized by somalis and the whole world is standstill, your econ is questionable indeed when you forget the risk involved in importing/exporting activities

  • henk63 - 2012-05-05 11:00

    Appoint committees, again? What for, just to waste more money?

      Muisie - 2012-05-05 11:12

      As they say....a donkey is a racehorse designed by an Government committee.

  • George - 2012-05-05 13:35

    I believe one honest judge trumps a committee of suspect corrupt politicians. Do NOT REGISTER, NO E-TAG, DO NOT PAY FOR WHAT IS ALREADY YOURS. Freedom of movement is guaranteed by the constitution. Toll all you want but ONLY on new roads where there is a perfectly sound and well-maintained alternate route and only till the capital cost is recovered..

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