Disciplinary used to settle scores - ANCYL

2012-01-27 10:40

Johannesburg - A leaked e-mail has led the ANC Youth League to accuse its parent body of using disciplinary procedures to settle political scores, reports said on Friday.

The Mail & Guardian said this came after it was revealed at a disciplinary appeals committee this week that ANC "chief prosecutor" Uriel Abrahamse wrote an e-mail to his deputy, advocate Nomazotsho Memani, suggesting that the appeals should be heard before the ANC's centenary celebrations.

This was to prevent suspended league top officials at the centre of the appeals, who include league president Julius Malema, from sharing a stage with ANC president Jacob Zuma at the January 8 event.

'All sorts of shenanigans'

Abrahamse reportedly wrote that the ANC had received information that Malema and his supporters were "busy with all sorts of shenanigans".

"They are busy printing T-shirts for January 8, which carry the slogan 'Kgalema for president'" and "they are trying to mobilise the ANCYL structures through the country in support of this campaign".

The league wants the committee, chaired by national executive committee member Cyril Ramaphosa, to overturn the suspensions because of political interference.

They wrote to ANC secretary Gwede Mantashe saying: "...Section 25.2 of the ANC constitution forbids disciplinary actions that are meant to settle political scores or with intentions to stifle debate in the [ANC]."

In the letter, written by league deputy president Ronald Lamola, they also want Abrahamse removed from the hearings.

Malema, Lamola, league treasurer Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi and spokesperson Floyd Shivambu were suspended for party offences, which include threatening to support regime change in Botswana.

  • Gustaf - 2012-01-27 10:44

    Why is that a surprise, it's a street fight...

      Felix - 2012-01-27 10:58

      Bobgarbage probably got commission.

      Kacee - 2012-01-27 11:11

      This is stupid, the letter was to speed up the proceedings, not to give a verdict. Do they honestly think the ANC would like to share the stage with them, and then they get fired after, that would be even more embarrassing.

      pdilapiso - 2012-01-27 12:24

      the Anc is been used by the South African media to please the dark force that is against radical changes in our political landscape,economic policies & economical liberation(emancipation).ANC knows that the media is not for nation-building but for distraction of peace in the world..Citypress was received full financial support from the previous regime,CityPress,News24,&the rest subscribe to the same ideologies of brining this black led government down!their sensational reporting has caused the ANC to suspend Julius Malema & other ANCYL members...this is irresponsible & fabrication of issues in our society"“While it was always difficult in practice, once upon a time journalists at least paid obeisance to the idea of reporting the facts, as opposed to commenting on “narratives”…Let alone being responsible for creating and debunking them." ANC must learn not to trust South African media..they bring NO knowledge but sensationalise matter for profits!the SA media is rotten to the core..ANC is suffering today because they failed to transformed the root of apartheid(judicial system, force, police& the media).people should realise this things i've metioned:the media is not objective and is not for buplic interest:falsification of media reporting has caused the 2003 war in Iraq,the death of Khaddafi: WE need interlactual ANC Leadership to run this country,contrary to what is currently happening in our country, where the current leadership is acting upon what the media is alluding!

  • ubhejane - 2012-01-27 10:46

    Enough of hearing about the infighting. Tell us if he suspended or not! Don't want to hear about their e-mails!!!!!

  • lourence.manyama - 2012-01-27 10:46

    It was obvious

      Werner - 2012-01-27 10:49

      The only obvious thing here is that the ANCYL and the ANC are now behaving themselves like two rival school gangs, bickering and shouting, while the rest of the school is getting an education and moving on with their lives.

  • Werner - 2012-01-27 10:46

    The really sad thing is that this 'evidence' could constitute one of those lousy and annoying technicalities that usually overturn judgements. Sigh.

  • Steven - 2012-01-27 10:48

    how old is Uriel Abrahamse? doesn't he know that e-mails can be hacked...? idiot!

  • Shirley - 2012-01-27 10:50

    Ancyl need to go back to school and learn the difference between blatant disruptive behaviour and political differences! Maybe the teachers who got "free" pay can help!

  • Bigwolf - 2012-01-27 10:52

    Who is in charge? Yet it scares me that they the ANCYL do not see the fact that they are in the wrong. What a shambles every one wants the power for financial gain but not one of them have the country and its people first at heart.

  • Mike - 2012-01-27 10:55

    And the gloves are off again... let's get the popcorn... live entertainment a la Days of our Lives home brewed by the African National Circus...

      ubhejane - 2012-01-27 11:52

      When will they air the episode where Floydine drags Julius Ceaser to bed? Can't wait for that one. I can just see her in her seductive Italian silk robe, draping herself over the Ruler and stroking his tummy saying: "The Empire is now ours".............

  • Bryan - 2012-01-27 10:56

    More yada yada... less ching ching!! Bunch of idiots.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-27 11:54

      LOL LOL You are right about the ching ching being less. They have stolen all the ching ching!

  • MrGuyT - 2012-01-27 11:01

    malema thinks he is the only one allowed to fight dirty. Screw the little racist. Lets just move along and let him become another failed farmer stupid Ahole

  • Phumi - 2012-01-27 11:02

    There is a a media black out on these disciplinary hearings so we cannot take anything from News 24 seriously! These are just speculation to boost your ever failing ratings!

      Gustaf - 2012-01-27 11:05

      the only rating that are in free fall - the " Aint No Consquence" party's !!

      Snoopsy - 2012-01-27 11:15

      Falcon2020, I totally love the Name! Aint No Consequence or should it be: Aint No Conscience

      dlawre30 - 2012-01-27 11:24

      So what are you doing on this site?

  • Tommy - 2012-01-27 11:05

    You don't say...

  • LouisC - 2012-01-27 11:18

    I fail to see how this email can be seen as indicating what the ANCYL is proposing? Am I missing something?

      ubhejane - 2012-01-27 11:46

      No Louise, you are missing nothing. Don't worry. The ANC can't even run their internal structures, let alone the country.

  • weareu - 2012-01-27 11:19

    aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaa there's no fight here. The ANC is the ANC the YL is nothing to it. If these guys continue to make a mockery of the ANC they should just be fully shut down.

      Ben - 2012-01-27 11:39

      Could it perhaps be that the A.N.C. is scared of the Y.L.? Malema does not seem to be scared of them.

  • Danny - 2012-01-27 11:37

    The irony of Malema and the ANCYL crying foul play

  • Simon Metrowich - 2012-01-27 11:37

    As a nonracist and proud South African the ancyl should be run by the youth (20yrs to 30yrs)not older and someone that wants S.A to move forward not live in the past,the ANC should grow up you running a county and no a circus or your household.So grow up and stop been like the desperate house wife or gossip girls grow up u got an obligation to the poeple of S.A and there needs!

  • Sinudeity - 2012-01-27 11:45

    Who cares? Lets wait for the criminal investigation. Thats the reall juju-killer.

      Alfred Neumann - 2012-01-27 12:04

      Exactly, no one will give half a toss whether he's suspended or not when he's serving 15 to 20. Besides, the idea of the ANC lecturing anyone on 'discipline' is a facepalm inducing fail all on its own anyway.

  • molaodid - 2012-01-27 11:52

    I think Sello Malema, is becoming powerful, I underestimated him, He is a force.I don't agree with some of his claims, that He represents the poor.I think "nothing is for the poor without the poor" . But He is correct, they play the the normal game which was introduced, prior Polokwane.I am just worried about Langa.. Dube's organisation.

  • Trevor - 2012-01-27 11:53

    How old do you have to be to "graduate" from the ANCYL to the ANC??? That would be the easiet thing, set and age limit of 25 then the Malema issue is sorted, he will not longer be President and he'll have to bow to the Old Boys in the ANC, right now this fat bald idiot is acting like a spoilt brat yet, he's over 30?????????????

  • entjana - 2012-01-27 11:55

    Garbage garbage garbage

  • Mashudu - 2012-01-27 11:56

    Enough of Cat fights.. we want to hear the verdict.

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-01-27 12:07

    What a sad day for a party of the stature of the ANC that their leaders of today, cannot trust the leaders of tomorrow. No succession can take place. No nurturing or transfer of ideals. No history can be shared. No future can be expected.

  • Papikie - 2012-01-27 12:13

    It is true that some members of the NEC, who are against the ANCYL Conference resolution are using the DC to settle the score. Members of the ANC NEC must stand gainst this. The ANCYL has its right to take conference resolutions forward and work on the implementation part. But as the ANCYL has to implement, people like Gigaba and Shabangu respond to the ANCYL conference resolutions on Government activity and when they ANCYL respond, they are charged. Why didn't they wait for the NEC meeting and speak those matters of Nationalisation and land. They are wrong, they should have not used Govt platform to lash the ANCYL conference resolutions. Some of them are protecting their jobs so that they could buy expensive flowers for their girl friends. Come December in Mangaung, some of them we will forget that they ever lead the ANCYL

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