Jewish community angry at minister

2012-08-14 18:34

Johannesburg - Sectors of the Jewish community have criticised International Relations Deputy Minister Ebrahim Ebrahim for reportedly discouraging South Africans from visiting Israel.

"Such a stance is grossly discriminatory, counter-productive, and wholly inconsistent with how South Africa normally conducts its international relations, and contradicts its official policy of having full diplomatic ties with Israel," the SA Zionist Federation, the SA Jewish Board of Deputies, and the Office of the Chief Rabbi said in a joint statement on Tuesday.

"The result of such a policy is that South Africa... will be seen to be supporting those who wish to promote a complete boycott of Israel and to that end, seek to shut down any initiatives aimed at meaningful dialogue."

Ebrahim told SABC radio that he was not barring individuals from travelling to Israel, but merely "discouraging" them.

He said it was up to each individual or organisation to decide whether to go there or not.

His comment was made at a news briefing in Pretoria on Tuesday morning.

"Mr Ebrahim's statements are indicative of a highly discriminatory and disproportionate obsession with the Jewish state," the joint statement said.

Spokesman for the international relations department Clayson Monyela declined to comment on the matter.

  • Desilusionada - 2012-08-14 18:55

    "He said it was up to each individual or organisation to decide whether to go there or not." Well if it is, why them make a comment about it? Unfortunately his backtracking will not take away the sure knowledge that we now have that he is an anti-Semitic bigot. Which is a bad as being a racist? And if the government does not officially and publicly react to this will situate them in no different a place than where he is...

      emile.vanrayner.7 - 2012-08-15 08:51

      i doubt zuma cares about Jewih people. you are not his voter base, so you are inconsequential, and your problems are trivial in the eyes of govt. it would not surprise me if your minister gives some sort of an apology for what he said. its a pointless and empty apology, and the damage has most likely already been done, so im sure that whelch will apologise. govt, however, would pleasantly surprise me if they did ANYTHING about this.

      KennySven - 2012-10-09 18:55

      I agree,So why don't you Ebrahim Ebrahim "The Jew Hater,Racist"(To pathetic to be a terrorist even if you wanted to)take your samosa making machine and the rest of your nomadic tribe back to Palestine were you belong. It's people like you with YOUR BIG MOUTH that gives all the good decent Muslims a bad name. Try thinking a little if possible,before opening your big mouth. You only hold this Deputy Ministerial position because you maybe spent a week on Robbin Island for the struggle.(Oxford Dictionary,A TOKEN)

  • steveroodt - 2012-08-14 18:56

    Do you People not understand yet. Why are they called Political Puppets ? The Mouths only move when the Wire attached to the wallet Moves the Jaw.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-08-14 19:02

    This new attitude towards Israel coincides with the greater ties that SA is forging with Saudi Arabia, and the fact that rich Saudis are investing in land and businesses in SA. What needs to be discussed is an issue that most Arab states do not want to admit to and that is the treatment of Palestinians in Arab lands. Palestinians are forced to live in ghetto-like camps, denied education and entry into a whole range of professions, they are denied citizenship and inclusion in the greater society, and they are denied full human rights. They are restricted to refugee camps by having to obtain permission to leave. This is the only refugee group that has grown, not through displacement, but through birth from 400,000 in 1946 to 4 million in 2012. The hosting states get financial aid to house these people but very little of this money goes to these Palestinians. The Arab League has a policy that explicitly states that these Palestinians may never be absorbed by the surrounding Arab society. What worse is that this is maltreatment of Arabs by Arabs, yet nothing is said or done about it. It's not newsworthy. Added to this, if Black South Africans had to witness how the Black descendants of slaves are treated in some of these Arab states, they would recognise the same mistreatment they suffered under apartheid. Every country has the right to return illegal immigrants. South Africa deports thousands of Black African illegal immigrants every month. Don't be a hypocrite, Bongani!

      sean.wasserman.3 - 2012-08-14 20:02

      @Hoosain, how is your comment "...promoting compassion amongst mankind"?

  • johnwilliam.roberts - 2012-08-14 19:06

    what a business !!

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-08-14 19:07

    Very thoughtless comment by the minister. His title is International Relations Minister. That's one sure way to sour international relations. This is not the first time that others will need to stand behind him and either apologise or explain that his message was taken 'out of context'. Our big problem, apart from idiot parlimentarians, is that we have too many caps to wear: SADC, AU, BRICS, UN Security Council. So we are one big puppet with many puppeteers.

  • johnnie.vercuil - 2012-08-14 19:24

    This Minister is looking for something to say so that his name comes up in the papers. He says he is not saying people must not go to Israel and he is not saying they must go to Israel, so what in hell is he saying?

      jaba.kov - 2012-08-15 06:31

      This Minister needs to remember that he is South African first and Muslim after... He must not forget the job he accepted as minister and the constitution he is paid to represent. There is no place in his religious racism here.

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-08-14 19:31

    i wonder if he's discouraged people from visiting syria or iran.

      jaba.kov - 2012-08-14 22:04

      if its Muslim on Muslim conflict they (Muslims) tend to turn a blind eye... for its in Allah's hands. But if God forbid an infidel is in their way to world domination all hell breaks loose. More Syrians have died in 5 months than Palestinians have in the 60 year conflict with Israel.

  • johnny.potatoes61 - 2012-08-14 19:43

    Religion breeds hatred and intolerance. When will these people wake up and stop this madness already?

  • africanwolf - 2012-08-14 19:51

    God's duty is to punish terrorists Israel's duty is to make sure they meet :)

  • freedom.gumede.77 - 2012-08-14 19:52

    Its a few racist muslims that rise up the ranks of the ANC that force feed their rascist agenda to the majority party. One cannot say which side is right, the Isrealies face bomb attacks on a daily basis. Isreal existed for thousands of years. Its a people that simply want a right to exist. This Minister Ebrahim Ebrahim lacks diplomatic tact, tragic really. He has placed our country's international standing in jeopardy. The USA regards RSA as a pariah state. The ANC is destroying the country with these isolationist views. Ebrahim Ebrahim should resign. Thats what would happen in a decent democratic government.

      mabeeden - 2012-08-14 20:06

      Well said Freedom.

      lwazi.sibiya.10 - 2012-08-14 21:11

      How stupid analysis and your name is \free dom\.Mxm

      mohammedsiddique.kadwa - 2012-08-14 21:40

      Who needs the USA? Neither do we need europe! They are drowning in debt, suffering from losing wars, social problems, you name it. We in SA are looking east, You don't like it, go to Europe or USA! VIVA ANC!

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-14 21:41

      Freedom, you are correct

      jaba.kov - 2012-08-14 22:09

      freedom is 100% right!

      Justice Schwart - 2013-06-12 12:31

      @ohammed Spddique - Everybody needs the USA and Europe, ask the Chinese how important they are to them.

  • tembelanijokazi - 2012-08-14 20:15

    Israel always bombing palestine peole,my attempt 2 bomb iran bcouse they have US support,The iIranian people have 2 b ready or else b the next palestine.Iran should throw everything if they are attacked by Israel.

      africanwolf - 2012-08-14 20:19

      When did you see a Jew exploding himself killing women and children? please do your homework before you comment . Israel is surrounded by enemies and has the right to protect itself , from barbaric fanatics.

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-14 20:47

      Who are the Palestinian people? They do not exist!

      Justice Schwart - 2013-06-12 12:28

      Always in retaliation to Palestinian rockets.

  • marumobongani - 2012-08-14 21:15

    agh who cares after all we got a country to run that also has its own problems why worry about jews and what they have to say and a simple reminder adapt or fly

      africanwolf - 2012-08-14 21:29

      No one cares about your opinion :)

      Justice Schwart - 2013-06-12 12:22

      And who cares what this Muslim minister has to say?

  • Ditantane - 2012-08-14 21:52

    this is written Clinton and Obama all of it.

  • psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-08-14 21:55

    Ebrahim Ebrahim must take his Islamic hatred for Jews and hike off to Saudi Arabia or Iran. He's not welcome to misrepresent me as a South African citizen. He must not come here with that Islamic tendecy...

      Justice Schwart - 2013-06-12 12:20

      You Mr Ebrahim represents only the Indian Muslims in actual fact, You're not representative of all the peoples of South Africa - Go back to India.

  • jaba.kov - 2012-08-14 22:13

    International Relations Deputy Minister of South Africa is hellbent on destroying South Africas' good name in the West for his religious beliefs. Dear Minster - Its South African first Muslim second - don't forget who is paying you and the constitution you have chosen to represent...

      shahied.mohamed.9 - 2012-08-14 22:15

      Is that picture of you ??

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-14 23:51

    When are we gonna learn to see each other as Death sees us? We are all human beings! Death don't care what colour or religion you are. The hatred will stop when we see each other as human beings regardless of colour or religion. What Gods do you people worship that allows this hatred of one another?!?

  • Mandy Casey - 2012-08-15 01:43

    Hey Ebrahim, you forgot to tell Muslims not to go to Mecca

  • gert.swart.393 - 2012-10-09 17:41

    Israel has no intention to solve the Palestinian issue. It will have to be forced on them.

      Justice Schwart - 2013-06-12 12:16

      And why should they?.

  • callie.jordaan - 2013-03-12 20:44

    If a minister can't present the whole SA(including Jews) then he must pack his bag of spiders & go. Take Malema as an example, he pushed himself to become a Zim citizen.

  • Justice Schwart - 2013-06-12 12:15

    This Ebtahim has quite a mouthful about Israel, but conveniently forgets about the unprovoked atrocities of the Palestinians against Israel.

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