Crime stats not trusted, says DA

2012-09-25 15:39

Cape Town - The current method of collecting, collating, and reporting crime statistics means few people trust the figures reported each year, the Democratic Alliance said on Tuesday.

"Additionally, the statistics are out of date by the time they are released, which in turn seriously reduces their usefulness," DA spokesperson Dianne Kohler Barnard told journalists at Parliament.

For the police to fight crime effectively, and to allow for government to be held accountable for its performance in crime prevention, South Africa needed a new method of collecting, collating, and reporting on statistics, she said.

Independent body

The time had come for an independent body to take responsibility for crime statistics. That was the only way to restore the public’s trust in the figures.

Kohler Barnard urged Parliament to establish a multi-party ad hoc committee on crime statistics to determine the validity of how these crime statistics were collated and reported.

This would allow Parliament the opportunity to decide whether the current process was working, or if alternatives needed to be explored.

The DA proposed that an independent body be created that would be responsible for collating and reporting crime statistics.

This body, which could possibly be a unit within the civilian secretariat for police, would have a specific mandate to collect reliable real-time data, which took under-reporting into account, to give a full and honest picture of the crime situation.

"This will include how many arrests are made, how many prosecutions are carried out, and how many convictions are secured.

"This unit must be funded autonomously to ensure that it remains independent."

Real-time crime statistics should be publicly available at each and every SA Police Service station 24/7 so that tailored and localised responses could be formulated.

For this to happen, a computerised, integrated criminal justice information system should be introduced and managed by the independent crime statistics unit, Kohler Barnard said.

  • john.kirkwood.9619 - 2012-09-25 15:48

    of course we dont trust the stats, nothing the anc gov reports on is accurate - 2012-09-26 06:35

      Goes without is the same government that steals our money. Now why would they tell us the truth?

  • yaschoeman - 2012-09-25 15:56

    I agree with her...

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-09-25 16:08

    Lenasia (1 X Indian) Vaalpark (1 X Black) Rustenburg (1 X White)(1 X White Women wounded and beaten) this what we know of reported in the media. Cold Blooded Killings over one weeek-end. How can we trust the figures.

  • Eterni80 - 2012-09-25 16:23

    the old joke about how you know the ANC is lying - their lips are moving applies here BIG TIME !

  • Eterni80 - 2012-09-25 16:25

    tried on saturday night to report a crime while it was being committed, phoned the local police station - no answer, phoned 112 sweet f all, phoned 10111 was actually shouted at. this tells me that the crime stats are full of $hit

  • sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-09-25 16:39

    Eish!Eish!Eish! Da!Da!Da! Go first WIN A NATIONAL ELECTION,then u can change the constitution

      Xavier7034 - 2012-09-25 16:51

      Are you on the right page baba?

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-25 18:39

      What has this got to do with the constitution? If you weren't so ignorant you'd stop voting for the party that steals from you.

      kevin.jordan.12914 - 2012-09-25 20:47

      so sad, that two half wits can outvote a genius. That is why one man one vote does not suit africa.

      mark.mulligan.7524 - 2012-09-26 06:30

      Anyone that doesn't try to improve South Africa for the better I consider a traitor to our country. Finding better ways to to decrease crime is good for all people in our country. Power to the people and not criminals!

      david.coetzee.77 - 2012-09-26 08:57

      Dude are you trying to get a place on the ANC's gravy train?

  • flysouth - 2012-09-25 16:43

    The failure by the ANC to properly, timeously and accurately report crime statistics is a deliberate tactic by the ANC designed to lull the public into a false knowledge of the rampant - and growing - crime wave which has plagued this country for many years. There is nothing accidental here! In addition it is common knowledge, proven by court cases etc, that some unknown number of police station commanders have deliberately understated actual incidents of crime in their reporting - this is also no accident, it is a part of official but hidden policy and I suspect that the majority of police stations fudge their crime figures as a matter of routine. The number of serious and violent crimes reported by the media is a fraction of what is really happening on the gorund. Many, many heinous assualts and even murders are simply not reported at all in mainstream media. In any event it is not ultimately the media's job and would be impossible unless newspapers etc became the size of telephone books!

  • chaze.damonze - 2012-09-25 16:49

    Yeah, stats are so outdated by the times they announced and if you could get updated reports on regions where you live or work it would help reduce crime and increase awareness.

  • Ze Don - 2012-09-25 16:55

    While they're at it; install a digital document control system that dockets must be scanned into. Then if a docket goes missing it simply gets printed out again!

      brett.scheepers - 2012-09-25 17:36

      Then that way they can't change the charges on the computer and manipulate the stats.It will never be done for this very reason. Murders are changed to Assault and Robberies are changed to theft to make the Station Comm look good at Cluster meetings.

  • roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-09-25 17:10

    They will just bull$hit the independent body. Change the government, throw the bums out!

  • sebenza.vanrooy - 2012-09-25 17:17

    They should have played their psychological games before crime got out of hand, now it is too late, But in the townships crime have reduced dramatically.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-09-25 17:32

    Kohler Barnard why don't you dazzle us with something new and original instead of always singing the same old boring songs- you are NOT helping the DA and will do much better in the ANC since you follow their old tiring politics of criticizing and moaning and never offer anything

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-09-25 17:41

    "Real-time crime statistics should be publicly available at each and every SA Police Service station 24/7 so that tailored and localised responses could be formulated." Police stations are not allowed to give out statistics. I suspect the reason why is that they are undoctored and might reflect the true state of crime in South Africa. What other reason could there be?

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-09-25 20:19

    Well said irene.

  • gerda.vanrensburg - 2012-09-25 21:15

    Many victims rather contacts security companies and do not lay criminal charges. The police should meet with security companies and included their (security comps) statistics. Although will still not be 100% accurate at least it will give us a better insight on what's happening in sunny S.A.

  • angela.michaels.73 - 2012-09-26 07:29

    And just how many times have we read/heard "and I didn't bother to report it"? Most stats are meaningless unless they are presented in a manner that allows action to be taken.

  • shepardshakes.ndlovu - 2012-09-27 13:53


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