Defiant Cosatu also says no to e-tags

2012-10-03 21:17

Johannesburg - The public should not buy e-tags because Cosatu would strongly oppose the introduction of e-tolling, spokesperson Patrick Craven said on Wednesday.

"The federation rejects the argument for 'user-pays' for basic public services like our roads, and repeats its warning to the government not to even think about implementing e-tolls."

Craven took on Transport Minister Ben Martins for reportedly saying that consumers could go and buy their e-toll discs, as the department was busy concluding talks on the matter.

Martins should be aware that Cosatu and most residents of Gauteng were opposed to the tolls, Craven said.

A task team, set up by the Congress of SA Trade Unions and the African National Congress, was still investigating alternative funding means.

In addition, a court review of the e-tolling system would only take place next month.

"The minister's announcement appears to imply that the ongoing consultations and the court review are mere formalities and a public relations exercise, and that e-tolling will be going ahead anyway," Craven said.

The inter-ministerial committee on the Gauteng freeway improvement project said earlier that Gauteng motorists would know on Friday how e-tolling would be put into practice.

On Tuesday, the Freedom Front Plus said motorists should not, under any circumstances, buy e-tags.

"The fact is that the e-toll system is still not operational and that important legislation, which would make the paying of the e-tolls enforceable, is still outstanding," spokesperson Anton Alberts said.

Alberts said tariffs had not yet been published.

It was also important to note that the e-toll system's accounting system for non-holders of e-tags depended on the Administrative Adjudication of Road Traffic Offences (Aarto) Act, which was still not properly functioning.

"The majority of the notices and fines which are being issued in terms of Aarto, are not legal, such as the fines or notices which are being sent by ordinary post," he said.

"Therefore, payment notices for the use of the e-toll system by non-holders of e-tags will also be issued illegally and would be non-payable.

"For this reason... road users should not register for e-tags."

Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance spokesperson Wayne Duvenage said on Monday that the review hearing of the e-tolling system would still take place in November.

He said motorists should wait for more clarity on the issue before purchasing e-tolling discs.

  • rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-10-03 21:23

    don't buy e-tag, don't buy

      husaberg.twostroke - 2012-10-03 21:58

      Shows you how corrupt the ANC are. They want you to buy something thats not even approved yet. What a bunch of crooks.

      madoda.monamudi - 2012-10-03 22:12

      Like it or not at end of the day u will buy e-tag.

      kim.buren - 2012-10-03 22:34

      Not until hell freezes over Madoda

      sonia.bloem - 2012-10-04 08:47

      @Madoda, I will buy a e-tag when hell freezes over, when the sun burns out and when SA is without a doubt without any sort of corruption!!!!

      hamish.drake1 - 2012-10-04 10:13

      If Cosatu and the taxi industry stand with the rest of us, we have a chance to avoid this crap.

  • kim.buren - 2012-10-03 21:28

    So, I must be defiant too. FU

      Johan - 2012-10-04 10:08

      No Kim Dont be....Go and support the government. Help them to pocket more money...Maybe they will see what a good citizen you are and let you share in the gravy train. And then for the FU part ..... no thanks not even with your husbands ...

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-03 21:30

    Ring fence the tax on fuel. Stop the cANCer from stealing anymore money! Vote DA and do not buy an etag.

      ab.normal.961 - 2012-10-03 22:19

      Sad fact, but I agree the ANC will be in power forever. They will rather burn down the country than hand it over to anyone else. And people thought the Nationalist Party were power hungry.

      robes.spear - 2012-10-03 22:40

      The ANC will only remain in power if people dont unite. Vote any party but the ANC.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-04 10:01

      Lorain, yet you support corruption and a party that is just as racist in the policies they force down.

      denise.herbst.5 - 2012-10-04 10:02

      Madoda - If you continue to vote for the ANC in the face of their blatant corruption then you will get just what you deserve - good luck with that! Lorain, in case you missed it 90% of white people are racists, 90% of black people are racist, 90% of Indian people are racists, 90% of coloured people are racist. Does this mean your children don't deserve better then what's happening now?? IF there is a black/purple/green/pink political party in SA that could DELIVER services to the people and improve the lot of the poor South Africans then why would you not vote for them? I would vote for the ANC happily if they were doing a good job. They are not. But hey, lets all cut off our black nose to spite our face and not vote for a moderate, MULTI-RACIAL party because some racists support them. Yes - excellent plan for future generations!! One day you can tell your grand kids that the country might be ruined and only the ANC fatcats can afford bread and petrol but hey - at least they are starving and uneducated under a black government!

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-03 21:36

    Cosatu is PART of the trinity that makes up the current ANC government.

      JAbu.R15 - 2012-10-03 21:42

      my thought exactly! they were silent just before the whole thing was taken to court now they come with the noises again.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-03 22:16

      COSATU has zero credibility left in the job they're supposed to be doing, so these are just cute soundbites in a feeble attempt to mollify current subscribers. e-Tolls, Eishdom - issues they have NO say over in government. It's not a party that has a face on the ballots. Just another ploy to manipulate voters to keep The Alliance alive

  • JAbu.R15 - 2012-10-03 21:40

    When it comes to such issues, i have one philosy: Do not trust cosatu. they are broers with the ANC wait until they make an about turn on this whole thing!

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-03 22:24

      Like criticizing Juju and co for supporting an illegal strike, now Vavi and co are doing the same (supporting an illegal strike) talk about double standerts.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-04 08:06

      @ JABu I doubt that, they have lost enough credibility,they cannot take the chance of doing an about turn on this matter.

  • robes.spear - 2012-10-03 21:41

    The ANC is eating South Africa from the inside out. South Africa has been downgraded by the rating agencies due to their incompetence and corruption. We shall all be paying more for our fuel and basic services soon. Now they also want to tax us more. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - TAXPAYERS UNITE. They can stick their etag where the sun dont shine! The ANC's ancestors can only be hanging their heads in shame at what has become of a once fine party.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-03 21:42

    I recall vividly how Cosatu (by mouth of their big coward Vavi) told the country how Cosatu would fight the power increases demanded by Escom? That was about 3 to 4 years ago. What happened? When their members at Escom got their wage increases he (VAVI) fell silent.

  • peter.strydom.37 - 2012-10-03 21:46

    Not happy with the process, the gov not even considering the backlash - fools and horses!

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-10-03 22:01

    I feel sorry for the normal law abiding people that have no option but to use these toll roads daily . They will be the main "payers" in this project. Apart for the increase in fuel prices they will suddenly have +/- R 500 less spending money. Next will be the companies... they will simply increase their prices to cover costs. This will effect a lot more people. Those that do not abide by the law will not pay. Efforts by the e-toll company to recover these monies will cost more money, shrinking e-toll "profits" making the tolling a money wasting exercise. Some not abiding companies will even use this excuse to increase their prices. The above has been said over and over by thousands of people and organisations. Is SANRAL deaf or something?

  • zandile.mzelem - 2012-10-03 22:10

    I won't afford etolling im a breadwinner single mother salary programmed citizen of south africa I feel I have birth right to free use of my country's roads!

      madoda.monamudi - 2012-10-03 22:15

      I feel sorry for u but u will buy it at the end of the day.

      robes.spear - 2012-10-03 22:37

      The question is will you continue to vote for the ANC who are taking the food from our children's mouths.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-10-04 14:25

      @lorain you are truly ignorant and you are why a better SA for all will not be soon. So you would rather suffer than vote for someone who might improve your life and that of your family???? When are you going to realize that most of us and our children never wanted apartheid in the first place? When are you going to realize that we were also happy when Madiba was released? When are you going to get over your own issues and hatred? I hope soon otherwise I have no sympathy for you and you deserve all the suffering under the current government!

  • zandile.mzelem - 2012-10-03 22:10

    I won't afford etolling im a breadwinner single mother salary programmed citizen of south africa I feel I have birth right to free use of my country's roads!

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-03 22:19


  • Bafana Joseph - 2012-10-03 22:32

    Jacob Zuma's government sucks

  • pule.mothutsi - 2012-10-03 22:47

    The ANC just kissed my vote goodbye, and I hope every1 who id feeling the pressure can follow me

      Johan - 2012-10-04 10:13

      Yip Lorain...and you want to know why the average DA supporter on this forum make the comments like they do....Look at your comment referring to them as the enemy....May you survive the next 5 years under ANC rule with the greatest of suffering because that is what you cause your fellow countrymen by keeping them in power

  • aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-10-04 00:12

    I just wish they could have worked through all this debating - BEFORE they built those e-toll gates! No we have worthless structures dangeling over our highways, great way to throw money into the

  • peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-10-04 06:33

    Ag usual Cosatu's Mr Vavi only wants to get into the limelight to be seen as a "fighter' for the working class and now the motorist. Amazing how dead quite he was during the Marikana he has a big mouth after being re-elected.Keeping his fat salary and perks he must make a noise once in a while.Carrying a knobkierie leading the mob Mr Vavi is not exactly promoting a peaceful march.So by the way,what are you going to do about these murderers(or are these killers and maimers not your unions members?)....try and sort that out first and leave the toll for Outa who really represent the motorist.

  • petrus.ngwenya.3 - 2012-10-04 06:37

    Go Cosatu!! Now if only they would allow the DA to protest with them, and join forces, instead of trying to be heroes and do this on their own.

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-10-04 07:43

    It's easy, don't get tagged - be part of the good fight, and oppose etolling with everything you have. Freedom is not free, it has a high price. To those who chirping about COSATU, just remember that: the enemy of my enemy, is my friend. You kill the system easier from within. Support OUTA, they are really the only ones fighting the good fight, the rest are just noise makers at this stage.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-10-04 08:13

    It's nice to hear different politcal parties members talking with one voice oposing the e-tolls. Our fello SA's let us unite

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-10-04 08:16

    Let us not make this defient ANC, DA, IFP or any other organisation affiliation but let us rally as South African and fight this together - united we stand and we need to be united right now

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-04 10:03

      Tsepo but the ANC started all of this.

  • Hemlock - 2012-10-04 08:22

    Buying an e-tag is never and will never be on my bucket list!

  • norman.lewis.716 - 2012-10-04 08:37

    I really am hoping that the e-tolls never takes off. If it does, it is only a matter of time before it spreads to the rest of the country. And I really oppose the matter due to the struggle for most SA citizen just to get by each month, thanks to raising fuel & food costs.

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