DA wants government to act on Syria

2012-03-02 18:02

Johannesburg - Government must support international calls for Syrian President Bashar Assad to be charged for crimes against humanity, the Democratic Alliance (DA) said on Friday.

The party said it would write to the international relations and co-operations department, and urge Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane to "advocate in all possible forms" for al-Assad to appear before the International Criminal Court (ICC).

DA spokesman Ian Davidson said: "In addition, I will be asking the minister to use South Africa's positioning on the Syrian issue to clarify the government's interpretation of the 'responsibility to protect' clause as outlined in resolution 1674 of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC)."

The council has the power to refer cases to the ICC, which has jurisdiction over genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

According to reports, Assad is using tanks and artillery in cities where protesters are calling for the end of his rule.

The UN has estimated that more than 5 400 people have been killed in the conflict to date.

In February this year, the UN concluded that the gross human rights violations in Syria had been ordered by the Syrian authorities "as a matter of state policy".

Davidson said government needed to send a clear message that South Africa would not shy away from international intervention when human rights and the lives of innocent people were at stake.

  • marnusmnorval - 2012-03-02 18:09

    Why not focus on your own country first????

  • phathuchicos - 2012-03-02 18:22

    "talk to the hand DA", that will never happen as long as the A$C bows the chinese emperors and russian ruriks for yuans and rubles.

      colin.langley - 2012-03-02 18:25

      well said!

      John - 2012-03-03 05:39

      Uppps......Putin (Russia) said "Go for Bashar Assad" Azanian, please...

  • Morne - 2012-03-02 18:25

    SA will make no difference in the Syria situation! The only solution is to send in the UN and take this basterd out!

      spartanx93 - 2012-03-02 19:30

      SA made a fool of themselves during the Libya situation. So I don't think any other international body will take SA seriously these days....

      John - 2012-03-03 05:48

      No difference?... Send Sello Malema with machine gun there and watch the news. Hahahhaa...maybe the other 3 carry ammunitons for the "black baret".

  • Alex - 2012-03-02 18:33

    Interesting, I just want the government to act....

  • Morama - 2012-03-02 18:54

    I believe there's nothing of interest in Syria because those "Super powers",tjhe one's that are above the law and united nations could have already made a move like as they did with Saddam and Gaddafi?

  • Se-a Spencer Ikeremm - 2012-03-02 19:13

    The DA sometimes just want to have something to say. As if the SA gov taking a stance will make a difference.

      Alex - 2012-03-02 19:18

      At least it would be a stance ON SOMETHING.

      Se-a Spencer Ikeremm - 2012-03-02 19:56

      We have too many problems here at home, let's make some kind of progress here first, and then worry about foreign lands. Like Apartheid, the world could have long flew/sailed in and done something, but all those nations were busy fixing themselves first & foremost.

  • Hennie - 2012-03-02 20:05

    The D A is worthless! They don't even belong in politics! More concerned over Syria Than what's going on in South Africa! DA your days are numbered and you don't even know it...just shows you!

  • Fidel - 2012-03-02 20:13

    The DA, with its colonial mindset should understand that SA as an African country is not in the business of telling other people how to lead their lives or interfere. Where was the DA's call when Afghans, Iraqis and Libyans were being carpet bombed by the Nato terrorists.

      Fred - 2012-03-02 20:36

      It's yours that's the colonial mindset, Fidel. This much is obvious from all your stale comments steeped in the past. You're stuck, seemingly can't get out of that obsessive thinking. It's for the best though. It makes your views irrelevant. Time to change and step into the light?

      Sipho - 2012-03-02 21:14

      fred,the truth hurts doesnt it? fidel is 100% correct! besides,the libyan rebels are al-qaeda and that can nno longer remain hidden.

  • Sipho - 2012-03-02 20:56

    for all of you white people in south africa who are commenting on syria,dont you bigots think that you all should be calling for the De Klerks and the Trollips and the Malans of south africa to face an ICC court for the crimes against humanity that they committed against the black people of south africa in the name of white supremacy? how soon you all forget that your beloved apartheid regime killed over THIRTY THOUSAND BLACK PEOPLE in the name of white supremacy! not democracy! not freedom of this or freedom of that but pure white hate and bigotry! the UN cant even lie about libya any more now that RADICAL MUSLIM EXTREMIST (AL-QAEDA)has taken over that country just as gadaffi was telling the world! mind your own business and send the perps from apartheid to the hague before you cast stones at a govt in syria who is fighting against the same terrorist that gadaffi was fighting against!

      Leroy - 2012-03-02 21:14

      30 000 ? When and where ? Been in SA forever and in many a province...Would surely have picked up mass murder in any one of them...

      Alex - 2012-03-02 21:19

      According to a Human Rights Commission report submitted to the TRC (Truth and Reconciliation Commission) in 1997 the number of blacks that died during Apartheid (1948 to 1989) was 7 000. Compared to 14 000 for the period 1990 to 1994. Compared to 174 220 for the period 1994 to 2000 (under Nelson Mandela) The report also states that about 92% of deaths were caused by 'black-on-black' violence. (1990 to 1994) Please note this is not from Apartheid Government's books but from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission set up by all political parties after the collapse of apartheid.

      Fidel - 2012-03-02 22:21

      Killing people doesn't only entail shooting them in the back. Exploitation, injustice, poor medical service, lack of access to clean water, the breaking up of homes, violence, etc can all lead to depression and death. Stop being apologist for apartheid. To trivialise apartheid is filthy.

      Alex - 2012-03-03 00:47

      Fidel,the above stastic is neither apologistic nor trivialising Apartheid. It merely provides a death toll during a specified period of time. It also does not state how the people died during this period, just a total number of deaths. "Exploitation, injustice, poor medical service, lack of access to clean water, the breaking up of homes, violence, etc can all lead to depression and death." By saying this, are you suggesting that currently in South Africa none of the above is a problem and all South Africans have access to clean water, world-class medical service and are entirely safe from violence? I'm sure there are statistics of these available too, would you like them?

  • Francois - 2012-03-02 20:58

    I voted for DA in elections as the only viable political party in SA. However, I may soon have no politicians to vote for if the DA is also joining the hypocritical Western nations in selectively condemning countries for human rights violations. How about condemning the USA for human rights violations by incarcerating people without trial in Guantanamo Bay? How about condemning Israel for assasinating people with rockets launched from gunships in the streets of Palestine on the pretext of being "militants", without trial? How about condemning NATO (Western nations) taking part in removing/killing the leader of Libya, a sovereign country, (despicable dictator or not) without trial? This selective morality and hypocrisy is utterly unacceptable to me.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-03-02 21:45

      @ Francois..It would only be fair to examine the reasons for all the actions which you have mentioned above. They were all triggered by aggresive acts which both directly or indirectly affected the sovereignity of various countries including themselves and world peace. Actions always give cause to consequenses.. something which you chose to ignore.

      Fidel - 2012-03-02 22:17

      Oil and entrenching western hegemony! Favourable access to markets and resources. Enough reason for you Alan? "We hope Iraq will be the first domino and that Libya and Iran will follow. We don't like being kept out of markets because it gives our competitors an unfair advantage," John Gibson, chief executive of Halliburton's Energy Service Group, International Oil Daily 7th May of 2003 (less than 7 weeks after the invasion of Iraq) The DA is a supplicant of western powers indeed!

  • Leroy - 2012-03-02 21:05

    The most powerful force that brought down apartheid in SA was international guys suck when you suggest DA doesn't hop on the bandwagon...

      Sipho - 2012-03-02 21:12

      leroy,stop your lying! america england and all of europe supported apartheid 100%! even after sanctions were FINALLY put in place,england and america allowed their white owned companies to violate international law and bust the sanctions. why didnt nato bomb pretoria during apartheid? the answer is simple because the war criminals then were WHITE, and of britsh descent!

      Leroy - 2012-03-02 21:30

      Sipho...where did all of the new SA politicians go study ?...Did SA not have arguably the most powerful defence force in africa ? Did not Mandela get released because of international pressue ? ( He is still to my feeling the greatest man alive, yet...maybe Ghandi and him are sort of equal ) do you truly think it was not the West, but your local coward who placed a bomb in a Durban disco who turned the tale ?

      Sipho - 2012-03-02 21:46

      leroy south africa did NOT have the most powerful defense force in all of africa.that is nothing more than your white apartheid supremacy at work. you see,the US govt has been arming to the teeth the now radical MUSLIM EXTREMIST BROTHER HOOD led govt of EGYPT since 1979. before then yes,but not after AMERICA decided to prop up the MUBAREK DICTATORSHIP and regime for THIRTY TWO YEARS without ever demanding that they hold elections, (sound familiar to you?) doesnt matter where the idiot ANC exiles (supposedly)studied at because every white nation on this planet supported apartheid 100%! reagan was apartheid biggest supporter along with Thatcher! @alex marshall YOUR NUMBERS are a lie! the UN has documented over 30 000 murders during that time!

  • Garth - 2012-03-03 07:19

    All the anti-DA vitriol spewing forth, because a spokesman voiced a democratic opinion advising the useless, worthless anc to maintain a consistent posture on the world stage. It all comes to nought, we know, because the thieving racist ineptocracy listens to no one, not even their own ignorant supporters. But, for the DA to remain silent would be a crime against the brave people of Syria seeking freedom from an oppressive government. Surely, all the anti-white posts on this forum - fido, syphon, morona, etc. should take a long hard look at themselves and their stupid hypocrisy. You are supporting a dictator in the process of murdering thousands of innocents, because you focus on anything `white' or `west', or anything supported by these enemies of yours, as being your enemy. You are blind to the real story because of your racism and `anti-west' blinkers.

      Fidel - 2012-03-03 08:21

      Again Garth, you binary world view is nothing but intellectual laziness. Syrians are going to decide their own future without any outsiders telling them what to do. This is the principle I am fighting for, porkchop.

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