Cosatu wants truth about Nkandla

2012-11-13 22:37

Johannesburg - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela must reveal the truth about the reported R200 million upgrade to President Jacob Zuma's Nkandla residence, Cosatu said.

Congress of SA Trade Unions spokesperson Patrick Craven said in a statement on Monday that the trade union federation was concerned about the reports.

"[We] note, however, that the public protector is investigating the situation and we hope that the government will collaborate with her to get to the root of the allegations," he said.

"We shall therefore not comment until her report is published."

Craven said Cosatu hoped the public protector and public works would get to the bottom of the matter.

"If the government can produce figures to show that an equal amount of money is being spent elsewhere, there can be no problem if President Zuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa," he said.

Suspended African National Congress Youth League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu criticised the SA Communist Party on Tuesday for its support of Zuma against widespread condemnation of the upgrades.

KwaZulu-Natal secretary Themba Mthembu said development in Nkandla was part of rural development.

Shivambu said the provincial SACP were holding onto the idea of rural development "like drowning men and women clinging on straws".

"This is the communist party, which will mobilise the working class and the poor to go sing and dance in defence of such callous usage of state resources, which can benefit thousands of many people in and outside Nkandla," he said.

"Whilst the foot-soldiers in KwaZulu-Natal misnamed it rural development, the ideological puppet masters in Cosatu House, now based in Pretoria, call it a 'necessary security upgrade' for the president."

He said it was not justifiable to spend so much money on the private residence of anyone, even a sitting president.

"ANC members should save the ANC... because if not, we will soon be deprived of the right to say that Mr Jacob Zuma is direction-less, lacks capacity, lacks morals, lacks integrity, lacks [the] intelligence, wisdom and knowledge to save South Africa." he said.

"[Comedian] George Carlin was correct when he said, 'Never underestimate the power of stupid people, in large numbers'."

  • nel.westhuizen - 2012-11-13 22:45

    Now only?

      lsfreak - 2012-11-13 23:06

      " there can be no problem if President Zuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa," he said." Really now... I don't see the Gov giving me a few pennies to repair my roof let alone a few millions to built a whole village :/

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-11-14 05:32

      What does Pat says, will government spend R200mil on each citizen

      tw2066 - 2012-11-14 06:02

      ag please - COSATU have a residence up Zumas rsol. They crept up there years ago. Now they make out like they are concerned. Please, Nr Craven, shut the f%^* up and go play with your master Vavi.

      heathway.master - 2012-11-14 08:58

      The truth is very clear and obvious for all thinking South Africans to see. No doubt there COSATU.

  • Clerance Lephaka - 2012-11-13 22:52

    Our gov is full of corruption.

      esau.banyane - 2012-11-14 05:00

      evrywhr in of its departments.

  • zamani.myende - 2012-11-13 23:02

    good one floyd!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-14 05:37

      Wow, Floyd quoted George Carlin. I'm impressed.

      tw2066 - 2012-11-14 06:05

      Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason. - José Maria de Eça de Queiroz

      Simthembile Zembe - 2012-11-14 06:42

      @tw2066, i like that. Hahahahaha.

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-11-13 23:02

    ... and our SAn Soapy continues!

  • phaldiemeyer - 2012-11-13 23:09

    cosatu is only useful when causing mayhem and destruction...a lot of hot air....after all that hullabuloo of the etolls, they've settled with the government and are making themselves ready to reap their rewards of their investment in the etoll company!! Judas!!! may u burn in hell for screwing the poor!!

  • thulanit3 - 2012-11-13 23:10

    Floyd must shut up,,,you squandered a lot of money with that pig called 'malema'

      naledi.mokhele.3 - 2012-11-14 05:43

      LOL! But that's how politics is played Charlie!? You fill your mouth and pockets with food then you make a PUBLIC pronouncement about how the other co-players are eating more than you, about how selfish they are and about how greedy they are!\r\n\r\nThats how the game is played!

  • debduplessis - 2012-11-13 23:36

    albeit 2 weeks late but ..... "If the government can produce figures to show that an equal amount of money is being spent elsewhere, there can be no problem if President Zuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa," he said. ------------ HELL SPEND IT ON ME!!!

      phae.rayden - 2012-11-13 23:41

      My thoughts exactly, what a stupid comment from Mr Craven, but then again its not unusual.

  • phae.rayden - 2012-11-13 23:55

    Its difficult to serve and remain faithful to a master who can't behave, isn't it COSATU? As for you Floyd, your weak lone voice makes little impact. However I do want to congratulate Malema's lawyers on managing to get him keep quiet to save his butt. Its been an absolute pleasure. I can only hope we can look forward to this silence until the end of the trial.

      arie.vdplaats.3 - 2012-11-14 04:06

      Malema is NOT keeping quiet. He is now operating underground and doing maximum damage without it being seen or reported

      naledi.mokhele.3 - 2012-11-14 05:33

      I'm not a fan of the man, but lets face it, Malema was the only person who could stir the 'crazy' out of everyone. His silence is making the masses keep silent too; which is exactly what we do not want, even though he did it in a rather, unprincipled way.\r\n\r\nBecause if the masses do not raise their concerns, no one will take the matter seriously

      camp.j - 2012-11-14 09:41

      As much as i dislike Malema for the damage he has caused SA, he is the ONLY man with the b@lls to take on Zuma openly. Give that man a JW Black!

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-11-14 00:05

    This is by far the most mildest, most polite criticism COSATU ever made public abwt our gvnt. They publicly declared their support for Zuma's 2nd term, hence statements like \If the government can produce figures to show\r\nthat an equal amount of money is being spent\r\nelsewhere, there can be no problem if President\r\nZuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa,\ Had it been some1 involved, there's be hell to pay.

  • knchabeleng - 2012-11-14 00:26

    only the person who has future,s/he will do what is best for others..

  • tobydt - 2012-11-14 00:38

    'Never underestimate the power of stupid people, in large numbers' Nuff said.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-14 06:15

      LOL!!! well said....

      tony.angel.3975 - 2012-11-14 07:10

      I,will wear my t-shirt with the same inscription,but also add JZ name!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-11-14 01:12

    I agree with this comedian \Never underestimate the power of stupid people,in large numbers\ The ANC youth league is now raising very important issues.Thanks guys for thinking like leaders of tomorrow.This is madness(Jacob Zuma's palace) The so called communists are calling it rural development.nonsense

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-11-14 04:11

    hmmm I would like to think that something will happen now that cosatu is getting involved.Hope Im right,but the chances of that are very slim

  • brionyl.french - 2012-11-14 05:11

    FINALLY!!! Gosh Cosatu your a waste of time!!!

  • MAVHUTSA - 2012-11-14 05:16

    If its rural development why the details are so private and secretive! Shame to the sacp twisted old facks! As for zuma I dnt blame him coz we snatched him from thetjustice system into the office fully aware he's a crimal!

  • Ignatious Kudzie Chikafu - 2012-11-14 05:26

    Floyd is the best puppet in the world. he is clinging to a corrupt leader, at the same time criticising another corrupt leader. its strange to note that they think that we South Africans are dull, I say to him, SA will be a better place without ANCYL under Malema and him and JZ. work up and smell the coffee Floyd, you are also not wanted

  • bcluley - 2012-11-14 05:34

    Im pick up.all the glue sniffing street kids and carguards and drop them off i front of zumas place and tune him that they also want 200 million

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-11-14 06:10

    And the pendulum swings, we will NEVER know the truth. One thing I do know Zuma should be thoroughly ashamed of himself.

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-11-14 06:13

    The comunists must support zuma cause of the higher positions he has given,Cronin n Nzimande including Manamela r suckling on JZ's corrupt govrmnt,They clearly know that no other wise ANC president would hav given them such powerfull sits.A vocal Nzimande supporting JZ like this is questionable indeed.

  • beverly.young3 - 2012-11-14 06:21

    I have a stupid question peeps, bear with me. To whom does Zumaville belong? Actually? When Zuma goes, come next election? where is his private home? You know what I mean, does he own a house there? Okay so when you have gotten over answering me rudely :)..........what happens to the compound, village, estate, etc?? Its Zulu compound ne? So a Xhosa person gets in......does he/she create another one in another province?

      halvor.rosholt - 2012-11-14 06:44

      ....and when (IF??? Beware the President for Life option) he's gone, who's going to pay for its upkeep and maintenance? How will The Resident, once the 'P' is dropped, afford it? Silly question - new law coming - all ex-Presidents entitled to go on raiding for maintenance of their private properties. Except Mandela and Mbeki .........

      Luba Mayekiso - 2012-11-14 07:49

      Beverly and Yaya: Nkandla is a rural village and the homestead in question does not belong to government but the president in his personal capacity. There are official residences in Cape Town and Pretoria but this is not one of them so when he leaves office it remains his private property

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-14 22:02

      @luba Mayekiso...thank you sir.......Much like Mandela and Qunu? hmmmm

  • joshua.sematla - 2012-11-14 06:21

    The funny thing is George Carlin was talking about julias malema and the Ancyl when he said,'Never underestimate the power of stupid people, in large numbers'. Hehehe

  • halvor.rosholt - 2012-11-14 06:40

    I sense that the pic above is a (very) old one, and is lazy journalism? If you go to Google Earth or Google Mail, and search 'Nkandla", you'll see the extent of this outrageous looting. It's enormous, and not a thatched roof in sight either ..... This is all damage control now, the money's long since spent and gone, and Nxesi's working on the certainty that, in SA at least, if you tell a lie often enough and angrily enough, and then don't acknowledge the noises coming back, you CAN create (a) truth

  • braamc - 2012-11-14 06:50

    Simple, showerhead is a criminal thieve, always been always will be

  • Simthembile Zembe - 2012-11-14 06:51

    The public protector must expand her team. It seems there is lot of work to be done. By the way i know that they will never increase her budget so that she gets frustrated and does not do her job well.

      tony.angel.3975 - 2012-11-14 07:15

      Can somebody help here. Is Nkandla homested of JZ permanently his home or state owned?

      thokozani.ngqongwa - 2012-11-14 07:29

      Mr Zembe tht z the truth thy wil nt want to increase her budget by wantin 2 sabotage the process.

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  • matshane.seleko - 2012-11-14 06:58

    I wish I were as tough as a politician.Able to take all the insults hurled at me.Able to deny fact and justify what cannot be justified.To speak in support of one thing today,but against it tomorrow.To speak in a language that even the listener at times wonders or doudts if I hear what I'm saying myself,because more often than not,I am quotet out of context.However,were I a politcin,well,I would have been a politician.

      phello.khiba - 2012-11-14 07:40

      this cosatu,leadership,they know the truth,they just wan't 2 fool us,we cnt b fool by their stupid statemen't 2 hell with their truth..

  • deja.skenka - 2012-11-14 07:29

    Disco my bra, 4 once let me be unbiased and post comments from ur constituency.

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-11-14 07:30


  • elaine.parker.104 - 2012-11-14 07:40

    expensive rondavels!!

      tony.angel.3975 - 2012-11-14 10:08

      Wonder if they have toilets?

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-11-14 07:47

    The power of stupidity in numbers ? Massive. ANC is testimony to that.

  • justsayingagain - 2012-11-14 07:53

    "If the government can produce figures to show that an equal amount of money is being spent elsewhere, there can be no problem if President Zuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa," he said. What the hell is this supposed to mean?

  • justsayingagain - 2012-11-14 07:54

    "If the government can produce figures to show that an equal amount of money is being spent elsewhere, there can be no problem if President Zuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa," he said. What the hell is this supposed to mean?

      tony.angel.3975 - 2012-11-14 10:10

      You have said it again!

  • john.p.steyn - 2012-11-14 08:45

    This reminds me of Hitler's compound in Germany. Absolute power corrupts .... You know the rest

  • gaiters1 - 2012-11-14 09:15

    More that 6500 houses could have been build for the homeless

  • allhaleto.theale - 2012-11-14 09:35

    WTF - "If the government can produce figures to show that an equal amount of money is being spent elsewhere, there can be no problem if President Zuma is benefiting as a citizen of South Africa," - unbelievable!

  • KennySven - 2012-11-20 03:33


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