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'Half of ANC supporters worried'

2012-12-07 23:13

Johannesburg - More than half of all South Africans and ANC supporters believe the future of the ANC is uncertain due to leadership issues within the organisation, a new survey has found.

The study, released on Friday, showed that 53% of adult South Africans and 52% of ANC supporters agreed the future of the ruling party was unclear.

Two out of every 10 ANC supporters (19%) disagreed.

The poll was conducted by research company Ipsos in November.

Only 39% of South Africans currently thought the country was going in the right direction, down seven percent from 46% in May.

The proportion who said the country is going in the wrong direction was up to 42%, from 33% in May.

Looks good for Zuma

"Against this background it is understandable that the ANC nomination conferences in the nine provinces were not without incident," Ipsos said in a statement.

"At the moment it looks certain that President [Jacob] Zuma will carry the vote in Mangaung, as only the 4500 delegates to the ANC conference will decide on the ruling party's (and the country's) next president."

The 3563 randomly selected adult South Africans were also asked to assess how well Zuma and Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe were doing their jobs.

Over half, 55% , of the general public felt Zuma was doing his job very well or fairly well, with Motlanthe receiving 59%, while 68% of ANC supporters felt Zuma was doing well or very well.

For Mothlanthe, that figure was 73%.

More appreciation for Motlanthe

On the opposite end, 43% of those polled believed Zuma was not doing well or not at all well in his job.

For Motlanthe, 34% believed he could be doing a better job.

Of ANC supporters, 30% believed Zuma was doing a poor job while 21% felt Motlanthe was not doing a very good job as deputy president.

"Interestingly, both the general public and ANC supporters expressed more appreciation for the way in which the deputy president went about his tasks," Ipsos said.

"It is clear that these views did not carry through to the nominations for the ANC's Mangaung conference."

Cyril Ramaphosa, a potential candidate for the deputy presidency of the ANC, received a favourability score from the public of 4.81 out of 10. Strongly supported by ANC supporters, he received 5.25, up from 4.78 in May.
 

Comments
  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-12-07 23:23

    The media is really trying by all means t0 push Kgalema, The man has declared defeat and we are stuck!!!

      asdhasgd - 2012-12-08 08:58

      I wish News24 would give out special badges to people who made dumb comments. That way we could tell the ignorant and just uneducated to the smart and logical.

  • Silas Hlahla - 2012-12-07 23:27

    cheap propaganda. very few pipo can ever be fooled by these bogus polls

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-08 07:11

      Oh ignorance is bliss. That's it keep lying to yourself.

      omge.klits - 2012-12-08 11:08

      Yip Silas - the polls were so wrong when they predicted in 1994 that the ANC might win a 2/3's majority . . . .

  • jasonv4 - 2012-12-07 23:33

    I say give the DA a chance in the next elections for one term all you ANC supporters... and see what happens, if nothing, feel free to change back to ANC...just a thought...

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-12-08 00:40

      Neva neve

      allan.rosenberg.752 - 2012-12-08 03:21

      Only when pigs fly and I don't see that happening any time soon

      dragonfire47 - 2012-12-08 03:47

      mfanafuthi, well with spelling like that of course you wouldnt give anyone a chance, uneducated idiot

      kndobe - 2012-12-08 08:16

      Maybe they would do a good job but I do not trust a white administration so i will never vote for them nationaly

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-08 09:26

      @knobe. See there is one of the reasons why Zuma stays in power. It is a trust issue that black voters must overcome. The DA will not have a white leaderships group to runs the country. It is already the "not so African"(brown and some "coconuts") that makes the party what it is. That is most black voters problem and through propaganda their thoughts gets controlled. If they only realize that the more the Africans join the DA the more Africans will lead the party, but to understand that you need more people with common sense. The other reason why Zuma stays in power is because the "gang" way he runs the ANC and the "gang" members will ensure he stay there. The majority black vote have to make that step themselves to try to secure a better future and it shown that it can't happen through doing it inside the ANC. I am not a DA member, but being the biggest opposition, I have use them as an example. The fact remains. The black voters now only have one power left and that is at the general elections. They can change it back or choose different parties with a next election when they not happy with their choices, but once again more common sense is needed. Change starts with small steps and individuals. Why don't you start knobe? You have got nothing to loose.

      omge.klits - 2012-12-08 10:07

      @mfanafuti - why dont you want that - Oh I see b'cause if that happens the DA will be a mojority black party - and we can't have that . . . right ?

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-12-08 10:13

      @knobe But you trust the current black administartion that is stealing you blind!!!!!! Please expalin?

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-12-07 23:33

    "while 68% of ANC supporters felt Zuma was doing well or very well." This just proves that 68% of the people polled are either braindead, have exceptionally low standards, or that these polls are cheap politics to make Jacob look good.

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-08 03:42

      Hard workers does not automatically translate to good leaders. I don't think one of them should lead our country.

      paulvernonza - 2012-12-08 09:41

      @ Siyanda. It makes perfect sense. JZ is a kept man in Government he is not there because he is the peoples choice. He is the political choice. The hard fact is that South Africa is an immature democracy which is propped up by tribal devisions, nepotism and self-serving pigs. The reality is nothing will change until the electorate realizes that real power is when the people choose by their moral conscience and not their affiliations. It's like a typical family, all stick together and look out for one another , but when a family member turns out to be a rapist. What do you do ? Sit back and accept it. If you of the were thinking of keeping quite therein lies the answer why we wont get any where in SA. Now will the REAL LEADERS please stand up and get some Moral Fibre Grow some balls. Time to weed the garden and pull the crap out. This political leadership, grandstanding, and pathetic leadership is a joke. So you know what you have to do.

  • dumisani.mbense - 2012-12-07 23:36

    Media and their allies again with their cheap politics,ANC members and people at large are neither blind nor stupid and they can see very well what are you trying to do

      denise.wilshire - 2012-12-08 11:22

      @ Dumisani. So sad that your education has failed you. This is what has happened to so many in our country during the 20 years of ANC administration. You cannot read well enough to make sound judgements. You are still locked into separatist thinking which was passed onto you by your elders. In order for this country to succeed and move into the future, we need to be COLOURLESS, WELL EDUCATED and BRAVE. It will not be easy to take that jump, when there are so many like you who are still dragging the balls and chains of prejudice around with them. This is fueled by ignorance and illiteracy! Read lots of books and play lots of chess. Remember that the "born frees" will be 21 years old next year. That is an adult in the eyes of the world. There is no conspiracy against Black people in this country. We just need a FAIR AND HONEST GOVERNMENT. NOT THIS SHIP OF FOOLS AND THEIVES which we have at present. If we had FAIR AND HONEST government, we (you and I) would have a glittering secure future. Not this shadow of uncertainty which currently hangs over all of us. Good Luck and God Bless you as you increase your powers of deliberation.

  • lawrence.sathekge - 2012-12-07 23:49

    You can call it Cheap Politics , Media and all that, but what the ANC don't realize is that we (ANC supporters) don't like Casanova's Leadership. He ain't a leader period. He doesn't know what he's doing, just to follow what he's being told to do...A man-pleaser...I'm fed-up with this Double-Headed clown from Nkantla...In ANC we got no sh***t time 4 tribalizm and tradition, we're about building a Nation!!!

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-08 00:02

      If you say we are about building a nation, I would be the first one to stand by your side!!!

  • chris.summers.3954 - 2012-12-08 00:01

    The unwashed masses will still vote for the ANC, because the alternative would be the DA, and the populace would rather see the country in ruins with the fat clown Zuma at the helm, than vote for a party that has a white person in their leadership. Nevermind Zille's struggle credentials, nevermind their record of good governance in the WC, and the numerous international awards they have won...blacks are simply too racist to vote for the DA. At least there was some feel-good news for the average ANC supporter today, no more financial support to an orphanage because too many white children would have benefitted from that support.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-12-08 00:37

      With people like you in DA, you can't Black people for voting for ANC.

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-08 03:45

      With people like Jacob Zuma in the ANC you can not blame black people for not voting for them anymore.

      colin.dovey - 2012-12-08 08:09

      With Pita above me here, and Dough below - makes me feel like a sandwich :-)

      JohannDuToit - 2012-12-10 09:32

      @somikazit.pita you a tenderpreneur or have a nice government job?

  • JohnDough - 2012-12-08 00:04

    What a joke! When you have 10.5 million voters receiving some form of a Goverment grant then you can be sure that 100% of the ANC are worried. The cANCer effectively bought the vote by issuing grants left, left and centre. (No, no right's get any)

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-08 09:41

      @george. It should not count, but it does. People are afraid or get told another party will take away their grants. The old national party also always, "coincidentally", increase government workers's pays before a general elections. That is the way ruling parties play the game.

  • thabo.shaku - 2012-12-08 00:04

    They should be very worried!!!

  • dee.bone.39 - 2012-12-08 00:15

    A true patriotic South African would not be loyal to any political party. Such a person would ONLY want what is best 4 this country . Blind loyalty to a political party is backward unless it is 4 selfish gain

  • freddie.jones.58367 - 2012-12-08 00:31

    Can someone please explain, just what does Motlanthe do for his enormous salary?

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-12-08 00:37

      He strokes Jacob's ego

  • enoch.mokhothu - 2012-12-08 00:39

    Ag nee, I rest my case

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-12-08 00:59

    United you will stand, divided you shall fall.....

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-08 01:21

    I bet majority of real black south africans did not participate on this survey.....nd in which provinces nd cities was is conducted??????

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-12-08 01:29

      You know, I have just learned something new! I would never have guessed that there are fake black south africans out there!!

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-12-08 03:32

    What a crocka sh*t !!

  • charles.maputla - 2012-12-08 04:05

    Lekgotla Padi thusa. Is there accuracy in this numbers. Aren't percentages supposed 2 be out of 100 or rather a hundredth of a certain number? Two individuals are compared using numbers. Aren't they supposed to be up to 100%? 55% as opposed to 59%, 68% as opposed to 73%, 43% v/s 34% and 30% v/s 21%. Maybe I'm old school or missing something ps help. As for the facts, the real polls will tell, no doubt.

      Buhle King Mphunga - 2012-12-08 06:46

      votes on surveys r 3way (yes/no/ unsure)

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-08 09:53

      Thats whats makes surveys reliable. Using a way that comes from all angles and one with the ability to read it makes it interesting. Write it down and then look at the whole picture. It makes it easier.

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-12-08 04:37

    With the fool they have as their leader I am surprised it is only half.

  • SbuddahMan - 2012-12-08 04:43

    Wow, quite impressive I must say. Not seeing much of the hatred and racism comments from the supremacist lately. Now this is what you would expect from a civilized society, now this type of behaviour in 100 years time from now might should you tirelrssly continue with it might earn you an Oscar, in another 100 years my conditional vote eventually...

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-08 05:18

      Good for you. Just vote responsibly and don't give your vote to anyone who steals our money to build palaces for all his family (such as Zuma).

  • shereenbejai - 2012-12-08 04:51

    I used to be an ANC suppoorter, now I'm an anti-ANC supporter. If I was an ANC supporter I would be worried too, because the ANC has become a circus

  • Quintin Rowan - 2012-12-08 05:34

    It's about time for them to be worried but come 2014 they will vote again for the ANC.

  • licini.machado - 2012-12-08 05:49

    Thieves are voting for the thief,cause if he (zummathief) goes,they can't steal no more.

  • Makgobe Khala Morwamotshe - 2012-12-08 06:17

    am 1 of them i dnt like d leadership of Seatla-Ntepeng(Zuma),he s turning ANC apart

  • george.mabena.146 - 2012-12-08 06:21

    They should be worried.this anc has sold us to the dogs.look at Marikana.Cosatu and Sacp are just toothless dogs and only worried about positions in government.It's about time a new labour federation was formed and a new liberation organisation was formed.Never mind the anc leadership the power corrupts ask the white man they have been drunk with it for many decades.That's why their comments are like they are full of babalaas

  • barry.pointeer - 2012-12-08 06:22

    Motlanthe is all for nationalization and he is Malemas buddy-- so both candiidates suck...

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-12-08 06:31

    What is the education level of those interviewed for the survey? Would be interesting to know. The higher the education, the less likely they are to vote or appreciate the ANC. mmmm I wonder !

      grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-12-08 09:50

      I was thinking along the same lines. How was this suvey conducted,was it via the net? If so well most voters don't have access to the net. Millions of ANC supporters are unemployed and living off grants. They would sooner buy a loaf of bread than a newspaper so they are unaware of what the ANC are doing to SA. Sad thing is the ANC will win the next election albeit with a reduced majority.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-12-08 06:35

    DelusionBuster, there is no democracy .your vote does not count ( neither does mine) . If the votes don't go the way of the ruling party, they will simply corrupt the system in their favour. Not new to Africa and other 3rd world countries. A boerewors roll will by a ANC vote and has in the past. Sad basket case this SA of ours but it's all we got. Let's change it then ?

  • werner.weber - 2012-12-08 06:36

    I find these statistics always a little bit dubious. Statistics like this rarely provide the "real" picture. They have to be taken in context of the current political climate and current issues on the table, i.e. Marikana etc. When it comes to voting time things change, we are still living in very much a racially divided country, until we are able to be a nation that does not vote along racial lines it is pointless to report what a party is doing because so many vote for their party irrespective of whether they are doing what they promised. I think any person that is able to read and research would able to come to the conclusion that the ANC hasn't been doing their job for a very long time. I am sure that there may be some members in the ANC who aren't useless and want to rebuild the country but they aren't the ones who are in the pipeline for leadership positions.

  • dave.abner.56 - 2012-12-08 06:44

    Ghalema should not accept the nomination purely because it is being endorsed by Juju. Then Juju will endorse Tokyo. This will mean that Tokyo's political career is doomed and that Ghalema is a shoo-in in 2017.

  • raymond.pieters.313 - 2012-12-08 06:44

    Democracy,what democracy?When I,Joe Citizen, have a choice of canditates to vote for at a general election,then we have a democracy.Right now there is a choice between stupidity,ignorance and a slide to nowhere.Democracy,the most abused word in SA.

  • clivegoss - 2012-12-08 07:00

    The big Mac (I meant mouth) once was looking "for the levers of power". With his big buddy, (the defacto dictator Jacob)or is it just Dick? They have dug themselves in "till the second coming of Christ". Sorry the beloved country.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-12-08 07:02

    Im not worried, what the heck are they talking about.?

  • Thobile Lugwadu - 2012-12-08 07:14

    In mangaung,there will be one ultimate winner.......and thats Maddam Zille. If zuma emerges as a winner,the DA will get my vote in 2014

      werner.pretorius.12 - 2012-12-08 15:27

      Ek wonder hoeveel blankes DA lede skryf hier onder swart skuil name!!

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-12-08 07:23

    they are so worried and yet they will vote for them again how dumb, its the only country in the world where 4000 idiots decide for 50 million people not one of them deserve to be president of anything ,change the voting system and lets vote for the person and not the corrupt party.nowhere in the world did i ever see a rainbow with only one colour ,black how depressing

  • masta.pilusa - 2012-12-08 07:24

    Kgalema is not ready 4the hot seat,even when people push him,he take Zuma's side.

  • bill.mckimm.9 - 2012-12-08 07:26

    So more than half think JZ is doing his job well. So with that understanding of "what is doing the job well" is it no wonder that no government departments are performing at all.

  • oliver.lankes.3 - 2012-12-08 07:28

    I remember Zoomer saying 'I wont go down alone'just befor his charges been dropped. Now you know why he is going to be re-elected.

  • Sandile Bhoma Ka Nduli - 2012-12-08 07:29

    It's a pity that statistics or the survey was not done to people that will be at Mangaung. The current ANC leadership is worried about their pocket they don't about the country. How can they trust someone with so many allegations pertaining corruption. Our currency is so unstable and nothing has been done about it. Country has thousands of unemployed graduates and nothing has been done about it. THE WHOLE ANC CABINET NEEDS TO BE DISSOLVED.

      Sandile Bhoma Ka Nduli - 2012-12-08 08:13

      This beautiful country will be like Zimbabwe soon if we as South Africans are not reacting to what the ruling party does. South Africa is a rich country but due to poor admin and dictatorship from the leading party and corruption, this country will be worse than Zim.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-08 08:22

      Find out the meaning of a dictator before allowing the rest of the world to ascertain your level of incompetence. No dictators in a democracy.......This is a fact. However even facts will not upgrade your IQ.

      jakkie.jvr - 2012-12-08 09:00

      Lol Zapadela, I truly hope you use your own advice (in finding out the meaning of a word) when trying to make a clever comment next time.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-08 15:46

      @jakkie. Did you get his point or not? I did!!!

  • Monndz - 2012-12-08 07:33

    This whole survey is riddled with general incosistency. There's difinetely a huge disatisfaction with the President's conduct and performance. His attitude towards corruption is unbecoming, and many SA will not want to be led by such a leader. As for the popularity of the Deputy President,perhaps the figures should be attributed to other people than ANC member, as things stand, very few people have used the nominations to express that satisfaction

  • chantal.coetsee - 2012-12-08 07:39

    Lets do a vote on FB whether Zuma should resign!!! I would be the first to add my vote! He is making our country look awful, ungovernable, corrupt etc, the investors are running faster than Usain Bolt! Idiot!!

  • daniel.rossouw1 - 2012-12-08 07:42

    These stats means nothing. Election time the ANC will hand out sandwiches in poor areas and all is forgotten and the masses votes for them again. Happened in every election so far. Sandwiches for votes

      werner.pretorius.12 - 2012-12-08 15:21

      Toemaar die DA sien ek as ek na hul kongres kyk deel DA tshirts uit om mense om te koop. Probleem net dat t shirts so deksels duur kos!

  • phorane.thokoane - 2012-12-08 07:47

    I am also very very very worried, that should increase the poll results by 10%?....... By the way I am not worried about the ANC surviving Mangaung, I am worried about the cost to the taxpayers once the voting is done. The cost of lobbying is already denting the economy, the cost of post-Mangaung is going to be ten times bigger. I am more worried about the service delivery money that will end up in someone else's pocket, someone that wouldn't know service delivery if it hit them in the face......

      ntebu.mthi - 2012-12-08 11:15

      The Mangaung election conference delegates are worried about their future jobs, whether or not their tenders will be secured, whether or not their corruption charges will be investigated and brought to the courts. Your concerns are different from those of the delegates going to Mangaung and to the extent that the vision of those delegates is different from the vision of the greater public, the future will be more of the status quo.

  • Frank Baumann - 2012-12-08 08:00

    @ Ayanda and Mfanafuthi........keep yawning you fools...keep yawning.you got your houses yet from cANCer? yet? nope? still sitting on bricks under a tree....drinking beer....waiting.yawning....EISH.......

      mzwa.mthombeni - 2012-12-08 09:34

      Frank,your utter antagonism is the Very reason you will never Ever rule this country! LOL! Such sour grapes!

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-12-08 08:07

    we are not worried but FED UP AND who when where why are these reseachers been done WE ARE DOOMED ANYWAY

  • shaun.miekle - 2012-12-08 08:12

    So the morons should be

  • Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-08 08:21

    Ayanda..Your pic. Is that al the money you stole from white pigs tax money? Mfanafuthi is you have internet is your black pic cage? We are not comming from Australia ass....l.

      shaun.miekle - 2012-12-08 23:33

      They are just primates who have fallen out of the trees

  • Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-08 08:25

    Well said....Sandile

  • chris.mafunisa - 2012-12-08 08:28

    If Zuma doesnt get elected in mangaung Most Zulus will move back to IFP and we all know Zulus are majors of ANC but then if He is elected I dont see any normal thinking Sotho, pedi, xhosa, venda, tsonga puting a Cross over that double heard Zumantashe thingy Trust me

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-08 08:37

    COPE was formed after Polokwane.....so which party is going to be formed after Magaung....

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-08 15:50

      Good one!

  • jakkie.jvr - 2012-12-08 08:56

    As someone that is extremely worried about the future, especially for my child, this is a small ray of hope. Unlike some blinkered ANC supporters on this forum, most of us "whiteys" do not care what colour our president is as long as he/she puts the party second and the country and its people first (and him/herself way at the back.) After all more than 2/3 of us and our parents voted for change and a new constitution 20 years ago knowing we will have a black president. You have to ask yourself what is your motive in blindly supporting an obviously corrupt man looking out for "number one". Can you convince yourself that you care for the country and it's future in your support of this individual?

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-08 15:51

      True.

  • enlightened.bowman - 2012-12-08 09:14

    Unfortunately, unless you are inclined to corruption and he likes, you won't make it in the ANC. Anyone that can say that Zuma is a good exaple in Anythingor anyone except the Manson family is also unfit as president.