Cosatu to join ANCYL marches

2011-10-11 21:38

Johannesburg - Cosatu will join ANC Youth League marches for economic freedom of the working class and poor, spokesperson Patrick Craven said on Tuesday.

"The Congress of SA Trade Unions [Cosatu] supports the social issues this march is about," he said.

"There would obviously be debate about how these things should be implemented, but we support the principle."

He said it was not immediately known how many people would participate.

On Tuesday, the African National Congress Youth League welcomed Cosatu's support.

"Cosatu proves to the people of South Africa once again that the federation is a reliable ally in the struggles of the working class and the poor," spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said.

"[It] will never compromise principle because of petty politics."

Shivambu called on other organisations to follow suit.

The Economic Freedom Youth Mass Action would be held on October 27 and 28 at Beyers Naude Square in central Johannesburg, the Chamber of Mines in Hollard street, the Johannesburg Stock Exchange in Sandton and at the Union Buildings in Pretoria, where a night vigil was planned.

The ANCYL is marching for the nationalisation of mines, the expropriation of land without compensation, the banning of labour brokers, free education, decent housing, electricity for all formal and informal settlements and clean drinking water and sanitation.

  • Jonny Doe - 2011-10-11 21:47

    I hope the ANCYL gets what they want, because if they do, they will lose EVERYTHING in the long run. They have no concept of how a country or an economy works. They are uneducated racists with personal enrichment agendas. Julius is a thief and a hoodlum. I dont see the afrikaners being nice and handing over their lands and companies freely. Julius you better be ready because when the whites bite back, they'll bite hard

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-10-11 21:49

      How about you deregulate labour COSATU and sign up the youth wage subsidy - my small business wants to hire more people - university graduates and skilled labourers.

      Murdoc - 2011-10-11 21:50


      Enough! - 2011-10-11 22:17

      R16 million house being build. Exspensive cars and parties. Many black diamonds spending millions. What about the poor? Malema living it up while millions suffer? He nothing but only looking after his own pocket just like Zuma.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-11 22:19

      - Whoops - there goes some more foreign investors. And all the while the Anc stands by idly ,watching these little thugs destroying the country. It is clear the Anc have chosen to follow the road to Zimbabwedom.

      Muffdiver - 2011-10-11 22:27

      The leadership vacuum from Zuma is clear to Ancyl, Cosatu and Communist party....honour amoungst thieves....they will use each other to gain power.

      Mantsho - 2011-10-11 23:13

      l cannot wait for this to happen, to see ANC sruggle with economy and service delivery, because of this idiots.My Mother said to me, she does not have a doubt that one day we are going to be like those African countries who fight and suffer everyday

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-12 07:04

      I really don't see, if you want to have a march like this, why the query of a R100m+ youth party doesn't come up - How many houses is that?

      PB - 2011-10-12 08:25

      sganja, of course you are joining the marches. No one would expect you to miss out on a couple of days worth of singing, dancing, looting, arson, stone throwing etc. Work, you? Never!

      York Hunt - 2011-10-12 08:29

      Who the F#ck is going to pay for free water, sanitation, electricity etc etc? The middle class. Ah, Marx would be so proud!

      O'forth - 2011-10-12 08:51

      @Sganja: Patric Craven is not WHITE! He is an internasionalist. They have no colour, allegiance, emotion or compasion. They are no different from the globalized corporations. He cares about PATRIC CRAVEN and his job in the SACP. Why else would he sell you out like that?

      Jonathan Farrell - 2011-10-12 09:00

      What exactly does Cosatu/ANCYL do all day? What is their mission? Because to me they just seem to create chaos and undermine the people who follow them

      O'forth - 2011-10-12 09:43

      @Johanathan:Well johanathan, good question. Basically it is a personality thing. These personality types are around in all spheres of life. If they were the boss they would undermine you, asking for all sorts of favours outside of work related criteria. If they were a fellow worker they would always have a pain or ache that require you to do double while they laze around, and if they were your wife they would blame you for everything and use it as an excuse to go hang out with the girls all night long. In short it is an exploitive, selfish personality type. Amongst each other they pat each other on the back while back stabbing at the same time to “position” themselves. The only common denominator they have are that “men are bad” in the case of girls and “capitalists are bad” in the case of communists. Not much more to it really apart from the obvious heart ache and wasted energy.

      Together - 2011-10-12 11:01

      Then march when the implementation has been clarified so you know you aren't being associated with another hare-brained nationalise-the-world scheme. Of course, being Cosatu, your members must all be at work, right - they are workers, right? So, don't endanger their jobs by having them march before you know whether the implementation is in line with the Constitution and really helps the poor, rather than the youth league.

      darkwing - 2011-10-12 20:23

      Jonathan Farrell, they are often seen at Rahpsody's in Menlyn, especially when exams at Unisa needs to be written.

      Merven - 2011-10-20 07:25

      When Steve Hoffmeyer said that they've got a entitlement mindset everybody crucified him, guess he was right.

  • brandnew - 2011-10-11 21:51

    So this is civil war - one sector of society fighting against another - either the ANC underclasses against the ANC leadership or blacks demanding of whites. Let them eat cake.

      Yoni - 2011-10-11 22:35

      When I look at the racial makeup of shopping mall customers and who's crowding the hallways in Woolies' food section I cannot fathom what economic freedom is still strived for.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-11 22:48

      Two months ago Vavi shouted "DOWN WITH THE YOUTH LEAGUE"!!!!!!!! Now they MARCHING TOGETHER... Me thinks "THE AR5E DOTH NOT KNOW WHAT THE ELBOW IS UP TO" Neither will they ever, and NEVER A TWAIN SHALL THEY MEET!!!!! COASTU has been the BIGGEST LOSER since Malema has been calling for Nationalisation.... their "MEMBERSHIP" numbers have DWINDLED!!!! One of the reasons they want to scrap the Labour Broker practice, is to try to gain membership..... WILL NEVER WORK... because their "TRI-PARTHEID ALLIANCE CRONIES", The Govt... are the BIGGEST USERS OF LABOUR BROKERS!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!

      Together - 2011-10-12 11:03

      Okay Cosatu, Then march when the implementation has been clarified so you know you aren't being associated with another hare-brained nationalise-the-world scheme. Of course, being Cosatu, your members must all be at work, right - they are workers, right? So, don't endanger their jobs by having them march before you know whether the implementation is in line with the Constitution and really helps the poor, rather than the youth league.

  • Lento-1 - 2011-10-11 21:57

    These self appointed saviours of the poor are nothing but a bunch of ruthless kleptomaniacs. Free this free that is a very highly contageous verbal diarrhoea being unleashed to the 'poor masses' in the name of economic revolution...what a fluke.

      PB - 2011-10-12 08:17

      Oh yeah, another excuse to sing and dance for a couple of days, with the main aim to catch the attention of a photographer. Wonder if 'the mysterious third force' is again going to be blamed for all the looting, arson, damage etc. that is 100% going to take place.

      Druce - 2011-10-12 08:21

      What they dont understand is that you gannot give (free) without taking (stealing) from someone else - WELCOME TO THE BANANA REPUBLIC, WATCH THESE BAFOONS CRY BOGOM BOGOM!

  • genisus - 2011-10-11 22:00

    I wish these idiots would enlighten us all as to what "economic freedom" is?? Will they never understand Pareto's 80/20 principle or the fact that 95% of the global wealth lies in the hands of about 2% of the worlds population??? This is now really getting ridiculous and the sooner they catch a frikkin wake up the better... WORK FOR YOUR DAM MONEY AND STOP STRIKING AND MARCHING!!!

      PilgrimX - 2011-10-11 22:26

      Now only two groups in SA; 5% taxpayers and 95% maaifoedies. I was wondering, why were condoms the first free item after 94?

      zaatheist - 2011-10-12 08:51

      Economic freedom means " I get the over-inflated tender, give 10% to the guy who awarded it to me, pocket half the balance and get a White run company to do the actual work while I sit under a tree drinking beer.

      O'forth - 2011-10-12 09:06

      Did that 2% "work hard" to control the 95% of resources? Or did they cheat, corrupt and manipulate hard to screw 98% of people out of the 95% of wealth? Somehow this idea of "only work hard" sounds a bit like a cop out, a donkey with blinkers on. I like working hard, but I sure do not see the reason why I must "respect" those who hoard, thieve and cheat their why through life calling it a "free market".

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-10-11 22:01

    don't they have anything else to do? Maybe -- work?

  • Zennie - 2011-10-11 22:11

    Cosatu to be taken over by ANCYL (or controlled) one of these days.This is just the beginning of partnership.

  • handbanana - 2011-10-11 22:13

    If you really want to change the country for the better just leave a few SAB trucks full of beer laced with cyanide on the way to the Union buildings on October 28.

  • Pickle - 2011-10-11 22:17


  • PilgrimX - 2011-10-11 22:19

    "economic freedom" What on earth does this mean in their minds? I pay taxes through my nose to get all stated in the last paragraph, just so they can get it for free. "Free this and free that, or else we grab... and destroy."

      Shivaskar - 2011-10-11 22:30

      If they wish for free 'this and that', ask Santa Claus, because Christmas is just around the corner. Oh yah, they won't accept it then to because he's not BEE/AA. We can strike to you know, 'We want to be FREE from this bullsh1t!'

      Vrijheid - 2011-10-12 08:39

      It is more a case of the years of propaganda war where they now believe they deserve everything for free. Somehow they think we received everything for free.

  • Phaedioux - 2011-10-11 22:24

    Essentially this all all that Cosatu and ANCYL are good at: Marching, marauding, breaking windows, looting shops and roadside hawkers, intimidationg and/or assaulting bystanders, tipping over dustbins and disrupting traffic! This activity requires absolutely no intelligence whatsoever - all it needs is to learn 'Shaka Zulu 101'...... Is this really what the unemployed youth of SA need?

      Phaedioux - 2011-10-11 22:27

      all all = all intimidationg = intimidating

      phillie - 2011-10-11 22:37

      And make no mistake, that is exactly what is going to happen on those two days and perhaps extension!! marauding, breaking, looting and assaulting whites in the bile fed to them about "economic freedom " This has all the making of the night of the long knives.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-12 08:35

      How to SCREW UP A COUNTRY............... ROYALLY? Give it to a bunch of Cadre's.... will NEVER EVER be the same again.... nor will it EVER be RESCUED EITHER!!!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-10-11 23:11

    Cosatu is hiding behind its own ineptitude. Year after year they struggle and strike for a few measly percentage points increase on a miserable wage of their "working class" members. In the process they cause serious harm to the economy with their destructive marches. This while their own executives, as well as that of their friends in government positions, take huge salary increases for themselves. Cosatu knows the ratio of top paid : bottom paid in governmental positions at all levels; of positions within its own organisation, as well as in semi-government organisations and private companies with ANC appointees in executive and managerial positions. These ratio's are obscene. Cosatu says nothing about this. Does nothing about this. Hides this.Does not care about the plight of the workers. Cosatu also knows that value added industries need to be established around the natural resources of our country. They are content, however, to see our government sell off our raw materials to other countries and in the process enrich only a few of their cronies. They are also content to sit back while parasites like Malema and other corruptees scoop off huge chunks for themselves at the cost of the poor people in our country. Economic freedom? Freedom to rape and pillage?

      Together - 2011-10-12 11:08

      I agree with you, maseratifitt. My reply to Cosatu is: Then march when the implementation has been clarified so you know you aren't being associated with another hare-brained nationalise-the-world scheme. Of course, being Cosatu, your members must all be at work, right - they are workers, right? So, don't endanger their jobs by having them march before you know whether the implementation is in line with the Constitution and really helps the poor, rather than the youth league. (this is what is known as irony - everyone knows that cosatu doesn't care about workers at all - if they did, they would be fighting Chinese investment as loudly as they fight WalMart. If jobs mean workers, then Cosatu don't care about workers - they have helped to shed more jobs than anyone. Unions officials should all be from the shopfloor - no outside 'career' officials who can rent out union members to 'causes' that damage jobs).

  • mathanda - 2011-10-11 23:31

    The chickens have come to roost!as the saying goes 'you can fool some people some time but u can not fool all the people all the time'.It was only a matter of time before the masses realised that they were being taken for a ride.ALUTA!

      Freethinker - 2011-10-12 00:38

      Yes, but sadly the whole motivation behind the "mass revolt" is just to give a new group the chance to be chief looters and pillagers, not to stop the wholesale thievery...

  • chris.khanye - 2011-10-11 23:42

    This's the after shocks of post Polokwane Zunami sweeping Cosatu/ANCYL. And in their dazed state - are now marching against themselves. The reality is - more jobs are going to be lost in SA because of prevailing external and internal economic and political factors. Our labour is overrated and highly militarized. Like a weapon of terror - the ANCYL without fail threaten external/internal investment with their callous utterances. Infact Cosatu and ANCYL acknowledge that SA labour is overrated and thus their colourful t-shirts are mostly printed in China. And now they want their comrades who incapacitated public health, education, local government and most provincial governments to manage mines and banks. Of what benefit is the NYDA to the country's youth? This so-called youth development agency (another state organ) is so sick it must be put down to take it out of its very costly misery. But then SA is but mostly a circus with mostly overzelous clowns and some of us are just over anxious spectators stressed every time the clowns hit town!

      maseratifitt - 2011-10-12 06:37

      Exactly, Chris. And what about all those "jobs" the government has created? "Jobs" coupled to huge salaries, but no meaningful output other than to prop up the ANC? The NYDA is just one such example. There cannot be economic freedom without first getting rid of the ANC and Political Parties, where self-interest overrides national interest.

  • michaelp1 - 2011-10-12 03:20

    One message for COSATU - the ONLY way to get this country working is to get to WORK! COSATU supports everything that is mediocre.

      Thandi - 2011-10-12 07:32

      The basis of union action is to perpetuate mediocrity.

  • pitbull - 2011-10-12 06:33

    Both vermin. Should both be destroyed,

  • thabotau - 2011-10-12 06:41

    March, then what?

      308 - 2011-10-12 07:17

      march, burn down every business in the way, litter the streets, loot shops, get shot with rubber bullets, blame the police for brutality. then someone has to clean, repair and replace all stolen goods. this is the ANCYL's way of job creation...

  • 308 - 2011-10-12 07:00

    Make your sirens call, and sing all you want, i will not hear what you have to say! Try and take my land, I dare you!

  • Sammy - 2011-10-12 08:02

    Economic freedom,thats a new one,how many types of freedom do you get!SA has had freedom for 17 years nobody is stopping you from plundering the Land Bank,Development fund ect.Greed is getting the better of you,nobody wants to work but they want money for nothing,somebody has to get the blame so why not blame white people or apartheid again as Ihave yet to see the anc and its cohorts take responsibility for stupid and unattainable policies that has alleviated stagnation and caused retro economic and infrastructure decline.The only thing they are good at is talking and bling.

  • RIMRIM - 2011-10-12 08:19

    ZIMBABWE... 2

  • sganja - 2011-10-12 08:19

    Thanks Cosatu and Yl, unfortunately I won't attend the first day march, but will be at Union building the following day. Viva

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-12 08:58

      There you go people, if you want to kick sganja in the nuts, you'll know where he is!!!!

      sganja - 2011-10-12 09:09

      GuyverXT9 Haha

      thabotau - 2011-10-12 10:49

      GuyverXT9 you complement sganja by saying he has nuts

  • neo_acheron - 2011-10-12 08:35


  • sewsexy - 2011-10-12 08:36

    Hahahahaha - these people are just sooooo funny !!!! Do some work for a change instead of expecting everything for nothing !!!!

  • Tronn - 2011-10-12 08:49

    What is refrshing is to see that the majotity of the people in South Africa have started to realize that the ANCYL and the ANC are promising them the world, but delivering very little. They are like all the other Governments in the world. Promises are made to secure votes and then.....nothing!!!! It is time the people started to march against the government and demand that they either deliver or stand down and make way for people that care.

  • Ncube Revlon - 2011-10-12 10:17

    I wish all the nations in Africa will develop transparent systems which will meet the interests of their citizens

  • Fred - 2011-10-12 10:40

    And once all is nationalised COSATU will have zero members as there will be zero employment.

  • EnglishBoer - 2011-10-12 10:46

    COSATU marching for economic freedom makes as much sense as f@cking for virginity. Maaifoedies.

  • Fred - 2011-10-12 10:55

    Nationalisation of banks will cause a run on the banks, which will shut them down. This will be the end of any commerce in the country. No imports, no exports, no salaries - to name a few commercial funtions which will cease to exist. To start a mine requires finance - normally R100 billion plus. Where will this money come from? No functional banks - no salaries - no taxes. And add nationalised farms - no food.

      EnglishBoer - 2011-10-12 11:16

      Eish...maai-foed-ies fineesh I em so hungrie...

  • TacksGP - 2011-10-13 10:53


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