Flush away toilet rumours, Sexwale says

2011-07-13 22:18

Johannesburg - Rumours that residents of Tshiame near Harrismith in the Free State have to pay for toilets should be "flushed away", Human Settlements Minister Tokyo Sexwale said on Wednesday.

Sexwale visited the township after he learnt the Maluti-a-Phofung municipality had built 1 000 toilets on land earmarked for low-cost houses, and had intended to sell sites to residents for R12 000 each.

SABC news reported that Sexwale blamed municipal officials for not adequately communicating their plans to local residents.

"People who earn R3 500 and above are the people who the communities agree and understand should pay. There must have been a cross of info where people heard those who are paying, and they confused that with the free housing that is normally given to the poorest," he told the SABC.

The broadcaster said the local residents still maintained they were lied to.

"I don't know who's fooling who because the province and the local government told us different prices," Tshiame resident Mpho Skhosana was quoted as saying.

In the Free State's first toilet row in May, the Human Rights Commission received a complaint that 1 600 toilets in the ANC-run Moqhaka municipality had been left unenclosed for the past eight years.

The matter was apparently the result of an agreement between the municipality and local residents, that the municipality would provide the sanitation and residents would erect the enclosures. Residents have denied this.

On April 29 the Western Cape High Court ordered the DA-led City of Cape Town to enclose 1 316 toilets in the Makhaza settlement on the Cape Flats.

  • ianfrost69 - 2011-07-13 22:38

    Tokyo for president

      Marcell - 2011-07-14 02:26

      You are way to quick. How many mines does he have his paws on?

      Creeky - 2011-07-14 07:52

      Marcell...he has sold all his shares in the mining industry, as he KNOWS that Nationalisation is coming....He now has Property in the South of France... with some other Govt Ministers...

      Krush - 2011-07-14 08:42

      Pensioners get less than R3500 a month - shouldnt they also be allowed to receive free housing? The least you can do is deliver them a toilet..

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 09:27

      Krush who hoisted your flag???

      Pikkie - 2011-07-14 14:26

      If all the people making the comments , blacks included know the man they will agree. Him or Cyril for president.

  • Beam me up - 2011-07-13 22:52

    It seems toilets are good business in SA?

      Liberty - 2011-07-14 01:36

      It seems like toilets are to SA what invasions are to the US :b

  • Macho Mike - 2011-07-13 23:05

    More crap.

      Pikkie - 2011-07-14 14:24

      He is more Macho than you, maybe.

  • Warslat - 2011-07-14 02:43

    Why is property "given" to the poorest? Why not lease it long-term for free? It would give people an incentive to uplift themselves. Strange place SA, where people who don't pay are given property and people who have paid live under constant threat of having their property "appropriated" (a nice way of saying "forcefully taken away")

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 04:24

      It is a form of what you call a '99 Year Lease' because we don't work with title deeds, the person whose name apears on the municipal account has claim on the house. The house cannot be sold or seized for settlement of debt, and is only passed on through a valid last will & testament.

      allie - 2011-07-14 08:07

      Are you people not conversant with MAJORITY RULE(by breeding).

      Wollie - 2011-07-14 12:43

      I set up a scheme for my employees where I have purchased and developed teh land, to some extent. They now pay the scheme a monthly sum, and will eventually, after a threshold amount has been reached, receive ownership of the land. Kind of like an interest free loan. Costing me a bit, but guess what, non of my employees are currently striking!

      Warslat - 2011-07-16 01:55

      @ Azizi The property can be sold, but not immediately. If it's a form of lease, how can the lessor have the authority to pass it on through a will since they're not the owner? If you're renting a flat you can't bequeath it to another.

  • mya - 2011-07-14 02:56

    people who earn over a 3500 should never be entitled to pay for an RDP house, these houses should always only be free housing for the poor, non transferable. It paves the way for corruption and poor service delivery.

      Worldwise - 2011-07-14 07:06

      I earn over R3500 a month. Can I buy an RDP house?

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 07:34

      Yes Worldwise but you must live in it but highly unlikely.

      jowza - 2011-07-14 10:07

      so finally you have admitted that ou are at the bottom of the food chain woldwise.stop playing on the internet and start working harder or join a union

  • grant9 - 2011-07-14 05:14

    Sexwale says the rumour should be "flushed away". That is ANC parlance for "swept under the carpet". Oh, I believe the residents were charged for the toilets alright.

      khane - 2011-07-15 07:34

      They must buy a stand for 12 or 10 000. that is cheap. affordable for so called poor people.

  • Creeky - 2011-07-14 05:31


  • roadvark - 2011-07-14 06:31

    This story has a bad smell to it.

      Marcell - 2011-07-14 06:45

      Does not smell like pumpkin.

  • Nico - 2011-07-14 06:51

    TYpical . Troll always come from the poor. Lies and more lies to suit them................. This happen also in the WC.

      Worldwise - 2011-07-14 07:07

      Huh? You're incoherent man. Explain yourself more eloquently. Do you know what an internet troll is?

      daaivark - 2011-07-14 07:42

      Does he even realise the delightful ambiguity of speaking of the WC in the context of toilets? I very much doubt that.

      York Hunt - 2011-07-14 09:56

      What? No one saw the pun? It must be an English thing... WC is an acronym for Water Closet (i.e. toilet). So Nico's statement could have read, "This happen(sic) also in the "toilet." Hahahaha!

  • daaivark - 2011-07-14 07:41

    Oh dear Tokyo. So you too have fallen in with the "We were misunderstood/misquoted" brigade with this little bit of wasn't-us theology. How art the mighty fallen.

      Dr Filemon - 2011-07-14 09:02

      He should also fall into a pit toilet

      Pikkie - 2011-07-14 14:21

      Ken jy hom, hy is dalk meer man as jy!

  • Juliarse - 2011-07-14 07:49

    excuse me, but didnt the municipal officials confirm they were being sold to recover costs... so someone's lying again. Eish!

  • Jakob - 2011-07-14 08:30

    hi, im mr. Waleass.. where did dis guy get his cool name...

  • African - 2011-07-14 09:09

    I don't understand Tokyo, He first accuse people of corruption and instructing the police to investigate, by just reading newspaper article before verifying the facts. Now that He got the facts, he is changing the tune.He was suppose to get the facts first before making any public statement.

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 09:26

      The lesson to Tokyo and his followers is not ALL blacks are corrupt.

      Pikkie - 2011-07-14 14:20

      If you know the man , you will change your tune mate.

  • York Hunt - 2011-07-14 10:03

    Who saw the images of the toilets in the veld on TV? I mean really! Is that the best possible solution the local officials could come up with?

  • Slingervel - 2011-07-14 10:14

    Mr Sexwale, please update us on the closure of the toilets at the ANC-run Moqhaka municipality! You and your ANC cronies were quick to take on the DA at Makhaza where toilets are being enclosed at present. Or will the Moqhaka toilets only be addressed at the next local government election in a few years time. Tony Ehrenreich is also very quiet on the matter!

  • Bok Fan - 2011-07-14 12:36

    more like a cANCer tumour than a rumour imho

  • Jim - 2011-07-14 13:06

    Sounds like a crappy affair to me.

  • Rob - 2011-07-14 13:45

    "Sexwale flushed down the toilet" rumours say.

      Pikkie - 2011-07-14 14:18

      It would be nice if you were half the man he is. Don't comment if you do not know the man.

      grant9 - 2011-07-15 09:20

      Aah I wish...

  • Kunta-Kinte - 2011-07-14 20:29

    Beam me up - July 13, 2011 at 22:52 It seems toilets are good business in SA? xxxxxxxxxx These are about the only open things in this country's politics. Most business is conducted behind closed doors, is often quite unhygienic for the nation and leaves a nasty smell of corruption.

  • khane - 2011-07-15 07:40

    Dear people of SA. these people must pay. whether you are poor or not you must pay for you to be alive. No housing will be given for free but it will be subsidised. hence the 10 000 or the 12 000. the only worrying thing would be how and where is the municipality going to account for that in their books since they are all receiving qualified audit reports. why would you want to own a house if you cant afford. you must pay for subsidised electricity and subsiidesed water and the land that you will be staying on. If you cant, stay with your parents and make it work for you. if you have 4kids get the daddy to pay maintanace or register for a grant. there is nothing for free...just now the taxes will go up and the working class will be under preasure. create opportunities and buy the stand for 10 or the said 12 thousand rand.

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