Cosatu backs call for nationalisation

2011-08-06 22:34

Johannesburg - Nationalisation is the only thing that can bring South Africa out of a "corrupt" capitalist economy, Cosatu said on Saturday.

"Nationalisation can bolster our economy and it will always ensure development," Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi told journalists at a seminar on Cuba, in Kempton Park, Johannesburg.

"The ANC is looking into its benefits and we know that it will be an important contributor to prosperity in this country."

The ANC on Friday said it did not have any policies on the nationalisation of the mines.

"It is misleading to say the ANC has agreed to nationalisation of the is not a foregone conclusion that there will be nationalisation but we are not opposed to nationalisation," ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza said.

Vavi said that the Freedom Charter, which was pioneered by the ANC in 1955, stated that the wealth and resources of the country needed to be distributed amongst its citizens.

"This is why nationalising our mines will bring money to our people, and not just benefit and profit people in the private sector."

He said that South Africa would move forward economically if it followed the example of socialist countries like Cuba.

"Those who criticise socialism don't look at how many lessons our country can take from the successes of Cuba. It took them just one year to clean up illiteracy in their country, and now they also have a surplus of doctors.

"We are the complete opposite of them, and we have to think about how a small country, with no resources, is doing better than us," Vavi said.

  • Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-06 22:38

    This is rubbish. Narionalisation will kill potential economic growth and discourage entrepreneurialism.

      thinkza - 2011-08-06 22:45

      Rubbish is an understatement. I wish I could get paid for talking crap like our leaders do.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-06 22:47

      Nationalization I meant or nationalisation!

      Fred - 2011-08-06 23:12

      Nationalisation is the only thing that can bring South Africa out of a "corrupt" capitalist economy, Cosatu said on Saturday. If this is so, just who is going to run these mines? The ANC have already proved that they are the "corrupt capitalists" and it's just going to get worse. Time to learn to say - "Howzit, my China" then we will see COSATO grovel !!!!!

      Left Screwed - 2011-08-06 23:55

      Look NORTH

      Michael - 2011-08-07 00:16

      History is doomed to be repeated. Don't these leaders study political history or just open eyes and ears to the rest of the world.

      Atholl - 2011-08-07 00:24

      The Constitution & the Bill of Rights is bigger than the Freedom Charter, unfortunately. That's why we have a Constitutional Court --- not a Freedom Charter Court.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-07 00:30

      Indeed Thandiwe.., Has this freak Zwelinzima Vavi (he who talks in such riddles, it even baffled his host on CNN) ever actually been to Cuba. Calling Cuba "a success", is like saying Zimbabwe has the strongest economy in the known universe - in fact it is like saying the Zim$ will now become the global reserve currency. The only one that will believe such hideous crap is that syphilis monster - Mugabe. Cuba is effectively insolvent and as its ally Venezuela is also sliding into the abyss of another 'socialist economic basket case' (despite an abundance of resources). Large numbers of Cubans survive on money sent from relatives working in the USA and it is in many ways what is keeping the Cuban economy clutching at the few straws of survival that is left. Cuba does not have a surplus of doctors - the reality is that the Cuban state afford to pay its doctors - they are simply running away-, or are being sent away, on the proviso they will send money back to Cuba... He called others 'hyenas' - not only has he evidently never been close to Cuba (certainly not while being conscious), it has evidently been a while since he has looked in the mirror, to see what zoo inhabitant has emanated from his shoes. PS: Why are these freaks, suddenly starting to reference the 'freedom charter', of late..? It is meaningless piece of gibberish that is incoherent and devoid of any legal substance.., well in fact devoid of any substance, per se. SA is governed by its Constitution - period.

      za101 - 2011-08-07 05:29

      I agree Thandiwe83 Whatever gains there is my profit of mines, will be lost in tax revenue. I dont see how BMW, Toyota and VW keeping factories in South Africa after mines are nationalised. There are many industries that will simply shut down completely. The ANC is playing with fire, with this nationalisation talk. They are putting the all social welfare programmes including government pension, child support grants at risk. Employees of gov could see their salaries frozen if tax revenues start to fall. And we could see gov having to increase VAT to over 20%. And foreigners own over a trillion rand. If nationalisation is even considered by the ANC, there will be a rush to get rid of rands, collapsing the currency, causing prices to increase. High inflation and high interest rates will follow.

      za101 - 2011-08-07 05:32

      and also, government employees in CUBA such as doctors, nurses, judges, police, firemen, etc all earn a lot less than South Africa. At the moment South African government employees earn some of the best salaries in the developing world. Nationalise, and gov employees will see their standard of living fall.

      za101 - 2011-08-07 05:36

      All this talk about nationalisation is hurting the economy. This coming week, I have to convince a relative to not take a loan to buy a property, because I dont think they would be able to afford high interest rates that will come from a falling rand, higher inflation and higher interest rates. So very good COSATU and ANCYL. People are already making decisions, that are slowing the economy down.

      Hux - 2011-08-07 06:25

      Has this moron been to Cuba?

      AA - 2011-08-07 06:39

      Agreed Spyker, how can Cuba be called a success ? Is this the type of society South Africa wants to emulate ? Scary.

      Schalk - 2011-08-07 07:30

      Oh my... Cosatu was just starting to make a bit of sense in the last few months, but have now once again labelled themselves as complete morons. I encourage Vavi and co to, as an interesting exercise, type in "Cuba capitalism" in Google. You could learn a lot and not hit your name with a plank every time you make a statement. Again, you cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. This is as much a law of life as gravity.

      rosemari - 2011-08-07 07:40

      Seems as if Cosatu think Nationalisation will stop corruption ...Just shows how stupid they are. The ANC is rotten to the core with corruption and when they are caught with their fingers in the cookie jar nothing is done about it. Greedy people are the cause of corruption not nationalisation. Your crazy ideas will have more people out of jobs and a much higher rate of proverty

      Ozymandios - 2011-08-07 08:11

      Athol I agree with everything you say and have said so far on this topic but; I do not for one moment see how you will get the ANC to comply with our Constitution as they hankere after the Freedom Charter as their sole document. They accepted the Constitution back in 1992-94 as it was the means to an end, and to get the world to say 'Hey well done we are rid of Apardheid!" But that they believe in it? No, I can't see that. And who is going to take the ANC to The Hague World Court to comply? It matters not a fig what is legal, right and constitutional in SA - the ANC make up their own rules as they go along and the Freedom Charter is all they accept to get their "true" rule of law in place. Who is going to force the ANC ANVYL Cosatu SACCP to abide by the Constitution? Not us. It'll be martial law and then we are stuffed. And the UK/US EU won't even listen to our problems then. Thats my biggest fear. The ANC has no respect for the Constitution. Mandela signed it but he's history now as far as Zuma / Malema is concerned and may even think he shouldn't have signed it any way.

      Neil - 2011-08-07 08:40

      I wonder who is running this country? ANCYL or Costau, cause the ANC clearly lost it's grip.. How pathetic, from one idiot organization to another. Whoopy.

      tryanything - 2011-08-07 09:52

      My problem is working out what this discussion is distracting us from....Can somebody tell us where this Cosatu Guy lives and what his lifestyle is like I am sure he is ok ........

      Mkushi - 2011-08-07 09:55

      Tax is South Africans contribution to nationalisation,

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-25 16:30

      Simple solution to this is that land owners MUST sell their land at the municipal valuation if it is identified for expropriation. That way it's a win-win solution, with the owner getting a fair price and the state achieving its targets.

  • Joey_van_vyk - 2011-08-06 22:40

    Any way these mines belongs to we have something like Anglo American in SA, but u will never find something named African something in any country, THEREFORE LETS NATIONALIZE....... ANY ONE SUPPORTING ME? ..remember china nationalized their resources, and they are second best in the best performing economy.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-06 22:42

      Private companies do the mining in China. On fact the more they have privatized the better their economy has performed. This will be damaging for ANC if they nationalised as won't win them any votes - only potentially lose more votes!

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-06 22:49

      Bloody HTC predictive spelling - in not on!

      Snoek - 2011-08-06 23:13

      Joey, I disagree with you. They say America is a Democratic country with Communist tendencies and China is a communist country with Democratic tendencies. I guess this explains the Chinese success and why the Americans are in trouble. Nationalisation never worked anywhere in the world, why would it work here?

      Left Screwed - 2011-08-06 23:58

      They remodeled their economy

      Ogre - 2011-08-07 01:53

      To be globally competitive while the mines were state owned and run the majority of miners were grossly underpaid and also worked with political prisoners as labour,the reason for Chinas's bad record in human rights. The mines were later turned over to private companies to operate in order to stay productive,FACT.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 02:38

      China has no unions. Lets follow China.

      Creeky - 2011-08-07 07:50

      "This is why nationalising our mines will bring money to our people, and not just benefit and profit people in the private sector." How will the "PEOPLE" get PAID OUT????????? Similar to how the ANC ELITE is being "PAID OUT"????? TRUST FUNDS?????? SHARES???? Please Vavi and COSATU... do NOT express an OPINION if you DON'T COMPREHEND!!!!!!!!!!!! Making FOOLS of yourselves, that YOU ARE!!!!! Look at how SUCCESSSFUL Cuba is... on the Economic front!!!! I believe iCuba is Bank-F**KING-RUPT!!!! South Africa HAD TO PAY THEM R2,5 BILLION the other day... just to keep their "LEADA'S" HAPPY!

      OZNOB - 2011-08-07 08:08

      joey van wyk ARE YOU ON SOME SORT OF PSYCHO MEDICATION OR ARE YOU SMOKING YOUR SOCKS OR SOMETHING ? anyway one cannot compare china to south africa as the workers have a completely different work ethic and they shoot criminals on a very very regular basis - if that were the case in south africa the government would have been changed several time already - and thats before the elctions

      Neil - 2011-08-07 08:43

      @Joey: Everyone giving you a thumbs down clearly missed your sarcasm. LOL! @Everyone giving Joey a thumbs down..... Suckers! LOL

      Dragon7605 - 2011-08-07 11:13

      I also support the idea, but who will manage it? If you look at any state organisation, none is managed properly. Corruption and poor management, not forgetting the hyenas, will cause this not to work. And I think this is what most people is scared of.

  • StBad - 2011-08-06 22:41

    Are you serious... countries like Cuba!???!!!! A thriving metropolis of milk and honey it isn't...

      Dominic - 2011-08-06 23:36

      "Typical wages range from factory worker's 400 Cuban pesos a month to doctor's 700. That is only around 17-30 U.S. dollars a month." I can't imagine COSATU accepting wages like that.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-06 22:47

    interesting. Cosatu seems to change their minds as much as JZ exchanges vows. They just don't learn. Not even their communist master's downfall across the world could open those incompetent eyes. I wonder if all of these wise one's will return thos fancy cars and leave the lavish life-style's behind?

      Dominic - 2011-08-07 07:52

      COSATU and ANCYL can't help but change their minds when everything they say is a contradiction: They call themselves "economic freedom fighters" and support nationalism. I guess they don't know what economic freedom means. - Definition of economic freedom: The freedom to prosper within a country without intervention from a government or economic authority. Individuals are free to secure and protect his/her human resources, labor and private property. Economic freedom is common in capitalist economies and must incorporate other civil liberties to be deemed as truly free.

      Creeky - 2011-08-07 07:56

      Communism is FUNDED by CAPITALISM!!!!! These COMMIE'S are CURRENTLY ENJOYING the benifits of Capitalism.... a couple of 7 Series BMW's, Range Rovers and Blue Light Convoys do come to mind!!! I do not see Vavi, Gewed Mantashe, Blade Nzimande or Jeremy Cronin, walking the streets "WITH THE PEOPLE".... They "ENJOYING" the "STRUGGLE" from behind their 12 Foot Walled Forts / Compounds, whilst the "PEOPLE" happily live in SQUALLOUR!!!!!!!!!!

  • Molton - 2011-08-06 22:50

    Do not ever mistake capitalism with democracy . Capitalism is a system of have's and have not's. It's the worst system in place which guarantees a minority always having a grip on the majority. Banks are a great example of how capitalism destroys society. Socialism, if managed in a democratic way is the best system.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 02:41

      Molton people have skills and capitalism brings out the best in people. The skilled and hard working get more opportunities and produce wealth. The poor aren't working? WHY? Because Vavi doesn't want them to work remember - minimum wages. How can a person become rich if they aren't working?

      kitchenboy3 - 2011-08-07 07:54

      Rubbish, socialism will only create have not's and have not's, just look at the former east germany, they are still trying to catch up to west german standards after 24 years

      Figuerro - 2011-08-07 09:27

      And the minority in SA are having just the grip you're talking 'bout on the majority that they shudder at the thought of losing it. They use legislation to protect their loot and interests and the sad part is that they being backed by a group of co-opted blacks to keep the legacy alive.

      Smk - 2011-08-07 10:35

      Communism and Socialism can work. The problem is Greed and greed is related to MONEY! If we remove money from the situation and everyone contributes and recieves things for free then there would be none of this BS. The farmer needs a tractor and oil to grow food, the tractor maker and oil driller need food to live. if each gave freely to eachother and recieved freely from eachother then we would not have the problems that MONEY! a useless piece of paper causes so much Shiz! causes for us presently. Money is a system of slavery and that is its intended purpose. If there is a alien race (Per say) do you really think they revolve their lives around Money like we scurry around for every day? I think not, the system that is in place is slavery. if it wasnt why are we as humans not happy, no matter how much money we have we always have problems, the reason is because we have money to start with.

  • vince muller - 2011-08-06 22:51

    Stop your and government corruption first.

  • Hein - 2011-08-06 22:52

    Will the ANC and Cosatu also want to nationalise the intelligence, educational qualifications, hard work, vision and ethics of those people who brought prosperity to South Africa and employment opportunities to millions? Land is worthless unless you have dedicated entrepreneurs, leaders and business managers who offer those qualities...

  • wehan.victor - 2011-08-06 22:53

    There goes my respect for Vavi...

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 03:19

      He hates capitalism because he picked up a book about socialism. He hates the wealthy because Karl Marx told him to hate the wealthy. Note: not how to create wealth for himself, no, how to be jealous of wealth.

      Rob Rabbit - 2011-08-07 06:43

      You mean you ever had respect for the man with a forked tongue?

  • debrakayestylist - 2011-08-06 22:54

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  • slg - 2011-08-06 22:55

    Geez, how disconnected with current reality can one be. Vavi, please point us to one, only one, successful society that operates on the principle you're recommending, as a public servant of South Africans.

  • Hammerman - 2011-08-06 22:55

    Yes like wonderfull Cuba... Are you f@?n kidding me? We wrote off their debt less than a year ago because they can't pay. Can someone please tell the idiots that run the country that Cuba and Zim are not ideal role models.

      Left Screwed - 2011-08-07 00:11

      To understand a Communist you would have to spend a day in the head of one. Only problem is that you are unable to survive a the vacuum.

  • Macho Mike - 2011-08-06 22:56

    Hier kom groot k*k, and the Chinese.

  • Gomez - 2011-08-06 22:58

    Those who want nationalisation keep pushing and pushing hoping that those who stand in their way will eventually give in.NO...WE WILL NOT GIVE IN,WE WILL NOT ALLOW SA TO BECOME THE THIRD WORLD HELL HOLE YOU SO DESPERATELY WANT,FORGET IT...IF YOU WANT IT...YOU ARE GONA HAVE TO BLOODY TAKE IT...BUT NOT WITHOUT A FIGHT...I WILL DIE FOR MY COUNTRY,WILL YOU?

  • Flamewulf - 2011-08-06 22:58

    I am totally and utterly disgusted. No words can fully describe this idiocy that the tripartite alliance wallows in.

      Flamewulf - 2011-08-06 23:00

      You know what? Before, as a youth I had hope in this country. Now more and more I feel that I must get outta here as soon as I can.

  • Squire - 2011-08-06 23:01

    How can they compare a small country of 11million people (and whose population has declined) to a country of 50milllion people whose population breeds faster than rabbits???

  • RuthK - 2011-08-06 23:01

    FRIGHTENING!!! Why don't we call Nationalozation whatis really is: Communism! The poor in this country will never be uplifted. They have done nothing more than invited communism into SA. And who gains from Communism? A handful of fatcats while everyone else will become poorer and more reliant on non-maintained national infrastructure that will simply fall apart.

      Creeky - 2011-08-07 08:00

      "BEEG BRUDDAH" theory does come to mind....?????????? Julius would LOVE to play the part of Napoleon!!!!!

      Creeky - 2011-08-07 08:01

      South Africa = African (Animal) Farm?

  • James - 2011-08-06 23:01

    Cosatu has missed the point! The fastest and leaset disruptive way to get rid of corrupt leaders is to vote them out of office. Cosatu should help do just that rather than suggest a failed economic policy.

  • gerda.pillay - 2011-08-06 23:02

    RIGHTEOUSNESS EXALTS A NATION - Not nationalisation....get rid of the corruption first....

  • andrew.hartung - 2011-08-06 23:07

    Corrupt capitalists... the only corruption is from the ANC members!!!

  • SeanJ - 2011-08-06 23:07

    The Cuban state adheres to socialist principles in organizing its largely state-controlled planned economy. Most of the means of production are owned and run by the government and most of the labor force is employed by the state. Recent years have seen a trend towards more private sector employment. By 2006, public sector employment was 78% and private sector 22%, compared to 91.8% to 8.2% in 1981.[102] Capital investment is restricted and requires approval by the government. The Cuban government sets most prices and rations goods. Any firm wishing to hire a Cuban must pay the Cuban government, which in turn will pay the employee in Cuban pesos.[103] Cubans can not change jobs without government permission.[53] The average wage at the end of 2005 was 334 regular pesos per month ($16.70 per month) and the average pension was $9 per month. Yea a shining example...

      Left Screwed - 2011-08-07 00:16

      If you were un-educated you to would believe in the Socialist/Communist fairy.

      Creeky - 2011-08-07 08:03

      What these ZOT'S don't understand is that under a COMMUNIST GOVT, the COWS they receive for LEBOLA, BELONGS TO THE GOVT...and are NOT to be slaughtered WITHOUT GOVT CONSENT!!!!!! Which part is APPEALING about that?

  • Pickle - 2011-08-06 23:07

    The only thing that will boost this country's economy, is the legalisation of marijuana. Think about it, tax on shops that sell it, annual license fee's to smoke it, creation of jobs by getting people to grow it. Not too mention the boost we will get from exporting it to other countries who have already legalised it. It's a much better idea than nationalisation... In my opinion anaway.

  • Andre - 2011-08-06 23:18

    Eish!! Yes just imagine a mine that perform like the Department of Home Affairs. I am sure Julius will run the carpentry shop on the mine, oh I forgot he could only get a F in wood work.

  • ryan.macdougall - 2011-08-06 23:33

    Its Fine let them nationalise the mines, but then dont demand hand outs like every other backwards nation in AFrica. Die quietly or kill your selves out like in Somalia. At this point im doen with Africa im getting My PDM from WBS and going abroad.

  • william.botha - 2011-08-06 23:38

    Cosatu, you have no right to dictate policy on something you know nothing of. You are unqualified to make this statement, therefore you are political fraudsters!

  • karleyk - 2011-08-06 23:38

    What a load of DICK HEADS South Africa is on its way to becoming another Zimbabwe

  • william.botha - 2011-08-06 23:43

    Except for that, Cosatu's leadership is really daft, or is that an understatement? Cuba is technically bankrupt.

  • Left Screwed - 2011-08-06 23:55

    It's the Communist that are stealing. As for using CUBA as an example, poor choice. The only reason Cuba survived was thanks to the USSR, this little island is on the bones of it's arse, hence the surplus Teachers and Doctors. COSATU should read more if it is possible, since we don't have teachers at the level of Cuban standards.

  • Hamilton Ngwenya - 2011-08-07 00:02

    We do not need nationalisation to better the living standards of SAfricans but clear vision, policy, clean governance [corruption cleansing] as well as competent management in key public institutions. SA is a potential 1st world country, only facing a vacuum in leadership, resource management and vision for the future.

  • Left Screwed - 2011-08-07 00:04

    Has COSATU seen just how many boat loads of people are leaving America trying to get to CUBA to find work for better a life?? When they do, I'll become a believer and look through their rose tinted glasses.

  • Claude - 2011-08-07 00:09

    Sorry guy's, look Zambia and Zaire mining business what it is now after nationalisation!!!!!

  • brinjal - 2011-08-07 00:45

    Cuba is so successful that thousands of their citizins risk there lives by trying to cross over to the USA in rickety unseaworthy boats.

  • Mozzie_ZA - 2011-08-07 00:52

    Well to not get all racial but majority of the economy is under white control, the gov thru nationalisation is only trying to get that control away. Now we all know how things turn out when the ANC gets their hands involved in things! So sad.

  • craigtjames - 2011-08-07 00:55

    The pros seem to be that the government takes care of its people. They provide medical care, enough money to live comfortably, and all live in peace. The reality is that it doesn’t work. In order for people to have goods and services, someone must supply those goods and services. In socialistic society the government determines who produces what and how much—this simply doesn’t work. In a socialistic society there is no incentive to work or produce. Ultimately all socialistic systems have failed. There are a few in Europe that are still struggling, but their economies are falling behind. Now I would like to ask our friends Cosatu, Malema and others; read this and tell us how this will work in a country where a view of our "liberators" are sitting with their hands so deep in the cookie jar that the cant even get it out. And about the idea of peace - how will this be achieved with Malema dead set on ousting every white person, or black person who will not go with his flow.

  • Tman - 2011-08-07 01:57

    Nationalisation= more corruption..."This is why nationalising our mines will bring money to our people, and not just benefit and profit people in the private sector." Which people is he reffering to ? I assume that he is talking about the likes of the Malema's that want nationalisation soo badly.'Corrupt capitalists' will be running the mines

  • Arkanzo - 2011-08-07 02:07

    Once the mines are nationalised political deployment will begin. Competent blacks and whites will be replaced by incompetent deployees. Consultants at high rates will be hired, effectively increasing labour costs. This is what has happened in the municipalties. When Eskom messes up, it simply increases the price of electricity. Municipalties rely on intergovermental grants. Can the nationalised mines do the same? NO. Resource prices are market linked. If production costs are too high, the mine will not survive. Cosatu members will also not survive. Either dead from reduced safety standards or out of work.

  • ian - 2011-08-07 02:24

    hey ju ju look, you have competition, cosatu is as thick as you, 'bring sa out of a corrupt capitalist economy' omg vavi you are as thick as a trillion planks, its you bastards with the fancy cars and mansions paid for with tax payers money so stop talking crap, your anc and your ancyl are so obsessed with money that you cant think about anything else so shut up, and btw communsim is dead you fat moron oh learn from cuba, learn what, the country is a freaking shambles, please shut up twat face you know totally f all, the only reason you want nationalisation is so you can get richer while the poor get poorer, what a retarded chop you are, go study woodwork dronkgat

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 02:37

    "This is why nationalising our mines will bring money to our people, and not just benefit and profit people in the private sector." - the government is already taking 28% of the profits of the businesses! Who is paying for the social grants?

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 02:51

    The income of Singaporeans are 14x more than Cubans and they have no resources. They are a capitalist state.

  • jontheb - 2011-08-07 02:52

    Stick to strikes and workers rights, COSATU. The economy is none of your business

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 03:00

    The government should buy 10 mines. See if they can run them successfully for 2 years. Then they can buy 20 mines. See if they can run them successfully for 2 years. Then 30, 40 if they can run those mines successfully. Come back and discuss nationalization. But don't try an idea that hasn't worked anywhere - there not a socialist country whose citizens earn more than $10,000 ( R60,000 ) per year. The socialist model doesn't work! No one has become rich from it!

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-07 04:20

    If nationalization is so great, why hasn't it worked in Zambia?

  • shiela - 2011-08-07 05:12

    Waar is De Klerk Nou ?

  • Cristina - 2011-08-07 06:22

    Idiots the bunch of them!!!!!!!

  • Ya Beauty! - 2011-08-07 06:23

    I think you are better giving the state than BEE which benefits the likes of Malema. I think Cosatu is not telling us the truth, it knows BEE has been most corrupt and now they want to use Nationalisation to punish their comrades. They should just come out and say our comrades our very corrupt and we need a better solution.

  • Mthetwa - 2011-08-07 07:16

    Nationalisation!!! Gwede, It the government officials that are corrupt. Are you daft?

  • allan mendelsohn - 2011-08-07 07:23

    V.I.P or should I say South Africa R.I.P

  • Brieuse - 2011-08-07 07:34

    They've always wanted nationalisation. Problem is the government is incapable of running a hot dog stand.

  • ian - 2011-08-07 07:40

    the only thing that can bring sa out of a greedy corrupt capitalist economy, is the end of the anc, ancyl and the crap unions in this country. YOU VAVI ARE THE GREEDY CORRUPT AND CAPITALIST PIG, YOU AND YOUR JELLY ROLL DRONKGAT PAL MALEMA

  • masenya30 - 2011-08-07 07:41

    welcome COSATU I salute u

  • Dan Grey - 2011-08-07 07:47

    Look guys nationalization will happen. This is Africa. What makes Africa different from the rest of the world is, that Africa does not learn from previous mistakes. Every African country has to learn the same economic lessons all over again. What you need to do in order to ensure that you and your family survives the grand South African nationalization scheme, is to ensure that you have about 1 years supply of non perishable food/water stocked up. This is critical as all industry will come to a complete standstill and their is no other country to run to for food, like the Zimbabweans did, when they came to South Africa in their millions. What I found quite amusing, is that this was predicted by a Boer prophet that lived a 100 years ago.