Enforce road rules - DA

2013-01-14 16:33

Johannesburg - The death of seven people in a taxi accident in Mpumalanga on Monday highlights the need for effective enforcement of road rules, the Democratic Alliance said.

"We call on the departments of community safety and roads and transport to effectively police our road network and to enforce all rules and regulations without fear or favour," said DA MPL Anthony Benadie.

Seven people were killed near Balfour on Monday morning when a mini-bus taxi overturned on the R23 close to the provincial border with Gauteng.

Spokesperson for the Mpumalanga safety and security department Moeti Mmusi said nine seriously injured people were taken to hospital in Balfour and Heidelberg.

Benadie said the unacceptably high number of deaths on Mpumalanga's roads needed to be reduced as a matter of priority, and would require the co-operation of both government and the public

"This incident... once again highlights the many potential dangers road users face on a daily basis, emphasising the need for effective road use rules and their enforcement," he said.

  • paul.cleverley.14 - 2013-01-14 16:47

    Enforce roadworthy tests

      saintbruce.bruce - 2013-01-14 22:38

      Just combine the UK and Australia approaches to road safety without trying to 'africanise' them. No mercy All vehicles on the road to carry insurance No insurance - off the road Not legally on the road - 21 days to fix or vehicle destroyed Unroadworthy - off the road If back on and still unroadworthy - taken to depot and destroyed First moving violation - 3 month driving suspension ( anything outside of a parking ticket) Continue driving while suspended - 6 month suspension Caught again for third offence - start over [ learners, and new driver's test]. Do all that again - life time ban Caught driving with lifetime ban - jail 15 years Speeding - 3 month suspension and vehicle impounded Drunk driving - automatic restart licence, vehicle impounded Kill someone while drunk driving - lifetime ban and jail, vehicle destroyed With the above in place the roads will be either very quiet or very safe. Zero Tolerance in KZN still results in fines for speedsters - why? I bet the "every car to carry insurance" will sort out the rough from the smooth very quickly. If you can afford the petrol, you can pay the insurance [ no need for the RAF levy in fuel ] Anyone noticed on Gauteng's newly built highways that the "keep left, pass right" signs are missing ? Why Sanral ? Don't those rules still apply ? Comments welcomed. We have to do something more than the pathetic methods currently in use.

      dorette.forrester - 2013-01-15 06:55

      I find Australia very much a nanny state. Although I agree that we need tougher regulation I would concentrate on the fact that people that should not be on the road actually cannot buy their lisence. Half the problems on our road are caused by taxi's, older people who should no longer drive and the fact that people drive under the influence of liquor. We also unlike Australia have far more vehicles on the roads, our roads in Johannesburg cannot carry the traffic load - infrastructure is not there. Being on the road quite a bit robots are forever out of order causing tremendous traffic congestion and frustration. There is a hell of a lot that needs to be done by government first before you start implementing these kinds of measures. In Australia and the UK you have a public transport system which people can use! You cannot implement these kinds of rules without doing what is needed ie. infrastructure, public transport, maintenance & regulation.

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2013-01-15 08:15

      "All vehicles on the road to carry insurance " Personally I think this particular point is backwards, all insurance does is help make people less responsible, I think abolishing insurance entirely would have a far better impact.

  • thomas.jankovich - 2013-01-14 16:53

    Rules of the road are learned when training to take a lawful license, not when you purchase one from a corrupt official. Untrained/unlicensed drivers are the cause, having multiple fatalities from a head on collision is the symptom.

      andre.maritz.773 - 2013-01-14 18:03

      Do you not think that better law enforcement would weed out the unlicensed drivers?

      TSR01 - 2013-01-14 18:33

      Andre.maritz.773, I think thomas.jankovich's point was that "enforcing the road rules" is just more of the same of what we already have - speed traps, speed cameras, and routine pullovers for someone swerving all over the road while drunk. What we could use is a system that you need to have your vehicle roadworthied at least once every 2 years, for example, otherwise you cannot renew your vehicle license, and if your vehicle license is out of date and you missed the roadworthy, you get fined double. At least its an idea! :)

      attie.stone.3 - 2013-01-14 19:56

      Doubt it andre.maritz.773; Most of these drivers possibly do have 'illegally bought' licenses...which would mean it's officially & legally in the system.

  • terry.burne - 2013-01-14 16:54

    The problem will not be solved by focusing on the rules of the road. South Africans don't obey any rules - be it at school, at work, walking, peeing openly on the side of the road, littering .... in fact in every walk of life. People are not going to change their attitude just because they get behind the wheel of a car! We need to get all South Africans, from the president down to the smallest child, to become disciplined and obey the rules. ALL THE RULES ALL OF THE TIME!!! That is how civilsed societies work, when the vast majority of the citizens recognise that the rules are there for the better good of everyone, and that society functions better if everyone obeys the rules. The ones that don't, get caught, and go to jail - but this is a very small minority of missfits. The problem in South Africa is that the vast majority of people ignore all of the rules - and that is not going to change just because they climb behind the wheel of a car. we need to get a complete change in attitude to discipline - but with our current government, I can't see that heppening any time soon.

      brian.bagnall.54 - 2013-01-14 18:32

      I absolutely agree with you. This country has the most aggerssive arrogant drivers in the world. They show no respect, they are inconsideret and think they own the road. I just want to say that a few seconds of thought can help to save a persons life style Its those few seconds of inconsideration that can change your life and some one else life for ever. GOING TO JAIL FOR 25 YEARS WILL FOR SURE CHANGE YOUR LIFE. DO YOU GET THE MESSAGE

      pete.vanderspek - 2013-01-14 19:06

      Absolutely agreed! Ain't going to change anytime soon though!

      marilyn.docherty.9 - 2013-01-15 07:22

      Enforcement is almost impossible when we have corrupt cops who initate bribes and are only too eager to take a 'hand-out'!!!

  • lucy.bush.9231 - 2013-01-14 16:54

    O my word...will it ever stop. I just can’t help but blame the useless traffic department. They just never seem to be as effective nor efficient as they should be. Would it be racist to say that the traffic cops were far more effective under the previous regime..? So what if its racist, it’s true. Pull your finger out of your fat bums and do your jobs better.. !

  • osmaseko - 2013-01-14 16:54

    Blame the government for about telling road users to adhere to road rules? Its not the government such is behind the wheels damnit

      Deon - 2013-01-14 17:09

      Good point but our road users from pedestrians to taxi's and cars need to be watched 24/7. The only way to get the "bad users" off the road are constant CCTV monitoring on all roads. I won't mind that "big brother / sister" to watch us 24/7. Raise the licence fees and get road controllers to watch us and stop us before and accident happen, not after.

      PureProteas - 2013-01-14 17:09

      If you have ever driven on that deathtrap of a road you will know that it is the governments fault, why don't they stop drying out the tax coffers and get some work done, fix the roads, clean the parks, cut the grass etc, why isn't this government holding the various muncipalities and local government departments accountable

      TSR01 - 2013-01-14 18:35

      Taxi's don't even KNOW the rules of the road, let alone would they be able to abide by them. Why do you think so many taxi's crash? Not only are half of them on drugs, or drunk, but they can't drive properly! Ask the taxi this morning that swerved in front of my work van at 60km/h on the N1 near Bellville while I was doing 120km/h!! (its 120km/h on the N1, the taxi was in front of a truck, and he pulls into the right lane - the fast lane - for no apparent reason, before moving back again)

      attie.stone.3 - 2013-01-14 20:03

      osmaseko; Because of all the corruption + incompetance and because of the lack of traffic law enforcement, we have got to this point with reference to accidents on our roads. How many of the drivers on the roads are legally licensed? In effect it means the government thru their policing systems have enabled this problem to grow. It now seems lawless on the roads. Who do you wish to blame?

      denny.cray - 2013-01-17 15:04

      @Osmaseko - there are no innocents. Poor government doesn't absolve road users from being idiots. That said - one of the justifications the government use to tax us is to provide law enforcement. Shouldn't they be held responsible for providing the services they are promising? Worse still, our leaders are among the most irresponsible of all road users - not a great tone to set from the top.

  • guy.rice - 2013-01-14 16:58

    In Mpumalanga it is the road conditions which contribute to the high death rate. The R36 between Lydenburg and Belfast should be closed due to potholes. The government officials responsible for maintaining these roads should be charged with culpable homicide for every death.

  • hendrik.andries.5 - 2013-01-14 17:07

    I drive almost everyday on the highway between Pretoria and Johannesburg, at speed of 120KM\H. Let me tell you a few facts: 1. No law enforcement officers 2. People racing past me 3. People overtaking on left side\ yellow lines etc. WHERE IS LAW ENFORCEMENT? Nowhere to be seen.

      lucy.bush.9231 - 2013-01-14 17:11

      I rest my case..

  • KCorsar - 2013-01-14 17:15

    new road rules I observed over holidays: double solid white lines = free for all overtaking, solid white line with broken line in opposite lane = overtake if opportunity allows esp. on a blind rise Dual carriage way = right hand lane is the only choice, the left lane is too much hard work! Road deaths aren't about speed, its road users who aren't educated, pedestrians who believe roads are their walkways and lastly unroadworthy vehicles..

      jacques.stander - 2013-01-14 18:41

      Id love to see the statistics for road-death is SA! Sure speed is right at the bottom !!'

      TSR01 - 2013-01-14 18:54

      Taxi drivers = worst, alongside Golden Arrow buses :P

  • adrian.wells.969 - 2013-01-14 17:37

    wonder how many of the accidents where taxi related

      brian.bagnall.54 - 2013-01-14 18:34

      Thats a good question

  • calvin.eighteeseex - 2013-01-14 17:43

    How about we start in the W Cape Mr? 'unclosing' the 24 schools first,end farm strike,end ongoing gang violence,then accidents issues can be dealth with accordingly once the dust has settled

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2013-01-14 17:49

      Completely different departments, bozo

  • hartog.blok - 2013-01-14 18:02

    Even Arrive Alive is flabbergasted - after years of campaigning, our road carnage spiralled into free fall over Dec/Jan. The South African Psyche is so damaged, we need draconian remedial action. And while we want action, I ask who is prepared to tolerate the action that may be dished out to "perhaps" fix the problem? Contentiously I assume the fact we have no respect for others & ever diminishing personal standards, I'm not at all surprised by our present below par impasse. In my dreamworld - we'll behave courteously towards one another.

      TSR01 - 2013-01-14 18:49

      Quite frankly, the "honest road user" who always abides by the rules isn't to blame. Its the speeding / unqualified / drunk / taxi drivers who don't obey the rules regardless that create a dangerous environment on the road.

      John - 2013-01-14 20:38

      18000 road deaths per year is 1500 per month. 1460 over five weeks is 1170 per month in the holiday season! This is a DROP in the road CARNAGE.

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2013-01-15 08:22

      Maybe if "Arrive Alive" pulled their head out of the sand and stopped blaming speed for everything they would not be so "flabbergasted" when their entirely useless campaign yet again does not work. Focus on bad driving, dangerous vehicles, dangerous roads, forget about speed.

  • luzuko.qongo - 2013-01-14 18:56

    Typical South Afrocan, everyone must be policed in order to do what they are supposed to be doing. Its time we as citizen started taking some responsibilty for the carnage on the roads, when we change our attitude maybe we can change the way we drive on the roads

      TSR01 - 2013-01-14 19:01

      Its usually the bad drivers who cause accidents, not the good drivers who abide by the rules and know how to drive properly. The "typical" South African isn't that bad - its the taxi's, drunks, and buses who drive dangerously (oh, and some truck drivers who most likely only just barely passed!)

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2013-01-15 08:25

      "The "typical" South African isn't that bad - its the taxi's, drunks, and buses who drive dangerously" I disagree, above 50% of drivers drive badly, this is my observation from various places around the country, unsafe following distance is considered normal, to the extent that I am now surprised when I actually do see someone following safely. Also you completely missed out trucks in your "dangerous" category.

  • niel.bruwer.5 - 2013-01-14 19:07

    Sorry to say but having experienced our visitors in Kzn these holidays I would say cars with GP numberplates are far worse than taxi,s!

  • ian.robertreid - 2013-01-14 19:26

    DA u have my unconditional vote! i drive these roads many times every day?? we have bums on our road's with absolutly no regard 4 the law!!

  • Sherman Amos - 2013-01-14 20:31

    The bad SA road safety issue was there long before this incident and will be there long after it. Political parties must stop using the media to address this very important issue but instead use the parliamentary platform they privileged to have to make a difference. Road safety is only as successful as the political will that is evident to improve it.

  • piet.snot.77964 - 2013-01-14 20:33

    Sorry to say - 'a bit rich' from the DA who control Cape Town - please have a look at your own lack of enforcement in your backyard before you point fingers at other provinces. I see daily lack of adherence to the laws of the road right in front of a Cape Town City controlled camera without any resulting enforcement (fines etc)

  • John - 2013-01-14 21:08

    Traffic cops, get on the road and police MOVING violations! Cut out road blocks and speed traps! Moving violations kill! Drunk, drugged, unaware, reckless, negligent, inconsiderate drivers commit moving VIOLATIONS! Moving violations KILL!

  • williamjoseph.roberts - 2013-01-15 06:25

    When the ANC conference was on in Bfn you could not travel 500m without seeing a traffic bcop, where have they dissappeared to?

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2013-01-15 07:20

    Enforcement is almost impossible when we have corrrupt cops who initiate bribes and eager to take a 'hand-out'.

  • bill.mckimm.9 - 2013-01-15 07:45

    Inforcement; seriously? I was trice almost run off the road by a taxi the other day and when I pulled myself over at a road-block I was told they couldn't chase the taxi because the one car they had was being used. It was. The boot was being used as a table to write a ticket. We need people who understand what their job is about not donkeys who go out and do only what they are told!

  • cedrick.martin - 2013-01-15 08:43

    the quote shoud've read: This incident... once again highlights the many potential dangers road users face on a daily basis, emphasising the need to scrap taxis,"

  • julia.heanharding - 2013-01-15 09:25

    I agree, we need to look into why there are so many incompetent drivers on our roads who don't seem to even know the road rules. There are still so many people buying their drivers licences, lets look deeper and see who is involved and taking the bribes then maybe we can start getting to the bottom of the high road deaths in this country. Stop only fining people for breaking road rules, maybe there needs to be a drivers competency training course as part of the punishment.

  • corrupt.anc.3 - 2013-01-15 09:27

    Let's not stop at enforcing road rules but every law in the country.

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