Presidency: Land proposals not new

2012-10-24 20:33

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma's recent proposals for land reform were part of the national development plan released in August, the presidency said on Wednesday.

"The presidency welcomes the debate that has ensued over the proposals in the agriculture and land sectors, as it enriches the discussions on this important topic," it said in a statement.

According to the plan, 1 500 000ha were being cultivated under irrigation, and this could be expanded by at least 500 000ha.

This would require that water resources be better used, and could create one million new agricultural jobs by 2030.

The plan also called for under-used land in communal areas and existing land reform projects to be brought into commercial production and that new farmers be supported.

The plan proposed a "district-based" approach to land reform and financing.

"It proposes that each district should establish a district land reform committee where all stakeholders are involved," the presidency said.

The committee would identify 20% of commercial farm land in the district and look for ways to transfer it to black farmers.

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 20:42

    I see you don't repeat the 50% can't refuse discount.

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 20:59

      And the begging from fellow farmers to make up that 50% state- theft.

      lownabester - 2012-10-24 21:05

      The Govenment is forcing people to try and be farmers, after a few months everything comes to an tragic end, with the land dormant and nothing done. Sorry Mr, showerhead it will never work.

      Oraniaboer - 2012-10-24 21:12

      Farming is not as eay as they think it is. It takes a lot of guts and hard work and I dont see alot of people in South-Africa that will be able to stomach such hard work. It takes a certain type of person to farm, one with innerstrength and mental stability. Farming is not for the wannabee it is for people like the Boer. Now they the Boere CAN FARM THATS FORSHORE.

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-10-24 21:25

      We must at least give him credit for the idea to bring communal land areas into the equation...for me it is the first positive thing that the ANC is proposing around the land reform debate. The rest is again BS as usual.

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-10-24 22:37

      Hey Showerhead, next time please say to your audience that you are proposing a debate and not a solution as your retort definitely states that you want a debate. However, your audience of the other evening wanted you to give that plan and you gave it (that is what unprincipled populists like you do). If it does not work (I don't think it will get past the concourt to start off with), you will blame the people on the right side of the law in front of the same crowd and then wonder why there is an increase in hatred and crime.

  • bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-10-24 20:43

    Here we go with some mor brain farts !!

  • godfrey.welman - 2012-10-24 20:44

    How about the president welcomes a debate with DA leader.

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 21:03

      Which were "lets steal the land like Zimbabwe", I presume. Were you there Kolobe? Do you want my land? I bought it with my partners in 1992. It is still fresh and new.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-24 21:11

      TROLL ALERT --- tumisang.kolobe

      werner.m.strydom - 2012-10-24 21:13

      Funny you should mention that, godfrey. I've watched the US debates between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama - it's fascinating and refreshing. If any of our so-called leaders had to place themselves in a situation where they had to own up to their mistakes and think on their feet, well...let's just say Comedy Central would be an appropriate channel for broadcasting.

      colin.dovey - 2012-10-24 21:40

      Good that most of us now now about the Troll - just ignore it

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-10-24 22:30

      Kolobe, what resolution? And since when is an ANC resolution law? I guess you need to get used to this thing called the constitution.

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-24 20:48

    Oh? And just yesterday it was introduced as a radical new land reform plan...

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-24 20:50

    Oh? And just yesterday it was introduced as a radical new land reform plan...

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-24 21:03

      It's only radical when the PRESIDENT proudly announces it. Once everyone's had time to stop laughing and respond, then the PRESIDENCY kicks in.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-10-24 21:00

    Another story from the presidency. We need someone who will take action.

  • shane.asselbergs - 2012-10-24 21:02

    Never having been on a farm I cannot say for certain, but it seems to me that faring is a bit more involved than just through some seeds in the ground or put some cattle in the field to graze. Unless they have skilled and knowledgeable farmers coming into the industry then this will all be a futile attempt which will take decades to repair. We can't afford to replace commercial farmers with subsistence farmers to satisfy some romantic notion of 'living on your ancestral land'. We need to move forward economically and that takes smart vision; the world is passing us by.

      werner.m.strydom - 2012-10-24 21:22

      It's not about the actual use of the farm, or being productive, or moving the economy forward. It's about the I-want because economic freedom in our lifetime yadda yadda. It's about the you-have-and-I-dont-and-that-is-unfair. How many leaders in government are in positions of opportunity and power, to make a real difference, to reach out to the poor, to act in the collective effort of a nation? And how many of them are splurging money on jets and Range Rovers and private homesteads instead? It's never about being productive. It's absolutely about self-enrichment.

  • Jonathan Lee Van Zyl - 2012-10-24 21:10

    I tell you what, let us give the land to someone that has got no idea about farming and then let him provide food for all the SA citizens. Now that is the best idea I've heard in a long time. What a bunch of bloody bafoons...

  • dali.mpofu.9 - 2012-10-24 21:22


  • nhlanhla.mahlangu.7393 - 2012-10-24 21:26

    aag agriculture its a tin of the past! its no longer enticing s at it used 2 b, lets 4get abt it JZ n focus more attractive staff! its identified s 'scarce skill' bcoz of the living conditions we're experiencing

      george.slade.161 - 2012-10-24 21:43

      No its the lack of Brain you are displaying !

  • jannie.henning.5 - 2012-10-24 21:38

    "According to the plan, 1 500 000ha were being cultivated under irrigation, and this could be expanded by at least 500 000ha".........but showerhead, it seems that you guys will allowing fracking in the Karoo, which WILL poison the underground water reserves. Water is scarce in SA, so are you going to be ok with this POISONED water to be used for you irrigation master plan?

  • dee.bone.39 - 2012-10-24 21:47

    guess who's gonna benefit from the land appropriation?

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 21:54

      Um lets see. The Tooth-Fairy?

  • nhlanhla.mahlangu.7393 - 2012-10-24 21:51

    u should've went 4 microbiology or plant pathology instead of ur hr management, u would've not made that comment!

  • John - 2012-10-24 21:53

    Farming is a science!! Give the land to your black scientists. How many black farmers are succeeding?

  • nhlanhla.mahlangu.7393 - 2012-10-24 21:54

    u should've went 4 microbiology or plant/animal pathology instead of ur hr management, u would've not made that stupundius comment!

  • bcluley - 2012-10-24 21:58

    They get the land to then sell it to buy flashy mercs and chivas ,cause we want to be like e-blue light brigade.

  • bcluley - 2012-10-24 21:58

    They get the land to then sell it to buy flashy mercs and chivas ,cause we want to be like e-blue light brigade.

  • charles.venter.12 - 2012-10-24 22:01

    Keep on Dreaming

  • carl.debeer.33 - 2012-10-24 22:10

    Saw farms near Malelane , Marloth Park and Nelspruit that were forced to give in to these projects.Well guess what? In three years orange groves have tuned into overgrown weed and bear no fruit at all.No irrigation exists.The one farm house has been gutted and the game on that farm has all been poached.All vehicles, machinery and equipment on these farms do not exist or have been stolen....glorified squatter camps is what they have turned into, it's shocking!

  • Bongeka - 2012-10-24 22:17

    Please educate the nation Mr President like I proposed on the comment I made yesterday on this land distribution issue. Once people have quality education they can always choose the career that suits them better. Stop forcing them to be farmers because it might not be their calling. What happened in the past can and needs to be rectified, but this is not the right way. Plan for something you would like to see in 20 years time in this country. If you want to see educated South Africans who are not government dependants then start now otherwise you'll end up blaming presidents before you. Get education system right,make funds available for the have nots and make sure it is compulsory to everyone with no formal education to the people with standard ten/grade twelve only. Your main aim is to get almost everyone graduated with something on hand that can make him/her compete in the world. PLEASE MR PRESIDENT, YOU'LL NEVER GO WRONG.

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 22:21

      Bonqela, I am humbled by your grasp of this situation. Thank you.

      Bongeka - 2012-10-24 23:45

      Thank you Rustic----Do you know why I keep nagging about this? It's because I want other South Africans to join me because I really do want to see that happening. Even if it doesn't happen during my life time but at least if I'm part of the foundation then I'll rest in peace in my grave knowing that the country is in good hands because I paved the way for the future generations.

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-25 00:04

      All I can say is keep up the good work in that regard(I must sound like a headmaster - not my intention!). See you down the line, I am sure.

  • prieurp34 - 2012-10-24 22:25

    So its now al about \Establishments\ and not re-taking land previously disowned from blacks! So Government can now pick and choose which farms they want? Take those that are already \Established\? Those that are productive! You people make me sick! Government owns more land than all whites have ever owned, why not give that land to them? Because those farms of which they now will pick and choose from, will be useless within a year and then who will provide the food for the country??? CHINA?????

  • Paul - 2012-10-24 22:31

    No man,enough with proposals mr zuma,18 yrs after democracy and u are still proposing,is about time you implement and act.ppl can't wait for eva,south africa belong to all who live in it and is about time we share this land of our forefathers,period!

  • anthony.richardson.961 - 2012-10-24 22:49

    How is this for a novel proposal? \Aspirant black farmers\ approach the land bank for a loan and put in some of their own capital and BUY A FARM if they really want one? Just like any other \aspirant farmer\ would do, irrespective of race. It's known as risk and reward

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