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Crooks could be booted out of ANC

2012-11-18 16:29

Johannesburg - ANC members who are convicted of fraud, theft or corruption could be immediately expelled from the party in the future, it was reported on Sunday.

This was an amendment proposed to the African National Congress' constitution at its national executive committee (NEC) meeting, City Press reported.

Other crimes for which members could be expelled were money laundering, racketeering, receiving the proceeds of unlawful activities or financial impropriety.

The newspaper said it was in possession of a copy of the proposed new constitution.

A task team led by Performance Monitoring and Evaluation Minister Collins Chabane had also included a clause that ANC deployees to government had to sign contracts with the ANC.

This would mean that they could be recalled if they did not perform their duties in line with the ANC's rules.

According to the newspaper the revised constitution closed the loopholes which former ANC Youth League president Julius Malema used during his disciplinary process.

It also allowed for the temporary suspension of members who were found guilty by the disciplinary committee, but were awaiting appeal.

The ANC's NEC is holding its meeting at The St George Hotel, in Irene - the last meeting of the NEC elected at Polokwane in 2007.

On Friday, ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said President Jacob Zuma's political overview dealt with the issue of discipline within the party.

"The president raised mainly organisational issues. As you will know, we are going to an elective conference in less than a month's time, so the president spoke on the strengths and weaknesses of the ANC," Mthembu said.

"One of the issues that the president raised and continues to raise is the issue of instilling discipline in the ANC."

He said the incoming NEC would have to deal with many of these issues.

The party is holding its national elective conference in Mangaung next month.

Comments
  • omrisho.za - 2012-11-18 16:34

    wow, if you actually adhere to this threat, the numbers could seriously be diminished no?

      rbphiri - 2012-11-18 17:20

      If the ANC dropped their corruption, their body mass would be zero.

      Jack - 2012-11-18 21:11

      Don't worry, they will land with their bums in butter in government. What's new!

      John - 2012-11-19 03:28

      Quite "RICH" coming from the source of all that is ANCrooked in SA LOL

      art5SA - 2012-11-19 06:09

      If you boot out ALL the corrupt, fraudulent and murderous members... you will have but a handful left over.... not even enough to win a seat in a RURAL VILLAGE!!!

      frank.kistler.31 - 2012-11-19 06:26

      "Could" but would they???? uhmmmmmm ejah right lol

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-19 06:28

      Omrisho, it said'"COULD be" expelled- there is a differance. A threat like this only have one message. Steal but don't get caught.

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-11-19 07:09

      Well, if this rulinig done retrospectively, there would be no one left in the ANC!

      Rudolf - 2012-11-19 10:43

      But then they would have NONE (members) left!!?!?

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-11-18 16:35

    Why do the ANC use the word "could" "could be thrown out" is the same as lying....it is either they will be or they won't be thrown out, it is the same as using the word "If" If my aunt had b*lls, she would be my uncle....

      storm.trooper.125 - 2012-11-18 16:44

      CORRECT!!! could is like they might or might not!!!but we all know the history..they do not expelled..they encouarge those sick ppl to take on another post

      rbphiri - 2012-11-18 17:21

      The anc don't know how to use the word will...they lack will to do anything right.

      lerinda.muller - 2012-11-19 00:03

      And how about the 'in the future' bit? wtf does that mean? Does it mean that all is forgiven and only when the new bill is passed that those people found guilty will be expelled? Or that old cases of fraud and corruption will also be looked into and dealt with 'in the future?' This is all a little too ambiguous for me, less talk more action!

      duane.low - 2012-11-19 03:30

      it also says "convicted...." so this "law" will never happen....it if window dressing to apease the public......... takes years for a conviction this is merely a PR stunt to show the voter they trying to cleen house before the elections.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-11-19 07:21

      Could, would, should, if they do who will be left?

  • cathy.dejongh.5 - 2012-11-18 16:36

    OFFS

  • saschalipka - 2012-11-18 16:36

    Since it said convicted, I guess nobody will be booted

      SharonE - 2012-11-18 16:44

      They are slippery like eels, you just can't get ahold of the buggers!!

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-18 18:08

      Of course not, except those who have upset showerhead, they will be used as an example. This is all just noise, there is an election coming up, some food for the sheeple to swallow, they are trying to placate the foreign investors as well. Looks good on paper but that's it.

      Ollie - 2012-11-18 21:21

      I guess it will be an excuse to get rid of those against the president since I suspect evidence can be found on anyone of them!

  • eyeronix - 2012-11-18 16:37

    Let's start with the president

  • gcj.wood - 2012-11-18 16:39

    I wonder how many would be left????

  • frikkie.botes - 2012-11-18 16:42

    100% bootout then for the ANC, oh sorry i misread, could be booted out, but never likely.

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-11-18 16:42

    FU** anc statement are already wrong..NOT COULD BE EXPELLED.."WILL BE EXPELLED" fraud & corruption..is a crime..but anc jus give those useless ppl another post..

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-11-18 16:42

    whatever, is this how they intend to phish for votes

  • willemien.meadon - 2012-11-18 16:43

    Ha, ha, ha. Is it an April fool joke? Where are \they\ going to start? With Zuma? Will there be any ANC members left? No parliament? No one to \lead\ this country?

      pdvermaak - 2012-11-18 16:53

      Well, nobody is leading the country now???

      willemien.meadon - 2012-11-18 17:26

      LOL!!! You are right, must rephrase, nobody to spend my tax money!!!

  • frikkie.botes - 2012-11-18 16:44

    Never once in ANC history was one minister or member of parliament booted out, they all received a diamond handshake, for a diamond lasts forever . from Shaik to cele.

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-11-18 16:45

    Start with Showerhead then l will get to believe it.

      phello.khiba - 2012-11-18 17:05

      may those,who'll b booted out,is regime change,it will b easy,but they learn from the best,they learn from de president.

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-11-18 16:46

    Too little too late! Strange that jail is not proposed. ANC does not have enough feet to boot the whole party out. Corrupt to the core?

  • issy.monar - 2012-11-18 16:46

    Does it matter?

  • catgirl1971 - 2012-11-18 16:54

    Will only be a handful of the 'comrades' left then! DIE cANCer DIE!

  • herman.kramer.988 - 2012-11-18 16:55

    LOL, that is so funny! So does this mean that JZ will go first? LOL

  • esther.coetzee.50 - 2012-11-18 16:55

    Wonder how many will be left in the ANC and whether the same rule will apply to VOTERS for the ANC!!!!

  • douglas.barnes2 - 2012-11-18 16:55

    what crookes? lol

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 17:01

      All people with the surnames of Crook or Crooke, the way I understand it.

  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-11-18 16:56

    Good movie tonight......

  • morwen.fourie - 2012-11-18 16:56

    So we won't have a president?

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-11-18 17:11

      I think we will be better of without one than having the spear at the helm

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-19 06:33

      Do we have one?

  • vaughn.l.jacobs - 2012-11-18 16:57

    It states "...could be..." , WTF ?! How about WILL BE and WILL GO TO JAIL ????? Idiots !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • mzuvumile.g.mnqanqeni - 2012-11-18 16:58

    That will mean the end of the ANC because the part is run by crooks. Marphias has long been hijacked our movement it will be left wth no single person that statement is shallow and insincere. And I am sure that is product marphia element wth our movement.

  • russelllundie - 2012-11-18 17:00

    I doubt that any one is really scared of this, as you would first have to be convicted. We all know that will never happen as long JZ and JuJu are running free :(

  • manie.vanwyk.12 - 2012-11-18 17:02

    JAILS OVER FULL,,, GO HOME full PAY AND HOLIDAYYYY,,

      lesleyb.smit - 2012-11-18 17:52

      What about Robben Island - that's available although not as luxurious as the Nkandla Compound ....... they could get back to their roots on an Island getaway.

  • narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 17:03

    I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/372/889/450/sa-taxpayers-support-opposition-parties-motion-of-no-confidence-in-president-zuma/

  • grant.beeton.7 - 2012-11-18 17:03

    What a load of cr@p, Zuma will have to go first.

  • TheSingingHorse - 2012-11-18 17:06

    That confirms it. "In the future." What does this say about the past .From the president down.It is scary what goes down in Africa whether in the name of democracy or not.If it were not so scary it is a joke.

  • poppy.moiloa - 2012-11-18 17:07

    We're not fools!!I don't buy it..liars

  • JohnDough - 2012-11-18 17:07

    ROFL! Membership would be zero in a years time.

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 17:13

      Just remember to scratch their names off the members roll and refund them their R12.

  • sandy.m.roman2 - 2012-11-18 17:08

    And so they should be expelled. However, seeing is believing.

  • idille.borchers - 2012-11-18 17:08

    Ag Please, there wont be anyone left in the party.

  • JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 17:09

    How are you going to deal with the GHOST-members ? (hand them over to the spirits I suppose)

  • spikes.joubert - 2012-11-18 17:10

    Don't hold your breath, anyone.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-19 01:02

      They'd need a caucus to carry such a vote. Can't imagine the cadres voting themselves out of the most lucrative deal on earth.

  • Mike - 2012-11-18 17:10

    Please define "future" exactly.

  • nick.holmes.184881 - 2012-11-18 17:10

    Thats the entire NEC

  • mark.anderson.7161 - 2012-11-18 17:14

    John Block remains Chairman of the ANC in the Northern Cape and a MEC of Finance, despite a fraud/corruption charge.

  • adriaan.vlok - 2012-11-18 17:16

    If the do that the ANC will not be a 'party' anymore, but a political movement... imagine that!

  • herman.burger.5 - 2012-11-18 17:17

    How can you expect discipline in an organization where the leader himself has no discipline? I fear these are empty words. It is almost impossible to bring anyone in government, or the ANC for that matter, to trial.

  • majwarha.balakisi - 2012-11-18 17:17

    What happened to the investigation about the manipulation of lists before the Municipal election?

  • jake.ko.71 - 2012-11-18 17:18

    WOW THAT WOULD MEAN EVERYONE IN THE ANC ......LOL

  • Foremind - 2012-11-18 17:19

    This idea will just destroy cANCer

  • gcj.wood - 2012-11-18 17:22

    OK people this easy, Democracy 101, if you decide to enter into politics within a democracy, you are required to display total conviction and total transparency. If you consciously lie to the people of the country or embezzle even 1 cent of public funds, then you are prosecuted and go to jail! END OF STORY!!

      gcj.wood - 2012-11-18 17:42

      JZ don't give me a thumbs down bru, you been caught!!!

      gcj.wood - 2012-11-18 18:53

      But honestly who would in their right mind give me a thumbs down for the statement I've just made???? Whoever you are, It's called ACCOUNTABILITY a word ALL politicians must learn!!

  • duettists - 2012-11-18 17:23

    A lovely idea, but I doubt if it will ever happen!

  • peter.jordaan.5 - 2012-11-18 17:26

    A good idea ... start with the president and most of the NEC and then work your way down ... you will find that after you hit the second layer that the DA will have more members than you. But don't stop for then with those few you can start to be a good opposition with some integrity ... imagine that as a change. As George was saying the cANCer is rife in the ANC.

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-11-18 17:27

    BUT, they have to be CONVICTED!

  • castro.anzi - 2012-11-18 17:29

    Just START WITH BOOTING ZUMA - IT WILL BE A GOOD & CREDIBLE START INDEED, OTHERWISE ALL IS JUST HOT AIR FROM HYPOCRITES

  • Tawizee - 2012-11-18 17:31

    LMAO. Catch them if you can.

  • JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-18 17:31

    "could be immediately expelled from the party in the future" Immediately in the future ?????? uttered by a moron or maybe it's an oximoron ?

  • Michael Morreira - 2012-11-18 17:32

    Why don't the these crooks go to jail?

  • julie.vanniekerk.3 - 2012-11-18 17:32

    No one will be left if this is their new policy! ROFLMAO