Govt 'must learn from UK riots'

2011-08-10 18:52

Johannesburg - The government must learn from the riots in Britain, to prevent them happening in South Africa, the Christian Democratic Party said on Wednesday.

Most factors behind the violence were also present locally, CDP leader Theunis Botha said in a statement.

These included undisciplined children with no regard for authority, alienation of minorities, heated inter-racial exchanges, poverty and boredom as a result of unemployment. Gang subculture was also present in some areas, he said.

The government was "extremely slack" in dealing with people like ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, who attacked minorities, said Botha.

The government further poured fuel on the fire, with nepotism and racially slanted employment policies.

"Things presently experienced in the country [Britain] are as a result of the absence of an environment conducive to sound moral and family values."

The riots, described as the worst in decades, entered their fifth day on Wednesday. According to Scotland Yard, 768 people were arrested and 111 police officers had been injured during clashes, AFP reported.

The riots were sparked after the fatal shooting of civilian Mark Duggan by police. Violence initially broke out in London's Tottenham district, after a protest against the incident.

Riots then broke out in other parts of the city, AFP said.

Meanwhile, the international relations and co-operation department urged South Africans planning to travel to London to postpone their trips.

  • Pieter - 2011-08-10 18:59

    Oh no, instead of learning from the riots, the SA government is basking in the fact that the media is portraying London as a more violent place than SA at the moment; despite the fact that a shopkeeper was set alight in Polokwane last night, a mob of 30 people killed a man in the Eastern Cape and countless murders go completely unreported and unnoticed by many. The government was quick to issue a warning against riots in which a single person was killed, however, I see no warning against people visiting Polokwane or the Eastern Cape. No, I don't think the SA government is in it to learn anything.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-10 19:06

      Agreed....this is a huge disgrace as we have way worse probs than the UK are experiencing right now!....pls don't preach against a country when our country is burning down every day of the year!....where as this is a very rare occurrence in the UK it is every day life in SA!...wake up!

      climber28 - 2011-08-10 19:09

      Well said! Have the journalists actually had a look at the streets of Johannesburg when the protests are finished. There are definate comparisons. the brits maybe had a bit of teaching from SA. Look, they even through rocks. I agree. pick the tree out of your own eye before you judge others.

      Zoltar - 2011-08-11 01:08

      Pieter, I take note of your comments. However, don't you find it somewhat ironic that the British police, prior to the 2010 soccer WC, together with the Germans, were trying to train the south african police in crowd control? We should certainly not rejoice in what's happening in the UK though. We have loads to fix in South Africa.

      Michael - 2011-08-11 09:40

      Eish. You peepull are so misinformed. Malema is our next Mandela. Can't you guys see that? He has everone's interests at heart. tsk.

  • THE.SRG - 2011-08-10 19:02

    Please shut up,a total of 4 people killed in these riots and they wanna say we should learn from it....dont make SA a bigger joke than it is already!

      eugenet43 - 2011-08-10 19:20

      I have to agree,fought the riots in SA in the 80's and 90's,now Im doing it in the UK.Over here we still have a shield and truncheon to"try" and quell it.Our leaders in SA are clueless and making themselves look what they are....idiots...just like the rioters over here.Shame

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-10 19:41

      it makes me sick eugenet43 to see Africa comparing a once in 30yr riot in England to the things that go on daily here in Africa!We have Rob Mugabe trying to take advantage as-well as Gadaffi.I cannot fathom how they can compare this cr@p to what they are doing....and i wont leave out the SA government cause they cannot say that we should learn from the UK mistakes.....we are in a worse place than the UK has ever been!

  • slg - 2011-08-10 19:12

    More suppression is not what I dream about when I think of England. Beyond the looters that are obviously taking advantage of the situation. There's a breaking free from the suppression, the heartless lack of emotion that is the dark side of English society. It's caused much pain, needless pain and suffering.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-10 23:47

      - Suppression in England ?- Hmm - Stick around for the Anc's , Mugabe-brand version - you ain't seen nothing yet.

  • nkosinathi.lukhele - 2011-08-10 19:19

    SA's youth is likely to end up rioting as their well being is downplayed as well by the greedines of it govtl office bearers, i bet, the final whistle for such isnt that far away.

  • CONSENSUS - 2011-08-10 19:20

    Reversed and hidden racial mobilization and instigation is stupid psychology and it won't work.Britain is not South Africa.

  • Nom-de-guerre - 2011-08-10 19:30

    And learn very quick about dissaffected youths.

  • Sit-hole - 2011-08-10 19:32

    Govt 'must learn from UK riots' What the Hell??? UK must learn from SA riots. SA has at least 40 years of experience over UK, and even then UK is 100 years from being a what we were 40 years ago.

  • ZoomZoom - 2011-08-10 19:58

    wtf? there is no comparison, not sure what SA gov. can learn from UK on this - um, perhaps better trained and supported police, then taking to boot every thug regardless how how long it takes, more important that if you don't invest in the youth thru education and job creation NOW, well SA leadership is in for a big surprise, these UK riots will look like a wlak in the park.

  • - 2011-08-10 20:08

    Its going to happen here - sooner rather than later. Malema is the epitomy of what is wrong with S.A.

  • Snoopy88 - 2011-08-10 20:13

    oh just spare me the sanctimonious BS... this govt hasn't even gotten the basics right.

  • Cheekiechops - 2011-08-10 20:21

    Ha so now we compare ourselves to the UK? bwahahaha...

  • jockvanwyk - 2011-08-10 20:36

    What!Their are regularly service delivery riots,burning of trains,schools,shops and killings taking place nearly daily.The only thing the Govt will learn from the UK riots that there is far less killing taking place there.

      Cheekiechops - 2011-08-10 21:04

      We wont learn but we have the nerve to compare ourselves. Can't do the maths.

  • Thabo - 2011-08-10 20:37

    I am gonna have to agree with CDP on this one, if our government does'nt do something about corruption, nepotism and crime, SA will erupt in protests worst than those in London. Do we still have the president in South Africa?on, nepotism and crime, SA will erupt in protests worst than those in London. Do we still have the president in South Africa?

      gatvol4corru - 2011-08-10 21:17

      Thabo,we have a non-working-travelling president

  • Kevin - 2011-08-10 20:40

    The whole world is in a bad way!!! No discipline and no respect. No education and no work. The men and women in power dont care about their citizens. As long as they get their fat salary and fancy cars they are happy. Is anyone out there listening to the people?????

  • Thabo - 2011-08-10 20:51

    I am gonna have to agree with CDP on this one, if our government does'nt do something about corruption, nepotism and crime, SA will erupt in protests worst than those in London. Do we still have the president in South Africa?on, nepotism and crime, SA will erupt in protests worst than those in London. Do we still have the president in South Africa? cos the last time I checked we had the guy called Jacob Zuma and his term ends in 2014 or something.

  • Cheekiechops - 2011-08-10 20:59

    Wow comments are removed even if they are not anti Gov. So now they are comparing themselves to the UK. Bwahaha

  • lapfa - 2011-08-10 21:06

    UK is much worse than SA at the moment. Why are some people trying to make it look as if when riots are happening in UK they are justifiable. Riots are just riots period. There are more police in UK than what we have in SA. Otherwise british are much worse than SAns.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-10 21:16

    Nothing to learn -- riots/strikes was invented here. Just ask the ANC for the manual

      Zoltar - 2011-08-11 01:14

      @gatvol4corru, Please read more before making stupid comments. Riots are as old as human societies.

  • nn.prv - 2011-08-10 21:52

    Whats there to learn from Hooligans? No brainer...

  • Kevin Rack - 2011-08-11 05:59

    Riots are a direct result of poor governance by the ruling classes. These children are a product of the society they live in and the victim menatility of their parents.

  • jen - 2011-08-11 07:55

    Where are the parents of those children? To abuse a situation like that in such a way is criminal. Vandalism and looting speak of poor upbringing.

  • Vrijheid - 2011-08-11 08:18

    People understand, please understand. What Malema says is actually ANC policy. Why would they want to deal with him if he speaks an agreed policy. The ANCs main goal is turning South Africa into a socialist country as per the Freedom Charter. The scary thing is, most citizens realize this, it is just the Liberals who cant accept this fact and still believe in their multi cultural mess.

  • Michael - 2011-08-11 09:36

    Dear and honourable Theunis Botha, I strongly object to the lunacy of your white imperialist, capatalistic and racist remark. You are wrong, comrade! We must not question our next president, Malema. He's a fine, young and upstanding citizen. Well educated, particularly in Woodwork. He will lead the township marches into Sandton and take everything from "the rich white people". We know that this must happen. He will succeed the honourable Zuma so that Zuma can take more showers to ensure he remains healthy. Malema will remain strong and healthy like a bull because he will follow Mbeki's advice of eating plenty vegetables and fruit, and take lots of vitamins. He will rocket our economy into the stratosphere with his rock solid economics of nationalisation. He will strengthen ties with neighbouring African countries by sending a task force to help them. He will bring forth the true African Rennaissance! Particularly because he can spell this word. He will get a Nobel Price and win a place in everyone's hearts. Just like our beloved Mr Mandela. I'm so glad Madiba still lives, else he'd be turning in his grave. Rock on Malema, we're behind you 101%

  • letsee - 2011-08-14 15:59

    Time to transfer all properties to the state. Malema will make sure that none will ever be burnt down.

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