DA to meet police over march

2012-05-18 07:17

Johannesburg - The Democratic Alliance will meet Gauteng police to discuss Tuesday's DA march on Cosatu offices which was marred by public violence, the party said on Thursday.

DA spokesperson Kate Lorimer said she would meet acting provincial police commissioner General Pumzo Gela next Tuesday.

They would "discuss what went wrong with the policing in the DA march to Cosatu and how we can avoid the same situation re-occurring in future", she said in a statement.

Police spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Tshisikhawe Ndou said the police would reserve comment until after the meeting.

Earlier on Thursday, Lorimer said the march had suffered from a lack of adequate public order policing and protection.

The police must explain why more public order police were not at the scene, why Cosatu supporters were not dispersed - as their demonstration was illegal - and whether any threat assessment had been conducted prior to the march.

She had written to the police requesting a meeting with the acting commissioner to discuss what went wrong and how similar situations could be avoided in future.

"It is imperative that the SA Police Service explain why they did not uphold the legal right of the DA to march," she said.

"Did political pressure influence their behaviour?"

In her letter, Lorimer complained that the lack of public order policing preparedness and protection was unacceptable.

There had clearly been no communication between the SAPS and the Johannesburg Metropolitan Police Department (JMPD) regarding the march, she said.

"The two were badly organised, and seriously under manned and under resourced."

It was the job of the police to uphold the law, and the DA had had a legal right to march.

"Over and over again I heard our DA marchers saying they would never trust the police again, as the SAPS were clearly biased towards Cosatu," she said.

"It is understandable that they came to this conclusion."

The SA Communist Party condemned the violence, which, it said, had been brought to the city by the DA.

It accused DA leader Helen Zille of hiring unemployed black youth to attack the marchers, and compared the violence to Chris Hani's assassination.

The DA march on Tuesday, headed by Zille, youth leader Makashule Gana, parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko and national spokesperson Mmusi Maimane, began peacefully.

But as the protesters turned into Jorissen Street in Braamfontein they were met by toyi-toying Cosatu members moving down the street from Cosatu's offices, opposite the Joburg Theatre.

For an hour, the two groups traded insults with a cordon of police keeping them apart.

When rocks and pieces of cement were thrown into the crowd during Zille's speech and a DA member on the VIP truck was seriously injured, the DA retreated to Jan Smuts Avenue.

Cosatu members chased DA supporters and police had their hands full trying to control groups intent on hounding the blue-shirted protesters out the area.

Police eventually sprayed teargas and fired a high pressure water gun to break up the Cosatu crowd.

Several car windows were smashed and at least two people were injured by flying bricks and rocks.

  • Andre - 2012-05-18 07:26

    Cosatu should get a copy of George Orwell's book, "Animal Farm", and read it. They will the understand the quote: "We are all equal, but some more equal than other."

      Alf - 2012-05-18 07:32

      Who will read it to them?

      Henri - 2012-05-18 07:42

      Careful, the SAPS in jhb is also members of cosatu, as for the commissioner it wouldnt surprise me if he is one of the trustees. Corruption isnt just in parliament.

      eon.malherbe - 2012-05-18 07:44

      Cannot agree more.

      mark.j.porter.5 - 2012-05-18 07:58

      @Alf - Brilliant :)

      Keith - 2012-05-18 09:26

      @Totsi, Wishful thinking brother she will not disappear. Why is she wrong for acting against a criminal and illegal act she has a right to lay charges and confront the police for doing a poor job. If it was your family member who got hurt would you not want justice. The law is the law and as usual you think people are above it.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-05-18 10:01

      Tsotsi, this is not Twitter, your hash tags mean nothing.

      William - 2012-05-18 12:49

      @Andre: I think they've read it & taken it to heart. Unfortunately, it seems they got the wrong message out of it.

  • ndumiso.mncwango - 2012-05-18 07:36

    Whatever the SACP lacks, it's not a sense of humour. To suggest that the DA hired people to attack them is a joke

      Mewik - 2012-05-18 07:47

      Don't forget they then compared it to an assassination. That made me chuckle

      Alf - 2012-05-18 07:52

      Did bra Blade dream that one up after a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue Label?

      Anthony - 2012-05-18 07:58

      @alf must be a happy box

      Juan - 2012-05-18 08:14

      bunch of clowns

      Keith - 2012-05-18 09:28

      @Totsi, do some research on the DA and you might be suprised, or is the News 24 website the only one you can use?

  • Barefoot - 2012-05-18 07:40

    Cosatu members are in the wrong here, but a threat analysis was done hence the DA were told not to go to Cosatu house, another thing the police were dividing the crowds as the article states and measures were taken to disperse Cosatu supporters teargas watergun. if you want a vote from people like me stop nagging so much and behave like adults we all already saw what happened stop trying to shove it down everyone's throat.

      Koos - 2012-05-18 07:58

      Then you should stop shoving apartheid down our throats.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 08:22

      errr barefoot - this country IS a free country with human rights! Or so I thought! So when a march is PREPARED, APPLIED FOR, is LEGAL, then the police (which is financed by member of thge public through taxes blah blah), HAVE to ensure there is security ESPECIALLY when threats were made the previous day! Just because there were threats before olympics, or soccer world cup, does NOT mean that one had to say oh okay people are threathening so we better not have them. THEY ENSURE SECURITY! Do you understand simple logic? guess not...

      Peter - 2012-05-18 08:30

      You dont find anything wrong with the fact the words "threat analysis was done", why do we need a threat analysis for a peaceful march?

      Barefoot - 2012-05-18 09:41

      a threat analysis is done on every public gathering as someone has mentioned it was done for the Olympics

      richard.hipkin - 2012-05-18 10:03

      @barefoot, then the group who did the analysis should be investigated because they under-resourced the march... on purpose?

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 10:05

      @barefoot - still if a threat analysis HAS been done and WAS found to be high, then WHERE was the security? HENCE the title of the article: "DA to meet police over march" because they were MEANT to be there to ensure security..! The DA held the march ASSUMING that was going to be arranged. Little did they know in Gauteng things happen VERY slow - unlike in the DA-led areas...

  • Koos - 2012-05-18 07:40

    Don't expect any honest answers from the police farce. The only thing they know is how to be incompetant. Nothing more, nothing less. They will not admit to political interference.

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-05-18 07:50

    Yho! Who remembers the Tambo squre woman? Was it true? OK\r\nHow aunthetic was this march again bayobona kudala ukuba kudlalwa ngabantu abadingayo. .

  • Sonja - 2012-05-18 07:50

    RACIST UNEMPLOYED COSATU MEMBERS!!... Hired by COSATU for the day, to disrupt the DA march..!!! Get your facts straight, commie boy scout league!

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-05-18 08:33

      Hey! As a current Rover Scout,I ask that you please don't compare the greatest youth movement in world history with this bunch! \r\n\r\nScouts are awesome, would get the facts 100% correct, and have the skills to send these hypocrites chasing their own tails.

      Keith - 2012-05-18 09:31

      @Totsi, time you Jump!Clown

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-18 08:21

    Blabla all you people can do good is twisting reality to suit your selves. And still win the war with lies. The bible said thing like this will happen funny enough.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-18 10:10

      oh my word - what are you ON about? HOW on earth did you get to the Bible from this article? If you DO want to speak of it and you DO say that people like to twist words to suit them, then all you have to look at IS the Bible itself..! That is why I listen to God through my heart, and not read a Bible that has been over-translated, modified to suit people at certain times..! Amen...

  • neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-18 08:24

    Hellen take it like a man you knew what was going to happen the people warned you but still you went trough with it a useless march that would only benefit a few individials this is not the old days you`ve toyed toyed with the ANC.

      sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-05-18 09:07

      I think Helen has more "man" in her lil finger than u have in ur whole body Neels u are an ahole

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-05-18 10:37

      If no one stands up in believing what is right and wrong whether you the ANC or not you may as well stay at home and pick your nose waiting for the hordes of the unruly to take over and destroy what could be.wake up neels.she has taken it like a man.

  • Freedom - 2012-05-18 08:35

    Why is it in this country that only the ANC or ANC affiliated alliance partners are allowed to march or have anything to say about freedom or what is happening or what should happen in this country? I am sick and tired of the bully and scare tactics used by the ANC or partners to instil fear and hatred into fellow South Africans. When are the sheep going to wake up and smell the coffee???? The ANC does not care about you, they never have and never will, and are only interested in further stuffing their already fat faces and bank balances. Come on people catch a wake up!!!!!!!

  • Richard - 2012-05-18 08:39

    you go DA it is now time that this issue is highlighted and that other political parties can march and safely and with police protection free of intimadation. I normally would not get involved in such matters but this has made me angry, I think all of us that have commented on this, needs now to put our hands up and be counted on the ground and join in when the next march takes place so those who say, where are the whites, can now realise that it is not about colour it is about morals and values and where we, as the people want South Africa to be and stand for. We have all seen the power we have through the e-tolling saga and we are stating to realise we can make a change so lets do it!!!!!!

  • marutleofentsewilliam.ofentse - 2012-05-18 08:42

    cosatu failed to act resposibly in neglecting the da to protest for youth subsidy.the only thing way which cosatu will take was to refuse the memorundam by stating facts not being violent.

  • sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-05-18 08:58

    Most of the police these days are anc members so how can they defend us DA members ??????/

  • Jeffrey - 2012-05-18 09:09

    I don't get this straight, truely, itsn't that any march must be legal, granted by the court. now who granted the Cosatu March. look they term it toyi-toyi to suite their stupid deeds. Ok toyi-toying is illegal and know in SA as much as appreciated by communities. the question is: what was their reason for toyi-toying. it doesn't give any sense.

  • Jeffrey - 2012-05-18 09:14

    “We need an opposition to remind us if we are making mistakes. When you are not opposed you think everything you do is right.” Mahatir bin Mohamad. the former prime Minister of Malaysia

  • Kobus - 2012-05-18 10:38

    "The SA Communist Party condemned the violence, which, it said, had been brought to the city by the DA. It accused DA leader Helen Zille of hiring unemployed black youth to attack the marchers, and compared the violence to Chris Hani's assassination." Don't you just love the way these has-beens have to remind everybody ALL THE TIME about Apartheid? If they talked about the production of Avocado's to a reporter, they would have to add: "yes, the avocado industry is making a comeback, but YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER that during APARTHEID, the blacks were beaten by the Avocado farmers and the black people were disenfranchised by the Global Avocado Industry." How the F()ck does Chris Hani's assasination have anything to do with the march? JUST KEEP REMINDING THEM, KEEP REMINDING THEM, KEEP REMINDING THEM... Make sure that in 70 generation's time, we still remember APARTHEID. Please people, get the F()ck over it. Move on. Let's work together.

  • Coloured - 2012-05-18 12:25

    Ag this is just apartheid reversed. cosatu should never have been at the march to start with so their march was illegal. im sure if the DA should have an illegal march rubber bullets would have been flying and arrests would've been made.

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