Lay charges against ANCYL, says Cosatu

2012-08-30 22:32

Johannesburg - Charges should be laid against the ANC Youth League after pupils participated in a march in Polokwane, Cosatu said on Thursday.

"We condemn the disruption of learning at schools... and call upon the department of basic education, and the school governing bodies of these schools to lay criminal charges where possible," said provincial Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) spokesperson Dan Sebabi.

ANCYL protesters marched to Limpopo Premier Cassel Mathale's offices in Polokwane on Thursday to demand the dismissal of Education MEC Dickson Masemola and the delivery of textbooks across the province.

The league was also protesting against the national government's placing five Limpopo departments, including education, under administration.

Among the protesters were pupils from the Moruleng and Mohlakaneng secondary schools, who were bussed to SABC park, where the march started. Their schools had not given them permission to join the march.

They carried placards which read: "We demand jobs", and "Administration must release our province".

The Limpopo provincial government said while it welcomed the ANCYL's memorandum of demands, it advised march organisers "to refrain from disruptive activities".

"Anyone who disrupts schooling in Limpopo will be dealt with according to the law," spokesman Tebatso Mabitsela said.

The education department said it was disappointing that ANCYL members were disrupting schooling.

"We want to urge the principals, school governing bodies and parents to urgently report any disruptions to the law enforcement agency, and also appeal to learners to refrain from participating in any event that is not curriculum orientated," spokesperson Pat Kgomo said.

  • ianmichaelcalder - 2012-08-30 22:53

    Highly unlikely, it seems the ANC YL can do whatever the bloody hell they want, and say whatever they want, and even although Julius has been ousted, senior ANC leadership can't reign in their barking dog.

      claudia.meads - 2012-08-31 00:24

      Not sure what is a more appropriate description - BANANA REPUBLIC or LAW OF THE JUNGLE..? If you were offered the chance TODAY, to vote 'yes' or 'no' in the "1992 Referendum", what would you have vote..?

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-08-31 02:55

      It's because they are weak

      john.barbarian.9 - 2012-08-31 05:13

      @Leonard B Just park there an Ice cream truck with sign "free"....also eastern tactic...hahaha In African version you will have entire crowd there...Maybe SAB Truck on the other side of the street.

      Mark - 2012-08-31 07:41

      @Claudia_Meads - Given the choice, again, to pack your bags for Perth would you do it? Seems like you missed your golden opportunity.

  • Khazamula Xipezeze Rihlampfu - 2012-08-30 23:05

    at least the ANCYL has disrupted schooling for a day compare to six month without textbooks, the damage has already been done. i think Cosatu must lay charges to Angie

      Chaapo - 2012-08-31 04:15

      Still does not justify them leaving school to demand jobs. Can you not see how this has been hijacked? This should have been a demand for books and a quality education not about jobs. That is putting the cart before the horse; but children are gullible and easily exploited and many do not see the bigger picture unless the parents are there to direct. Now with these toyi-toying parents, what alternative model do they have when they are caught between this and Malema and ANCYL's directionless slash and burn approach?

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-31 05:08

      why did they not march for school books

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-31 07:27

      because they are not interested in learning, they are behaving like their mentors the ANCYL, demand, burn break, why learn if you believe you can demand everything, its the same old story give someone a fish & feed them for a day, teach them how to fish & feed them for a lifetime, seems the black youth only want to eat for a day, they couldnt give a F**ck about tomorrow, until tomorrow arrives, then what .... beg, which is what ZImbabwe is doing, black people need to wake up before its too late.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-31 07:44

      @anthonycharles.williams - according to radio i/views many of the students thought they were marching for free marks, free books and an end to being punished for being late for school.

      chaapo.sithole - 2012-08-31 10:55

      @nigel.vanysendyk At least many Zimbabweans beg using their academic and professional qualifications (not that it is good what happens in the country) but you have to conceed that they are educated beggars many of who bring value to many workplaces. What are these beggars in Limpopo going to bring without an education?

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-08-30 23:26

    Charges should also be laid against Casatu for not supporting the workers at Aurora, and other mines that are being pilfered, let us now begin to draw attention to the Northern Cape diamond mines and lets begin to expose Casatu's lack of representation for workers, especially when the fat cat leaders have started using workers contributions to buy shares in companies that employ their members. They should keep quite as the storm is marching against Casatu leaders who have deceived workers for long enough.

      godfrey.welman - 2012-08-30 23:37

      @Glen....Agree with you. Lets see how COSATU will react when the same advice they are offering now, is used against them when teachers "down tools" over wage demands.

  • daleinn - 2012-08-30 23:39

    we are not living in apartheid for schooling to be disrupted. Its once again lack of leadership in this country to ensure children are in school and not being used as pawns in political battles. Its low line tactics like this that should be dealt with in the strongets light. Also the inability for government to resolve the text book crisis is clarity that heads should roll, if not at mangaung. We need a new political party , a new breed of leadership that can lead by values and discipline, and eliminate lawlessness and corruption, create infrastructure and development, that has been purely lacking because of corruption.

      jerry.medina.756 - 2012-08-31 01:04

      Just boot this dicktatoral administration out. High time South Africans vote for South Africa not this ANC and their so called opposition with their divisive policies.

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-08-31 02:37

    Yet Cosatu's second-biggest union -- Sadtu -- routinely disrupts the pupils' studies with yearly strikes, stop-works and go-slows? And Cosatu is fully supportive...

      Gerda Malherbe - 2012-08-31 05:23

      Yes, Blip, only cosatu has the right to call a strike in schools. I remind you of a month long strike by sadtu a few years back, disrupting half year exams. Hipocrates, the lot of them. Its all about the money and greed. Idiots

  • juannepierre - 2012-08-31 03:11

    Their lack of education doesn't effect me, it effects them. Textbooks are aids in studying but a classroom with a teacher needs only one book to teach a class, so I doubt anyone had to twist these kids arms to boycott school and carry placards reading we want jobs. But hey, how can south Africa have wonderful five star resorts without the help of the stupid and poor? Hospitality industry thrives on these people. Thanks Limpopo for raising the next generation of Sun City cleaners.

      Steven Trollip - 2012-08-31 03:52

      hahaha good one

      nxumaloj - 2012-08-31 05:17

      We cannot allow this thinking, certain groups have resources to support kids, teachers provide guidance, just imagine learning on chapter 1 in February and memorise that for exam in November without any reading materials..madness

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-31 08:45

      Their lack of education is a massive threat to all of us. Uneducated demanding rabble are easy to manipulate for populist causes.

      chaapo.sithole - 2012-08-31 11:10

      It is ideal to have books and inexcusable to have a systems failure like this disaster. However, pupils CAN learn if a teacher has one book (does anyone remember note-taking or is it a dead sckill?). As long as there is a teacher who is passionate for the sudents, and students willing to learn, they can still learn. All these other things are aids to enhance the learning process. Many of us learnt by taking notes from the board or from dictation even when there were boook shortages. It did not kill us; and in fact, some of the notes were better than reading a textbook because they were a combination of the best information from a number of textbooks the teachers would have consulted as they compiled the notes and that helped when preparing for exams. We all want the optimum learning situation for students. However using these problems as an in-built excuse for anticipated failure, just does not wash with me. Ultimately, it will not matter who is to blame for this. What will matter is that the students will have failed and for some then that will be a dead end. So like we did in similar circumstances at a different time, it should be a matter of thinking that, when the system gives you the proverbial lemon, make lemonade.Instead of a "we will show them" by leaving school and going to demonstrate, lets have a "we will show them" by staying in school and use creative ways of ensuring that learning continues uninterrupted. That should be the goal for teachers and student.

  • sisa.mtwana - 2012-08-31 03:30

    This is very Hippocratic of our leaders in government and labour union to call for charges to be laid against the ANCYL.Not long ago in our dark past they were the one how used us as school children to fight the Apartheid regime and some of these leaders were students themselves. Student Uprising from 1976 until 1986 this is a fact and our leaders know it. The youth of this country played one of the biggest role in liberating this country, when our leaders were in jail, exile or killed. The youth kept the fires burning and when Thabo Mbeki made the call in exile to make this country ungovernable the youth heard the call. Today the people we elected into government are corrupt and not delivering even school services, They are busy stealing and selling the country to the new colonial master the big corporations to enrich themselves. The youth/students in this country are not going to look away while their future is being eaten by greedy pigs. They should ask the students to go back to school and provide all the services the students need. The leaders should not try to put blame on the ANCYL who are students the majority of them. In all said the leadership in this country should know better not to mess up the future of this country, which is the youth/students/children of our country. My statement is not of support of the ANCYL but I support all the youth of our country as I said they are the future.

      vincent.v.sambo - 2012-08-31 08:43

      It's only when the tide goes out that we see who has no clothes. For many decades COSATU has been fooling the masses. Now COSATU will exposed further, they do not have a thing to say other than critisizing the YL for doing what is right for the province.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-31 08:49

      An uneducated ill disciplined youth will not be our future, they will be our downfall. The ANCYL does not teach the youth good values, pride, work ethics - they only play with populist idealistic nonsense which they know will easily excite young people. They have no interest in the youth besides using them as pawns for political ambitions.

  • piet.boerie - 2012-08-31 05:22

    Same tatics as the 1980's, get kids to bycott education. Its criminal. We teach kids not to learn and when they cant get work they steal. Our leaders perpetuate colonialsim and its extension of aparthied. I think the ANC want uneducated people to control to do their dirty work of public disorder so the leaders can milk the system. What a shame such a mighty freedom organisation has become the new greedy opressor and the protector of the super rich. Same system, different government, same beneficaries.

  • rlmbennett - 2012-08-31 05:36

    @ Claudia Meads - I am so sorry that it has come this.....where white people who genuinely wanted a new SA, with justice for all, now have to question their own wisdom in voting "yes" in that famous/infamous referendum all those years ago. I understand.

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-08-31 05:38

    But Cusato won't do it themselves, because they are too (politicly) lazy AND anyway, why bite the hand that feeds you.

      Yosi Sesoana - 2012-08-31 08:37

      when they (cosatu)disrupt education is ok

  • andile.vabasa - 2012-08-31 06:29

    For once it sounds like an actual reason to protest. Government is useless at everything!

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-31 07:18

    Education is key, but it seems the majority of South Africans, i.e. Blacks just dont give a damn, & are determined to destroy their own futures, everything that is currently happening in SA will have a seriously negative impact on their futures, from disgraceful education, pathetic leadership, political infighting & intolerance, rampant crime & corruption to popularist opportunists that seek to destroy everything for their own political gain, we can only watch while black people destory the future for themselves & us, & at this rate they will destroy it.

      Fikile Magadla - 2012-08-31 07:46

      Too bad Nigel because unfortunately u live with these black people u work with them.your kids go to Private schools with them.Why dont u kill them if u hate them so badly!too bad brother too bad

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-31 08:53

      I don't think nige hates you, I think he's just confused and frustrated as to why, when you get a country, you don't try to look after it. Why? Black people treat the country like a dustbin - that shows they don't care for it. Its weird, its yours now, why not treat it as such?

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-31 08:13

    For once I agree with you, but we dont see the ANC come out and utter one word about these hooligans. They are letting them and Julius Malema who believes he is back in his place with even more power threatening everybody. Are the ANC a bunch of cowards that they wont knock him and their kindergarden down to size. Its been made quite clear the black people dont want an education, they are just waiting for the youth wage subsidy then they can claim money every month and follow the messiah all day on his protests.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-31 08:57

      The ANC is the most confused and directionless organisation in the world. They have this so called "alliance", but each member has a completely different direction. The ANC tries to please all sides, and in so doing has dug itself such a deep hole that it is clueless as to how to get out of it. It currently has no leaders that seem capable of getting it out of this mess. Weakness like this I have seldom witnessed in my 48 years of life. I can't believe a strong and moral leader can't be found, out of so many people. Its scary, it does not bode well for the future.

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-31 08:40

    "We demand jobs." Quite amazing the things young people are being taught by everyone linked to this farce of a government. It is absolutely impossible to have any respect whatsoever for any of these people. Things are in a rapid state of decay in this country, the people have lost all pride due to poor leadership. Look at the way the majority treat the country - like its just a dustbin to them.

  • khutso.b - 2012-08-31 08:49

    School kids demand jobs? it doesn't make sense...

  • psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-08-31 09:07

    Gosh, what a bunch of imbeciles! What exactly will the prosector charge the ANCYL with? Inviting kids to a march? LOL! Were these children kidnapped or forced to attend? Cosatu must be consistent, if they really believe schooling is crucial, then Sadtu teachers should be prohibited from striking. Sadtu does a lot more damage to schooling than this ANCYL march could ever do. Where was Cosatu's cry for criminal charges to be laid when teachers (no doubt affiliated with Sadtu) encouraged children to riot and burn school desks?? Why is Cosatu quiet regarding the kids who have been prevented from attending school for 3 months due to protests? Bunch of imbeciles, the whole lot of them.

  • nqobileshammy.kekana - 2012-08-31 10:32

    these kids should be demanding school books not jobs. if i were them i would be focussing on catching up with my studies than wasting time on stupid protests that will not even benefit me.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-31 14:36

    Whoever instigated this violence should be charged and put in prison. In future it should be made clear that whoever, calls on workers etc to protest should be held accountable for any violence that erupts or vandalism. Hence they will think twice before inciting people. Peaceful marches are the order of the day.

  • mthetheleli.ntshobololo.1 - 2012-09-01 01:20

    i-cosatu ikhetha iimpukani emasini, we haven't heard them calling for the dep. of education to be charged for not delivering books in Limpopo.

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