E Cape financing non-existent pupils

2011-08-20 12:33

Port Elizabeth - The Eastern Cape department of education has lost millions of rands financing pupils that do not exist, the Daily Dispatch reported on Saturday.

Department superintendent-general Modidima Mannya told the newspaper that the manipulation of pupil numbers could benefit principals, teachers, officials as well as school suppliers.

"There are cases in which suppliers work with departmental officials and make claims for 'ghost' learners and share the cut. Such things do happen," he said.

The department pays subsidies to schools depending on its financial status. In poorer schools the department finances each pupil with R855 every year. They also pay out R2.02 per pupil a day for school feeding and R16.80 per pupil a day for scholar transport.

A principal’s salary is determined by the size of the school. The salary of a principal of a small school ranges between R251 000 and R352 000 per year, while bigger schools’ principals earn between R361 000 and R578 000.

"This does not necessarily suggest that a school principal is always involved in inflating learner numbers, as much as we are aware this could benefit him, as well as his staff complement which increases according to total enrolment figures," Mannya said.

Departmental officials found a school in Mthatha with only six pupils yet records claimed there were 702 at the school.

Education director-general Bobby Soobrayan said that school had cost the department almost R2m last year.

  • Redwine - 2011-08-20 12:45

    They say money and fools soon part. Am I to figure out we are the fools and the chaps in goverment are the clever ones? Certainly we are parting with the money and they are raking it in.

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-20 14:07

      And he "also knew about it"? He should be fired for not doing anything "about it!" And is must be malemmer who counted the 6 and not 702! Surely there was only one 6x10m class?

      john - 2011-08-20 14:28

      I fail to understand why anybody is surprised about this. These principals weren't checked periodically, they were trusted to provide accurate figures. And trusting a South African is just about the stupidest thing you can do. Let's try a little experiment: open a petrol station which has no pump attendants and where you pump your own gas. Then you go to the cashier, tell them how much petrol you pumped and pay accordingly. I guarantee you that a study like this would produce the following results, regardless of race: 1) Around 30% of South Africans wouldn't even go to the cashier, they'd just drive off without paying anything. 2) Of the remainder, 95% would lie about the amount of petrol they'd pumped and would pay for less than they'd used. South Africans are, overwhelmingly, dishonest people. All races, all ages, both genders. Pretending that we're not is just wishful thinking.

      BigMoose - 2011-08-20 15:13

      Tell Tutu.

  • Marcell - 2011-08-20 12:51

    Am I missing something? We pay to get them to school. We pay to feed them at school. All we ask is that they use the opportunaty provided by us for them. And what do they do? Zip!

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-20 14:08


      Zinki - 2011-08-20 14:15

      They use our money for "ghost" pupils!

  • blcotter - 2011-08-20 13:08

    Only the Eastern Cape? Perhaps the Minister of Education can explain. Heads must roll, prosecution and jail as this is embezzlement from the Taxpayer.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-20 13:08

    Viva ANC! No end to comrade corruption! Is Julius still at this school?

  • Mike - 2011-08-20 13:11

    Your pending "wealth tax" hard at work. Thanks Desmond....

  • braamc - 2011-08-20 13:16

    Born criminals. It is filthy thing

  • Collitjies - 2011-08-20 13:22

    Can these persons in the ruling body at schools not do an honest days work anymore. It appears not, as it is easier to cook the books and steal as much as possible before you get caught which could take many years. Punishment for this theft of tax payers monies is probably promotion at the very most.

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 13:29

      Honest days work can not be done by any government official. Too busy filling the pockets.

  • shortfinal - 2011-08-20 13:23

    Our tax money!!! Time we stop paying to line the waistlines of corrupt officials.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-20 13:24

    It astounds me that with all the struggle icons that originated from the Eastern Cape, not one, including Mandela, has stood up to fight against the rot which has set in there. Just goes to show. Once the struggle heroes are living in the lap of luxury the don't give a hoot about their roots. This does not just apply to the ANC. What is Bantu Holimisa doing? I quote from an article."The Eastern Cape boasts a proud history of being the birthplace of struggle icons such as Nelson Mandela, Oliver Tambo and Walter Sisulu. Its heritage is also rooted in a rich Xhosa culture and its wildlife diversity." The amount of fraud and corruption is absolutely disgusting! Like Limpopo, the Eastern Cape is a cesspool of corruption leaving the poor defenceless and ignorant! Vote fodder!

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 13:34

      It actually shows that the struggle morons only did it for themselves and the masses are to dumb to see it.

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-08-20 15:09

      E. Cape is still rich in wildlife. Problem is it the dumb animals who are running the show. I also wonder why Mandela has never had a word to say about the way the SA govt. behaves.

  • george60 - 2011-08-20 13:40

    Can anybody from the ANC tell the nation can we expect something good from you corrupt lot? Is there any pride in the ANC, beside enriching yourselves? You know most of the overseas people I see speak to says your goverment of the day is the biggest joke that exist. The Eastern Cape has always been the black sheep in the family, don't expect much.Shame ANC shame!!!

  • lerato sekati - 2011-08-20 13:45

    oh shut up people! what do you know about the struggle? what do u know abt being poor? just move to another country where your taxes won't be misused n stop the crap! whiners

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-20 14:13

      What I know about the struggle is your struggle to think! Struggle to get up in the morning and most of all, struggle to get a job and work for your money! BTW, how do you know about the "poor" when you have internet and a PC with electricity and a desk? If I move to another country, you'll even "struggle" more!!! Ever thought of that?????????????

      call a spade - 2011-08-20 14:19

      I know I waste my time replying to your comment but let me tell you struggled, are still struggling and will struggle forever because you do not have enough brains to change your destiny. The Indians also "struggled" under apartheid but they became successful because they had brains and worked. Pray that the white people do not leave. If they do you will eat rats like your brothers in Zim.

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 14:27

      @Lerato: Do you see corruption as money being stolen from the whites and therefore a good thing?

      lerato sekati - 2011-08-20 14:33

      @ mr Spiderboy ur problem is that u make evrything a race issue. i wasnt in the struggle...i know nothing about it, actually i could care less about it. i have friends, most of who happen to be white n i never claimed to be struggling. and if u move to another country it wont affect me 1 bit...i dont rely on ur minimum wage tax.....! @call a spade ur pathetic... n poor. wat do u know about my destiny anyway? u dont know me... check ur bank account before u reply again.

      lerato sekati - 2011-08-20 14:46

      im a taxpayer too fools, they stealing my money too. yal r gon die complaining. nothings gon change.n i wasnt refering to white people. yal give yourselves too much credit. BLACK PEOPLE PAY TAXES TOO!!!! WE ALSO HAVE MONEY...THERE ARE POOR WHITE PEOPLE OUT THERE!Or didnt you know that? Gosh yAL got egoS 4dayzzzz. STOP THE RACE CARD! Its getting old now OKAY. idiots

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-20 14:48

      Now lerato, just shown everyone your IQ! Have I mentioned race in my comment to you? NO! If you were not in the "struggle" after admitting that you don't know about it, should you comment about it? NO! I also have friends of all races, hence my patriotism to stay here. Did you know that? NO! In conclusion, how sure are you when I leave this country it would not affect you?? YOU DON'T!! @ call a spade: I agree with lerato, check your bank account, YOU HAVE A "TELLER" on your case!!!!

      lerato sekati - 2011-08-20 14:48

      @ warshrike doing my honours in financial engineering, so clearly i am a part of the 30% who passed! ;)

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 15:56

      I don't have black friends. For every skilled person leaving SA, 4 unskilled people is without a job! Lerato, What should we do? You should remember one thing. Even if all the whites in SA is lazy, because of the over supply of blacks there will more lazy black than whites. You should tell your brothers and sister to get off their backside and do something for themselves as it have a impact on you.

      lerato sekati - 2011-08-20 16:32

      *yawn*wasting my time with rednecks i see *dont hav time for all u poor pepople*... @marcell i dont have brothers n sisters.if u referin to all the black ppl,tell them urself loser i got better things to sleep..@ spiderboy go read ur little comic books. lame joke by the way, u couldv done better, or not!

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-20 17:40

      @lerato: Sorry, part redneck but born a boertjie! Most of all? I am a South African and I have the T-Shirt (sic and not yellow)! Googled "financial engineer" and even on employment agencies I could not find a definition! (No pun intended), coming from an "old" Industrial Engineer"! Do they invent and manufacture trust funds in Limpopo? Being as it may.... We will get "over it" when you start admitting it and help us to "get over it"! And if we were so "poor"? Why does Toetoe want more taxes from me? BTW (and again no PUN intended again), but if you are "...doing my honours in financial engineering..."? Do they not teach you punctuation at Varsity? Grow up and stop the fighting!!

      mabsie - 2011-08-20 23:05

      Lerato, I am sure you do not condone waste of funds. I am happy to pay taxes to educate worthy pupils. Teachers abusing funds are not acceptable - in any country.

      MyPal_Al - 2011-08-21 00:12

      @MrSpiderman, You were looking on the wrong Google site, try use the one as "financial Engineering" is only a subject in the local "African" Universities. It's now a subject and a requirement for entry in SA departments. In your day it was called by another name and not taught at any self respecting University "Corruption 101". Once his finished with his honours he will get a trust opened in his grandmother and son's name and the money will really begin rolling in.

      MrSpiderman - 2011-08-21 10:39

      Thanks for the info MyPal_Al! Will go and check it up!

  • the mc - 2011-08-20 13:46

    TRUTH: the love of money is the root of ALL forms of EVIL

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-08-20 15:14

      @Lerato, Seems like there's been a whole lot of financial engineering going on by National, Provicial and Local ANC govt.

  • Nipcat - 2011-08-20 13:47

    If there is a way to scam the system these people will find it. It is amazing how 'clever' they are when it comes to corruption. Sometimes so complicated that it is hard to follow!mes to corruption. Sometimes so complicated that it is hard to follow!

  • sipholess - 2011-08-20 13:52

    Keep looting and plundering you scumbags, every day you lot prove I made the right dicision to sell up. That fuse has the last quarter still to burn, then the begging bowl comes out. Watch this space.

  • Mxhuma - 2011-08-20 13:59

    Cry the Beloved Province!

  • Jacobus van Tonder - 2011-08-20 14:04

    I'm in tourism, field guiding, and most of our talks around fires bring plans together for running a long hour way to little pay industry. My thoughts is give the lot TVs/ DVDs/ Laptops, keep them busy and away from sitting around the fire talking, thats where the evil brew.. and by teh way, few rangers work with Xhosas, we prefer Zulu and Shangaan, they are prood of their work and make good nature friends.

  • Zinki - 2011-08-20 14:11

    Usually when there is an article about the Eastern Cape it normally involves the Transkei. It gives the whole eastern Cape a bad name...

      Grimaldi - 2011-08-20 14:36

      The Eastern Cape boast what could be regarded as amongst the top 10 schools in the country, Grey High, Gill, Selbourne, Graham and many more and go check out Rhodes University where true icons studied. It has the best beaches, top Game Parks like Shamwari and is the home of the Settlers. Do not judge this beautiful place by a few thiefs. Gauteng has that claim to fame.

      Realist - 2011-08-20 14:50

      and Ciskei

  • one-way - 2011-08-20 14:25

    The only good thing about the Eastern Cape is the sea on the eastern side of it.

  • Henry - 2011-08-20 14:25

    Have they got my banking details

  • doppelganger - 2011-08-20 15:11

    NOW ALL SING TOGETHER" Here comes the train, the gravy train, lets ride the train, the gravy train, ooo what a bitch im am so rich, for i ride the train, the saucy gravy train" Nothing new in this article, just another province with another corrupt ANC idiotic Zuma\malema twins in charge. This will never stop as long as this clowns are in control of the gravy train schedule.

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 15:59

      It is a pity a train run on rails. These morons would have hit a tree a long time ago to meet there ancESTORS.

  • FrancoisRetief - 2011-08-20 17:07

    So many views, so little input! This needs to carry on and keep happening till we learn to go on our knees and humble ourselves before God! Instead of asking for solutions everybody take their stand and throw mud. (If you through mud, you become a pig yourself) Why don't we take responsibility for our country, thank God for the opportunity and start making a real difference? Lack of faith of lack of wisdom? There is business opportunity for all of us in this! Grab the moment and change your future. We all fund government, which makes us partners. Its time we realize this and grow up. No one is perfect, yet everyone claim to be. Insults only hurt the one that use them. This is my country, for God trusted me enough to let me be born here. Nowhere in His Word does He say it will be easy? If you want to change your future change your way of thinking! There is no us and them, we are all one in Christ. Start a business plan and sell it to government. We lost almost R2 mil on one school, I am sure a "watchdog" will cost a lot less? Stop looking at the problem, and you will start seeing the solution.

      Redwine - 2011-08-20 18:10

      So your God want people to crawl on their knees before He will stop the evil and grant them a liitle slack. What a cynical dude this is. No wonder He also see fit that His messengers can abuse little boys at will. You know if I have to choose an evil I much prefer the one I can see not this Man in the sky that punish with impunity. Jeez and you guys bring this story of love and peace!!!

  • Jillian - 2011-08-20 18:16

    They are getting more and more inventive as the days go by. They are stealing from CHILDREN, for God's sake! This money could be used to upgrade the educational standards of the impoverished. The EC is the only province who still has mud schools - which btw was supposed to be upgraded before the end of May 2011, as the money was allocated (but nowhere to be found now). Overseers of the education department, however, need to transplant their ample behinds from the ivory tower and actually visit a school or two. Such visits would reveal some basic, glaring facts: 1. Teachers struggle to maintain their motivation levels; 2. Student discipline and attendance is appalling; 3. Parental involvement is far from what it should be; 4. Principals and teachers are overwhelmed with departmental admin; 5. There is no concrete plan that is committed to by all stakeholders – the system is plagued by ad-hoc requests and regular goal-post changes And if this is not enough, now they are robbing from the most vulnerable and marginalized in society - the children. Disgraceful!!

  • mabsie - 2011-08-20 23:02

    There are children crying out for the opportunity for an education. And now we get this fraudulent waste of tax payers money. Off with their heads!!!!

  • george60 - 2011-08-21 10:56

    We use to have inspectors that visiting schools, since that had been demolished it has open the way for crime. The way the ANC is running the country is like saying we will re-invent the wheel and show you that we are right? Their wheel is square that goes nowhere, ANC must admit defeat and go back to the old ways on doing things and you will be surprise or may be too arrogant.

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