DA reporting far-right groups to HRC

2012-06-03 22:51

Johannesburg - The Democratic Alliance in Mpumalanga said on Sunday it would report several far-right groups to the Human Rights Commission.

This followed a protest in Delmas on Thursday against the murder of a Delmas day mother, Margrietha de Goede, 66, and 5-month-old baby Wiehan Botes.

Posters displayed slogans reading: “Black cowards – leave our women and children alone”, “Steal, rape, murder: We are finished with Black South Africa” and “Barbarians leave our children alone”, the DA said in a statement.

"We believe that these inflammatory slogans run against the Bill of Rights," said DA spokesperson Anthony Benadie.

They also contradicted the constitutional imperative that “no person may unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone [on the grounds of race]”, he said.

The party would report Die Boere-Afrikaner Volksraad, Volksraad Verkiesings Kommissie (VVK), Die Verkenners, Republikeinse Vrouebeweging, Kommandokorps, Herstigte Nasionale Party (HNP) and the Afrikaner Weerstandsbewiging (AWB) to the Human Rights Commission on Monday.

"Tragic incidents" such as the double murder should never be used as a tool for the promotion of hateful and discriminatory ideologies, Benadie said.

South Africans concerned about crime should instead call for specialised crime-fighting units to be set up within the police force.

  • Sharon - 2012-06-03 23:00

    I fully agree with the DA - these people are using the murders to promote their own agenda. That is incredibly disrespectful to the victims.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-06-03 23:11

      Shows how little they care about others besides themselves. They won't even respect the dead or their families, they will just use them to get publicity.. Sies.

      melania.nel - 2012-06-03 23:14

      I agree. They have even attacked people from Delmas on public forums on facebook for not joining in the march. Telling them they will get their throats cut by blacks. Its sickening. I was helped by a black doctor at a gov hospital and his service was excellent. To call him a barbarian just because he is black is wrong. Generalisation is wrong. What exactly are they doing for anybody..?.nothing even for their own \boerevolk\ when they attack their own people so violently with words.

      henrileriche - 2012-06-04 01:03

      All the DA is doing with this is jumping on the bandwagon to win "black" support. Nothing else. Because they are dead silent on anything else. This is just a political ploy as usual. And the sheeple will fall for it. Good on them.

      John - 2012-06-04 01:38

      @henri: whatever you assume is a motive behind this move, they are right. Unless you are pro-racism and into promoting hate speech. Don't be the same as your black counterparts that denounce Ms Mazibuko as 'being the tea-lady serving her white masters'. Then you are no different from the black racists.

      henrileriche - 2012-06-04 02:28

      @FivecentsWorth - I am for that protest against those barbarians that murdered that baby. If you read into those signs and assuming it's ALL black people then that is not anyone's fault but your own, for assuming. Do I support those parties. No. Trying to brand me as a "racist" is last decade mate. It's the easy option for losers as an excuse. Does that make me racist? I cannot see why. Just another ploy to excuse black racism to win votes.Immediately the victims are ignored, and made out to be racist, when in fact they are just standing up to racism. Any intelligent person, with two braincells know that these people were protesting against the perpetrators. Funny, how people fit this for their own little perceptions. And be a man and post under your own name if you're so strong of conviction. I am, and I say good on this folk. Most whites are pretty much fed-up on the silence of black racism. Is't it funny there wasn't even one incident in the media about black racism? On what planet is sick South Africa living?? No wonder people just go with the flow and shout from the corner with the most noise....

      Mmannyo - 2012-06-04 02:28

      Eintlik, who are the barbarians in this case?

      theTruthWillSetYouFree - 2012-06-04 02:35


      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-06-04 03:08

      @Henri re your innocent-victim tirade : \The group reportedly hurled racialslurs at (random) black people\, quotes a previous article.\r\n\r\nIn your mind, they were innocent protesters, but in reality it was something else. Funny how you accused others of making assumptions.

      Benn - 2012-06-04 05:00

      s this person stupid or naive? Most people dont seem to share his confidence in the police. I wonder why? Has he just arrived back in SA after a long absence? We shall be reporting the hypocrecy of the DA to the voters!

      Merven - 2012-06-04 07:15

      Really Sharon, and what have the DA done thus far to prevent or fight these murders?

      melania.nel - 2012-06-04 07:46

      Dear henri. I get what you are saying but please do understand that this protest had ulterior motives because they did it under a veil of the 2 murders but on their boards stood words like ' down with black sa' and more black slurs. That has nothing to do with the murders. Rumour has it that the parents of the murdered baby left the protest because of this gross misuse of time and place. Please read their comments on the link. Those people are not from Delmas and shouldn't speak as if they are.

      eric.vanvuuren - 2012-06-04 07:50

      HAHAHAHAHA now tell me DA, where were you at Malemas last march hey you freakin bunch of "draad sitters" hoe long do you think things are going to be allowed to go this far and further before the tax payers are going to fight back?

      John - 2012-06-04 08:26

      @Henri: I didn't know your right of passage to be a man was inciting racial divide in an already racially sensitive land congratulations on being a 'man'. I have my reasons for a pseudonym, what would you do with my real name? Come to my house and challenge me to a duel? And perhaps bring your cousin, auntie and militant uncle 'om my 'n les the leer'? How very old school of you. Grow up Henri - find out what a real man is. People generally should behave differently after leaving high school. If you think the march was only against the murderers then you're really naive. The placards were clearly blaming blacks and rallying white people against a common black enemy - why do you think it was covered in the media? . How is that different from how Malema incites his followers? As much as I find those murders sick, I find it even sicker that it is used to pit white against black. Protesting against crime, yes I get that. Taking a firm stance against violence? sure. Using the same tactics as ET? Not so much. And if you look at the irony of your comments, it's a mirror image of black ANC racists denouncing black people in the DA as political sell-outs to the whites masters. This march HAS become politicised, and it has thrown fuel on racial tension, so someone HAS to say "hey! This is not the way we should do things". And if that gets you votes then it means more people feel the same and want to tackle issues in a different manner. That brings me hope.

      eugenedigter.terreblanche - 2012-06-04 15:50

      What is the DAs problem? Those people where peacefully protesting against the murders by savages. And the DA is now complaining, because they didn't use the usual meaningless euphemisms during the protest. All that shows that civilised people shouldn't support the DA in anyway as they are obviously siding with the savages.

      Kate - 2012-06-05 00:14

      The DA can go to hell. Sure, speak out against hate speech but also speak out against the ANCYL threatening to grab land which only incites hate. Speak out against the Chapman's Peak development, you corrupt DA swine. Stop trying to butter up the non white vote, you aren't fooling anyone except looking like a fool with your pants on the ground. Black majority already don't trust you, now neither do the whites. When the DA hand over leadership to a black person, I'll believe their bullsh*t is for real.

      John - 2012-06-05 11:49

      Personally, I trust no politicians. If they were trustworthy, we wouldn't need the three separate tiers of government, and we wouldn't need an opposition either. I don't kid myself, I never thought the DA was the silver bullet to all our problems, but, they are the only opposition and an opposition is essential to put some breaks to a power hungry ANC. As far as Malema's Ancyl, DA have spoken against them, they also joined agriform positioning themselves agains hate speech. The political battle against autocrats is continuous. The message from the DA is that we need to work together as South Africans, of all races, and not pit races against each other - besides being common sense, history should have taught us a few lessons. These murders of innocents are atrocious. I'd love to have the death penalty and make an example of these murderers to others that the price of taking a human life is not cheap. There does exist constructive means of fighting crime together. Emotions are naturally running high, as it would in a senseless crime like this. Does it justify polarising races? No, it doesn't. Besides being morally wrong, it makes absolutely no practical sense either. It pits white against black while criminals watch from the sidelines and continue raping, murdering and stealing. Now, after the DA does speak against hate speech from ANCYL, and battle ANC from driving a wedge along racial grounds to maintain their votes, it would weaken DA position by saying nothing here.

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2012-06-28 08:53

      @ Sharon - Well said, I agree completely with you, and it is very good to hear somebody else say that. Unfortunately my perception is that the DA themselves was not must different until very recently and that not just far-right, but also moderate people get caught up in this SA-bashing thinking. Actually I believe the DA did the same to gather votes for themselves. Always criticising and never acknowledging the good that has been done. But yes, I must agree, this is a very good turn of events that generally people are realising that the SA doomsayers speak mainly from a racist perspective.

  • paul.mciver1 - 2012-06-03 23:00

    Reporing? What happened to their original pores???

      Lacrimose - 2012-06-03 23:12

      They got bored

      eugenedigter.terreblanche - 2012-06-04 18:33

      At least they got an original picture. I just don't understand what anyone can find wrong with the wording of the poster. Does the DA support murder and rape by Black cowards?

  • Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-06-03 23:10

    I fully support DA on this one

      melania.nel - 2012-06-03 23:18

      The DA is so far the only party that doesn't take sides. They report all that they find unfair. We need more people like them.

      Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-03 23:24

      Me too :) these people must realise that race has nothing to do with it. Not all black people are cowards, just because of a few. Just like not all whites behave and think like these guys

      John - 2012-06-04 01:41

      I agree. If you aspire to lead, you have to be impartial. Racism should not be tolerated, from anyone - be you white or black.

      Mmannyo - 2012-06-04 02:32

      If DA takes this way, then they will earn my cross.

      Merven - 2012-06-04 07:17

      At least the DA is winning the black supporters.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-06-04 08:54

      41 dislikes? Are you people effing stupid?

      eugenedigter.terreblanche - 2012-06-04 15:52

      The DA supports the savage murderers and of course will gain their support.

  • Frank - 2012-06-03 23:27

    I voted DA in the last election even if it was purely to block the ANC from taking over the WC. The DA should be careful for not stepping in the pooh of political correctness when reporting these people they regard as racists. If they continue, the blatant racism displayed at the ET court case should be handled with the same vigour in reporting these crowds singing "Kill the boer"! The DA seems to have lost the pulse of their voter base that is increasingly getting more and more fed up with the actions of the ANC-block of fools running roughshod over this democracy. Just read the comments on this forum becoming increasingly critical and hard-nosed when articles of the next corruption/murder/ rape/child abuse surfaces and these comments are on face value, DA supporters..........

      Amused - 2012-06-04 10:44

      Frank Then the DA doesnt need your vote. The DA is positioning itself as a moderate, non racial party, who offer good governance to all the people of South Africa, regardless of colour. It will take time to build the required trust on all sides of the political landscape, and attracting non-white support is a crucial and fundamental step. That will innevitably cost the DA some white, stuck in the past, right wing support, and that is a price that should and must be paid. In truth white racists, who are far too prevelant on this site, do more harm than they ever start to realise. VIVA South Africa, screw racists, black, brown or white. You can still vote for the FF+ and marginalise yourself further, fly the old flag, sing die stem, and moan about K*ffers at braais until your heart is content

      eugenedigter.terreblanche - 2012-06-04 15:54

      The DA was silent when Malema incited genocide. They are silent on farm attacks. They are silent on Zumas incitement on genocide. They only make some noise when they can harvest some cheap votes from the sheeple.

      Frank - 2012-06-05 07:18

      Amused-Reader - June 4, 2012 at 10:44 Just like the pathetic bunny hugger you are, off you go bleating like a sheep over something you perceive! The DA needs every vote it can muster, fool, as the ANC is snapping at their heels in the WC. The idea was to get the DA, working for us, (or are you one of these idiots idolizing your "leaders"?)to be consistent! Killing off the vote that keeps them in the WC cannot be a smart move in anyone, but your book! So why don't you keep on telling you pseudo intellectual friends over a glass of red plonk how you are going to adopt a black baby, join Black Sash and snicker behind the backs of rugby players because you so dearly need to try and be relevant! Jack@ss!!

      msendi - 2012-06-05 12:39

      Reading the comments in this story, I realize that apartheid propaganda did a lot of damage. Most people will never be free from the chains of hatred, no matter what.

      Frank - 2012-06-05 14:04

      msendi - June 5, 2012 at 12:39 What apartheid propaganda and what hatred are you on about? Just because I don't condone stupidity, barbarism and head in the sand behaviour, doesn't automatically spell ""hate"! Don't try your ANC BS with me as it doesn't work!

  • Lacrimose - 2012-06-03 23:56

    Please also report SABC for refusing to air Nando's anti-xenophobia advert.

      Martin - 2012-06-04 11:47

      hahah that ad was classic

  • theTruthWillSetYouFree - 2012-06-04 02:43

    BE CAREFUL DA, I SMELL A ROTTEN ANC HAND BEHIND YOUR MOTIVES. a special POEM for the DA and their followers: LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE. Deceiver, dissembler Your trousers are alight From what pole or gallows Shall they dangle in the night? When I asked of your career Why did you have to kick my rear With that stinking lie of thine Proclaiming that you owned a mine? When you asked to borrow my stallion To visit a nearby-moored galleon How could I ever know that you Intended only to turn him into glue? What red devil of mendacity Grips your soul with such tenacity? Will one you cruelly shower with lies Put a pistol ball between your eyes? What infernal serpent Has lent you his forked tongue? From what pit of foul deceit Are all these whoppers sprung? Deceiver, dissembler Your trousers are alight From what pole or gallows Do they dangle in the night?

      Stefanus - 2012-06-04 08:23

      don't give up your day job

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-06-04 08:32

      LOLOL - Agreed Stefanus!

  • reubenk3 - 2012-06-04 04:24

    It is really disappointing to see that after 18 years of democracy, people out there are still discriminating other races, can we really say apartheid is over? I just hope the HRC will fine or eniterly put an end to the accused organisations.

      Merven - 2012-06-04 07:18

      'people out there are still discriminating other races,' Like AA and BEE?

      eugenedigter.terreblanche - 2012-06-04 15:55

      How about savage murders after 18 years of democracy? And no end in sight!

  • Carel de Lange - 2012-06-04 05:38

    There is nothing as narrow minded as libtard. The DA is proving it yet again. for the sake of political points they are committing high treason against people who are rightfully asking the right questions. They just lost my vote. If they feel so strong about race then maybe they should rather attack clearcut ANC racist policies such as land reform and the green paper on land reform.

      Whitemist Blackmist - 2012-06-04 06:41

      @Carel..wake up, the DA is right!! Its a mature decision on its part and Jean is correct..when is the right thing suddenly the wrong thing to do? Its when Carel is emotional and not thinking..I encourage all our people to think and act outside racism.. when we narrow things to just that level, we have very narrow, limited capacity to think..

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-04 06:09

    Racism in South Africa

      Merven - 2012-06-04 07:20

      Like strangling and burning white babies?

  • Mark - 2012-06-04 06:11

    Is 'reporing' even a word?

      WitWolf - 2012-06-04 06:47

      Seems to happen a lot these days. Did they ever hear about spell checkers?

      Merven - 2012-06-04 08:52

      Not according to the Mac dictionary.

  • Anthony C. Onwudiegwu - 2012-06-04 06:12

    Come on DA, you can fool some people sometimes but you cant fool all the people all the time. what a propaganda!

      Jean - 2012-06-04 06:22

      Uhmmm helloo! Must one remind you the useless anc is still in power!

      Whitemist Blackmist - 2012-06-04 06:33

      The DA also has black people supporting, however it has been playing the defender of the white for too long..i am glad they are starting to defend the constitution and shows improvement..they still have a long way to go to become an all Inclusive RSA party...

  • Oompiet - 2012-06-04 06:34

    Now that sounds like DA for all,but its the western cape we worried about the home of racism and hatred towards black people.the whole province should be also taken to HRC by FFP.

      Whitemist Blackmist - 2012-06-04 06:44

      Yes there is a first time for everything..may they start to attract people into the long as all the people of South Africa participate politically and work together it will strengthen our democracy..

      Louis - 2012-06-04 06:48

      I've been reading your comments every now and again. How do you go through life convincing yourself that all whites are racist, yet you're one of the people always making racist comments? If you don't want people to be racist, why approach them with a racist mindset. Just because there are the AWB's of this country, it does not mean we all support them.

      Whitemist Blackmist - 2012-06-04 07:04

      Louis, you are right two wrongs dont make a right

  • Louis - 2012-06-04 06:43

    South Africans should instead call for specialised crime fighting units...and when will that happen??? I agree that the racism must stop, but can you not see the frustration - I'm sure there are thousands in townships suffering from murders as well but they don't know where to vent their anger yet. When you put minorities under pressure, they will certainly always behave like this, right or wrong. There are only 4million whites left in South Africa.

  • Ntobane Setabola - 2012-06-04 06:43

    Hatred between blax n whites is something eternal just like a fight between good n evil,saint n sinner. It's something we'll all pretend we don't promote or practise but deep down within ourselves lies the truth...sehlare sa musi ke go o tshiruga...

      Whitemist Blackmist - 2012-06-04 06:54

      Ntobane, its not normal or internal...its a choice, depending what you want to does not make it right..its small bigoted idiots that think along colour..there is only one race genetically and its the Human race..when you receive a blood they ask for black or white blood..NO..its all the same...under your skin..lets stop the stupidity!!

      Koos - 2012-06-04 08:23

      Whitemist Blackmist: Actually there are differences in genes, genetic makeup, developmental differences and physical differences. IQ’s, brain development, interpretation.... evolution in short. There are some studies that have been done since the First World War. Data based on more than 90 years of research. The results are definitive. We are NOT the same. Result: Asians will rule the world.

      Frank - 2012-06-04 09:41

      Well, at least you are open about this little-known fact! I do think hatred is a too strong a word but mistrust is ample reason to stay on different sides of the proverbial fence. We don't need to promote or even express it but suffice to say, the ingrained divide, in this country specifically, is drawn like a line in the sand. No bunny hugger or liberal PC fool is going to ever rectify this in the time of our or maybe a few generations to come!

  • WitWolf - 2012-06-04 06:45

    They want to take them to the HRC. But what about the poor ancyl talking about land grabs. Singing illegal songs like kill the boer and nothing done about it.... My next vote will not be for the DA again....

      amukelanis - 2012-06-04 06:56

      Ancyl was taken to court n d song was burned

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-06-04 07:12

      Burning the national flag is high treason, during your favorite government, people died for doing that, but chanting racist slogans is satanic. You need Jesus if u think taking these scumbags to the HRC is wrong. And hei the DA won't worry about your vote, after this, the DA has won few new votes from the members of the majority. So hou jou vote.

      Victer - 2012-06-04 07:15

      @amukelanis do you realy think they stopped sing that racist song.Open your eyes.You are a blind and deaf fool

      Msika - 2012-06-04 07:49

      @Victer, you are right, they probably didn't stop singing that song, but they can not do so in public. Do you think some white poeple have stopped using the K word? I don't think so, but atleast the are laws that prevent them from using that word. The DA has earned my respect for taking a stance against racism. Viva DA Viva!!

      russell.w.wright.5 - 2012-06-04 07:55

      No Ratsaka burning the flag is an act of disgust and not an act of high treason. I will vote DA simply because they are doing a good job of running the Cape and for no other reason.

      melania.nel - 2012-06-04 08:08

      If more would work with each other rather than against each other, things have no other way to go but better. As for the land grabs michael. The people it was allegedly stolen from are long gone and dead. The people who allegedly stole it is also dead. Who do you want to pounish for other people's mistakes? Not fair. There are however great ideas all over for empowerment and helping the poor, but for each name change and party your ANC throws, it take away that opportunities from thousands of people every time. Do some research man. Don't make stupid comments.

      WitWolf - 2012-06-04 14:17

      michael.falatsi Still living in the past I see. I suppose it's the apartheid's fault the anc and ancyl are still corrupt liars.

  • ratsaka.eugene - 2012-06-04 07:00

    This is called killing three birds with one stone. Doing the right thing, winning the black vote, patronizing the weak. But for what's worth, well done DA. Keep it up. Scum should not be tolerated.

      jeandre.robertson - 2012-06-04 07:27

      i hate the black dogs who killed that baby and woman. may u rot in hell bastards!!!!!!!

  • Victer - 2012-06-04 07:03

    While they are at it can they also report the ancyl.

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-06-04 07:17

      Report the ANCYL for what now Vic, for being black? Because I think they were even taken to court, what more must they be reported for.

      Victer - 2012-06-04 07:26

      ancyl should be banned for racism

  • Msika - 2012-06-04 07:35

    I don't care if the DA is trying to win my black vote by this or not, but I concur with them for calling a spade a spade. Nice move DA!! If only the ruling party can learn from this.

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-06-04 07:42

    Its not about black and white that is long gone,its about too many sick and unstable people in this world of all colours and creeds and governments that allow murder,rape and crime in the first place.

  • Will - 2012-06-04 07:42

    Well done DA! You might lose out on some of the votes in that part of the country - but doing the right thing is worth more than a few votes!

      melania.nel - 2012-06-04 07:51

      Those people are not even from Delmas. They used the saddest platform to make a stupid statement. They should have tackled the issue at hand but they didn't. They just made things worse.

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-06-04 07:53

    I still believe Zuma is a best reconcilor.

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 09:09

      and you believe the earth is flat

      Freckled - 2012-06-05 07:50

      And he believes that he can demand peace as well?

  • Ganon - 2012-06-04 07:55

    I'm ANC but DA is 2000% correct!!!

  • michael.falatsi - 2012-06-04 07:58

    im impresed DA is not such a racist party after done with ANC ya ''dikhothane'' how do i go about to set up a DA youth branch in my area

  • chasrocker - 2012-06-04 08:06

    The DA has lost my vote.. Obviously Peophol benadie is just opportunistic and wants to win the majority black votes.. These people have the right to freedom of speech, and if they feel that blacks are killing them then their taxes are suppose to be paying security the only reason that they have that image \blacks are killing us\ in their heads is because they have no security! THIS IS THE TRUTH!

  • Ryno - 2012-06-04 08:11

    altough these events (and every murder for that matter) is very very tragic - showing plackards like this will not solve anything. use your democratic right and vote and vote right. i would say about 95% off all our trouble started with the X in the wrong place

  • Tax - 2012-06-04 08:14

    Oh well there goes my support for the DA. I'm dissapointed I thought they had balls.

      Duma - 2012-06-04 09:28

      In fact the DA has more balls than any of their rivals,they have the balls to tell an inherently evil BAAS that he is wrong.

      Duma - 2012-06-04 09:38

      In fact the DA has more balls than any of their rivals,they have the balls to tell an inherently evil BAAS that he is wrong.

  • chasrocker - 2012-06-04 08:15

    If The DA said more South Africans with white skins should be killed off and there Babies bodies mutilated and cut out of pregnant woman's bodies. then these black commentators in this story would be like. \Yeah.. DA is 100 000% correct if It wasn't for The ANC I'd change my vote..\

  • Julie - 2012-06-04 08:19

    I once thought that it would be a good idea to join the DA but do you know what? I WONT TOUCH THEM WITH A TEN FOOT POLE! Their main aim is to divide the ANC and spit on the other parties.

  • Duma - 2012-06-04 08:19

    Criminalise racism and see who will fill the overcrowded jail cells of SA.

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 09:09

      all the anc

      Freckled - 2012-06-05 07:49

      Overcrowded = already full (filled). Contradicting statement I would reckon.

  • Anne-Marie - 2012-06-04 08:24

    Wow DA talk about selling out your supporters. I suppose you will do anything to try to win votes from the majority population.

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-06-04 09:39

      You are an idiot. I never saw a DA supporter at those demonstrations, what DA supporters are talking about???????

      russell.w.wright.5 - 2012-06-04 10:51

      Huh?....what DA supporters?

  • Jacques - 2012-06-04 08:25

    I'm all for this, there's no place for such racist clowns, but to call for specialised units within the police is useless. The second they actually uncover something worth finding, they get disbanded. First the scorpions, and what was that other article 'leave the hawks let the eagles fly they can't be tamed' BS? SMH.

  • Barry - 2012-06-04 08:29

    "South Africans concerned about crime should instead call for specialised crime-fighting units to be set up within the police force." And where has that got us, will we get more bird names that get disbanded when they get closer to the criminals in power as in the past? Seems the only special unit the authorities want is the ostriches, with heads firmly buried in the sand... Inciting racism is not good, neither is reverse racism & genocide, there is a lot more work to do now to build a non-racial South Africa than when I democracy was born, we can expect frustration since we have regressed badly.

  • Andrew - 2012-06-04 08:36

    Some white people are fed-up with all the murder, rape and anarchy fired by some black folk, and think its high time white people should stand up to this and in some cases take the law into their own hands. The posters aren’t very democratic, but is the rape and murder of innocent woman & children very democratic? I know there are a lot of good black folk in SA, and we don't need to see all as murdering rapists because of a few rotten apples, but good blacks should also take a stand against these spineless savages, so the fight would be between good and evil, and not between black and white.

  • Kenny Makenzi - 2012-06-04 08:38

    i must say im quite disappointed in those who say DA is a sellout. it shows that we are still a racist nation and we will never unite. i fully agree with the DA. crime affects all of us

      Martin - 2012-06-04 12:02

      im anti politician, their mo is lying, they say what they think people wanna hear, its all about power, im with the man on the ground, black, white, coloured and indian, i have slept on the streets, i know how cold and hungry it gets, i have slept in a mansion on millionaires mile in clansthal in kzn, i like my little apartment that is mine, i have seen all spectrums of life, and lived all, im not afraid to be good to my fellow man, nor make the bad ones vanish from the face of the earth. im not afraid to eat scraps nor lobster thermador, to share a quart or sip johnny walker, to eat cake or to have it eaten on my behalf... we gotta stop listening to politicians, and open our eyes, when last in reality was a white black indian or coloured bad to any of us of any race,besides the communal hurt we are made to feel through the media??

  • ntokozo.vakalisa - 2012-06-04 08:44

    Using these isolated unfortunate cases to advance your racial hatred is sickening. U shud be ashamed of ourselves. Im sure DA doesn want incorrigible racists' votes. So guys plz feel free to vote FFP/AWB. Or other parties that perpetuates racial intolerance

      Anne-Marie - 2012-06-04 09:16

      No party represents and creates racial intolerance quite like the ANC. Just saying!!!!

      Abby - 2012-06-05 10:26

      @Ann, I think you have some unresolved childhood issues...

  • ntokozo.vakalisa - 2012-06-04 08:44

    Using these isolated unfortunate cases to advance your racial hatred is sickening. U shud be ashamed of ourselves. Im sure DA doesn want incorrigible racists' votes. So guys plz feel free to vote FFP/AWB. Or other parties that perpetuates racial intolerance

  • Gareth - 2012-06-04 08:50

    I agree completely. Those are hateful statements which we cannot allow in South Africa. Proudly DA!

  • ricardo.capazorio - 2012-06-04 08:51

    BO BLINK EN ONDER STINK! To kill an old lady and baby is savage! The ANC government should be accused no. 1 in this murder case because they failed the victims and the culprits! If they had a job and some moral leadership those victims would still be alive today! These senseless murders are a clear indication on how the ANC government is failing everyone in South Africa.

  • rory.short1 - 2012-06-04 08:51

    I agree with the DA. A crime is a crime. It is immaterial what the skin colour of the perpetrator is and to infer guilt by association through shared skin colour is actually illogical. People ensnared in such illogical thinking are actually in need of psychotherapy.

  • louise.smit1 - 2012-06-04 08:51

    Has it even been found that the murderer(s) were black??? What would the AWB etc. say if it turns out they are white??? Grow up racists there are bad people on both sides...BUT I believe there are more good people in this country than bad. DA... You still have my vote. Colour is NOT the issue poverty is!!!

  • ricardo.capazorio - 2012-06-04 08:51

    BO BLINK EN ONDER STINK! To kill an old lady and baby is savage! The ANC government should be accused no. 1 in this murder case because they failed the victims and the culprits! If they had a job and some moral leadership those victims would still be alive today! These senseless murders are a clear indication on how the ANC government is failing everyone in South Africa.

  • Gareth - 2012-06-04 09:05

    Could News24 not find a more scary-looking man for the article picture? Looks like my primary school teachers that daily beat the cr@p out of me. *shudder* He did not like quiet boys for some reason.

      Billy - 2012-06-04 09:40


  • Dakey - 2012-06-04 09:08

    Never will I vote for the D.A. As a white Afrikaner I voted ACDP (a black leader) in the last election and I will continue to do so in future. The D.A are showing themselves to be a typical political party using all tricks to win votes and in doing so losing its integrity. They support FREEDOM OF SPEECH when it comes to showing a black president's wong in art form, but somewhere draw the line at the word 'Black'? Where were you Zille for a family of the 5 month old after the murder? Why Zille is it always Afriforum that is responsible for bringing guys like Malema and other black racists to justice? Goodness I don't like the ANC either, but at least they seem to have a little more integrity when it comes to winning votes.

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-06-04 09:22

    So when a black man rapes a 6 month old baby then kills him thats a crime, not hate crime!!! When julius and his cronies carry placards about shooting whites and taking their land its not racsist?!?! Let me tell u, when someone goes in your home, rapes and kills an 6 month old child then tell me whats hate crime?

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-06-04 09:22

    So when a black man rapes a 6 month old baby then kills him thats a crime, not hate crime!!! When julius and his cronies carry placards about shooting whites and taking their land its not racsist?!?! Let me tell u, when someone goes in your home, rapes and kills an 6 month old child then tell me whats hate crime?

      LanfearM - 2012-06-05 11:44

      So if that was true, i.e. that the black guy who did this hated whites, then what about the black babies being raped and killed? Is that then just normal crime while when its a white baby its hate crime? Nonsense.

  • Billy - 2012-06-04 09:26

    so, when black people march or protest, its cool, normal. with all the crazy boards and signs with slogans they hold up. (as seen on TV, the NEWS) but if a few angry white dudes do it, its racist! these guys are pretty peaceful, imagine it was the other way around?? 2 wrongs dont make a right, but CLEARLY there is somethnig wrong here that is bothering people. wasnt there some meeting the other day to hear the concerns of afrikaans folks? i get the whole eye for an eye leaves everyone blind thing but people need to be able to protest their disagreement, specially if they are not heard the conventional ways. people need to get off the rasicm bandwagon, so what if some people dont like others, english dislike the french, the french the german, everyones got something to say about the americans, etc. etc. as long as the dislike doesnt affect people negatively does it really matter? who cares what piet or sipho or john really thinks? surely you should be able to exercise your freedom of speech, especially if your unhappy.

      LanfearM - 2012-06-05 11:43

      Ok, then I am sure you supported Malema when he and supporters sang the "kill the boer" song? Since its freedom of speech and all?

  • wynand.bezuidenhout - 2012-06-04 09:30

    You are all so clever.....until they kill your baby and rape your wife,then u'll be the one's holding those posters.....

      LanfearM - 2012-06-05 11:43

      And if a white man does that? Like in several cases over the past couple of years? Like the most famous one, the Sheldean case? What then? Will you hold a poster hating all whites [even though you are one yourself]? Crime affects us all in this country. Why do you think some rapists and murderers are torn to pieces in the townships by the residents? Because they are just as fed-up as we are! But racialising crime will get us absolutely nowhere in this country. It is only making things worse!

  • Amanda - 2012-06-04 10:00

    You can delete my comments as many times as you like. The DA and the ANC are cowards and News24 isn't much better. Go for it. Delete it coward.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-06-04 10:55

    The DA is right, these groups that have protested here do so using a racist undertone, it should have just been a protest without a race issue. However if that were the case would they have had their voices heard. The report says......far right groups......that will mean that there is a left group in this country. At present there is no left group, and I say this because there does not seem to be a group that balances any movement away from violence and confrontation in South Africa. It seems that more and more protest are beginning to carry an undertone of racial hatred except for the recent unified march on e-tolling which was focused on the dislike for the ANC-Allince government incompetence. There is also the huge amount of anti government service delivery protests, is this what can be regarded as the Left in South African politics. No, the DA is right, a small group of whites have hijacked a sad criminal act, a murder of the innocent which is a daily occurrence, happening accross the entire population in South Africa. These right wing groups, which include the likes of the ANCYL and any others who talk hatred are not welcome by the new majority of South Africans who want to see the establishment of good governance without it having to be a racial issue.

  • johnny.arnold.167 - 2012-06-04 11:33

    DA said they are against racism from the start. DEMOCRATIC (everyone, not just white or brown or pink or purple) now they make a anti racist move and everyone looses all bowel control? They have showed this anti racist attitude toward black and white.