Cosatu claims success

2012-03-07 22:38

Johannesburg - Wednesday's nationwide protest for the scrapping of e-tolls and labour brokers was a "resounding success", Cosatu has claimed.

"The protest was a brilliant success and it far exceeded our estimates," said Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) spokesperson Patrick Craven.

"It showed the overwhelming support for the demands we were making."

Plans for a secondary strike would now depend on the government's response to memoranda. Cosatu expected a response within seven days.

Craven said protester turnout was impressive, not only in the economic hub of Johannesburg, but also in smaller areas across the country.

Downtown Johannesburg, where the major event took place, had been brought to a standstill, said Craven.

Protesters handed a memorandum to Gauteng Premier Nomvula Mokonyane outside her office.

Her spokesperson Xoli Mngambi said: "The premier is currently studying the contents of the memorandum and a decision will be taken at an appropriate point as to what to do."

The protest resulted in flights being delayed in Durban, shops in central Johannesburg closing, absentee street traders in some city centres, a reduction in rail services in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal, and the temporary suspension of train services on the Leralla line, on the East Rand.

The service was suspended after "worrying" reports of assault and intimidation in the Leralla corridor and Kaalfontein areas, Metrorail said.

Protests took place in 32 areas across the country. There were no reports of serious injuries or deaths, but riot police kept watch over the swelling crowds.

National police spokesperson Colonel Vish Naidoo said there had been no reports of violence, and protests throughout the country had been peaceful. There had, however, been some claims of intimidation, but these were not officially reported.

Forgotten their roots

Earlier, marshals battled to contain a Johannesburg crowd, which stretched six blocks, when embattled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema arrived.

Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said at the protest in Johannesburg that some government leaders had forgotten their roots.

"Today we are here to remind some fellows where they are coming from. They don't know anymore the power of the working class," he said.

Crowds in several city centres wore bright red and yellow attire, sang, danced, and waved placards bearing messages against labour brokers and electronic tolling on Gauteng's highways.

In Polokwane, Limpopo, a downpour resulted in some protesters seeking shelter under shop awnings. Others were not deterred by the chill and drizzle and continued chanting and blowing their vuvuzelas.

Cosatu supporters refused to be addressed by a Limpopo ANC representative, calling him a friend of Malema.

Bloemfontein's march was without incident and protesters were told roads should be the government's responsibility.

In Cape Town, the strike got underway at 11:00 with protesters stretched across two blocks in blistering heat.

People took shelter under trees, while others sang and danced in the street, carrying knobkerries.

The marchers reached Parliament before noon. Protesters took off their hats to sing the national anthem while raising their fists and flying the Cosatu flag.

Back to normal

In Durban, the strike started an hour after the scheduled time. A line of riot police preceded the march, along with a water cannon and a police Nyala vehicle. At various intersections along the route marchers sat for a few moments before getting back up.

Health departments across the country remained unaffected by the strike.

"Things are running as usual and we have not heard any complaints," national health department spokesperson Fidel Hadebe said.

Eskom spokesperson Hilary Joffe said the electricity utility had received no reports of being affected by the strike, but would receive a full update later.

Mixed reports came from schools. Some were affected by the protest and others were not.

Mining company Gold Fields said about 85% of its workforce did not arrive for work on Wednesday. However, most workers at Impala Platinum showed up, following their protracted strike at the company's mine near Rustenburg.

The SABC reported that traffic at South Africa's border with Zimbabwe was building up as customs and other border officials joined the Cosatu protest in Musina.

By 16:00, protesters in some parts of the country had begun dispersing.

The tolling of some Gauteng roads is expected to start on April 30.

  • seanpresherhughes_1 - 2012-03-08 01:23

    I totally understand the frustration that everyone has especially the poor and poorest of the poor, but I am being devils advocate here by saying, the roads that were improved in making travel on them with so many more lanes etc to ease congestion was way overdue, somehow these improvements have to be paid for - it is just a reality as much as I hate it myself that we now have pocket it ourselves and not budgeted for and paid for out of our taxpeyer's funds. Already a subsidy was announced including a cap of what I can remember is about R550 per month and that further discounts are available if one registers and is a regular traveller. It would be great to have to pay absolutely nothing, but I think that reality is reality. With the very upmarket Gautrsin now fully up and running, at least there is once and for all a state of the art reliable form of transport to and from major spots running between Hatfield and JHB and most importantly, the OR Tambo Airport, so much more convenient. If one read the latest news one would have noticed that Metro Rail is in for a whole new renovation with orders already been placed for brand new state of the Bart coaches etc. I think one must stop being one-track minded and give this country that fell so far behind due to the past, we just have to be patient and after a few years we will begin to start Harrington into line with a whole lot better public transport which one can use and even avoid the toll roads if required. Think positive

      Boer - 2012-03-08 01:54

      You ARE already paying for it through the fuel levy.

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-08 03:54

      Exactly Boer, this has been my argument all the time. Why do you want us to pay double.

      Boer - 2012-03-08 04:41

      So that they can steal more?

      brionyl.french - 2012-03-08 05:24

      Technically we have paid for this highway already.... No to Tolls, and i hope Cosatu goes onto the highways and tears them down!!! Gosh I would, They already have made how much on these Tolls??? last i heard over R15million and only 200 thousand people have these tags... What about food prices? what about anything else that comes via these highways... And the back roads? Will they maintain them? I have seen very little work on them.... SAY NO TO ETOLLING AND ENRICHING THE ANC GOVERNMENT!!! LETS ENRICH OURSELVES AS WE ARE WORKING FOR OUR MONEY NOT FOR MONEY FOR THE ANC!!!!

      Hunter - 2012-03-08 06:12

      The country fell behind due to the present, not the past, Sean.

      pws69 - 2012-03-08 06:31

      We pay over R2,70 per litre in TAXES alone. Tolls then become a double tax. The moment I get onto the highway, I am fulfilling the "user pays" mantra, unless of course you believe I have invented perpetual motion and travel up hills with my engine off. Now, onto your 2nd, and so very obviously ignorant point, about falling behind. We fell bhind because the ANC did not maintain, and did not invest in, infrastructure. Let me educate you. It costs up to EIGHTEEN times more to repair a road than to maintain it. How's that for a waste of our hard earned money, sunshine? Ditto for almost any infrastructure. Now, before you accuse me of being (in no particular order) anti ANC/black/majority/rule racist yaddayaddayadda:- The ANC have ADMITTED that they did not invest in maintenance or infrastructure and that bucket loads of money has been wasted. It took them until Feb 2012 to come to this realisation though. NO TO ILLEGAL TOLLS.

      Naledi Mabindla - 2012-03-08 06:52

      Apartheid government left country bankrupt please remember that,we had ask world bank imf to fund us to pay some of our debt first!yes I do agree to some extent that they also fell behind. tolls going to affect most people and personally 550 extra is a lot especially when its not an added bonus on ur salary. What the government forgets is that we are not europe so u cannot introduce european tolling laws here. Europe has an efficient public transport system unlike us who are stuck with dilapidated taxis. Metro buses on strike and gau buses also striking. And one last point someone from the westrand still has to pay toll fees to get to the damn gautrain

      Barry - 2012-03-08 07:36

      The reality is the upgrade is almost 20 years overdue and funding for this should have been allocated during this time. Question is where has road funds disappeared too, even the potholes do not get fixed properly.

      Barry - 2012-03-08 07:44

      @Naledi the country was finacially stable in 1994. The Auditer General recently determined that 25 BILLION Rands cannot be accounted for from one year. I guarentee there are foreign bank account of Ministers overseas.

      Bluemast - 2012-03-08 07:55

      How many of you joined the strike?????? You all rely on other people to think for you!!! How shameful indeed!

      Clive - 2012-03-08 07:58

      @Naledi your ANC made the government bankrupt stole from them look at all the tender thefts going on look how many ANC member on trial for corruption. I have seen back roads being demolished to be recreated, but the tenders awarded to there friends and they stole the money i have seen this happen many times so don't come with you're nonsense that apartheid stole the money the prove is in the pudding

      Willem - 2012-03-08 08:24

      What do you think the fuel levy is for? Do you really want to pay twice for the same thing? I think you are smoking your socks!!

      Leonie - 2012-03-08 11:20

      oh pleeezzzzeeeee sean....the road were made wider yes.....we as safricans are paying taxis for all this.....why did they had to borrow money overseas to put up tollgates....please your argument is senseless...most people cant afford 550.xtra....youare most properly working for the goverment

      lister.seepe - 2012-03-08 18:57

      seapressumthing, u r one of those that listens a lot and agree with one fact from one party and not scrutinising first. luk man the goverment has got a lot of money to waste in some unfinished projects that benefit their reletaives and friends and after doing so they think of milking the working class that contribute heavily in our economy

  • Ian - 2012-03-08 02:29

    success huh, ya right, yesterday in 3 branches of pick and pay all i heard was eish theres no bread, nice one cosatu, you go home in your mercs and 4x4's while your members go home hungry, shot, nice one

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-08 03:57

      @Ian - this is a tired argument. Whether on strike or not anyway people go home hungry everyday, so you rather join the strike to improve the situation.

      Ian - 2012-03-08 05:23

      i tell you what is tired, is you lot striking and complaining blah blah and what do you do, you fold again and vote anc, you are set in your ways, end of story

      Thando - 2012-03-08 07:48

      Sacrifices have to be made to get the message to the government that we will not accept tolling. But Ian , what is more "tired" than anything else are your rubbish comments on this site

      Marion - 2012-03-08 08:12

      @Ian - don't know what you mean by 'you lot striking'. I am not a COSATU member and I, and all the people I speak to on a regular basis, fully agree with this strike action if it is the only way to get the government not to implement the tolls. The fact that the government is going to allow legislation to be changed to allow SANRL to put garnishee orders on peoples salaries is a major concern to me. What happens if someone with a false number plate incurs debt under your license number and a granishee gets put on your salary? Believe me, many more will go home without bread if those tolls are introduced. COSATU has proposed that money for roads be recouped by increasing the taxes of companies / uber rich. We all know that those people are unlikely to pay toll fees because companies will pay them for their employees who have company cars. Do you think that is right? Oh, by the way, my husband bought two loaves of bread at PnP after 17h00 yesterday.

  • Tumelo - 2012-03-08 04:24

    To all armchair critics, you need to be reminded that some of you or your fore fathers pronounced that the people would never achieve democracy with stones and toy toying. Where are we now? They're at it again saying a Cosatu march is an inconvenience that would bare no fruits. Watch this space! Im off to bed after a long day toy toying.

      Boer - 2012-03-08 04:40

      I agree 100%. If it was not for the armchair critics that stayed at work to perform their duties you would have had only democracy, nothing else to destroy.

  • Peter - 2012-03-08 04:52

    Cosatu is stuffing up the country even further. If they are so-called in bed with the ANC, how come they dont sit around a table and talk ? I believe this was just an ego trip for Mr Vavi to get him in the limelight as he has done nothing to ensure jobs for the unemployed beside uttering clap statements from time to tim.After all, he must ensure that his employed membership gets value for their membership fee/even if it is only a red t-shirt. Mr, Vavi,,,,how many of those protesters actually owns cars and will pay toll fees to get to work and back as taxis and busses are exempt /The labour laws should be relaxed to make it easier for the people to be employed and fired. After is the businesses that employs and pays the people...NOT is the businesses that puts up working capital.....NOT is the businesses that takes their chance in an uncertain market and might even see their backsides and loose everything...NOT COSATU. Come on Cosatu and Mr Vavi, grow up and talk to the people in Government and the ANC....dont throw tantrums.PS...must cost Cosatu a fortune in dishing out red t-shirts all the time/hopefully they are made in South Africa/

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-08 06:21

      Peter 1) Cosatu did engage the ANC on issues underlying the strike. The strike and institution of e-toll in April is evidence of disagreement from table politics. 2) Public transport user will severely be affected by e-tolling though public transport is exempted from paying e-tolls. Goods and services prices will rise dramatically, do you think public transport users are protected from this? 3) Labour Laws are there to protect/represent the interest of both parties, employer and worker. Relaxing them to benefit/suit one party by abusing rights of the other party is unconstitutional. You should be ashamed even to suggest this BS. 4) Human Capital is the most valued asset in workplace. You are misinformed if you only think in terms of employer being the party making business a success, without workers there would be no business! Peter we cannot teach you the basics here, so next time refrain from participating in discussions you are clueless about.

      Peter - 2012-03-08 06:43

      Pharaoh Malope : I have an opinion and thats it. You have an opinion and thats it. It is both our democratic rights to raise it.Clueless...that is your opinion. Even Cosatu and the ANC differs on these arguments..which one do you think is clueless ? Subject close.

      Leon - 2012-03-08 07:46

      @pharaoh and Peter. The right to hire and dismiss is the cornerstone of the US economy. think Ronald Reagon who, when asked why the US was so successfull, replied by saying two words : "your fired!". the problem is its risky to do in a developing economy with 24% unemployment. Pharaoh. im all for rights and equality, but dont forget the employer takes the risk with his money, time and reputation. i certainly dont make demands from my employer, i dont believe its right. if i am not happy to work for him i go somewhere else and he should have the same right. if he is not happy to work with me he should be able to go somewhere else.

      Fidel - 2012-03-08 07:56

      COSATU is defending rights that had been won in long and hard struggles and are now under severe attack. Labour Brokerage is the undoing all of the social and economic gains won through popular struggles and resistance. Labour brokers don't create employment but facilitate placement.

      don.odendaal - 2012-03-08 09:06

      And its the businesses who will have to pay toll fees and its the businesses that will have to increase transport costs and its the businesses who will have to up prices to the consumer. And its the consumer who will take home 1 loaf of bread instead of 2 And its the businesses that will close because of tolls that will loose jobs for the working classes please think about that peter I am a white business owner who although I was unable to join cosatu (because of the anti labour broker strike) I was definitely in full support on the e toll

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-08 09:41

      Leon i do not dispute the fact that the employer play a huge role for business success but you must not undermine huge role play by worker as well. What is not desired is relaxation of Labour Laws to compromise workers rights earned through the struggle. These Labour Laws do not promote selfish demands instead they protect the balance of interest between the two parties. Relax Labour Laws, employer unfairly treat you, you have compromised laws to protect you, you leave employer with hope your future employer will not do the same, you get whipped again...Is that your best solution, try n err?

      John - 2012-03-08 11:49

      so Peter maybe its time for "White Business " to stage a one day stay away. this will show soladarity against toll roads etc , whites dont need to march they can just have a peacefull stay at home and watch cricket .

  • Silvana - 2012-03-08 06:17

    In my opinion, it is a bit premature to say that the protest was a "resounding success". The outcome of the protest will determine that.

  • Kevin - 2012-03-08 06:34

    Success will be when no one gets an e tag. Success will be when the toll towers are dismantled.

      Marion - 2012-03-08 08:16

      @Kevin - approximately 200 000 have already succumbed to pressure of buying eTags. If garnishee orders are issued against salaries it is going to become a major problem in SA. This strike will be nothing compared to what will happen then.

  • pws69 - 2012-03-08 06:37

    My office was in the centre of the strike in Braamfontein. So, my comments on the actual strike: 1. Orderly and disciplined. 2. There was definite anger, people are gatvol, but no unnecessary aggression. 3. Within two hours of the strike, all discarded posters etc were cleaned up. I disagree that labour broking and etolling were linked, as you actually do not know which has the higher support.

  • Morne - 2012-03-08 07:04

    Successful!? And the e - toll gates and labour brokers still exsists! Cosatu i dont think you understand what successful means!

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-08 07:31

      Chief I don't think you understand how strikes work. Organizers of a strike set objections and such are not limited to instant outcome of issue/s raised in demands. The strike was a success in terms of support (turnout), being peaceful, memorandum hand over to mention a few. Stop exposing yourself here!

      Marion - 2012-03-08 08:18

      @ISO - Why don't you wave your magic wand and get things to change overnight?

      Alan - 2012-03-08 09:44

      well - I agree with Cosatu on the issue of Tolls, even though they dont affect me personally in an immediate direct way. Everybody in the country will ultimately be affected by the tolls and increased prices. My point is that roads are National, and it is unfair that only certain sectors of the public pay for them. The Industry around JHB services the rest of the country. Why must those businesses alone be compelled to pay for the roads??? Got to say - I lately have a new found respect for Cosatu on some issues! Cosatu is one organization that can effectively stand up to the ANC.

      lister.seepe - 2012-03-08 18:49

      ISO mayb u r the one who doesnt understand what cosatu means by success. i think u need some to first understand what a march is and what impact it has on our economy and bla bla bla.

  • martha.stclair - 2012-03-08 07:23

    You want change and your voices to be heard, use your democratic right and VOTE for change. Until our current government actually fears loosing power, it will carry on doing exactly as it wants. We all have more power than we think, all it takes is a tick in a different box, there are so many other parties who could make a real difference to this country!

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-08 07:43

      Name one...

      Marion - 2012-03-08 08:19

      Certainly not KISS...

  • Mike - 2012-03-08 07:59

    the strike was a success, the result of the strike will remain to be seen, my opinion about this is we need to stand together, black and white, this affects us all the same way, lets show government that we are united in our stand against it and the general cost of living due to their complete lack of management, maintanance, intelligence and all the corruption. Maybe next elections the majority night reconsider who they vote for, cause so far all the 'promises' have resulted in huge inflation.

      lister.seepe - 2012-03-08 18:45

      mike u nfortunatly all the parties willl never implement all our demends and listen to all our complaints. changing our votes wont help anyway

  • Hannes - 2012-03-08 08:14

    Sean, unfortunatelymost South Africans prefer to complain rather than make a positive contribution finding solutions. They would rather drive through potholes while they are complaining than contribute positively. Complaining and being anti everything is unfortunately not going to solve anything. We have to deal with the realities of the day, corruption, inefficiency, etc. The fuel levy is not even closely enough to cover some road maintenance, let alone funding such a huge highway project. To all those prophets of doom that will now attack and accuse me of being a friend/paid by of SANRAL. etc. etc. I am not,just a positive, different thinking South African focussing on solutions rather than problems.

      Mike - 2012-03-08 08:23

      As much as i would like to agree the problem is most of us cant afford it, im already forking R2500 a month in petrol, i cant still pay tolls on top of it, i live on a limited budget and that R550 is going to make a big difference, i agree with some of the comments futher up though, this should have been planned years ago, i pay tax and fuel tax so that govenment can maintain roads and infrastructure. Instead of spending millions on changing names and parties why not focus on more important things first? Its simple logic, priorities should come first

      lister.seepe - 2012-03-08 18:43

      hannes, by complaining and thus toyi toying is part of the solution becasuse we believe that we put the goverment in power to engage with us and not just that but consider our ideas on such issues of importance however they dont wana listen hence we on ramapage. what u r missing is that some of us attended the public hearing and gave our inputs but none of them have been considered. so your claim thta we are just complaining without solutions is thus ill-founded

  • Bluemast - 2012-03-08 08:26

    By: Irma Venter 14th February 2012 City Company Continent Country Cape Town Johannesburg Khayelitsha Pretoria Gautrain Prasa Group Africa South Afric. Facility Industry Term Natural Feature Organisation Gautrain Station Infrastructure Transport Travel Time Eastern Cape Gautrain Person Province Or State Technology Gautrain Lucky Montana Piet Sebola Eastern Cape Closed Circuit Televisin The aim of the more luxurious rail coaches was to ensure that Prasa could expand its market coverage beyond that of lower-income groups, offering “safe and comfortable” public transport to all South Africans, said Sebola.The rolling stock programme, which also included new depots, would then also add to already existing projects, such as the current roll-out of a new signalling system and the improvement of station infrastructure. “We want to transform and modernise our railways,” said Sebola. Part of this transformation was to cut travel time for commuters. A Metrorail train trip between Johannesburg and Pretoria currently took up to two hours, said Sebola. With new rolling stock this could be cut to one hour. If these people are so poor how can they afford to have a car in the first place? I understand their frustratiin, but as yiu can read the above quoted peach by Se bola, there is light at the end of he tunnel with loads of upgrades including safety and faster travelling time which could make a huge difference for all passengers who currently get up as early as 3am to get to work!

  • ReunionofIntelligentMinds - 2012-03-08 08:46

    I totally agree with Cosatu's strike on this one. I hoped for a united strike which included other unions and political parties because the majority of South Africans felt the same but where not represented.

  • nspaynter - 2012-03-08 08:55

    Mr. President, You and the ANC fought for democracy for all in our country which means we all have the right to vote on the issues that affect all of us. Why is it that the ANC insist on the policy of tolling of roads and labour brokering even though there are resounding objections. You are steam rolling over the will of the people who voted you into power. And this has resulted in serious strike action which has done nothing but shake our already fragile economy. The DA are totally against the tolling of roads and want to bring in legislation that will strictly control labour brokering so that all parties benefit from fairly and justly from it. I have been asking people to rather move their vote from the ANC to the DA. The strike action has cost the country billions. I wonder how many roads we could have built with that money.

      lister.seepe - 2012-03-08 18:38

      where was DA during the time of apartheid?as much as we hate the decisions of our goverment that we put in power....we love our ANC 4 quite a number of issues and breakthrough it has made thus far that the then apartheid goverment which i believe is succeded by DA failed

  • Justin - 2012-03-08 09:09

    I agree with the strike - the anti e- toll and labour brokers but i find it absolutely ridiculous that so many people can gather and show solidarity for an idea yet not ONE of them is prepared to change their ANC vote, which is the root of the evil in this case.

  • Bongani - 2012-03-08 09:10

    Does it mean that when you drive a private car you are not poor. The Crap. No tolling in SA.

      nspaynter - 2012-03-08 09:22

      Bongani, I don't have a car any more. I can't afford it......

      Mike - 2012-03-08 09:29

      EXACTLY!! yes i own a car, not a new one, about 11 years old, but fact is im by no means rich and cant afford more expenses, the price of petrol is gauranteed to go up again soon and add e toll to that its just not acceptable.

      nspaynter - 2012-03-08 09:35

      Road construction and maintenance was paid for out of the tax on the petrol price. And it worked well. There was a report the other day maintaining that a third of the toll costs go into the running of the toll system! We are already paying tax on the petrol price and have a system in place. it's a simple matter of transferring the funding into the correct account. My problem is we are still paying heavy taxes on the petrol price. Where is that money going to? The only plus side of tolling is that it provides jobs for those working in the system.

  • Nkgorupo - 2012-03-08 09:39

    It's 5yrs since Cosatu called for banning of labour brokers. Why didn't they had strikes over all this 5yrs? During elections, political illitrates are told to vote for party that understands the poor (read political illitrates). Then why does the party put policies to starve the poor? The much was unnecessary and costly to workers, Cosatu knows where to engage the government, other that marching.

  • Kusleg - 2012-03-08 09:52

    How can l get a job with E-Toll so that l can enjoy exemption as a fringe benefit......Cosatu....lets organize the final march whereby we bring all the tools with us and dismantle those gantries ..!

  • Eric - 2012-03-08 10:25

    Typical manipulative Cosatu double-speak. "It showed the overwhelming support for the demands we were making" says the comrade. Well, actually, no it doesn't. By conflating a populist issue (tolls)which everybody understands with an obscure issue like labour broking which most people have never heard about, COSATU are trying to create the illusion that BOTH demands have 'overwhelming support'. Unions don't like brokers because it frees workers - especially the unemployed - to take work when and when they can find it. It reduces the power of unions and reduces their income. Anyway, how do street marches of 100,000, or whatever, constitute 'overwhelming support' in a population of 46, or so, million people. Let Cosatu leave the alliance and stand on its own in an election and we will see how much 'overwhelming support' they receive.

  • nspaynter - 2012-03-08 10:38

    Question: I see all the red t-shirts. Were they made in South Africa by South African workers giving them much needed jobs? If not your claims on labour brokering becomes completely meaningless.

  • Dennis - 2012-03-08 12:04

    The ANC are imposters. Since coming to power that have claimed to be saviour of the poor but have appointed useless non-qualified cadres to fill all government posts and hiked their salaries to obscene levels. They tolerate corruption by many expecially corrupt ANC officials. When they spent 60 billion on a stupid arms deal they wasted money that could have spent on roads making tolls completely unneccsary. Now they want to double tax us with tolls plus rediculous fuel levy. The apartheid govenment were thieves but at least they maintained infrastructure but this govenment has taken theft to new level and poverty levels have risen exponentially as has both governmeny and municipal incompetance. Please South Africans vote these blood suckers out of power. Dennis Theron which bankruts the country

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-08 12:57

      I like it when you say 'Please South Africans...' Lobbying voters to boot out the ANC. Well I'm afraid in absence of an alternative principled organization with clear agenda and policy, ready to serve the majority will continue voting ANC. Given current state I personally prefer engaging the ANC critically on challenges they fail to address and revolutionary on challenges they refuse to address. I will not give my vote to whiners and bench critics.

      nspaynter - 2012-03-08 13:12

      Pharaoh, I would describe COSATU as whiners and bench critics in their attitudes against the ANC policy on tolling and labour brokering.......

      Pharaoh - 2012-03-08 13:58

      Hence I am not voting Cosatu but ANC to be in power till we get a better solution

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