Defiant Malema to continue 'revolution'

2012-10-08 22:21

Johannesburg - Expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema will address mineworkers at the Meloding Stadium in Virginia, in the Free State, on Tuesday, the Friends of the Youth League (FYL) said.

In a statement the FYL, also known as the Economic Freedom Fighters, said the workers had invited Malema and members of the organisation to speak to them.

"This is unashamedly part of the mining revolution which will make all mines ungovernable until mine bosses have agreed to a minimum wage of R12 500 per month for all mineworkers and ultimately nationalisation of mines," it said.

Several weeks ago Malema spoke to mineworkers at several mines in support of their strike, and called for a national strike by mineworkers for at least four days a month until their salaries improved.

When he tried to speak at a mine near Rustenburg, police stopped him and escorted him from the North West town. He has not spoken publicly to miners since then.

The Hawks are investigating Malema after trade union Solidarity filed criminal charges of incitement to violence and intimidation against him.

This was following comments he made to striking mine workers urging them to make the mines "ungovernable".

Last month, Malema was granted R10 000 bail by the Polokwane Regional Court, where he appeared on a charge of money laundering.

Hawks spokesperson McIntosh Polela has said Malema could face a 15 year prison sentence if convicted.

The charge relates to a R52m tender awarded to On-Point engineers.

On-Point allegedly secured the tender fraudulently, and Malema is accused of benefiting from it.

According to court papers, deposits were made into Malema's Ratanang Family Trust to fund a farm and make payments for a luxury car.

Meanwhile, representatives of Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) in Limpopo will address striking workers at the Anglo Platinum mine in Amanda Belt on Tuesday.

Provincial secretary Dan Sebabi said representatives of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) would join Cosatu at 07:00 on Tuesday.

On Saturday, the NUM said the mine planned to dismiss 8 000 workers at the mine after firing 12 000 illegally striking workers at its Rustenburg mine.

NUM secretary general Frans Baleni reportedly said striking workers at Amanda Belt could also face dismissals after joining an illegal strike.

  • aniken.vader.31 - 2012-10-08 22:27

    so - a revolution in malema's mind is about getting higher wages? I thought a revolution is about CHANGE! And as such what would he change if not the government - which in turn is called a coup d'etat! TRAITOR!

      loki.scribus - 2012-10-09 00:40

      @Thandiwe - the irony is that he'll ruin the lives of everyone except the rich. Striking miners make the prices of fuel and groceries go up. If this carries on, there'll be a lot more poor, and the very rich - bye bye middle class. What I want to know is what people expect from nationaliastion. It's not as if they'll get money from it - in fact, if one mine makes R1bn in a year, and that money is divided among the SA population, it's R20 per person. It won't bring prices down - it'll just keep them from rising a bit longer. What is the benefit of nationalisation?

      nicky.saaiman.1 - 2012-10-09 05:29

      Will you see him in power. Maybe you will have to die for him. I know honesty is not a strong point in this country. Are you telling others they are racists not the biggest of them all. Not all pigs are white.

      walter.o.latham - 2012-10-09 06:08

      Not only that, Thandiwe, the rand will nosedive and just think of what THAT will do to the price of fuel for one. Contrary to what one comment was, "That Malema was a careful and talented strategist...." Well that shows a bit of admiration. No ways, he's a first class idiot who only impresses the poor and underprivileged, PLUS other idiots - including many members of the ANC. Vote DA or SA will become a political quagmire.

      darren.raath.5 - 2012-10-09 06:18

      at loki. you are wrong about each person getting R20 from nationalization. nationalization does not work like that.the money goes to the government and we all know who benefits from that.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-09 08:03

      Sganja, you fool, by the time your hero is finished the mine workers will need a lot more than R 12,500.00 to survive on, their actions, fuelled by their despot hero, will cause massive inflation, huge unemployment, deaths, and will in general further cripple this economy, WELL DONE.

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-10-09 08:17

      What nationalisation does in a corrupt society like ours is make a few fat cats rich. Safety and productivity will drop, along with profits. Projects begin to lose money and are asset stripped (I refer you to Aurora). The industry dies, unemployment goes up and poverty increases. Have a look at what happened to the DRC copper industry during nationalisation. The country should have blossomed (if you believe the marxist doctrine) but it didnt because none of the wealth was distributed, it was looted by the priveleged few. The complete opposite happened, the industry died and is only now beginning to get back on its feet, with massive foreign investment.

      Dan - 2012-10-09 08:49

      At the rate the rand is falling, the only change will be a very bleak future for everyone, stop this fool and his cronies before it is to late!!

      grant.stockdale - 2012-10-09 08:57

      During the African Spring of Libya and Egypt the people became loud and the Government quiet !! Do you see the similarity ?

      johan.fourie.566 - 2012-10-09 10:07 can ignore the idiot if the masses wil do the same...At this stage they have the voting power and they are voting for him. The only way to ignore him is to shut him up (anyway you like). If not prepare to suffer with the people because that is the way the country is going and we cannot stop it not with the pen.

      ed.gutsche - 2012-10-09 11:00

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-10-09 13:59

      "He must not be allowed near power - he will ruin the lives of the poor.. " The majority is always right, and if he is elected, the poor deserve to starve to death. Roll on Africa

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-10-09 15:11

      @Loki; Read this article it is written by a former communist who became a capitalist who then earned a PhD. in economics. It's about redistribution in America but the principles of redistribution and nationalization are very similar and in the final analysis they never work in the long term. @Thandiwe83; No Julius isn't a retard. Would agree with Delusionbuster, he isn't stupid. I would go as far to say that he is either very intelligent himself or has someone handling him that is. He is playing to a population group which is the largest in SA, the young uneducated, unemployed/underemployed. Some of them never knew apartheid and all they have seen is what the ANC has done. Thus they have little loyalty to the ANC. I believe that at last count they are about 20 million strong. Julius or who ever is handling him have been very careful to stay on point. Mineral resources belong to the people (still in ANC at that point) Nationalization should be a discussion (still in ANC). Need economic revolution, shoot the boer, (just about out of ANC) The struggle isn't finished we need to take the farms the banks and the mines (now out of ANC) Then the Lonmin mine exploded and Julius finally had his platform. Now the discussions of nationalization will take place in earnest because the threat of 12,000 miners turning violent and leaving the police and possibly the army with no choice but to shoot to disperse, continued

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-10-09 15:19

      continued; No Julius is very carefully working to make himself head of SA. He is building his base and it seems that he is willing to use violence to force the governments hand and get the nationalization he wants. But please read the article in my earlier post. Have actually said the same thing on this site before with regards to nationalization. In democracies the idea of nationalization has to be discussed unlike a dictatorship where things are just seized, that discussion has been taking place for 2 years and so the people with the "means of production" have time to move their assests away from those who would seize them. And what is worse, the "human capital" those who know how to create businesses and jobs also leave in large numbers. And what is more the rest of the world is willing to accept SA's castoffs. Just look at the US and Soviet Union after that bloody hateful war with germany, there was a race to get their scientists and take them happily back to the US or Russia and pay them hugh salaries to create rockets and bombs. SA's engineers, doctors, scientist will be just as prized. Remember it was SA that did the first heart transplant, there are very skilled people in SA. But you can't BEE skills and knowledge. Julius unless stopped may very well spell disaster in SA

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-10-09 15:46

      Can someone please give an indication of what average profit margins the mines are making? That can give an indication if the miners demands are justified or not.

      kingdom.ndlovu.1 - 2012-10-09 16:00

      the heading of this story should of been, '' Defiant Malema to continue evolving'' cause he clearly seems to be stuck in evolution this prehistoric neanderthal.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-10-09 16:02

      VOTE DA! End of Story! Someone shoot this moron already and get it over with. For goodness sakes! How much longer are Government going to allow this fool to run wild in our country, causing havoc and breaking unity and peace and love! This fool Malema, must be put down! Or this country will be the next Zim in a few short years! Just you wait and see! The people of this country prefer to ignore the truth instead of getting together and putting an end to this poo once and for all!

      loki.scribus - 2012-10-09 16:48

      @edward.patterson.923 Thanks - that is a very good article and explains the principle of redistribution quite well.

      baldersnatch - 2012-10-09 17:11

      thousand rand increases > small change I think that's the logic..

      logical007 - 2012-10-09 18:14

      Just look at SAA - Thats a 'real deal'????? Privatize that and watch that company FLY!!! If the Malema demands these stupid wages - more miners will be fired, increases unemployment rate!! Malema needs to be Fired at not just fired!

  • asdhasgd - 2012-10-08 22:37

    "until mine bosses have agreed to a minimum wage of R12 500 per month for all mineworkers and ultimately nationalisation of mines," it said." So malema...if you get the mineworkers their salary demand, and then you get the government to nationalise the mines, THE MINEWORKERS WILL BE OUT OF JOBS!! HOW STOOOOOOOOOOOPID ARE YOU BRO????

      kim.buren - 2012-10-08 22:41

      Do you really want someone to ask that question? Can we refer to his matric results?

      asdhasgd - 2012-10-09 08:52

      I dont think he even got as far as matric kim.

      heathway.master - 2012-10-09 15:18

      Desperately hope the mines do not buckle in to the Labour Unions, and do not hire a single fired miner. Let them then decide which is preferable. Having a job or not having a job. Malema must be charged with incitement to violence, and kept in prison for an extended period before bail is granted. He can than work out what wooden furniture he will need to bang together to make his cell more comfortable for his longer 15 year stay.

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-10-09 15:34

      No with nationalization will come more jobs, not because there is more work but because the government will put 2 people to do what one did before thus lovwering unemployment, but because the output of the mine is still the same they will have to lower the wages of the workers or print more money making the effective buying power of the Rand that much less, causing inflation ect ect ect. Nationalization has never ever ever worked in the long run for any country. I'm calling Julius out; show me how this will work.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-08 22:41

    He thinks because KM said he shouldn't have been expelled that he is in with a chance if KM becomes president. Bad luck boy, JZ has the power and will see to it that you go to jail, penniless. The cost of having a big mouth and no brains.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-10-09 07:34

      He is single handedly destroying our economy. When will someone stop this terrorist?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-09 07:51

      What i wanna know is , He is adressing the miners in his capacity as what exaclty?

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-10-08 23:02

    Yea "Liberation before education" Can only make sence to the uneducated..

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-10-09 06:06

      Indeed; you cannot liberate yourself without education - this is why it makes no sense to the uneducated oppressed. Of course, the ANC is doing a right job of ensuring that most people will stay oppressed by screwing up education.

      alfred.neumann.142 - 2012-10-09 07:57

      @sikhangeleni, being employed and earning a low wage when you're unskilled is not oppression. Since when did employment become a right? It ain't. And quite frankly, unless you have a skill that separates you from the crowd of manual labourers you aren't that special at all. Come now, surely you don't need a degree to see that.

  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-10-08 23:09

    So this little twit is happy to continue to wreck the economy of this country in the name of his personal fame and fortune. And the idle ANC just sit and watch it happen.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-10-09 10:02

      The impotence of JZ and his government can no longer be talked away.

  • phumlani.veliti - 2012-10-08 23:16

    Signs of Civil War. The clock is ticking...

      nicky.saaiman.1 - 2012-10-09 05:05

      Ja unfortunately the fat and corrupt won't fight. Other will die for them.

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-10-09 08:19

      Between who exactly?

  • paulrgonsalves - 2012-10-08 23:20

    News 24 how much does FYL pay you to keep Malema trending?? there is nothing new to report except to promote their upcoming opportunistic meeting- 95% of this article is cut and paste from previous articles. So please Mr Editor post news, not promo's.

  • Notrax123 - 2012-10-08 23:27

    @ News24, please stop reporting only on stories that make this anarchist look like a hero. He is getting what he deserves, report on that. Another story that did not fit your profiling of this person: Julius Malema's assets have reportedly been attached by a sheriff of the court for failing to pay R16 million in taxes. The Sunday Independent says assets have been seized at Malema's homes in Flora Park, Polokwane and his Sandown home in Johannesburg. It is not clear whether the seized assets include things like cars and household content, but the attachment process enables the sheriff to value assets and prevent Malema from selling them. The newspaper reports that the South African Revenue Service (Sars) obtained a court judgment against Malema for being in arrears with his taxes amounting to millions of Rands. In September, Limpopo businessman Lesiba Gwangwa, who is a close Malema ally, had his assets seized due to unpaid taxes. Meanwhile, Malema is due back in court in November after being charged with corruption alongside four others including Gwangwa. Malema denies any wrongdoing. He believes the charges against him are politically motivated as he has been critical of President Jacob Zuma. Malema wants Zuma replaced as ANC president in December. Malema is no longer an ANC member after he was expelled from the party in April.

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-09 00:29

      @Glen. And replace it with another thieving government? Why would the next government be any better?

      loading123 - 2012-10-09 07:22

      Aaaah ha ha ha, he called him a hero?! He's going to destroy your life if he gets the chance. I know of another 'hero'. His name is Robert Mugabe.

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-09 09:14

      @ Joe Lighten up.... Juju is doing South Africa a favor, he is cutting down the ANC faster than the entire opposition put together. Wake the deed... then vote DA

  • thozi - 2012-10-08 23:55

    I give up. Let Mr Malema lead all his zealous and ardent supporters in the destruction of our country. They will not be starting from the scratch anyway...their comrades are already at it... heard about the SAA?

  • jomar.delange - 2012-10-09 00:14

    How weak is this government?

  • lekkeperd.chevyss - 2012-10-09 00:22

    Shoot him please

  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-09 00:31

    Eish, the man is back. Being having lunch for a few days?

  • tebogo.makaneta - 2012-10-09 00:32

    How much capital are the miners making each day by their labour? We tend to forget the time we were jobless and we start to demand more. Some University graduates don't even get that much. Let's not compare ourselves with the people who went an extra mile this is South Africa.

  • kwagga - 2012-10-09 00:56

    Bring in the troops ja ja ja

  • vivetioustash - 2012-10-09 01:15

    Eish hw many days r left b4 malema turn south africa into zimbabwe.....i dnt lyk hm personaly.

  • EricksonTL - 2012-10-09 02:11

    May I suggest an edit to the headline? 'Deviant Malema promises to continue his devolution'

  • dan.ledwaba.5 - 2012-10-09 02:20

    It seems that this friends of the yl will do anything to make a dead horse walk. I suppose without malema they are nothing.

  • Sprinkler47 - 2012-10-09 05:33

    Amanda Belt? You must mean Amandelbult? Bad journalism and editing.

      helio.paulo.7 - 2012-10-09 07:11

      Absolutely....NEWS24 journalists probably only have Std6 and failed woodwork as well!!!

  • B.b. - 2012-10-09 05:48

    Under what capacity? I would like to know about the organization that he is representing that is responsible for negotiating for workers,,, - 2012-10-09 07:38

      fyl ,economic freedom fighters

  • B.b. - 2012-10-09 06:17


      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-10-09 06:54

      You pay your own rent, so does Koos, and so does Bill, so does I and I. But I know that in this economic life, less than 50000 a year for a miner is an insult. I say pay them enough so they don't have to stay in the hostels, like varkies, verstaan jy, bobbie???

      B.b. - 2012-10-09 16:51

      Ek is so jammer @Ratsaka, Ek het gedink jy verstaan betekenis van ekonomiese vryheid. Economic freedom refers to freedom to prosper within a country without intervention from the government. I hope u understand the meaning quite well,,,unless u r under the influence of substance....

  • Nkosinathi.Sibbs - 2012-10-09 06:21

    ANC hijacked by a jackal

      michil.chegwidden - 2012-10-09 21:15

      Zuma is it, boneless

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-10-09 06:27

    Why don't the ANC show some gumption and put Malema into solitary confinement for fifty years? - Kathy

      rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-10-09 07:00

      For wich charge if i may ask?

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-09 08:29

      ronald, pick any one of many, corruption, non payment of tax, inciting violence, must I go on, have you ever read the news, or are you one of the blind ones.

  • Tim Elliott - 2012-10-09 06:36

    What this complete and utter dimwit hasn't yet understood is that 'ungovernable' and 'nationalisation' means economic meltdown and huge job losses.Who will he and the shrieking masses then blame...White capital?It is classic stuff...someone builds and creates wealth and then complete idiots simply destroy it in the name of some ridiculous ideology

  • thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-10-09 06:40

    like father like son. ROBET MUGABE JUNIOR.

  • johnwilliam.roberts - 2012-10-09 06:45

    boring tired of hearing about a fat slug .

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-10-09 06:52

    Is this idiot an idiot or what , cant he see that all the govt run institutions are failing from the municipalities to the provinces and SAA , is he not able to see these failures or is he just making populist statements to garner support for his political career . Remember Zuma was going to be the saviour if he became president and we all know how successful his been .

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-09 06:57

    The only people who will suffer in the end are the ordinary people that he speaks to now, they will be there own demise by following this fool. Like the afrikaans saying goes "meng met die semel en die varke vreet jou op"

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-09 07:07

    My advice to mining companies, pack it in, close down until they reach their senses. You will not win until these people feel it the hard way. Let Malema support them, he has lots of money that he was supposed to ge in aid of the poor, he can use that money now to keep all the miners and their families in food. Just close the mines until south africa gets a grip on it self.

  • - 2012-10-09 07:11

    He knows his got a very unstable environment to work with here. the only revolution is to keep himself out of jail by trying to get back his power.

  • Robert Frankol - 2012-10-09 07:31

    How many times must one flush before this turd goes away?

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-10-09 14:45

      How can a turd ask about flushing a turd?

  • deon.meiring - 2012-10-09 07:34

    Yes, nasionalize the mines, and up the minimum salaries to Whatever they want! These people want to have the same as their brothers north of SA! We are going to end up worse than Zim. Beleive me...they will blame either the whites or apartheid when that happens.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-09 08:32

      Bazooka, people in glass houses comes to mind when I read your dribble, oh and your racist tendencies are showing through. - 2012-10-09 11:07

      yoh, you can say that to my face bro?? *godly mistake*

  • david.lerato3 - 2012-10-09 07:36

    Julius is right, is high tym to fight for living wages, we are tired of getting peanuts.

      Pontsho - 2012-10-09 07:47

      Ducthez nationalizd with out negotiatin,histry mst jst reapet itclf if our own won't get wht the need,doin it strategicaly won't work.

      hein.boucher - 2012-10-09 07:49

      VIVA! "yelled the man into his blackberry, sitting in his black BMW, slightly adjusting his Rolex watch, as it was starting to scuff his Armani suit!"

      dan.ledwaba.5 - 2012-10-09 10:10

      Pontsho, so you are also a thief then, unable to work for your own money. You are lazy. Do you think if they nationalize that you will get 1c of that are a lazy thinker too.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-10-09 07:38

    But due to the rain - the meeting has been cancelled.

  • gert.swart.393 - 2012-10-09 07:39

    Malema will be better than Zuma. Zuma is looting the state's coffers to buy his support! Viva Malema!

      PAP - 2012-10-09 23:53

      And you are a graduate of the 35% Matric Passing Mark Class of SA.

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-10-09 07:45

    Amanda Belt !?!?!? Where the hell did this reporter get their degree and more importantly - WHERE ARE THE GODDAM EDITORS ??? It`s AMANDELBULT. FFS.

  • Sean O'Brien Snr - 2012-10-09 07:45

    Bwahahahaha! Amanda Belt! WTF!? Journo, why don't you try Amandelbult rather!? piss poor journalism as usual.

  • chris.flack.750 - 2012-10-09 07:46

    One "unsettler", one bullet.

  • rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-10-09 07:48

    Malema is hated 4being a good samaritan 2 the miners

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-10-09 08:23

      No he is hated because he is a small minded child , a hateful little bigot who does not understand the concept of economics.

      nicky.saaiman.1 - 2012-10-09 08:28

      Good honest poor Samaritan.

      dan.ledwaba.5 - 2012-10-09 10:12

      I can just laugh at this statement, Ronald. Samaritan, Malema!...hahaha.

  • toni.falletisch - 2012-10-09 07:49

    Give us more rope to hang you with Fatboy!

  • jakobus.thulasizwe - 2012-10-09 07:49

    Our President is back in full force. Viva President Malema viva ! Igwala kulonina!

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-09 08:36

      Not for long, the Hawks have him by the short and curly's, he's gonna be doing some down time soon soon.

  • trevor.bailet - 2012-10-09 07:53

    what'a with the nationalisation of the mines? its a dying industry. juju should be trying to nationalise big liquor and tobacco so that govt incompetence can finally be put to good use.

  • emphatic.darksorrow - 2012-10-09 07:57

    How is this guy still allowed to influence modern day politics?

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-10-09 14:49

      He is relevant to many.

  • hein.boucher - 2012-10-09 07:59

    Crimes against the state and community: "High treason consists in any overt act committed by a person owing allegiance to a state possessing majestas with intent unlawfully to overthrow, impair, violate, threaten or endanger the existence, independence or security of state, or to overthrow or coerce the government of the state, or change the constitutional structure of the state." I do believe we have a winner for this infringement?

      nicky.saaiman.1 - 2012-10-09 08:19

      Plenty of winners in This country. Time they get their price.

  • peter.mokoena.31 - 2012-10-09 08:03

    Malema is a loose cannon, his expulsion from the ANC has destabilized the country in the form of Economic Freedom, for him is in a way to tell Zuma that I will cause chaos in the country u are governing. The stage is set, and for Zuma is what can I do with these turd. Chickens are coming home to roast.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-09 08:40

      Err chickens come home to roost, if they knew they were going to be roasted they wouldn't come home, they are not as stupid as some of the Fat boy supporters on here.

      mohalemj - 2012-10-09 16:37

      U hav no point.

      mukuvhi - 2012-10-09 19:08


  • joan.richmond.31392 - 2012-10-09 08:07

    hahahahahaha, sometimes i wonder why God wasted his great talent in creating brainless folk like these, hahahahaha i cant believe the stupidity

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-10-09 08:12

    Anyone who says nationalisation of mines and economic freedom in the same sentence really needs their head examined. Nationalisation will kill the industry stone dead, and increase unemployment and poverty, A few fat cats will make a killing in the process of course.

  • ivan.goodman.77 - 2012-10-09 08:21

    Some people are going to have sleepless nights again, he is just checking if things are going according to plan. Who said he can't bring SA to a stand still ? Mine strike,freight strike,ports strike,public service strike looming. Even if u not striking you are still going to stay home unless you own a horse or use your broom. Tanks are running dry.

  • glen.clark.37669 - 2012-10-09 08:40

    Not much good if they get the R12500-00 but the mines have to put half of the miners back on the streets to make the mines economical. Malema will just look at them and say "sorry, at least I tried Comrades" and then go back to his Sandton house to plan his next cause! Was it Caesar who said "will no-one rid me of this man?" If there is one cancer that needs to be cut out, it is him!!!

  • mveloemveloe - 2012-10-09 08:43

    Ths country n pplu wld benefit n prosper if ther we're month open minDs than month open mouths. Nt whn evrytym sum pplu open their mouths, a strong stentch cumz out

      hein.boucher - 2012-10-09 08:59

      ...lolz whut?

  • samuel.thomas.3538 - 2012-10-09 08:52

    the whole thing is to deem Zuma incompetent.Marikana gave d anti-Zuma faction an idea on wat to work on,n d apparatus used,Malema.d boy is doing his job,where is d Rand today,down there n going.unfortunately,Zuma wl emerge victorious,n heads will roll come 2013.wisely,Motlanthe is seemingly distancing himself frm d faction to save himself frm embarrasment