Don't vote according to slates - Motlanthe

2011-12-17 15:53

Polokwane - The ANC's deputy president, Kgalema Motlanthe, on Saturday warned ANC members against voting according to slates.

"The emergence of slates within our organisational culture and the processes represent the worst form of corruption of the spirit, character and vision of the organisation," Motlanthe told delegates at the provincial elective conference in Polokwane.

"The time has come for all of us in the ANC to condemn the slate culture to the dustbin of history."

Motlanthe said members must stand up and speak against "this demon" that seems to destabilise, demoralise and emasculate the ANC of all its historical achievements.

"Stealing away the voice of members through slates, buying of votes and treating the ordinary membership as voting fodder...serves no other purpose than to corrupt the organisation."

Motlanthe said the issue of slates was one of the issues that threaten to weaken the ANC in the next 100 years.

The practice of slates represent a deformed character of the organisation, he said.

President Jacob Zuma, who is also president of the ANC, had been expected to address the delegates but the ANC had replaced him with Motlanthe.

This was reportedly to save him embarrassment after it was learnt that delegates loyal to ANC provincial chairperson Cassel Mathale were unhappy with him and had planned to boo him, especially after his decision to put five of Limpopo's department's under administration.

  • Daaivark - 2011-12-17 16:09

    What's a slate ?

      Paulus - 2011-12-17 16:43

      It is a list of members they should vote for. Lower down I posted more.

      Squeegee - 2011-12-17 16:54

      Should have been: "Don't vote for the ANC at all"...

      Jarryd - 2011-12-17 16:59

      No idea, poor reporting, they should tell us :P

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-17 17:16

      Paulus has explained what slate voting is so Mothanthe is saying what we all know and that is the party is deeply divided. This was bound to happen, specially after all the alliances. You can not be a political party and hope to represent all of the voters in a country. The ANC has become the cow and all these different factions are feeding off it like ticks. The "cow" has now become sick and there is very little blood left to suck. I'm pleased he referred to his voters as voting fodder. I would never have in my wildest dreams called my voters anything as demeaning as that. It just underlines how well they know they are abusing the rights of the downtrodden.

      Ianm - 2011-12-18 10:51

      What's wrong with putting forward a list of candidates from which party members vote on who they want to represent the party? Most parties in so-called democratic states do it this way.

  • Thandiwe - 2011-12-17 16:16

    It appears that the journalist him or herself has no idea what s/he is writing about or is too lazy to explain it to the readers. And then they wonder about the secrecy bill. News24 seems to now employ the bottom of the barrel.....

  • Andrew - 2011-12-17 16:19

    It is already so corrupt they can never change it. Wishful thining. A complete bunch of crooks.

      Gail - 2011-12-18 11:20

      Never say never Andrew. If one thing in life is certain it is that things change. Admittedly we don't all like the direction the changes take but change they will and we can but hope and vote to ensure the change is in the right direction for the future of our country.

  • Jacque Raymer - 2011-12-17 16:27

    its not "demons" that is deviding the ANC, the useless party is responsible for their own demise, its called "consequences" to your actions.

  • Paulus - 2011-12-17 16:41

    The City Press article is a lot better. Anyway, slate voting is: "Slates are lists of names party members should vote for, according to which leader they support." Also called factional voting it sounds like.

      Ianm - 2011-12-18 10:55

      Paulus See my comment above. The Americans do it, the Brits do it. I don't see the problem. If the members don't like the list submitted, then don't vote for them.

      Gail - 2011-12-18 11:33

      Who draws up these "slates" of names and how does a name on a slate get on to the slate.? Do people pay the slate keeper to put their own name down or does the person whose name appears there on a slate have to be elected by a group of people of a certain number from the general population? Ususally if someone is nominated to a position of representation firstly they must agree to stand and secondly they have to have a certain number of people who can and will support them because they believe the person is capable of filling that position to the supporters satisfaction without any money changing hands. This ensures that the best person gets the position. The ANC/DA/FF etc executive should vet the list before voting commences to ensure that the candidates have the necessary credentials to fill the position if elected and remove from the list anyone who has anything damaging attached to him such as criminal charges for murder/rape or which could damage the standing of the party concerned. This would make sense to me and save money as well as being democratic. The candidate who carries the vote should not necessarily be elected on how many friends and familly supporters and party affiliations they have but based on how well they will serve the people. Can someone like Paulus perhaps confirm if this is what the slate names represent.

  • Peter - 2011-12-17 17:32

    Of course this only applies if the slate is not dictated by the ANC top brass like the vote on the info bill. If that is the case and you don't vote according to the slate and you will be in trouble.

  • Max - 2011-12-17 17:35

    I wonder what the combined IQ of this bunch of clowns is...they are like preprimary school children playing in a sandpit.

  • Shoe - 2011-12-17 17:41

    A blank slate, nogal. That's what the ANC is. A blank slate!!!

      Paul - 2011-12-17 18:05

      Try your left foot Shoe.

      Shoe - 2011-12-17 18:12

      Mashatile, is that you:)

  • Paulus - 2011-12-17 17:47

    The interesting question is "why is he saying this"? My suggestion would be that he knows his opponents will get less votes if people vote for whoever they want to, whereas slate voting will give more votes to the incumbent, who must obviously have a large say in the formation of the slates. Therefor, this has very little to do with the integrity/character of the ANC as he states, but everything to do with suiting his own agenda.

      Gail - 2011-12-18 11:37

      So in effect you are saying that he is lobbying for support for himself in this speech? What is his agenda, do you know?

  • Burtfred - 2011-12-17 18:12

    This is the same party that dictated to it's members of parliament no less, which way they must vote on the information bill. Anyone of their MP's who voted against the bill or declined to vote is now in the party poo. They were reminded by their idiotic communist whip that they were in parliament to "represent the party" - f**k the voters who placed them in parliament. And now Mothlanthe tells ordinary party members to vote with their conscience in their provincial elections. The ANC is a ball of inept confusion, wrapped up in a thick layer of corruption, decorated with ribbons and bells made of glittering promises.

      Gail - 2011-12-18 11:39

      Like your analogy there Burtfred!

  • Alan - 2011-12-17 18:22

    I kove it when the ANC fight amounght themselves....Ek kry sooooo lekker!!

  • tsudao.dausabgurirab - 2011-12-18 01:02

    when did you discover this wisdom

  • Geronimo - 2011-12-18 02:19

    Limpopo should either secede from SA and become their own banana republic or even better, become a part of Zimbabwe. They are the bad egg in the bunch.

  • Gail - 2011-12-18 11:15

    I can't help but wonder where our country might be today had Motlanthe replaced Mbeki permanently when he stepped down. I remember it was mooted even before the ousting of Mbeki that he could be the next successor and listening to him speak on TV last night I must admit I found him quite articulate and someone I could see wearing the Presidency well. The only thing I am confused about is what this "Slate"system is? Could someone in the know please explain. Initially last night I thought Kgalema had said SLAVE. and couldn't believe my ears.

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