Heath blasts Mbeki

2011-12-04 10:16

Johannesburg - New Special Investigating Unit (SIU) boss Willem Heath has accused former president Thabo Mbeki of “initiating” rape and corruption charges against President Jacob Zuma.

In a no-holds-barred interview with City Press, Heath said:

» Schabir Shaik and Tony Yengeni were “sacrificed” in the arms deal investigation;

» Mbeki “dictated” to the National Prosecuting Authority in Zuma’s rape trial and

» Judge Hilary Squires’ judgment in the Shaik corruption trial was flawed as there wasn’t sufficient evidence to convict Shaik.

Zuma was acquitted of rape in 2006.

The president controversially appointed Heath to replace Willie Hofmeyr as head of the SIU last week. Hofmeyr also heads the Asset Forfeiture Unit.

Former president Nelson Mandela appointed Heath to establish the SIU in 1996.

In 2001, Heath resigned as SIU boss after the Constitutional Court found a sitting judge could not head a long-term investigating unit.

Mbeki refused to grant Heath an early retirement and he had to resign as a judge – a decision that, according to Heath, left him a “pauper”.

He defended helping Zuma in having corruption charges against him dropped and said there were many more ANC leaders who were paid by “those with money”.

Heath also admitted making payments on behalf of slain mining boss Brett Kebble that some could interpret as “bribes”.

According to Mbeki’s spokesperson Mukoni Ratshitanga on Saturday, Mbeki was abroad and will return soon.

Ratshitanga said: “His (Mbeki’s) office will study the article and quotations that will be attributed to Advocate Heath and determine whether, how and when to respond.”

  • Jacqui - 2011-12-04 10:28

    Now we know why Willie Hofmeyer was fired.

      Albert - 2011-12-04 10:35

      Jacob has found himself another spindocter.A useful idiot.And he starts spinning straight away.Money shouts.

      Grant - 2011-12-04 11:20

      Mbeki initiating the corruption charges is a 'thumbs up' to Mbeki. It was part of his job to expose corruption - pity it had a political motive, though an even greater pity that it failed!

      lynch - 2011-12-04 11:33

      Now we know why Heath is hired.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 09:46

      You guys are FOOLS ... Mbeki ... stood up at a press conference in Davos and said ... "Tony Blair you are a racist , you block the investigation into the Saudi arms deal but you don't block the invetigation into the SA arms deal , because you need Saudi oil" This was at the time when British Investigators had proof of R1 BILION in bribes paid by BAE to SA politicians.... at the same time Mebeki was gunning for Zuma and Shaik fo R4.5 million!!!! I ask you this why was Mbeki calling on Blair to block the investigation of R1Bn and going after Zuma for 1/200 of that ???? In my opinion Zuma is a better President than Mbeki EVER WAS !!! Mbeki reminded me of Bob Magabe ... with his Gucci suits and speaking english like The Queen , while all the time fanning racial discord !!! Zuma is a peoples person , no airs and graces, he chats to all sides... rightwing whites and radical lefties too ! So yes maybe Zuma was not squeaky clean .... but Mbeki was TOTALLY CORUPT !!!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 11:57

      So I see my comment gets more thumb downs .... but no replies ... like I said ...FOOLS ... now I'll add IGNORANT FOOLS !!!! It seems that you guys are ok with Mbeki's gangs corruption but hey lets persecute Zuma ... lol ... ok turn a blind eye ... but when Mbeki and Malema are our next leaders , you'll see what utter idiots you all are !!!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 13:39

      wow ... lots of thumbs down ... but still no counter argument ... not even one ... come on guys ...put your mouth where your mouse is... nooo ..that would mean that you'd actually have to APPLY YOUR MINDS!!!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 15:16

      Still not 1 single counter argument ?????

      Deon - 2011-12-05 15:29

      Paul, they sounds both corrupt and should be punished. Heath also sounds not clean at all.

      Heibrin - 2011-12-05 16:07

      @Paul: we're actually not OK with ANYONE's corruption, be it Mbeki or Zuma. And FYI, the country is a WHOLE lot worse off under Zuma's regime than under Mbeki's (who wasn't a saint, by anyone's standards). Unless of course, you're one of the tender-buddies. Which would actually make sense, considering your vehement defense of Prezzie...

      Paul - 2011-12-05 16:30

      Thanks Deon ... but what we find here ... our white "educated" brothers and sisters all BASHING HEATH AND ZUMA ...they are like sheep ... dumb followers of what they have being fed by the lazy SA media ... blhaaaaaa it's all Zuma's fault ... Zuma and Heath are the BAD ONES ... they can't even apply their minds and base their comments on sound facts and fairness! WHY WAS MBEKI GOING AFTER ZUMA WHILE TRYING TO STOP UK INVESTIGATION ...WHY WHY WHY ???????????? As I said before Zuma is no angle, but boy is he one clever operator, with Heath here Mbeki's 2012 ANC comeback will be doomed. Zuma has decided ...Ok lets have a arms deal investigation ... and we'll let the chips fall where they do! He has got to know that some will fall his way , but he also knows that Mbeki has way more to answer to than he does. I for one hope that Zuma will win the 2012 ANC conference, I respect him as MY PRESIDENT and for his never say die attitude! Just take a look at how he sorted out MR BIG MOUTH MALEMA, do you really believe that Mbeki would have the balls to take on Malema? Together Mbeki and Malema will cause a war in SA, and we all don't want that, those calling for it are stupid and don't know what war is like, they beat their chests like heros, but when the chips are down they'll be the first to run away !!! To Mr Zuma ... I say this, take these clowns on ,fight the good fight , admit your part in this Arms deal, ask for forgiveness and then lead SA to a better future ...please SIR !!!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 17:42

      @Heibrin Good, as I said Zuma was not squeaky clean , but then Zuma didn't try to send Mbaki to jail did he. As for SA being worse off under Zuma than Mbeki ... please substanuate this , if you mean economically which I think you are re: you "tender Buddies" jibe , then I deduct that you now also trying blame Zuma for the finacial crisis, that's abit of a stretch don't you think! I think that under Zuma Sa is in a better postion. I tell you why 1. Zuma does not see himself as a player on the world stage like Mbeki did , he focuses more on local issues 2. Zuma is willing to meet with and debate rightwingers, Mbeki didn't even bother to address their concerns. 3. Zuma has fired/suspended and jailed more corrupt ANC officials ....enjoy your stay in jail Mr Selebi!!! 4. Zuma has instituted The Arms Deal Investigation ... Mbeki flatout ignored any calls to probe it. 5. My preception of crime is that it has gone down ... I might be mistaken but it's my view. 5. Zuma has not being as cozy with Mad Bob , Mbeki was bossom buddies with Bob. 6. Zuma didn't take Malema's BS ... Malema was sowing discord in SA with his "WHITES ARE CRIMINALS" and nationalisation threats, do you really belive that the "boere" would let Malema take their farms with out a fight. 7. With Zuma what you see is what you get ... Mbeki was a wolf in sheeps clothing ... these are my opinions ... you are entitled to yours !!!

      Sean - 2011-12-05 21:48

      @Paul - You have some valid points , but the ANC is so corrupt , who can one believe ?

      Vuyo - 2011-12-06 13:50

      Paul, let me just state clearly, I'm not a fan of either Mbeki or Zuma but it seriously looks like Mbeki pissed on your battery at some stage. Come on spill the beans. We want to know :)

      VanGraan - 2011-12-06 16:27

      @PAUL You are a South Africa's number one(1) IDIOT.

      Paul - 2011-12-07 00:13

      @Vuyo ... no beans to spill .. but when the countries NO.1 man... tries to block a investigation into R1Billion worth of corruption ... yes BILLION ... I would think that you and many more people here would be pissed off ... but what do we find here ... everyone attacking Zuma and Heath ... I find that a bit hypocritcal ... and not one of you can debate me on these FACTS ... you can THUMBS DOWN MW AS much as you like ... but it will never change the fact that what I saying is TRUE !!! @ Vangraan ... hey thanks bru ... I've always wamted to be NO.1 at something ... You add nothing to the debate opinion .. no input ...NOTHING ...just insults ... AND I'm the IDIOT ... aleast I don't hide behind a fake FB account ... you must be SA's No'1 A__hole !!!

  • Serena - 2011-12-04 10:35

    JZ must now be in his element, he now has a real buddy to speak well of him!!Both are tossers!

      Albert - 2011-12-04 10:58

      If the Jacob is innocent,why not sue everybody for slander.?

  • Moss - 2011-12-04 10:36

    Is this what you came back for?

      NrGx - 2011-12-05 16:27

      Maybe Mbeki should re-open the charges of rape. If some guy can be convicted for "spilling" his drink near Zuma, shouldnt Zuma be convicted for "spilling" his "junk" on a woman. Different scenario - same principle

  • Vuyo - 2011-12-04 10:38

    So, Judge Heath, is the fact that many more ANC leaders (i.e. government empolyees/civil servants) were paid by “those with money” a justified argument for Zuma to be off the hook? Surely the high courts in this country doesn't find people i.e. Shaik and Yengeni guilty of receiving bribe money from the arms deal for any other reason than that it has been proven and these characters have been found guilty by these courts of receiving money for the favours to those who supplied the arms to the SA government? You should be ashamed of yourself. Sies!

      Vuyo - 2011-12-04 11:03

      By the way, where were you then when these two were sacrificed? Why did you not come forward with your EVIDENCE? Because I would like to believe you have evidence for the claims you're making now.

      Cracker - 2011-12-04 11:43

      Toni Yengeni actually pleaded guilty. See "The Arms Deal in Your Pocket" by Paul Holden in which full details of Yengeni's written admission of guilt handed in to court are set out. The same book also summarizes and and analyses the case against Schabir Shaik. What can one say after having read the mentioned book and Feinstein's "After the Pary" book? Heath was against the Scorpions from the outset and propagated their demise. Until today nobody knows why. He never gave substantial reasons for what one assumes must have been a biased and personal issue.

      Mike - 2011-12-04 12:24

      In Zuma rape case there was a complainant who persued the case, is he saying that there was no case and it was manufactured? Sound like he was unbuckling his pants and waiting in line.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 12:48

      @Vuyo ... Mbeki was gunning for Zuma .... howcome our President at the time Mbekie was call on Britains Prime Minister Blair to block an investigation into a R1Billion worth of bribes but fired his Deputy President Zuma for R4.5million worth of bribes .....???? You guys can THUMBS DOWN ME as much as you like ... what I am saying is out there as a matter of public record ... google it ... IMO Zuma was the scarificial lamb ... for 2 reasons 1. Mbeki had to scarifice some one ... ala Yengeni & Zuma ... 2. To stop a ZULU from becoming President! I'll say it again MBEKI was way more corrupt than JZ !!!

      Vuyo - 2011-12-06 07:25

      @ Paul - I agree with you completely. The call on Blair to halt the arms deal investigation was purely a political one. The president and his deputy deeply involved in and found guilty of corruption in the arms deal? The result was not going to be a good one for this country. Heath's argument that many more ANC leaders were paid by "those with money" still doesn't justify Zuma to be a free man. I sincerely hope they will be taken down one by one. Neither Zuma, nor Yengeni or Shaik have been sacrificed though. Zuma has been avoiding his day in court at all cost and the latter were just two of the whole lot who were fingered and in fact found guilty based on evidence and sufficient proof against them. And lets be honest, they paid a small, watered down price for their part. Yengeni is back in government and Shaik plays golf. And Zuma? We need him in court and then behind bars. A comparison on the degree of corruptness between Mbeki and Zuma is probably a futile one. Knowing what we know now Mbeki should have gunned harder to stop this Zulu from becoming the next president of this country.

      Paul - 2011-12-06 08:25

      @Vuyo ... If you look at who Zuma's accusers were ie: Mbeki ... don't you think its a bit of a farce , it's like Al Capone pointing a finger at John Gotti. I don't support corruption but I can see how it happens, what I find truly sad that at the end of the day, even after this arms deal probe that Zuma has initiated, not one of the corrupters ie: the ones paying the bribes will go to jail ... they simply walk away form it and move on to corrupt more people in other countries creating more problems! It takes 2 to tango, so why should only one side pay the price! As for all of you going off on Zuma ... I say this ... there has being many other cases where accusations of corruption in every province have merely being swept under the carpet ... by Mbeki and even Mandela ... Zuma has atleast taken some action lately ... I think we should commend him for these bold steps !!! Ok ... what I'm about to say may sound RADICAL but if you think of it, it's NOT REALLY. I think SA should have a TRUTH AND RECONCILATION COMMISSION FOR CORRUPTION ... just like the TRC for aparthied crimes ... if blacks could forgive us for our sins ... Why should we not be able to do the same ... I'd view it as BACK PAY FOR ANC EXILES that gave up a huge part of their lives for what they believed was right ...just like we whites believed aparthied was right! Atleast then we could move on with a clean slate and hopefully work towards a better future for ALL THE PEOPLES OF SA !!!

  • Mr Squid - 2011-12-04 10:39

    This reads to me like Heath will use his new position to settle old scores.

      Craig - 2011-12-05 22:45

      Yep, plus get his overdue slice of the cash cow.

  • Heibrin - 2011-12-04 10:40

    And we wonder why Willie was 're-deployed', or, for that matter, why Zuma was prepared to have the arms deal investigated... with Heath there to catch and re-direct any flak Zuma's got nothing to worry about, especially with our lovely 'secrecy bill' just starting to rear it's head. Anyone wanna take odds on how long it will be before anything related to Prezzie and his office is automatically classified as 'secret'??

      frank.hartry - 2011-12-04 21:30

      You are so right. Zuma is preparing himself for the Arms Deal findings and that is why he has Hulley and Heath reporting directly to him. Heath will advise Zuma not to reveal the unpalatable aspects of the inquiry that affect Zuma, to the public. They all think we are too stupid to read into their little games.

      Heibrin - 2011-12-05 07:11

      @frank: I don't believe that they think we are too stupid, I personally believe that they KNOW that no-one can / will do anything about it, they are riding rough-sod over SA's people, without regard for their health & well-being. Remember, if the world at large jumps into this affray, then all that's needed is.... to play the African race-card.

  • Elkieta - 2011-12-04 10:44

    Heath was bought.Any idea how much.???

      Christelle - 2011-12-04 12:16

      20 cows??? Then him and Malema can be neighbouring farmers when he falls out of favour too. We know it will eventually happen.....It always does.

  • David - 2011-12-04 10:44

    To me the sad part is that it seems that it is hard to find a leader in this country who is not corrupt--surely that is an indictment of our society and its political leaders.

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:33

      Do not fear and give up, soon our King will come to Rule and this world as we know it today, will be alight with His Glow. One Way Jesus. Blessed be

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-12-06 09:47

      @charmaine so how long do u think we shall wait

  • gcshrimpton - 2011-12-04 10:46

    Zuma's toy boy! Disgusting!

  • Ntombiziyabusa - 2011-12-04 10:47

    I do not know which one is a bigger moron. This Heath character for making allegations that, he himself, admits to have no evidence of. Or the chief editor who treats such rubbish as the lead story.

      fredahsm - 2011-12-05 00:05

      Everyone else that gets worked up over crap!

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-12-06 09:42

      well i think something s on here... just dnt miss the news

  • Arthur - 2011-12-04 10:49

    Heath, you are a discredited has-been. Now ride off into the sunset and take Zuma with you.

  • Chris - 2011-12-04 10:50

    Can clearly see out of who's hand Heath is eating!

  • Barefoot - 2011-12-04 10:51

    Kids! to save the tax payers money i suggest we take the whole lot to the Karoo to play 'hide n seek' nobody comes out ever. i'll do the peeking 'll make sure i don't find anyone

  • Ry Short - 2011-12-04 10:51

    I suppose everybody needs a soapbox from time to time

  • George - 2011-12-04 10:52

    Now that you are busy opening that can of worms, dont stop and favour some. Talk and tell us the truth, not what they want us hear but the TRUTH from YOU. Can you do that without fear or are you just going to be another lekkie for the anc

  • Ari - 2011-12-04 10:55

    The Master calls - the Dog barks . . . At last, Heath has declared his interests and nailed his colours to the mast. Nothing - and I mean Nothing - this man ever says again will carry any weight with me. Shameless Whore!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 15:19

      Who cares ... your mind has being made up long ago ... Zuma is the "bad guy" and Mbeki is a Saint !

      Heibrin - 2011-12-05 16:03

      @Paul: Ari doesn't mention Mbeki... why do you need to smoke screen with him, in each and every argument?? Above you asked people to think for themselves, and try to refute what you said: why don't you do the same and try and dispel what Ari said with facts, not by fobbing him off with your little Mbeki smoke screen?

      Ari - 2011-12-05 16:52

      @Paul All politicians - Zuma and Mbeki included - are, in my opinion, the lowest ranking bottom feeders in the hierarchy of human existence. Heath is on a lower rung. That's all.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 17:52

      @Heibrin ... Adri calling Heath a "DOG" and A "WHORE" is a bit strong for my liking. Atleast Heath is willing to nail his colours to the mast , Mbeki tried to say his hand was forced when he launched his attack on Zuma. As I've said before atleast we know who we dealing with when looking at Zuma and now Heath too.

  • Lynn - 2011-12-04 11:01

    How stupid do these people think we are.

      Silvana - 2011-12-04 11:44

      @art Only as stupid as they are. How can an idiot measure intelligence?

      Paul - 2011-12-05 10:05

      I think you people are "VERY STUPID" ...I challenge you to go and google Mbeki arms deal corruption/ Blair !!!

      Heibrin - 2011-12-05 15:55

      @Paul: the only "VERY STUPID" people are those that, after making these statements, believe Heath was appointed for anything but covering for Prezzie.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 18:04

      @Heibrin ... and those that don't know how a public enquiry works ... how can Heath cover up what will be brought before this enquiry , 3 Judges , the public and the media ??? By the way Heibrin say hi to Mbeki for me !

  • TamaraSays - 2011-12-04 11:09

    Maybe if he wasn't corrupt, and he didn't rape someone, there wouldn't have been charges? Just a thought. Use it, don't use it.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 13:05

      A court of law found JZ innocent ...but I suppose that's not good enough for you ... Mbeki threw the book at JZ and failed ... now Mbeki with Malema on his side is trying to make a comeback ...HE WILL FAIL AGAIN ... JZ IS THE MAN ...ONE TOUGH ZULU COOKIE !!!

      Heibrin - 2011-12-05 15:53

      @Paul: Actually the charges was dropped, as far as I can remember.... VAST difference, and the ONLY reason why they were was...his buddy Heath.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 21:02

      @Heibrin ... NO .. JZ was found not guilty by Judge Willem van der Merwe, the judge found they had consenuak sex , and by the way Kemp J Kemp was his lawyer not Heath! Must be your "selective memory" VAST difference from the FACTS !!!

      Deon - 2011-12-06 09:01

      He was found not guilty of rape, but in another case the charges was dropped. (Fraud and corruption) It would have been better for all if the latter case went on and was finished. 400 + cases is too many to be swept under the carpet.

      Paul - 2011-12-06 09:16

      @ Deon ... you are right.

  • adriandt1 - 2011-12-04 11:11

    Can all the politicians stop trying to dig up old dirt, this detracts from the situation we find ourselves in, no new jobs, no service delivery,detriorating civil service etc. etc. What to do ??? no work ethic, from the top to the bottom of our sick society.

      Silvana - 2011-12-04 11:49

      Do you think they care? They just need us for our taxes to line their pockets. Service delivery road maintenance etc is extra.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 13:12

      Are you comments directed at the USA and Europe ... because I think those countries fit your discription to a tee , but you should have added bankrupt ...100% plus GDP to DEBT RATIO ... SA has on a 30% DEBT to GDP RATION ....well done ANC ...WELL DONE ... and by the way I suppose we had a 100% unemployment rate, with no corruption and no crime under the NATS ????

  • Winsome - 2011-12-04 11:21

    Brown-nosing at its very best.

  • Dean - 2011-12-04 11:24

    What a waste of white skin - birds of a feather flock together.If I happen to go to hell and you MF's aren't there I'm going to appeal.You selfish mothers haven't taken this country from Heaven on Earth and trashed to Hell.

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:13

      You go Dean, Only God Knows, we must never give up and shut up, this is our Country and we must get it back but we must not shed blood. Blessed be

      fredahsm - 2011-12-05 00:17

      Awuqindezelekang' u vumelekile ukuya phesheya, lapho uyophila nabafana nawe...........

      Paul - 2011-12-05 13:34

      @ Dean ...what has skin colour got to do with it ...I'm a white guy that has read,listerned and watched this story play out over the years ... and I truly believe that Zuma is better for SA than Mbeki ... I suggest that you take a long hard look at SA and tell me all you see is bad and rotten ... and if you do ...then I think you should run away like so many of our white brothers and sisters sisters/couzins included ... to those "greener pastures" yes those greener bankrupt pastures ... not only are they finacially bankrupt but morally bankruapt too !!! @Charmaine ... I hope that you are not implying that SA is "our country" meaning "whites" ...that's just foolish and racist ... YES I agree "we must never shut up " but I think before we comment on a article ...WE SHOULD BE INFORMED AND HAVE LOOKED AT ALL SIDES OF A STORY ... I surgest you spend some time reading up on this arms deal story'll see that JZ was/is not the only one that was corupted from that deal !!

  • CALAMITYSA - 2011-12-04 11:36

    Willem - Kruip jy gat? Dink jy moet versigtig wees, die ondersoek na die wapenskandaal kan nogal anders klink? Hoekom kon jy nie lankal praat nie? Hoekom nou??

      Atholl - 2011-12-04 21:03

      .. the budgies chirp the loudest at feeding time.. .. budgies are quietest when their tummies are full ..

  • Garth - 2011-12-04 11:38

    `Heath also admitted making payments on behalf of slain mining boss Brett Kebble that some could interpret as “bribes”.' This is the new head of the SIU? He has admitted to being corrupt! Anybody else, who does not vote for the ignorant anc, see that? The ineptocrats ruling this country are completely blind to their own sins, right up to and including the time that they are suddenly, inexplicably accused by their former comrades of wrongdoing. Has there ever been a bigger farce than the thieving anc? What is wrong with the people of this country that maintain these idiots in their positions of power? Ignorance is curable - stupidity is not.

      H - 2011-12-04 12:09

      Combined with the other pearl "there were many who were paid by those with money" it does seem as if they do not even realise how corrupt they all are. Ineptocrats indeed.

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:14

      You are right Garth, we are surrounded by Professional Idiots.

  • Silvana - 2011-12-04 11:38

    And so the pawns have been placed on the chess board! The dog fight for the presidency has begun. Who knows what dirty laundry is going to come out of this. All the more reason why the secrecy bill should be rejected.

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:17

      Do not stop Silvava, our Human Voice is a Gift from God, we acknowledge that we are not perfect human beings, and our secrets are known to God, but we have to fight this secrecy bill but not with violence and bloodshed. Blessed be.

  • Serame - 2011-12-04 11:52

    Nice Try Jz.Revenge time..JZ has a plan to cripple Mbeki and his allies who were influential on his corruption case..Whic to this date...No judge has declared him innocent...the case was dismissed on the basis of technicality..BUT we all know that there was suffiient evidence and intelligence to suggest that JZ is just as corrupt..

      Paul - 2011-12-05 18:15

      And Mbeki's still to answer for his and his buddies corruption .... you got to give it to Zuma he is a MASTER TACTICIAN ... I'd hate to play chess against him !!

  • pws69 - 2011-12-04 11:55

    A hired gun doing what a hired gun is paid to do. The fact that he heads a law enforcement agency is neither here nor there in the new improved South Africa. TIA after all.

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:19

      Nothing has improved in our country, the non south african's are taking over, they were paid to vote for the anc. Never give up, use your voice and the pen. Blessed be

      Paul - 2011-12-05 18:17

      SAYS she from the USA ... shut up EXPAT !!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 21:07

      Sorry Charmaine ... I got the wrong person.

  • Cracker - 2011-12-04 11:56

    I think I was not the only citizen who could not understand why Heath was so opposed to the continued existence of the Scorpions at the time it was such a hot topic. He never gave reasons except that other investigators could also do the job and that the Scorpions were elitist. Perhaps one now can start to make sense of it all. As one of the commentators above also implies, NEVER EVER again will anything Heath says be regarded as credible.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 18:20

      And a court of law found that ...The Scorpions , Pikoli head of the NPA at the time and Mbeki had a agenda to get Zuma ... but I suppose that slipped you mind!!

      Cracker - 2011-12-05 21:29

      @ Paul Details please. Don't talk cr.p.

      Paul - 2011-12-06 08:40

      @Cracker ... why shold I supply you with details...chop .. you feel that you are well informed to make your comments ... so you should know the details! As fot me talking cr_p , its my contitutional right!!!

  • Hunter - 2011-12-04 11:57

    Shaick, Zuma, Heath, Kebble, Agliotti, Selebi - somewhere in there we have a giant rat that just cannot be uncovered...

      Paul - 2011-12-05 18:22

      IT'S MBEKI ... that's the rat ... Kebble, Agliotti, Selebi had nothing to do with Zuma.

      Cracker - 2011-12-05 21:30

      Details so we can check it out !

      Paul - 2011-12-06 08:42

      @Cracker ... find your own details ... Chop!!1

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-04 11:58

    What a mafiadom!

      H - 2011-12-04 12:12

      At least their arrogance has now made it plain for all to see.

  • Rory Neil Price - 2011-12-04 12:13

    Good grief no wonder Zuma appointed you, no corruption will ever be found, to think he was not too bright is an understatement, appoints those who will protect him, now we learn he never raped the girl, was the shower your idea as well

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-12-06 07:57


  • Polotic - 2011-12-04 12:20

    Tell us another one!! Shabir Shaik was guilty as hell. There was enough evidence to prove it and by implication Zuma as well. The fact that Zuma avoided going to trial will always leave us with that impression. What about his demanding his day in court, yet avoided it at all costs.This doesn't sound like an innocent victim to me.

  • Bantsijang - 2011-12-04 12:23

    I foresee a political game and revolution unfolding!!!!!!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 15:10

      @ Anthony .... and you'll be the first one in the que at OR Tambo!!!

      Ari - 2011-12-05 17:03

      Paul - has anyone told you that you come across as pedantic and hostile? Unnecessarily rude? Maybe a bit of a bigot? Well, I have.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 18:27

      Ari ... as if I care ... hey weren't you the one calling Heath " A dog and a whore" a bit of a hypocrit aren't you !!!

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  • chris.khanye - 2011-12-04 12:24

    Willem Heath is playing politics and it's obvious whose side he is in. Infact the name Mbeki has become synonymous with ANC's Elective Conferences. I am not surprised - but this former judge is definitely out of order.

      Cracker - 2011-12-04 12:43

      It could also include the preparing for Schaik's pardon. What better recommendation (excuse) than the opinion of THE legal expert on corruption that Schaik's conviction was wrong.

      Paul - 2011-12-06 08:44

      @ Cracker ... details please !!!

  • Call_Of_Muti_3 - 2011-12-04 12:33

    Wait for it.... Heath is a 'Tool of the Black Masters' and is counter-counter-revolutionary.

  • mike.clery - 2011-12-04 12:59

    And this man was a judge? He "admitted making payments on behalf of slain mining boss Brett Kebble that some could interpret as 'bribes'"? He "said there were many more ANC leaders who were paid by 'those with money'" and that makes it OK for Zuma to do it? And he says that "Squires’ judgment in the Shaik corruption trial was flawed as there wasn’t sufficient evidence to convict Shaik", so it's OK to reject the rule of law? Wow, what sort of person is this????? Frightening stuff that he's heading THE major anti-corruption unit.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 15:12

      YES..... very frightening stuff for Mbeki's gang!

  • Mpho - 2011-12-04 13:23

    i can clearly picture mbeki with a remote control in a dark pipe smokey room instructing zuma's penis to do its job! can't beat technology like that!

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:24

      Wow! what can I say in answer to this... and these so called high and mighty call us ordinary people. Blessed be.

  • Brent - 2011-12-04 13:31

    sooo lets not blame apartheid -let us blame mebeki?

  • Allan - 2011-12-04 13:41

    shut up and sleep with one eye open. Allan

  • Mike - 2011-12-04 14:03

    And so the final bell tolls for any chance of the SIU actively taking down corrupt politicians, the exceptions will be the dimwits that fall foul of those holding the reins.

      Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:29

      Not for long Mike, the reins are breaking slowly but surely. Blessed be

      Mike - 2011-12-04 14:33

      @Charmaine, I wish I could share your optimism however my experiences in the rest of Africa lead me to believe otherwise. If the ANC does implode it will only lead to the downfall of the country ocurring even quicker as the fights to fill the power void take hold.

  • goyougoodthing - 2011-12-04 14:09

    What a prize prick this Heath is

  • Charmaine - 2011-12-04 14:10

    The prayers of the Believers are being answered. It is God who put them up there in those positions and God will take them off as well. Good! "When we pray: O'Lord let the Righteous men and women be established as leaders in our land", God hears us. In humiliation they will leave office, all of them, we have not cursed them, God's Curse is on them and we cannot dispute with The Holy Scriptures. There are still more to go and that will also happen, sooner than later. Blessed be

      Paul - 2011-12-05 14:45

      I think God answered our prays and helped Zuma get into power ... even with all that Mbeki threw at him ... people should be thankful we have Zuma, he is a GREAT LEADER !!!

      Ari - 2011-12-05 19:48

      I think Paul is a brown nose ANC wannabee supporter who probably has some or other commercial connection to a political bigwig.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 21:24

      Adi ....up yours bru.... I'm a well read patriotic Saffa ... I am white and refuse to be negative about SA ... I see many positives happening in SA ... yes there are negatives out there to, I'm just sick of all you pompus whiteys with your surperior than thou attitudes always insulting the ANC and blacks in general, its people like you who give the likes of Malema their supporters, after all SA has being threw ... you never see any of the good the ANC has given SA ... for your information I voted DA ... but I'm in two minds about them ...they seem incapable of choosing a true leader ... do you really think Blacks will vote them in ... not with Zille as the leader...not ever!!

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-04 14:14

    Selebi from the Mbeki camp goes to jail. Heath reticules Mbeki, Zuma is a innocent angel. I smell something rotten in the Picnic basket.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 14:50

      Are you saying Selebi was innocent? ... what did Mbeki do when Selbi said that Aggliotti was his buddy "finished and klaar" ... I'll tell you Mbeki did nothing!!! Under Zuma's watch more corrput people have being fired/ suspended and convited in 2 years that in the 9 years Mbeki was in control ... go ZUMA YOU GOODTHING !!!

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2011-12-06 07:29

      jst when 2014 s arond the conner!re prove hw Zuma was victimised by Mbeki,n people wl will fall for him over again!!!

  • brettcch - 2011-12-04 14:57

    Does anybody still think Heath is credible? I'm afraid he's revealed his agenda.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 14:52

      YES ...I DO !! Bigtime !! Let the rotten apples fall and we will see!

  • Chris - 2011-12-04 16:23

    The rule about such position is that the incumbent must not be the focus of the headlines!! This man has started on the wrong foort. Could he please explain how The EADS/THALE submissions before the German courts confirmed the corruption The judges judgement in each case was confirmed by the appelate! Mr Heath resign - you are an embarrasment!

      Paul - 2011-12-05 14:54

      Can Mr Mbeki please explain why he asked Tony Blair to block Britains investigation into the SA arms deal ?

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-04 16:29

    Another mud slinging. It's God- ancestors-Colonialism-Apartheid-Democracy-Nooo it's not Mandela-Mbeki-Current President.

  • Hermann - 2011-12-04 17:12

    Impartial are we? What kind of judge is this guy? (Un)Hea(L)th(y)?

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      Paul - 2011-12-05 14:54

      A GOOD ONE !!!

  • Vic - 2011-12-04 18:39

    One by one, showerhead's chommies are falling around him. Could Heath eventually be one of them? Zuma should have had his day in Court, to prove his innocence, or otherwise, but conveniently charges were scuppered by Simelane just before elections. How convenient !! Bring Pikoli back.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 14:56

      Mbeki should have had his day in Court, to prove his innocence !!!!!!

      sefeddt - 2011-12-06 18:11

      @Paul, so should Shower Head.

  • An observer - 2011-12-04 19:22

    Oh my God, not another one. By his own admission he "admitted making payments on behalf of slain mining boss Brett Kebble that some could interpret as “bribes”. Corrupt, corrupt corrupt. The whole bunch of them. What the hell was he doing dealing with Brett Kebble? Now he is the head od the SIU. The mind boggles. Time to stand up to this madness and insanity. Let's protest against his appointment and anything else the corrupt ANC do.

  • Andries - 2011-12-04 19:38

    ... give him rope Johanna, .. rope Johanna, rope before the mourning comes..

  • Julian - 2011-12-04 20:50

    Is Mr Heath saying that the Judges of the Appellate Division who confirmed Shaiks conviction were in it together with Hillary Squires. Perhaps Heath needs to study the law that convicted Shaik before throwing stones. Perhaps Selebi ought to have read the Act that convicted him before he decided on accepting a free lunch. But then why spoil a perfectly good rumor with the truth