Eastern Cape ANCYL: Malema still our leader

2012-02-08 12:29

Johannesburg - The Eastern Cape ANCYL has resolved to disregard its president Julius Malema's possible suspension until after a pronouncement on the matter at the ANC conference in December, the Dispatch Online reported on Wednesday.

“Julius is still the president, even if the mitigation can arrive at the same conclusion [that he be suspended] - any discussion of a post-Julius era is premature at this stage,” ANCYL provincial secretary Mziwonke Ndabeni was quoted as saying.

At the weekend, the league’s provincial executive committee (PEC) resolved to ask the league’s national executive committee (NEC) to intervene on Malema’s behalf.

Ndabeni said the Eastern Cape would propose that the NEC of the parent body should exhaust the two further options provided for by the ANC constitution to save Malema.

These were to take it to the ANC NEC for discussion, and if that failed, to write a discussion document which must be tabled at the national congress, for consideration.

“Between now and December, there is still that room for engagement. Those are part of the appeal processes which are in the ANC constitution. Once we take those two steps, it means that the suspension of Julius, the sanction and the sentence will not be enforced until those steps are concluded,” said Ndabeni.

Ndabeni said talks on who would succeed Malema if he were to leave were "not even in our plan".

The African National Congress's disciplinary committee of appeals announced on Saturday it had dismissed appeals by Malema, his spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, and four other ANCYL officials to overturn their suspensions.

The four others are deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi.

They were given two weeks to prepare arguments in mitigation of their suspensions.

  • procold2 - 2012-02-08 12:34

    not for long

      Anthony - 2012-02-08 13:08

      wonderful news --now invite him to sell his big house under construction in jhb and move down to u guys let him see first hand the abject poverty in your god forsaken area let him see first hand that in 17 years the anc has done absolutly sweet blue buggerall to help our people in the eastern cape -what dosent surprise me is that u clowns cant see it either

      Thabo - 2012-02-08 14:27

      The ANC has saved us from this Fat Thug and the Eastern Cape is crying. While the rest of us are rejoicing you EC Morons want him back? Why? Must he come teach you backward bunch to come steal more money? That is all he is good at. GOOD RIDDANCE OF FAT THIEVING RUBBISH!

      Philemon - 2012-02-08 14:55

      Maybe. But our leader Juju will be back. NDC will shorten his sentence. It will be time served. We will keep on fighting for economic emancipation in our lifetime. Have you not read what comrade Magaqa said about Nationalisation of Mines. The ANC has taken no decision yet. We will keep on pushing for our mines!

      Bryan - 2012-02-08 15:01

      What a bunch of idiots... The entire youth league is gonna implode pretty soon!!!

      Vusi - 2012-02-08 15:05

      @Philemon. What will you do with your mine? Strip it like Zuma, buy a Maserati and have a couple of thousand families starve to death and some fathers commit suicide while the toxic waters poisons all our other water?

  • Comrade - 2012-02-08 12:40

    E-Cape ANCYL ....who cares.!!...your a bunch of losers.

  • Dennis - 2012-02-08 12:51

    No surprises here - the sheeple will follow a stone if they were promised a bucket, even a streetwise will do !!

  • Mashudu - 2012-02-08 13:02

    Ignorant at it's best. May be they don't understand the word suspended.

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-08 14:13

      Let's help them Mashudu.......Malema has been FIRED, EC!!!! No more bubbles

  • NrGx - 2012-02-08 13:03

    defiant till the end and the end is nigh. just a bunch of criminals supporting a criminal.

  • Peter - 2012-02-08 13:11

    They have just confirmed that only idiots , self enrichment, uneducated, self centered , mentaly retarded people are in the ANC in the Eastern Cape

  • Grant - 2012-02-08 13:15

    So the ANCYL are defying their parent body. Not that i'm complaining, I want them to rip each other to shreds. I have this suspiction that the ANC will not make a final decision on Malema until the power struggle is resolved. They keep procratinating with appeals and now the mitigation (which should have been done before sentencing. Perhaps the ANC have just been going through the motions of sorting Malema out to placate the botswana government...

  • Francesco - 2012-02-08 13:19

    wheres that doom

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-02-08 13:32


  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-02-08 13:27

    Shame the ANCYL has allways been a bit slow on the uptake

  • Johan - 2012-02-08 13:44

    You don't need a leader, you need an education. Go back to school and create a better future for yourself.

  • lucillevg - 2012-02-08 13:45

    Malema is not fit or qualified to be anyone's Leader. In fact, he should have someone take control of his affairs and maybe some of the money will actually go to the poor, who he so emphatically supports and stands up for (so says he). Put your money where your mouth is Malema, and give some of your (or should I say, the countries) millions to the poor.

      Phillip - 2012-02-08 14:44

      Malema gualified to be a leader He is so bold enough to face the truth,Zuma is corrupt He inpregnate Khoza daughter out of wedlock,He was not taken to hearing instead he appologise to the Nations,We will not forgive him since He didnot use the Condom He must lead by example

      BobM6389 - 2012-02-08 17:22

      Phillip what you seem to forget is that Malema (the fat boy) was one of the supporters of Zuma against Mbeki, and is one of the reasons that Zuma is where he is today. Loyalty ANC style?

  • eben.ferreira1 - 2012-02-08 13:47

    Are they not just a stupid bunch. Shame

  • Buda - 2012-02-08 14:13

    We must also question, who speaks on behalf of the ANCYL NEC if it is not the President of the organsiation? If Malema indeed had endorsement from his executive to make such utterances, why is Malema charged as an individual? In an organisation that subscribes to internal democracy, Malema is not at liberty to subvert resolutions of the NEC. Therefore, does it mean that if the ANCYL NEC resolves on a matter for public pronouncement, the individual making the remarks will be charged? The charges by the ANC on Malema seem to create fertile ground for individualism in the party, rather than enforcing cooperation and collective accountability for issues. The charges that are to get Malema suspended from the party, are in my view not just only a threat to internal democracy within the ANC, they are also a hindrance to the ANCYL, as they weaken the ability of the league to be part of socioeconomic and sociopolitical dialogue that affects us all. In essence, one can conclude that the ANCYL is no longer allowed to air its views on contentious issues of governance, policy and international relations because they risk being reprimanded and given the harshest sentence of facing the exit door from the organisation.

  • Buda - 2012-02-08 14:17

    In essence, Mantashe’s show of support in a rally held in Bulawayo on the (08/12/2011) when he said “…We will send campaign strategy teams to work with you; this will be the best way to celebrate the centenary of the ANC in January 2011” (source: Zimbabwe Independent); meant that he will establish a ‘command team’ to help ZANU-PF and yet he was charging Malema of the very same offence. That is hypocrisy. Mantashe’s endorsement of ZANU-PF also meant that the ANC endorses the dehumanizing manner in which ZANU-PF treats its opponent, it means that the ANC condones the brutality that opposition supporters face, and it means that the ANC is comfortable with the manner in which Mugabe has run down the economy of Zimbabwe. It also means that the ANC is in support of the policies of ZANU-PF, which include expropriation of land without compensation – something Malema had been charged for. It also means that the ANC is comfortable with the manner in which state apparatus has been encroached into the party by the ZANU-PF, to an extent whereby the judiciary, the police and the army are all puppets of Mugabe and his cronies. Why was Mantashe not charged? The ANC leadership opportunistically separated the two statements that got Malema charged in order to create two charges.

  • Buda - 2012-02-08 14:19

    The ANC has now put its top leaders, through this disciplinary process, beyond reproach as an example has been set for those who dare challenge actions and leadership aspects of top leaders. This disciplinary process was nothing but a way to settle political scores for Mantashe and Zuma.

      Sello - 2012-02-08 15:50

      Well said my brother..........

  • yarmahosi - 2012-02-08 14:31

    ooh guyz u r still on the darkness neh. wake up & see what future hold for you.

  • Phillip - 2012-02-08 14:38

    Malema is still our president Zuma,his allies must go to hell,Mbalula for secretar general,Motlanthe for President Viva Malema Viva down with Zuma

      J-Man - 2012-02-08 14:42 all you idiots can say these days. Viva, struggle and Economic Freedom. Malema has lost. So have you, if you don't realize this by now. Get over it.

      Mouldy - 2012-02-08 14:43

      Shame, not very blessed in the IQ department are you son? It's ok, I understand how difficult it must be for you. Now go sit in your room and eat your KFC, there's a good boy.

      phillip.havenga - 2012-02-08 21:06

      Phillip how can you possibly support this degenerate? It totally amazes me how anybody can think this twit is a positive contributor to anything.

  • Phillip - 2012-02-08 14:40

    Zuma,Mantashe,Cyril Ramaphosa and his tsotsi's must go to hell Malema is our President.wena Ramaphosa ore kilwe ke Zuma o a rerekisha.

      Marius - 2012-02-08 15:48

      face it...JULIARSE MALEBE IS finished!! KAPUT!!

      makesuthink - 2012-02-08 16:58

      Phillip and you are a complete prick Why do you not climb into a tree amd become a manager a branch manager

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-02-08 14:50

    Did you see the NW ANCYL on TV the other night? They were all bulging out their pants they were so fat... I trust the ANCYL as far as I can throw them. Bunch of self-enriching scum.

  • Mpho - 2012-02-08 14:54

    Until the Hawks, SARS etc find Julius guilty of any criminality, he is innocent.That is the law. Until all internal ANC processes are exhausted, we will still support him. Those who wish for the silencing of the YL will never succeed. A post-Malema YL will be more vocal and relentless in pursuing the resolutions of YL. Be careful what you wish for, a post-Malema YL will make the current Malema YL look like a picnic.

      thozi - 2012-02-08 16:12

      @ Mpho This exactly the type of the "Bundu mentality" I was referring to. The guy's only pride in life is that he "belongs to the camp that supports Juju". I bet you he does not know why, simply because he's unable to form an own independent opinion.

      phillip.havenga - 2012-02-08 21:08

      Mpho all I can see is that you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

  • thozi - 2012-02-08 15:03

    In terms of yesterday's expert assessment, Malema is an "ego-driven force of destruction". One wonders what the poor kids from the empoverished EC hope to benefit from him. Or are they just satisfied to see him passing by in his R1.2 'Rover, or to read about his demolished R3,6 house so he can build a R16m mansion or are they just happy to ogle at his R250,000 watch from their cramped shacks? Well, that's "bundu mentality" for you. Can't do anything about it!

  • Jacqui Fichardt Millin - 2012-02-08 16:14

    I suggest that Malema must get his matric and a degree and go for english classes first. If you wanna play with the big boys on international level that's the requirements. We don't want a leader that's gonna make a fool of himself. Maybe also donate some of his money to charity to show his compassion and commitment to his people. Maybe he can take a few forster kidz. Yes that will even make him more popular.

  • michaelgilljhb - 2012-02-08 16:24

    You can keep grabbing at those straws, the fact is the ANC is in the process of devouring itself, slowly but surely. Eventually everyone (especially the poor masses who don't know any better now) are going to realise how much crap these people speak when they open their mouths. When that new revolution comes, don't expect a truth and reconciliation committee for the ANC big wigs...

  • Jan - 2012-02-08 16:57

    Man... when does the hurting stop!

  • ISO - 2012-02-08 17:03

    Malema supporters wake up!!! This so called leader stole from the poor and from you, he was taking you all for a fool!!! You support Malema, now tell me what has he done for you? Give me one reason!

  • phillip.havenga - 2012-02-08 21:03

    To openly admit to following this piece of rubbish and calling it your leader just shows what low grade degenerate filth the ANCYL are made of. This thing incites hatred and encourages murder, he makes the country into a laughing stock and these stupid fools think it is a leader, totally pathetic.

  • Ntshuxeko - 2012-02-08 21:31

    there's unfair judgement from the majority of people who dislike cde malema.if people think malema is corrupt,why can't they subject him to the rule of law?people should further be informed that politicians are never academics and therefore to expect them to use scholarstic approach on socio-political issues is completely naive.i think it is high time that our electoral system be ammended that we the electorates directly elect a president of our choice.the current system does not only create a division from a ruling party but also rob electorates of the democratic right of electing reasonable leaders of their choice.malema might not be fairly rich but he is better than many rich people who have even forgotten a word poorman from their own is sad that our politics in sa is still influenced by race and ethnic ideologies.our previous common problem that united the majority of blacks was apartheid and certainly what will devide us in the next century is a gap between a rich and poor.until we all agree that no normal person will want to be a spectator in the country where thousands become extremely rich while millions remain poor. this culture has to be corrected,unless we disregard the power of a hungry mob.malema may not be a bright voice for the poor yet he remains a sharp one towards a mentality that seeks to convince the poor that all is well in the country full of scars of economic imbalances.

      Collen Masetla - 2012-02-09 06:09

      Nxu well said my cde. Julius is punished for wrong reasons. He is rich but knows that poor people exist. Well said my cde

  • Raul - 2012-02-08 23:06

    May be you should consider independence and have the stoogie as your president

  • Desmond - 2012-02-09 07:19

    Boo hoo they stupid!!!!!.

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