DA: Re-open arms deal investigation

2011-06-17 14:31

Cape Town - The Hawks must re-open the arms deal investigation due to new claims that R24m was transferred to a South African consultant by British armaments manufacturer BAE Systems, says David Maynier, the Democratic Alliance shadow defence minister.

Reacting on Friday to a statement issued earlier this week by Swedish aerospace group Saab, Maynier has called on the commanding officer of the Hawks, General Anwar Dramat, to investigate the claims made by Saab CEO Hakan Bushke.

Dramat ordered the investigation into the arms deal, which involved the purchase of 26 Saab Gripen jet fighters, but it had been closed due to lack of evidence.

Buskhe issued a press statement admitting that an internal investigation had revealed that: about R24m had been paid by BAE Systems to Saab's original South African subsidiary, called Sanip; the payments were then transferred from Sanip to a "South African consultant"; the transactions were never entered into the accounts of Sanip; and the payments took place without the knowledge of Saab.

Maynier said the consultant who received the secret payments was reportedly Fana Hlongwane, who was an adviser to Joe Modise, the former minister of defence, and who was alleged to have received up to R200m in "commissions" relating to the acquisition of the fighter jets from Saab/British Aerospace.

Maynier said the information revealed by Buskhe was very serious.

"It amounts to a prima facie case of bribery and/or corruption in respect of the arms deal and must be investigated," he said.

Maynier said that if the payments were above board, why was it necessary to launder the money through Sanip, a company that was reportedly set up by Saab/British Aerospace to manage the arms deal offsets?

He said the DA would be writing to Dramat to confirm the Hawks would be investigating the R24m payment reportedly made to Hlongwane by BAE Systems.

  • crocodile - 2011-06-17 14:41

    these are very serious allegations which left un probed will tarnish our image.the rule of law should take its cause

      REVO - 2011-06-17 15:36

      We all known that Zuma aka "Jubba the Hut" is guilty. However we can not afford to proceed with these allegations, Zuma aka "Jubba the Hut" is sadly the only capable leader the ANC has at the moment...i'd rather deal with Zulu's then any other Fuking tribe!! Better we not proceed....because we'll only get malema!! My they say we're at crossroads right destruction or salvation.

      Freddie - 2011-06-17 17:36

      What allegation? This is an admission that the bribe was paid! If a bribe was paid, someone MUST have accepted it. Accepting a bribe is defined as CORRUPTION!! No allegations, only statements of FACT.

  • Zizo Snr - 2011-06-17 14:49

    DA, Remember to include the costs as part of your wasteful expenditure monitor.

      Stryder - 2011-06-17 14:54

      @Zizo Snr-These cost would not fall into the category of wasteful expenditure. This would be money well spent as we could claim all of the costs from those exposed as being robber of the poor, as well as what they stole fro the poor. You seem to think corruption is okay. Do you? A simple yes or know will suffice, or you can try to back up your answer if you wish.

      Oppressor - 2011-06-17 14:55

      Remember to include the amount of oxygen you waste in your waste of space journal.

      tailormade - 2011-06-17 14:58

      troll alert....once again!

      pd - 2011-06-17 15:23

      So Zizo, what are saying, is that we must close down the police. The costs are too high. And with it all the courts. Make sense. LOL

      Greybeard - 2011-06-17 15:35

      Please read my previous comment and follow the link if you have the guts to accept what you are voting for.

      JustinD - 2011-06-17 15:54

      Zizo, Have you wiped your bum today, or are you letting off the same smell from last week?? Asshole!!

      R.Suppards - 2011-06-17 16:58

      The culprits, once pronen guilty, should have their assets confiscated, this would offset the costs. Whatever it costs, this government owes it to the taxpayer who has been defrauded, to re-establish the probe into Arms Deal Corruption.

  • Gorilla - 2011-06-17 14:54

    The only reason that I can see for the Arms Deal being swept under the carpet is that some very big and influencial, globally respected politicians are involved.

      MT Wessels - 2011-06-17 16:04

      Yeah, like Nelson Mandela!

      tiotudg - 2011-06-17 16:32

      MT Wessels, Sowat as dit Mandela was? Looi hulle

  • DeonL - 2011-06-17 14:54

    It is about time to open the case again.

      Mad Hatter - 2011-06-17 16:05

      Goes to high up , they already had to change the head public procecutors , Bulalani Nqcuka and Vusi Pikoli ring any bells?

  • tailormade - 2011-06-17 14:57

    Saab and BAE have now "admitted" to irregular transactions taking place, yet our government is the only party to completely deny any reason to continue with this investigation. Let me guess: Saab and BAE get a huge kick out of implicating themselves for no apparent reason. What more must happen before our government acts responsibly in this manner? Maybe they thought that this whole matter would simply disappear when Yengeni and Shaik were sentenced.

  • Maxwell - 2011-06-17 15:07

    wow I can't wait to see such evidence that the DA claim to have, I hope it is a credible evidence as the courts don't have time to play seesaw, I mean now that there is a name of a person linked to such claim. Bungles continue within the DA, where is the service delivery in Khayelitsha?

      GTA_Lad - 2011-06-17 15:17

      Where is the service delivery in the rest of SA?

      Maleo - 2011-06-17 15:28

      Read the article before you waste space here...

      DeonL - 2011-06-17 15:30

      Some places in Khayelitsha received no power in 12 years of ANC rule in Western Cape, but within 1 year of DA rule, they got theire power.

      CamelJoe - 2011-06-17 15:40

      Dom drol

      REVO - 2011-06-17 15:45

      Maxwell...please have a look at the video...i'll even pay you!!! But trust me when i say this you'll need a drink at hand.

      Morne Loubser - 2011-06-17 15:56

      @ Maxwell .. Buddy...where is the service delivery from the ANC? Thaught so...NONE! Their taking the money you pay on taxes (IF you pay taxes) and pissing it out on kak. Open your eyes man!

      REVO - 2011-06-17 16:26

      and you know what the most ironic aspect of it is?...they all drive BMW/MERCS/VW/ PORSCHE all GERMAN/NAZI made vehicles. Now that's pretty sad if you ask me.

      Wayne - 2011-06-17 16:36

      *sigh* We can surely win the Darwin awards and The Guiness World records for the country with the most idiots. Maxwell can you even think past your nose?

  • Shorts1 - 2011-06-17 15:08

    One would gather from one or two of the comments posted here that there are some who are totally comfortable with bribery / corruption. Apparently good governance and ethical responsibility / business morals are not seen as being practices suitably respected and adhered to by African governments & their supporters. Perhaps these too are those who are just waiting for their turn to also stick their own snouts deep into the troughs of self indulgence / personal enrichment irrespective of whether it is legal or not. Time will tell as to the whether this issue is properly addressed or just swept under the carpet & conveniently forgotten about by those in authority who are both directly & indirectly involved.

      Grunk - 2011-06-17 17:08

      Remember also that we are going to have a national gag order imposed on all media shortly.

  • iamasouthafr - 2011-06-17 15:10

    I cannot beleive some of the comments to this article. Who cares if the President is Black or White. This is not a race issue. It's about honesty and itegrity - something the leading Party in SA must have if SA is to survive. When I say survive I mean for all of us to survice not the minority - EVERYONE!!!!!!

      Maleo - 2011-06-17 15:30

      Cannot agree more!

      Versace - 2011-06-17 15:35

      @ Iamasouthafr: You are new to this site neh? here every topic pathetically turns into race, brase yourself for the worst!!!

  • Simpiwe Cele - 2011-06-17 15:20

    Agree with the DA , re-open the arms investigations , lets see who really befitting and accepted bribes.

  • Mmoledi - 2011-06-17 15:23

    Those are the old things the case is been closed long ago to open it again will be a waste of time and money that should be used to service delivery, if that company wanted to reveal that info why did they not done that before that case was closed due to lack of evidence and do it now? it seems there is a motive also behind this arms deal so let it be a thing of the past and the country soldier on delivering services to the communities rather than wasting time and energy on that.

      Zooma Lema - 2011-06-17 15:29

      Crime does not have a sell by date. The long arm of the law will finaly truimph.

      iamasouthafr - 2011-06-17 15:32

      Hi MMoledi - when I first read your comment I was almost convinced but then I thought to myself if we do not get rid of bribery and corruption how much more money will be lost in future?

      REVO - 2011-06-17 15:47

      @Mmoledi...please have a look at this video, and tell me what you think, because i'm missing something here!!

      willieman - 2011-06-17 16:04

      So you benefitted

      Citizen - 2011-06-17 18:52

      @Mmoledi maybe we should close down the police, courts and prisons as well. It just cost money. Let's focus on service delivery

  • Goose - 2011-06-17 15:26

    Cheesh people. There is right and there is wrong. The arms deal scandal is going to cost SA taxpayers for around another 15 years yet some amongst us believe we have no right to have the crooks investigated and jailed? Is it because it is "ok" for blacks to steal? Don't matter if a criminal is black or white, if he is guilty he should get the maximum sentence!

  • jonessierob - 2011-06-17 15:26

    halleluja amen

  • Zooma Lema - 2011-06-17 15:27

    Hang them and hang them high.

  • Eva Bogiages - 2011-06-17 15:48

    I agree

  • shiela - 2011-06-17 15:50

    Education goes a long way. Quote Lindiwe Sisulu: Securing our democracy has never been more urgent. We have the means to turn our challenges into opportunities and become a more inclusive, prosperous democracy where all citizens assume their rights and responsibilities.

  • JustinD - 2011-06-17 15:53

    Yes please, lets see who the thieves are.....

  • foxie123 - 2011-06-17 15:54

    DA must hang themselves, dont you have anything beta 2 do instead of bulking.

      bob - 2011-06-17 16:03

      Foxie u idiot, stopping corruption is the best thing to do, I bet that you are a thief, I hope you get shot!

      willieman - 2011-06-17 16:20

      It's got nothing to do with Da is about the rule of law.Foxie123 wait until the day Info Bill is passed then you will see how you are going to be silenced and i can bet you it will be late my brother

  • willieman - 2011-06-17 16:07

    Who got the kickbacks ? Zuma? Mbeki? Shaik? Late Joe Modise? Tell us so that we can close this nonsense and move forward

      tiotudg - 2011-06-17 16:37

      Willieman, Miskien Mandela, wie sal weet, of glo jy daar is hoop vir so iets?

  • Gungets Tuft - 2011-06-17 16:13

    Everyone knows that Modise was as dirty as sin, along with the Armscor leadership at the time. Noseweek wrote about him and Ian Deetlefs at the time. Of course nobody will investigate. They will string if out until the Info Bill makes sure that the documents are hidden for 50 years.

  • juan.coetzee - 2011-06-17 16:13

    As much as this should happen, the parasitic thieves in power will never allow it. Too many ANC fat cats got kickbacks in this deal.

  • BoneCollectR - 2011-06-17 16:19

    Will it ever end. A national embarassment indeed. Corruption is a pain in the a$$.

  • Fred - 2011-06-17 16:25

    I think the ANC's biggest worry is how far up the ladder this is going to go. I think this will, if the truth ever comes out, implicate the entire ANC heirarchy, and they will lose total credibility in the world, and we will have official Banmana Republic status.

  • tiotudg - 2011-06-17 16:35

    DA gee hulle hel, namens ALLE Suid-Afrikaners

  • Wayne - 2011-06-17 16:38

    Why the hell are you people defending a criminal? Is it in your culture?

  • Georgie Porgie - 2011-06-17 16:46

    someone has said that "Justice delayed is justice denied" and for evil to flourish requires good people to do nothing. So if you consider yourself "good" and you have knowledge on this issue your time for destiny has come! Make a stand and do something!!

  • Organist-1 - 2011-06-17 17:00

    Paul, why do you think they want to muzzle the press?

  • R.Suppards - 2011-06-17 17:12

    Why not have an amnesty, with a cut off date for those seeking forgiveness. Let all those who benefitted be pardoned in return for FULL disclosure. Those implicated that do not come forward, be prosecuted, if found guilty their assets forfiet to the State. We will need honest judges.

  • sainsaudi - 2011-06-17 17:57

    Hence the absolute need to push the info bill through parliament with haste post haste. The crows are coming to roost and the truth will come out sooner of later. Many of the ANC elite are beneficiaries of the Arms Deal, and it has tainted their hands. When the truth comes out there will be a revolution in the country, so it would be best for the ANC to quirtly retire this present mob, as well as the "elected" leaders of the ANCYL so that they can be prosecuted without too much fanfare, while the country remains stable in the hands of more professional and educated people. Conversely, the ANC could just give up power, and hand the country over to the DA as caretaker government for five years while the courts decide what should be done with this den of thieves. Looks like there might be more Robben Island Old Boys and RIOB returnees. THe DA is not a White party, btw, it's a party made up of South Africans who want to see a better country with a sustainable future in which we can all be proud. At the moment it seems that the only pride there is left in SA is when a politician get a new car, or new house, or new watch or even a new building to house a government department. And now they want a new parliament building, yet we cannot educate, feed or house the nation! A case of very different ethical behaviour.

  • v3 - 2011-06-17 19:12

    Why are SARS and the Reserve Bank also not doing their jobs?

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