Dlamini: Expose ANC demagogues

2011-06-27 13:47

Midrand - Demogogues in the ANC-alliance must be exposed and isolated, Cosatu president Sdumo Dlamini said on Monday.

"... [The Congress of SA Trade Union (Cosatu) and the SA Communist Party (SACP) should] train our people to detect demagogues wherever they raise their ugly head," he said at Cosatu's central committee meeting in Midrand.

Demagogues are political leaders who appeal to popular desires and prejudices rather than seeking support through rational argument.

They "shouted the same slogans" and "wore the same colours" as the rest of the alliance, he said. Those most vulnerable to their exploitation were the poor.

At a bilateral meeting last week, Cosatu and the SACP resolved to "close ranks" against what they called the "right-wing demagogic populist mobilisation" apparent in South Africa.

No debate

They said they were referring to a "tendency", caused by the capitalist system, which could be found within the ANC Youth League (ANCYL) and internationally.

Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi has ruled out the possibility of debate at the meeting on the ANC's 2012 succession.

However, Dlamini said that while Cosatu respected this, it had in the past pronounced on its leadership preferences at its central committee meeting.

In 2007, Cosatu's central committee announced its preference for President Jacob Zuma in his leadership battle with the then president Thabo Mbeki.

Dlamini said circumstances at that time had called for the announcement.

He called on the central committee to assess the current situation and determine whether there were "any similar circumstances" to make it necessary to pronounce on the issue.

  • IQ - 2011-06-27 13:57

    Juliius - a demagogue! He will think this is a "status compliment"! Until someone explains the meaning thereof to him in a week or twos time.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-06-27 14:04

      They'll need to use short, easy to understand words and a big coloured chart.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-27 14:15

      lol... yeah, some of dem-a-gogue & some of dem-a-rogue..

      James - 2011-06-27 14:17

      Haha! Nice!

      Jacques Jones - 2011-06-27 14:28

      If you tell julius that he is a demagogue he will most probably think he is a demigod

      Thembisile - 2011-06-27 14:32

      I wonder where do politicians get such fancy words.

      Eric West - 2011-06-27 15:34

      @ Jacques Jones - LMFAO!!! Every month brings a new buzzword - moving forward - turnaround strategy - tendency - and so on. LOL!

      Jacques Jones - 2011-06-27 16:05

      @Eric so true bud

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  • Lawence - 2011-06-27 14:17

    'Demagogue tendencies', the new fashionable word for the SA

      Ozymandios - 2011-06-27 14:51

      Accompanied with a Breitling watch and an Aston Martin DB9.

  • Dal68 - 2011-06-27 14:21

    "A political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument" How in the world would we be able to see someone like this in SA, let alone expose such a person.....eish!

  • Jacques Jones - 2011-06-27 14:26

    infighting in the tripartheid alliance will soon become very ugly

      Dal68 - 2011-06-27 14:33


      Rover_ZA - 2011-06-27 14:43

      It makes for a very interesting period though.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-27 14:49

      not tripartheid but Tripartite - means composed of or split into three parts, or refers to three parties.... an error common amongst us South Africans..:)

      cerveza - 2011-06-27 15:05

      @Currymafia - I think it the Apartheid tendencies of this Tripartite that often makes people assume they must be a Tripartheid, meaning 3 separate organisations, one party to implement "Apartheid style" laws, one to object and give people hope and one to do or say something stupid to distract the people while the 1st one makes there move

      Eric West - 2011-06-27 15:36

      @ cerveza -EXACTLY!

  • jaycee - 2011-06-27 14:30

    I haven't yet seen the SACP using rational argument. It seems this "closing ranks" is aimed at people and not method. Typical of these left-wing demagogues. Both they and the so-called right-wing lot is something SA does not need. We need true rational thinkers.

      cmtha - 2011-06-27 14:39

      I try but cannot follow what you are saying....

  • maseratifitt - 2011-06-27 14:31

    This is a sensible approach.

  • GerhardZA_BE - 2011-06-27 14:34

    This is the obvious result of hidden communism, what I cannot understand is why we the people cannot stand up for ourselves, what we would need to do is just defend even 1 person with no fear, morals and common decency to speak out, to let the people realise their potential and power, if they would all stand together they could within days destroy the corrupt ANC goverment and elect their own leaders, everyone has the ability to sense real leadership and ability, it is only our unnatural fear of death that inhibits action, in stead of freezing up and waiting for someone else to do the fighting, every man must stand up to protect our children and future generations from a world that is giving power to the mindless and hatefull, this so that the driving party, the big businesses of the world who desperately protect their flawed steadily crumbling monetary system that has been raped and is controlled only by a select few, and those who are supposed to protect the people, the goverment, are so fixated with their own lust for power, money and their rascism, here I specifically talk of Julius Malema and our president, Jacob Zuma, the two people who are supposed to uphold the rights of the people, are trying to pass a bill that will put me in jail for saying what I am saying, they want to take away your right of freedom of speech, that my fellow citizens,is communism and must be stopped or we will turn into the next North-Korea

      Ozymandios - 2011-06-27 14:53

      No Gerhard we are the next North Korea already!

      I_ARE_BABOON - 2011-06-27 15:23

      this is funny because you have no idea what communism or socialism is. "hidden-communism" ffs! but ja you're right, juju has no place in government.

      Malusi - 2011-06-27 19:35

      Media house are being use to push the agenda of the minority, anyway the owner is the white man. I have no problem with the media, but I believe if we have a good media as it always claim. Media would have exposed the hardship experienced by farmworkers. All killings that have taken place in farms could have been avoided

  • JanS - 2011-06-27 14:34

    Well done Sdumo our country need visionary leaders like you! We cannot allow irresponsible leaders to destroy this country viva Cosatu viva!

  • JanS - 2011-06-27 14:35

    Well done Sdumo we need visionary leaders like you! We cannot allow irresponsible leaders to destroy this country viva Cosatu viva!

  • Rover_ZA - 2011-06-27 14:41

    Thank you for coming to the party!

  • Ozymandios - 2011-06-27 14:50

    You sure don't have a desire to live very long, do you, making such a stupid statement? This is an ANC led governemnt buddy and they don't like exposure like that.

  • shadstar - 2011-06-27 14:50

    yebo demagogo

  • CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-06-27 14:59

    Vote: The instrument and symbol of a freeman's power to make a fool of himself and a wreck of his country. [Ambrose Bierce]

  • chris.khanye - 2011-06-27 18:19

    South Africa lacks a statesman, thus populists and tenderpreneurs are running amok threatening to fill the vacuum. Zuma's weakness is trying to pacify cliques instead of leading South Africa. Zuma never acts but reacts to populists and this's evidence of his lack of statemanship. Zuma is a ruler and his quest to stay in power is detrimental to South Africa's governance.

      Malusi - 2011-06-27 19:18

      @ chris...I think there is one thing that u are missing here, President Zumu did make statements that opposses things that have been said by ANCYL public. The problem with u guys is that u want Mr President to address these issues the u like, maybe by raising his voice or maybe even by kicking Malema out of ANCYL. Another thing that u should know his not a king maker, as. ANC is not a one man show or a spaza shop. If he is not getting support from other NEC members or NWC so is not going to be easy for him to change anything.

  • Mpho - 2011-06-28 11:32

    What demogogues?, i think you people are afriad to face the facts. We are currenlty sitting with more than 40% uneployement rate. Do you want to blame this on malema as well.......ha ha ha. Guys this boy coming out has done south africa a lot of good. At least he is not leaving of workers contribution like some of you are. My question is simple what has sanco, sacp and cosatu you people talk about how you are the vinegaurds of the poor, but you are not visible. I mean the only time we here about you is when you are electinearing and you wonder why ANC is doing so bad. If you do not know the youth of this country makes up 60% of the population, so i do not think you realy want to elianate them. What we want is simple, economic freedom in our life time. As the vinegaurds of workers what suggestions do you have that will improve the conditions of ordinary south africans who are jobless or adress the imbalances. Quite frankly the only person who is offering suggestions is malema and the youth league. But you guys suggest that we need to sit and disuss this things, its 17 years overdue now. We want to see change, my mom has been paying of a mortage for over 20 years now, Thus she owns no property in this land that belongs to all of us. Therefore if she had to lose her job today, youll see white people standing at the gate with a truck to kick her out. Yet she belongs to sadtu. Tell me are you guys realy worried about your members or more worried about who gets what position

      mish.mapetla - 2011-06-29 12:51

      @ Mpho, U hit the nail!

  • StopRapingSA - 2011-07-03 02:09

    Cosato is more confused than a paperbag in a hurricane. One week they support nationalisation promoted by these same demogagues and the next week they criticize them. Ny feeling is they want to grab as much for themselves but in a more clandastine way. another group in SA raping our resources and destroying business.

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